[youtube] https://youtu.be/JKoewhewOE8
Released in 2001
Love is Pain album
QuoteGetting discovered by Murder Inc. Records founder Irv Gotti through his former babysitter, Ashanti had her big break when she was featured on Ja Rule's 2001 single "Always on Time," which went all the way to No. 1. "To be honest with you, I think that song was supposed to be for Brandy, and she ended up not doing it," she said. "And Ashanti came in and alley-ooped!"
Ashanti on her Murder Inc. days: 'We were producing crack in hit records': https://nypost.com/2022/04/07/ashanti-got-her-big-break-after-brandy-passed-on-always-on-time/
I read Full Moon's original release date was November 20, 2001. She probably didn't have time to promote.
I found a different interview from some time ago
Quote
Always On Time is one of our biggest records. That was really supposed to be for Brandy. She turned it down and I gladly took it," she said. "At that time, I was super early in the game. I didn't know what the politics were, but I was in the studio and they were like, "Yo. Let's have 'Shanti do it." And that was history in the making."
Funny that Ja Rule was mentioned in a text about the making of FM. I always wonder about Neptunes tracks, Bran needs to do some spring cleaning in that music vault.
QuoteIn addition, Brandy also recorded with Babyface, and production duos Soulshock & Karlin and The Neptunes, but none of their songs made the album's final tracklisting.
Rapper Ja Rule was reportedly also involved into the project.
This has been revealed plenty of times
I just found out a few weeks ago in that FM anniversary thread. Wish Brandy was featured on more singles but I guess it worked out better for her as a well-respected artist..
oh word? i could hear bran on it, tbh
ggfvccc
fuck these gors
i aink know
:trannyjblige:
Didn't know this either. Her 2001 tone woulda been perfect on this. She prob was still tryna maintain that good girl image.
GOD WORKS IN MYSTERIOUS WAYS! LOOK AT THAT.
:roflmao:
Quote from: Say-Something-ReVon on April 07, 2022, 02:12:27 PM
GOD WORKS IN MYSTERIOUS WAYS! LOOK AT THAT.
:roflmao:
Brandy said no and Ashanti had a career :welllol:
Quote from: FRANCE on April 07, 2022, 01:18:01 PM
Didn't know this either. Her 2001 tone woulda been perfect on this. She prob was still tryna maintain that good girl image.
or she just turned it down like a lot of Artists do lol
I always wonder why they ain't give this to Lil Mo
I think Lil Mo was mad at them at this time because she didn't get paid for Put It On Me or I Cry, I believe
Quote from: annie on April 07, 2022, 08:23:20 AM
[youtube] https://youtu.be/JKoewhewOE8
Released in 2001
Love is Pain album
QuoteGetting discovered by Murder Inc. Records founder Irv Gotti through his former babysitter, Ashanti had her big break when she was featured on Ja Rule's 2001 single "Always on Time," which went all the way to No. 1. "To be honest with you, I think that song was supposed to be for Brandy, and she ended up not doing it," she said. "And Ashanti came in and alley-ooped!"
Ashanti on her Murder Inc. days: 'We were producing crack in hit records': https://nypost.com/2022/04/07/ashanti-got-her-big-break-after-brandy-passed-on-always-on-time/
I read Full Moon's original release date was November 20, 2001. She probably didn't have time to promote.
that would have been epic! and it was supposed to be a different album cover, a lot was happening in the industry and with B around this time in 2001, makes sense for the release to have been early 2002
Moesha had just ended, I wonder if it was released in 2001 would promo and sales be different?
Quote from: FRANCE on April 07, 2022, 01:18:01 PM
Didn't know this either. Her 2001 tone woulda been perfect on this. She prob was still tryna maintain that good girl image.
Yes!
Always On Time (Lyrics)And I love to see that ass in boots and shades
Sprawled out on the bed while I'm yankin your braids and f-ing you all wildJa definitely had brandy in mind,
I'm sure brandy was 3 months pregnant by November 2001 but ultimately YES!
Quote from: 4everSLAYanafan on April 07, 2022, 05:52:18 PM
Quote from: annie on April 07, 2022, 08:23:20 AM
[youtube] https://youtu.be/JKoewhewOE8
Released in 2001
Love is Pain album
QuoteGetting discovered by Murder Inc. Records founder Irv Gotti through his former babysitter, Ashanti had her big break when she was featured on Ja Rule's 2001 single "Always on Time," which went all the way to No. 1. "To be honest with you, I think that song was supposed to be for Brandy, and she ended up not doing it," she said. "And Ashanti came in and alley-ooped!"
Ashanti on her Murder Inc. days: 'We were producing crack in hit records': https://nypost.com/2022/04/07/ashanti-got-her-big-break-after-brandy-passed-on-always-on-time/
I read Full Moon's original release date was November 20, 2001. She probably didn't have time to promote.
that would have been epic! and it was supposed to be a different album cover, a lot was happening in the industry and with B around this time in 2001, makes sense for the release to have been early 2002
Moesha had just ended, I wonder if it was released in 2001 would promo and sales be different?
Oh I didn't know. I assume they did the Mannion shoot first..
Oh wait I remember now
found it in my tumblr archive :)
https://brandynorwood.tumblr.com/tagged/full%20moon
Art direction by http://www.thomasbricker.com (https://href.li/?http://www.thomasbricker.com)
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/2cd9b68a6bc10b3c8cb7714e3e6358b3/tumblr_n0h8tzqndx1qilxguo1_640.jpg)
(https://www.vibe.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/GettyImages-755586.jpg)
(https://www.vibe.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/GettyImages-2286342.jpg)
I also spotted the cover in an artwork about 9/11, it was for sale for 20k
:damselindistress:
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/08eebaad0aa043ec0fc3e2a2a9f968bf/tumblr_nubxagM71v1qilxguo1_640.jpg)
Commemorating 9/11. Ten street views, New York. 2001-02
© Hans Haacke / Artists Rights Society (ARS), New York.
https://www.curatormagazine.com/meaghanritchey/the-art-of-september-11/
I think her sells would've been great dropping in November. Sells are usually great for top girls around the holiday season. 'Always on time' was fairly new but was gaining fast. Her sells would be stable going into the new year, with some cute live performances. Brandy missed out big time IMHO. She needed this hit and started to cater more to the hip hop crowd at this time. This was a Sonya decision im sure.
Quote from: DemetriusRocka 🤴🏾 on April 07, 2022, 06:54:49 PM
I think her sells would've been great dropping in November. Sells are usually great for top girls around the holiday season. 'Always on time' was fairly new but was gaining fast. Her sells would be stable going into the new year, with some cute live performances. Brandy missed out big time IMHO. She needed this hit and started to cater more to the hip hop crowd at this time. This was a Sonya decision im sure.
Yes, I feel this way tbh, it would have later made Afrodisiac make mores sense to some people.
we could have gotten a double platinum status from "full moon" but i'm still great full for its impact.
Quote from: annie on April 07, 2022, 06:52:49 PM
(https://www.vibe.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/GettyImages-755586.jpg)
(https://www.vibe.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/GettyImages-2286342.jpg)
I also spotted the cover in an artwork about 9/11, it was for sale for 20k
:damselindistress:
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/08eebaad0aa043ec0fc3e2a2a9f968bf/tumblr_nubxagM71v1qilxguo1_640.jpg)
Commemorating 9/11. Ten street views, New York. 2001-02
© Hans Haacke / Artists Rights Society (ARS), New York.
https://www.curatormagazine.com/meaghanritchey/the-art-of-september-11/
Wow!! all of this is epic Annie! promo during mid 2001 I never knew this! I feel like the UK got better "Full Moon" promo because I don't remember seeing not one billboard in LA for 'Full Moon" but for Never Say Never they were everywhere!
Quote from: annie on April 07, 2022, 06:43:25 PM
Oh wait I remember now
found it in my tumblr archive :)
https://brandynorwood.tumblr.com/tagged/full%20moon
Art direction by http://www.thomasbricker.com (https://href.li/?http://www.thomasbricker.com)
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/2cd9b68a6bc10b3c8cb7714e3e6358b3/tumblr_n0h8tzqndx1qilxguo1_640.jpg)
Yes! I'm glad you posted this again I've been looking forever! lol I miss your tumblr\ :'(
the blue album cover would have been epic af mid 2001
also I feel like Aaliyah's passing would have over shadowed anything Brandy and Monica released at the time mid and end of 2001.
Quote from: annie on April 07, 2022, 08:35:34 AM
I found a different interview from some time ago
Quote
Always On Time is one of our biggest records. That was really supposed to be for Brandy. She turned it down and I gladly took it," she said. "At that time, I was super early in the game. I didn't know what the politics were, but I was in the studio and they were like, "Yo. Let's have 'Shanti do it." And that was history in the making."
Funny that Ja Rule was mentioned in a text about the making of FM. I always wonder about Neptunes tracks, Bran needs to do some spring cleaning in that music vault.
QuoteIn addition, Brandy also recorded with Babyface, and production duos Soulshock & Karlin and The Neptunes, but none of their songs made the album's final tracklisting.
Rapper Ja Rule was reportedly also involved into the project.
What's crazy about this is that during the sessions with Soulshock and Karlin she recorded the songs Hurts the Most and It Breaks My Heart which eventually went to Monica. The producers had some not so nice things to say about Bran and they snatched the songs from her . I wonder what happened .... :plzstop: :dead:
Quote from: annie on April 07, 2022, 06:36:08 PM
Quote from: 4everSLAYanafan on April 07, 2022, 05:52:18 PM
Quote from: annie on April 07, 2022, 08:23:20 AM
[youtube] https://youtu.be/JKoewhewOE8
Released in 2001
Love is Pain album
QuoteGetting discovered by Murder Inc. Records founder Irv Gotti through his former babysitter, Ashanti had her big break when she was featured on Ja Rule's 2001 single "Always on Time," which went all the way to No. 1. "To be honest with you, I think that song was supposed to be for Brandy, and she ended up not doing it," she said. "And Ashanti came in and alley-ooped!"
Ashanti on her Murder Inc. days: 'We were producing crack in hit records': https://nypost.com/2022/04/07/ashanti-got-her-big-break-after-brandy-passed-on-always-on-time/
I read Full Moon's original release date was November 20, 2001. She probably didn't have time to promote.
that would have been epic! and it was supposed to be a different album cover, a lot was happening in the industry and with B around this time in 2001, makes sense for the release to have been early 2002
Moesha had just ended, I wonder if it was released in 2001 would promo and sales be different?
Oh I didn't know. I assume they did the Mannion shoot first..
did Mannion shoot the main FM photos?
Quote from: KingDavid on April 07, 2022, 11:36:48 PM
Quote from: annie on April 07, 2022, 08:35:34 AM
I found a different interview from some time ago
Quote
Always On Time is one of our biggest records. That was really supposed to be for Brandy. She turned it down and I gladly took it," she said. "At that time, I was super early in the game. I didn't know what the politics were, but I was in the studio and they were like, "Yo. Let's have 'Shanti do it." And that was history in the making."
Funny that Ja Rule was mentioned in a text about the making of FM. I always wonder about Neptunes tracks, Bran needs to do some spring cleaning in that music vault.
QuoteIn addition, Brandy also recorded with Babyface, and production duos Soulshock & Karlin and The Neptunes, but none of their songs made the album's final tracklisting.
Rapper Ja Rule was reportedly also involved into the project.
What's crazy about this is that during the sessions with Soulshock and Karlin she recorded the songs Hurts the Most and It Breaks My Heart which eventually went to Monica. The producers had some not so nice things to say about Bran and they snatched the songs from her . I wonder what happened .... :plzstop: :dead:
them giving it to mo and talking shit sounds petty.
Quote from: 4everSLAYanafan on April 08, 2022, 12:17:16 AM
Quote from: KingDavid on April 07, 2022, 11:36:48 PM
Quote from: annie on April 07, 2022, 08:35:34 AM
I found a different interview from some time ago
Quote
Always On Time is one of our biggest records. That was really supposed to be for Brandy. She turned it down and I gladly took it," she said. "At that time, I was super early in the game. I didn't know what the politics were, but I was in the studio and they were like, "Yo. Let's have 'Shanti do it." And that was history in the making."
Funny that Ja Rule was mentioned in a text about the making of FM. I always wonder about Neptunes tracks, Bran needs to do some spring cleaning in that music vault.
QuoteIn addition, Brandy also recorded with Babyface, and production duos Soulshock & Karlin and The Neptunes, but none of their songs made the album's final tracklisting.
Rapper Ja Rule was reportedly also involved into the project.
What's crazy about this is that during the sessions with Soulshock and Karlin she recorded the songs Hurts the Most and It Breaks My Heart which eventually went to Monica. The producers had some not so nice things to say about Bran and they snatched the songs from her . I wonder what happened .... :plzstop: :dead:
them giving it to mo and talking shit sounds petty.
For the life of me I just can't understand what she could have done to some white European men that was so bad that they won't give a real reason but to say she wasn't so nice . It' is baffling to say the least . :shannonsmissing:
Quote from: 4everSLAYanafan on April 07, 2022, 10:55:29 PM
Quote from: annie on April 07, 2022, 06:43:25 PM
Oh wait I remember now
found it in my tumblr archive :)
https://brandynorwood.tumblr.com/tagged/full%20moon
Art direction by http://www.thomasbricker.com (https://href.li/?http://www.thomasbricker.com)
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/2cd9b68a6bc10b3c8cb7714e3e6358b3/tumblr_n0h8tzqndx1qilxguo1_640.jpg)
Yes! I'm glad you posted this again I've been looking forever! lol I miss your tumblr\ :'(
the blue album cover would have been epic af mid 2001
also I feel like Aaliyah's passing would have over shadowed anything Brandy and Monica released at the time mid and end of 2001.
That cover is kinda dope. It just looks cool as hell.
Quote from: DemetriusRocka 🤴🏾 on April 08, 2022, 01:03:08 AM
Quote from: 4everSLAYanafan on April 07, 2022, 10:55:29 PM
Quote from: annie on April 07, 2022, 06:43:25 PM
Oh wait I remember now
found it in my tumblr archive :)
https://brandynorwood.tumblr.com/tagged/full%20moon
Art direction by http://www.thomasbricker.com (https://href.li/?http://www.thomasbricker.com)
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/2cd9b68a6bc10b3c8cb7714e3e6358b3/tumblr_n0h8tzqndx1qilxguo1_640.jpg)
Yes! I'm glad you posted this again I've been looking forever! lol I miss your tumblr\ :'(
the blue album cover would have been epic af mid 2001
also I feel like Aaliyah's passing would have over shadowed anything Brandy and Monica released at the time mid and end of 2001.
That cover is kinda dope. It just looks cool as hell.
I kind of wish it was the actual cover
Marc Baptiste did the cover photo and white background studio photos (on the cd). He worked with Brandy before; he also shot some single art for NSN (Almost doesn't count, Everything I do).
Thomas Bricker previously did the graphic design for NSN.
I think Jonathan Mannion did the rest of the photos, in the studio with different backgrounds and on location. I still want to see more of that blue/purple shoot by the way.
(https://i2.wp.com/thebrandyblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/2_1120387_110.jpg)
I think it's funny how this ended up in a Dutch mag..I saved a clipping and I scanned it. We had to wait for a digital version forever
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-XVgi0OLWa4w/TxXJrka69TI/AAAAAAAAB3M/Dcv5CmFGOV0/s1600/Brandy%252Bbrannupicture1.png)
(https://41.media.tumblr.com/8569b0d0cc14bfd3098fbe6629d2a3fe/tumblr_nqigg2Yf2i1r4rumvo1_1280.jpg)
Quote from: 4everSLAYanafan on April 08, 2022, 02:25:58 AM
Quote from: DemetriusRocka 🤴🏾 on April 08, 2022, 01:03:08 AM
Quote from: 4everSLAYanafan on April 07, 2022, 10:55:29 PM
Quote from: annie on April 07, 2022, 06:43:25 PM
Oh wait I remember now
found it in my tumblr archive :)
https://brandynorwood.tumblr.com/tagged/full%20moon
Art direction by http://www.thomasbricker.com (https://href.li/?http://www.thomasbricker.com)
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/2cd9b68a6bc10b3c8cb7714e3e6358b3/tumblr_n0h8tzqndx1qilxguo1_640.jpg)
Yes! I'm glad you posted this again I've been looking forever! lol I miss your tumblr\ :'(
the blue album cover would have been epic af mid 2001
also I feel like Aaliyah's passing would have over shadowed anything Brandy and Monica released at the time mid and end of 2001.
That cover is kinda dope. It just looks cool as hell.
I kind of wish it was the actual cover
There are so many amazing pics from that era..if only they released a special or deluxe edition
(https://i0.wp.com/thebrandyblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/brocka1.jpg)