I finished reading L.A. Reid's book, and wanted to share some interesting parts from it.
- Pebbles could be extremely jealous and suspicious. L.A. would hang out with certain female artists that he wanted to sign, and Pebbles would show up and explode. She did it with Paula Abdul one night and frightened her, causing him to lose Paula as an artist. She tried it with Whitney, but Whitney gathered her together within 5 minutes...they were the best of friends after that.
-LA and Babyface wrote "I'm Your Baby Tonight", thinking they wrote the song to be way too hard to sing, so they planned to be recording the song with Whitney for several days. The day she came, she wanted to go to the mall before it closed in an hour, and sang each part of that song in one take. She was done with the whole vocal in 20 minutes.
-"End of The Road" by Boyz 2 Men was written for Anita Baker, but she turned it down twice.
-Apparently, Anita Baker was kinda the vocal bible of that time...many of the artists throughout the book seemed to reference or namedrop her in the studio.
-Michael Jackson was a huge fan of Janet's Rhythm Nation album. LA and Babyface first thought MJ mistook them for Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis, because he would mention RN when talking about what he wanted from them.
-TLC always had some kind of drama going on backstage. Tupac was on set for the "Creep" video the whole time.
-Babyface and Darryl Simmons (the guy who signed Bran to Atlantic) were not impressed with Usher when he auditioned. For a long time, LA kept trying to get them into Usher, but they never agreed on Usher.
-LA's favorite album is Secrets by Toni Braxton
-Pebbles didn't have TLC's money either, but because she had such a heavy-handed, catfight relationship with them since the beginning...she quickly became the enemy.
There are a lot more interesting points in the book.
QuoteMichael Jackson was a huge fan of Janet's Rhythm Nation album. LA and Babyface first thought MJ mistook them for Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis, because he would mention RN when talking about what he wanted from them.
Hhhhhhjj
QuoteShe tried it with Whitney, but Whitney gathered her together within 5 minutes...they were the best of friends after that.
ffffffffffffff
Yes Whit!!! I immediately think of how she gathered Wendy :dead:
Did u edit out the Whitney excerpt?
Quote-LA's favorite album is Secrets by Toni Braxton
This album is such a classic! :stressed:
I need more. This was getting interesting.
interesting! thx for sharing.
Interesting
Quote-Babyface and Darryl Simmons (the guy who signed Bran to Atlantic) were not impressed with Usher when he auditioned. For a long time, LA kept trying to get them into Usher, but they never agreed on Usher.
:plzstop:
Ggg
Usher is so lucky
more cliffnotes, I'm paraphrasing these so they don't get too long.
-It was Pebbles idea that Toni's early style should mirror Halle Berry's style (hair and clothes) from the Boomerang movie
-Clive Davis and the whole Arista team did not like "Waterfalls". Clive felt that "Red Light Special" was the big hit.
-After LeftEye burned down Andre Rison's house, Clive called LA suggesting that he start making plans to have Chilli become a solo artist. LA didn't think Chilli had what it took be a solo act.
-LA thought very highly of T-Boz. He consulted her opinion often, as she always seemed to be ahead of the curve when it came to styles and sounds and what was hot
-Outkast was supposed to be signed by Pebbles to Pebbitone like TLC, but their mediocre first audition stopped that from happening.
-LA thinks Tevin Campbell was a vocal beast, but felt he didn't have any star quality. He called him a "radio voice".
-You were required to sign a confidentiality agreement before you were able to see MJ.
-MJ played a prank on them when they first met. He sent a helicopter to pick them up to bring them to Neverland. He instructed the pilot to cause heavy turbulence and act like the helicopter was malfunctioning. He went into a laughing fit when they arrived looking spooked and disheveled.
Quote from: Digital Hipster on February 03, 2016, 09:50:00 PM
more cliffnotes, I'm paraphrasing these so they don't get too long.
-It was Pebbles idea that Toni's early style should mirror Halle Berry's style (hair and clothes) from the Boomerang movie
wow.
so that was done purposely
makes sense, because this fucking cover...something told me SOMEONE had to be aware of what was taking place here
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c1/ToniBraxtonUnBreakMyHeartCDSingleCover.jpg)
Quote from: Digital Hipster on February 03, 2016, 09:50:00 PM
more cliffnotes, I'm paraphrasing these so they don't get too long.
-.
-After LeftEye burned down Andre Rison's house, Clive called LA suggesting that he start making plans to have Chilli become a solo artist.
kiiiiiiiii
(http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3494/635/400/chilli.gif)
Ver' interesting.... thanks for sharing bby.
I might have to get this book.
:letsmessfag:
D
Why did you edit out the rest of the quote
Quote from: Digital Hipster on February 03, 2016, 08:49:24 PM
-Michael Jackson was a huge fan of Janet's Rhythm Nation album. LA and Babyface first thought MJ mistook them for Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis, because he would mention RN when talking about what he wanted from them.
I died. :plzstop:
whitney is a fucking kii
-After LeftEye burned down Andre Rison's house, Clive called LA suggesting that he start making plans to have Chilli become a solo artist. LA didn't think Chilli had what it took be a solo act.
this business is a fucking kii
not clive saying "oh fuck, group over, what's next?!"
:kii:
and MJ's prank
:kii:
he was such a fucking kii
Quote from: Digital Hipster on February 03, 2016, 09:50:00 PM
-MJ played a prank on them when they first met. He sent a helicopter to pick them up to bring them to Neverland. He instructed the pilot to cause heavy turbulence and act like the helicopter was malfunctioning. He went into a laughing fit when they arrived looking spooked and disheveled.
Such a child. Wasn't MJ afraid of flying though?? :plzstop:
Quote from: Herbie on February 03, 2016, 09:54:35 PM
Quote from: Digital Hipster on February 03, 2016, 09:50:00 PM
more cliffnotes, I'm paraphrasing these so they don't get too long.
-It was Pebbles idea that Toni's early style should mirror Halle Berry's style (hair and clothes) from the Boomerang movie
wow.
so that was done purposely
makes sense, because this fucking cover...something told me SOMEONE had to be aware of what was taking place here
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c1/ToniBraxtonUnBreakMyHeartCDSingleCover.jpg)
this fucking cover should be iconic
Does he talk about working with Britney? :ohwow:
n
Quote from: Herbie on February 03, 2016, 09:56:26 PM
Quote from: Digital Hipster on February 03, 2016, 09:50:00 PM
more cliffnotes, I'm paraphrasing these so they don't get too long.
-.
-After LeftEye burned down Andre Rison's house, Clive called LA suggesting that he start making plans to have Chilli become a solo artist.
kiiiiiiiii
(http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3494/635/400/chilli.gif)
bbb
How'd that go for her?
Not Whit lashing Pebbles
dsaadlsas,ds
Quote from: NexTae on February 03, 2016, 10:12:36 PM
Quote from: Herbie on February 03, 2016, 09:56:26 PM
Quote from: Digital Hipster on February 03, 2016, 09:50:00 PM
more cliffnotes, I'm paraphrasing these so they don't get too long.
-.
-After LeftEye burned down Andre Rison's house, Clive called LA suggesting that he start making plans to have Chilli become a solo artist.
kiiiiiiiii
(http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3494/635/400/chilli.gif)
bbb
How'd that go for her?
same way that fucking tow truck went. forward
more like Success Proof
comb proof
release proof
fuck this game
fas is a slut hun.
I had tickets to meet T-Boz and Chilli when they were touring with New Kids On The Block but I was late to the meet and greet. But their manager gave me a signed poster after I had to go through like 3 staff members. :howfestive: :raycharles2urmess:
asdsadas;mdlasdsmsmmmmmm
(http://www.bet.com/topics/a/ananda-lewis/_jcr_content/topicintro.topicintro.dimg/042312-celeb-topic-ananda-lewis.jpg)
Quote from: Amara on February 03, 2016, 08:53:36 PM
QuoteMichael Jackson was a huge fan of Janet's Rhythm Nation album. LA and Babyface first thought MJ mistook them for Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis, because he would mention RN when talking about what he wanted from them.
Hhhhhhjj
:letsmessfag: :letsmessfag: :letsmessfag:
Quote-Babyface and Darryl Simmons (the guy who signed Bran to Atlantic) were not impressed with Usher when he auditioned. For a long time, LA kept trying to get them into Usher, but they never agreed on Usher.
:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
other segments
-LA at a point found himself having doubts about Usher, after other people had been very 'meh' about him. Diddy was someone who really championed Usher. LA frequently voiced his concern for Usher's vocal shortcomings during the production of the My Way album. The My Way album went through a few drafts, as no one felt Usher's music had any hit potential. My Way was Jermaine Dupri's vision. Usher didn't like "You Make Me Wanna", but LA loved it. He felt it gave the illusion that Usher had more range and soul than he really had at the time.
-LA feels black catalog (music) doesn't sell as well as white catalog because there just aren't as many black people in the country. Black artists would need to appeal to white people in order to sell big numbers, while white artists don't need to appeal to anything. It's just how the nation is made up. With only 13% of the population being black, there's always the chance that only 13% of the population will take notice to you if your black. LA finds it just an inbred hurdle.
-LA didn't understand TONI's first bankruptcy and drama. He had always felt that they had taken care of her and paid her correctly. Toni hated all the ballads and the gowns they were making her wear, as she felt it made her sound boring and look old.
-LeftEye was almost completely absent from the FanMail recordings. When he was played the FanMail album, he said he didn't hear any hits outside of No Scrubs. He asked Missy if she had anything for TLC, and she sent "Where My Girls At?". He loved it, and sent it to them saying it would be the 2nd single after Scrubs. They sent it back, because it wasn't from their Atlanta camp. He called and begged T-Boz to do the song, and agreed to pay her the same amount he was paying Missy for it, and T-Boz called back and told him he was a "dick rider" for trying to hop on the dick of whoever is hot.
Damn Ush no one saw it for you
QuoteLeftEye was almost completely absent from the FanMail recordings. When he was played the FanMail album, he said he didn't hear any hits outside of No Scrubs. He asked Missy if she had anything for TLC, and she sent "Where My Girls At?". He loved it, and sent it to them saying it would be the 2nd single after Scrubs. They sent it back, because it wasn't from their Atlanta camp. He called and begged T-Boz to do the song, and agreed to pay her the same amount he was paying Missy for it, and T-Boz called back and told him he was a "dick rider" for trying to hop on the dick of whoever is hot.
:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
They was very stupid to pass up on Where My Girls At. I never understood why TLC didn't get that song.
Quote from: Digital Hipster on February 03, 2016, 10:48:52 PM
other segments
-LA at a point found himself having doubts about Usher, after other people had been very 'meh' about him. Diddy was someone who really championed Usher. LA frequently voiced his concern for Usher's vocal shortcomings during the production of the My Way album. The My Way album went through a few drafts, as no one felt Usher's music had any hit potential. My Way was Jermaine Dupri's vision. Usher didn't like "You Make Me Wanna", but LA loved it. He felt it gave the illusion that Usher had more range and soul than he really had at the time.
-LA feels black catalog (music) doesn't sell as well as white catalog because there just aren't as many black people in the country. Black artists would need to appeal to white people in order to sell big numbers, while white artists don't need to appeal to anything. It's just how the nation is made up. With only 13% of the population being black, there's always the chance that only 13% of the population will take notice to you if your black. LA finds it just an inbred hurdle.
-LA didn't understand TONI's first bankruptcy and drama. He had always felt that they had taken care of her and paid her correctly. Toni hated all the ballads and the gowns they were making her wear, as she felt it made her sound boring and look old.
-LeftEye was almost completely absent from the FanMail recordings. When he was played the FanMail album, he said he didn't hear any hits outside of No Scrubs. He asked Missy if she had anything for TLC, and she sent "Where My Girls At?". He loved it, and sent it to them saying it would be the 2nd single after Scrubs. They sent it back, because it wasn't from their Atlanta camp. He called and begged T-Boz to do the song, and agreed to pay her the same amount he was paying Missy for it, and T-Boz called back and told him he was a "dick rider" for trying to hop on the dick of whoever is hot.[/i]
tears
wait KING Reid
Quote from: Mista on February 04, 2016, 12:16:33 AM
They was very stupid to pass up on Where My Girls At. I never understood why TLC didn't get that song.
No they weren't. They didn't have the vocal agility 702 had so good thing they gave it away.
wow, these are interesting as FCK!
Wow now Usher has probably made him more money than any one else on LaFace
prove them wrong KING!
Quote from: inluvwitbran on February 04, 2016, 12:51:09 AM
Wow now Usher has probably made him more money than any one else on LaFace
prove them wrong KING!
prove us wrong luv
show us ur gf :ohwow:
Quote from: Herbie on February 04, 2016, 12:52:33 AM
Quote from: inluvwitbran on February 04, 2016, 12:51:09 AM
Wow now Usher has probably made him more money than any one else on LaFace
prove them wrong KING!
prove us wrong luv
show us ur gf :ohwow:
youre white :ohwow:
Quote from: Herbie on February 04, 2016, 12:52:33 AM
Quote from: inluvwitbran on February 04, 2016, 12:51:09 AM
Wow now Usher has probably made him more money than any one else on LaFace
prove them wrong KING!
prove us wrong luv
show us ur gf :ohwow:
sfddddddddddddddddddddddd
Quote from: Herbie on February 04, 2016, 12:52:33 AM
Quote from: inluvwitbran on February 04, 2016, 12:51:09 AM
Wow now Usher has probably made him more money than any one else on LaFace
prove them wrong KING!
prove us wrong luv
show us ur gf :ohwow:
zxxxxzzzxxzxxxxcccxzz
Quote from: imaan. on February 04, 2016, 12:44:41 AM
Quote from: Mista on February 04, 2016, 12:16:33 AM
They was very stupid to pass up on Where My Girls At. I never understood why TLC didn't get that song.
No they weren't. They didn't have the vocal agility 702 had so good thing they gave it away.
Missy would found away love. The song went perfect for the FanMail era. No Scrubs was the last song they recorded for FanMail. That album would have tanked without it.
Ush is King. Wtf is wrong with LA shiny head self. Out of all these people in his book, Ush is the only collection I own. Purchased every freaking album.
Quote from: inluvwitbran on February 04, 2016, 12:54:19 AM
Quote from: Herbie on February 04, 2016, 12:52:33 AM
Quote from: inluvwitbran on February 04, 2016, 12:51:09 AM
Wow now Usher has probably made him more money than any one else on LaFace
prove them wrong KING!
prove us wrong luv
show us ur gf :ohwow:
youre white :ohwow:
:omgwatshappening:
they are shading the fuck out of usher
omf
-LeftEye was almost completely absent from the FanMail recordings. When he was played the FanMail album, he said he didn't hear any hits outside of No Scrubs. He asked Missy if she had anything for TLC, and she sent "Where My Girls At?". He loved it, and sent it to them saying it would be the 2nd single after Scrubs. They sent it back, because it wasn't from their Atlanta camp. He called and begged T-Boz to do the song, and agreed to pay her the same amount he was paying Missy for it, and T-Boz called back and told him he was a "dick rider" for trying to hop on the dick of whoever is hot.
I love TLC
:kii:
Quote from: Mista on February 04, 2016, 12:16:33 AM
They was very stupid to pass up on Where My Girls At. I never understood why TLC didn't get that song.
wasn't meant for them
it went to right people
just like how brit's "one more time" was sent to TLC and tossed.
Quote from: imaan. on February 04, 2016, 12:43:59 AM
Quote from: Digital Hipster on February 03, 2016, 10:48:52 PM
other segments
-LA at a point found himself having doubts about Usher, after other people had been very 'meh' about him. Diddy was someone who really championed Usher. LA frequently voiced his concern for Usher's vocal shortcomings during the production of the My Way album. The My Way album went through a few drafts, as no one felt Usher's music had any hit potential. My Way was Jermaine Dupri's vision. Usher didn't like "You Make Me Wanna", but LA loved it. He felt it gave the illusion that Usher had more range and soul than he really had at the time.
-LA feels black catalog (music) doesn't sell as well as white catalog because there just aren't as many black people in the country. Black artists would need to appeal to white people in order to sell big numbers, while white artists don't need to appeal to anything. It's just how the nation is made up. With only 13% of the population being black, there's always the chance that only 13% of the population will take notice to you if your black. LA finds it just an inbred hurdle.
-LA didn't understand TONI's first bankruptcy and drama. He had always felt that they had taken care of her and paid her correctly. Toni hated all the ballads and the gowns they were making her wear, as she felt it made her sound boring and look old.
-LeftEye was almost completely absent from the FanMail recordings. When he was played the FanMail album, he said he didn't hear any hits outside of No Scrubs. He asked Missy if she had anything for TLC, and she sent "Where My Girls At?". He loved it, and sent it to them saying it would be the 2nd single after Scrubs. They sent it back, because it wasn't from their Atlanta camp. He called and begged T-Boz to do the song, and agreed to pay her the same amount he was paying Missy for it, and T-Boz called back and told him he was a "dick rider" for trying to hop on the dick of whoever is hot.[/i]
tears
wait KING Reid
i have always felt that Usher is respected for being SUCCESSFUL
I don't think of his vocals or anything about his craft
:dead:
T Boz would have killed One More Time but it sound pop and not in their line.
Quote from: R. on February 04, 2016, 01:43:15 AM
Quote from: imaan. on February 04, 2016, 12:43:59 AM
Quote from: Digital Hipster on February 03, 2016, 10:48:52 PM
other segments
-LA at a point found himself having doubts about Usher, after other people had been very 'meh' about him. Diddy was someone who really championed Usher. LA frequently voiced his concern for Usher's vocal shortcomings during the production of the My Way album. The My Way album went through a few drafts, as no one felt Usher's music had any hit potential. My Way was Jermaine Dupri's vision. Usher didn't like "You Make Me Wanna", but LA loved it. He felt it gave the illusion that Usher had more range and soul than he really had at the time.
-LA feels black catalog (music) doesn't sell as well as white catalog because there just aren't as many black people in the country. Black artists would need to appeal to white people in order to sell big numbers, while white artists don't need to appeal to anything. It's just how the nation is made up. With only 13% of the population being black, there's always the chance that only 13% of the population will take notice to you if your black. LA finds it just an inbred hurdle.
-LA didn't understand TONI's first bankruptcy and drama. He had always felt that they had taken care of her and paid her correctly. Toni hated all the ballads and the gowns they were making her wear, as she felt it made her sound boring and look old.
-LeftEye was almost completely absent from the FanMail recordings. When he was played the FanMail album, he said he didn't hear any hits outside of No Scrubs. He asked Missy if she had anything for TLC, and she sent "Where My Girls At?". He loved it, and sent it to them saying it would be the 2nd single after Scrubs. They sent it back, because it wasn't from their Atlanta camp. He called and begged T-Boz to do the song, and agreed to pay her the same amount he was paying Missy for it, and T-Boz called back and told him he was a "dick rider" for trying to hop on the dick of whoever is hot.[/i]
tears
wait KING Reid
i have always felt that Usher is respected for being SUCCESSFUL
I don't think of his vocals or anything about his craft
:dead:
thats unfortunate
he's definitely been praised for his craft
Vocals, dancing, performing etc
Brandy said he was AMAZING in Chicago
Quote from: inluvwitbran on February 04, 2016, 01:49:35 AM
Quote from: R. on February 04, 2016, 01:43:15 AM
Quote from: imaan. on February 04, 2016, 12:43:59 AM
Quote from: Digital Hipster on February 03, 2016, 10:48:52 PM
other segments
-LA at a point found himself having doubts about Usher, after other people had been very 'meh' about him. Diddy was someone who really championed Usher. LA frequently voiced his concern for Usher's vocal shortcomings during the production of the My Way album. The My Way album went through a few drafts, as no one felt Usher's music had any hit potential. My Way was Jermaine Dupri's vision. Usher didn't like "You Make Me Wanna", but LA loved it. He felt it gave the illusion that Usher had more range and soul than he really had at the time.
-LA feels black catalog (music) doesn't sell as well as white catalog because there just aren't as many black people in the country. Black artists would need to appeal to white people in order to sell big numbers, while white artists don't need to appeal to anything. It's just how the nation is made up. With only 13% of the population being black, there's always the chance that only 13% of the population will take notice to you if your black. LA finds it just an inbred hurdle.
-LA didn't understand TONI's first bankruptcy and drama. He had always felt that they had taken care of her and paid her correctly. Toni hated all the ballads and the gowns they were making her wear, as she felt it made her sound boring and look old.
-LeftEye was almost completely absent from the FanMail recordings. When he was played the FanMail album, he said he didn't hear any hits outside of No Scrubs. He asked Missy if she had anything for TLC, and she sent "Where My Girls At?". He loved it, and sent it to them saying it would be the 2nd single after Scrubs. They sent it back, because it wasn't from their Atlanta camp. He called and begged T-Boz to do the song, and agreed to pay her the same amount he was paying Missy for it, and T-Boz called back and told him he was a "dick rider" for trying to hop on the dick of whoever is hot.[/i]
tears
wait KING Reid
i have always felt that Usher is respected for being SUCCESSFUL
I don't think of his vocals or anything about his craft
:dead:
thats unfortunate
he's definitely been praised for his craft
Vocals, dancing, performing etc
Brandy said he was AMAZING in Chicago
Brandy says EVERYBODY is amazing, hun.
It's ok for Usher to be known or respected for just being SUCCESSFUL and clearly having someone behind him to push through... cause even his own people didn't see it for him.
And even with all the #1s and albums sold... they were right.
I mean, we're not here for his vocals. lol. or his artistry. just not there.
Ush made songs to fit his craft. He was really in his own lane.
JD made him a success. He upgraded his swag.
whew! so glad chris is the male brandy, music-wise
although he's a nut, personality wise
Quote from: Mista on February 04, 2016, 01:52:53 AM
Ush made songs to fit his craft. He was really in his own lane.
O?
ok.
LA is fucking shady.
"to give the illusion that Ush could..."
I can't
:dead:
Quote from: R. on February 04, 2016, 01:53:21 AM
whew! so glad chris is the male brandy, music-wise
although he's a nut, personality wise
Boy you don't even believe that shit. Chris can't even sing. u tried Bran.
Quote from: imaan. on February 04, 2016, 12:43:59 AM
Quote from: Digital Hipster on February 03, 2016, 10:48:52 PM
other segments
-LA at a point found himself having doubts about Usher, after other people had been very 'meh' about him. Diddy was someone who really championed Usher. LA frequently voiced his concern for Usher's vocal shortcomings during the production of the My Way album. The My Way album went through a few drafts, as no one felt Usher's music had any hit potential. My Way was Jermaine Dupri's vision. Usher didn't like "You Make Me Wanna", but LA loved it. He felt it gave the illusion that Usher had more range and soul than he really had at the time.
-LA feels black catalog (music) doesn't sell as well as white catalog because there just aren't as many black people in the country. Black artists would need to appeal to white people in order to sell big numbers, while white artists don't need to appeal to anything. It's just how the nation is made up. With only 13% of the population being black, there's always the chance that only 13% of the population will take notice to you if your black. LA finds it just an inbred hurdle.
-LA didn't understand TONI's first bankruptcy and drama. He had always felt that they had taken care of her and paid her correctly. Toni hated all the ballads and the gowns they were making her wear, as she felt it made her sound boring and look old.
-LeftEye was almost completely absent from the FanMail recordings. When he was played the FanMail album, he said he didn't hear any hits outside of No Scrubs. He asked Missy if she had anything for TLC, and she sent "Where My Girls At?". He loved it, and sent it to them saying it would be the 2nd single after Scrubs. They sent it back, because it wasn't from their Atlanta camp. He called and begged T-Boz to do the song, and agreed to pay her the same amount he was paying Missy for it, and T-Boz called back and told him he was a "dick rider" for trying to hop on the dick of whoever is hot.[/i]
tears
wait KING Reid
bvbnhvnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
TEARS!
Quote from: Mista on February 04, 2016, 01:55:32 AM
Quote from: R. on February 04, 2016, 01:53:21 AM
whew! so glad chris is the male brandy, music-wise
although he's a nut, personality wise
Boy you don't even believe that shit. Chris can't even sing. u tried Bran.
i honestly do consider chris the male brandy
not literally
but his style, the way he does things... he's clearly influenced by her
and is the closest male counter-part IMO, of course
everyone else will think otherwise
Quote from: R. on February 04, 2016, 01:59:39 AM
Quote from: Mista on February 04, 2016, 01:55:32 AM
Quote from: R. on February 04, 2016, 01:53:21 AM
whew! so glad chris is the male brandy, music-wise
although he's a nut, personality wise
Boy you don't even believe that shit. Chris can't even sing. u tried Bran.
i honestly do consider chris the male brandy
not literally
but his style, the way he does things... he's clearly influenced by her
and is the closest male counter-part IMO, of course
everyone else will think otherwise
Yea I don't see it.
Quote from: R. on February 04, 2016, 01:50:44 AM
Quote from: inluvwitbran on February 04, 2016, 01:49:35 AM
Quote from: R. on February 04, 2016, 01:43:15 AM
Quote from: imaan. on February 04, 2016, 12:43:59 AM
Quote from: Digital Hipster on February 03, 2016, 10:48:52 PM
other segments
-LA at a point found himself having doubts about Usher, after other people had been very 'meh' about him. Diddy was someone who really championed Usher. LA frequently voiced his concern for Usher's vocal shortcomings during the production of the My Way album. The My Way album went through a few drafts, as no one felt Usher's music had any hit potential. My Way was Jermaine Dupri's vision. Usher didn't like "You Make Me Wanna", but LA loved it. He felt it gave the illusion that Usher had more range and soul than he really had at the time.
-LA feels black catalog (music) doesn't sell as well as white catalog because there just aren't as many black people in the country. Black artists would need to appeal to white people in order to sell big numbers, while white artists don't need to appeal to anything. It's just how the nation is made up. With only 13% of the population being black, there's always the chance that only 13% of the population will take notice to you if your black. LA finds it just an inbred hurdle.
-LA didn't understand TONI's first bankruptcy and drama. He had always felt that they had taken care of her and paid her correctly. Toni hated all the ballads and the gowns they were making her wear, as she felt it made her sound boring and look old.
-LeftEye was almost completely absent from the FanMail recordings. When he was played the FanMail album, he said he didn't hear any hits outside of No Scrubs. He asked Missy if she had anything for TLC, and she sent "Where My Girls At?". He loved it, and sent it to them saying it would be the 2nd single after Scrubs. They sent it back, because it wasn't from their Atlanta camp. He called and begged T-Boz to do the song, and agreed to pay her the same amount he was paying Missy for it, and T-Boz called back and told him he was a "dick rider" for trying to hop on the dick of whoever is hot.[/i]
tears
wait KING Reid
i have always felt that Usher is respected for being SUCCESSFUL
I don't think of his vocals or anything about his craft
:dead:
thats unfortunate
he's definitely been praised for his craft
Vocals, dancing, performing etc
Brandy said he was AMAZING in Chicago
Brandy says EVERYBODY is amazing, hun.
no she doesn't
and definitely not amazing enough to inspire HER to do something after they did or even PAY to go to their shows
whatever helps ray
Quote from: Mista on February 04, 2016, 02:01:05 AM
Quote from: R. on February 04, 2016, 01:59:39 AM
Quote from: Mista on February 04, 2016, 01:55:32 AM
Quote from: R. on February 04, 2016, 01:53:21 AM
whew! so glad chris is the male brandy, music-wise
although he's a nut, personality wise
Boy you don't even believe that shit. Chris can't even sing. u tried Bran.
i honestly do consider chris the male brandy
not literally
but his style, the way he does things... he's clearly influenced by her
and is the closest male counter-part IMO, of course
everyone else will think otherwise
Yea I don't see it.
cool
Quote from: R. on February 04, 2016, 01:52:20 AM
It's ok for Usher to be known or respected for just being SUCCESSFUL and clearly having someone behind him to push through... cause even his own people didn't see it for him.
And even with all the #1s and albums sold... they were right.
I mean, we're not here for his vocals. lol. or his artistry. just not there.
he was only like 15 at the time that "his people" said this and going through puberty
and who is this "we" that's not here for his vocals or artistry? Climax is one of the most CRITICALLY ACCLAIMED R&B songs of the past 5 years
forget the success. None of these niggas are pulling off that song vocally either
Quote from: Mista on February 04, 2016, 01:55:32 AM
Quote from: R. on February 04, 2016, 01:53:21 AM
whew! so glad chris is the male brandy, music-wise
although he's a nut, personality wise
Boy you don't even believe that shit. Chris can't even sing. u tried Bran.
tried the FUCK out of her
Speaking of Chris
HE SAID
Quote?If it wasn?t for Usher, then Chris Brown couldn?t exist,? he maintains. ?When I would look at Usher, I would be like ?F**k, he has it.? The only other guy that I looked at like that was Michael Jackson.?
ok!
chris's artistry and his delivery has brandy-isms
sorry'
maybe not his latest work. but yeah.
Next up is NE-YO
Ne-Yo doesn't think he'd exist without Usher.
The 32-year-old singer explained the 'Climax' hitmaker has been a huge influence on his career and believes he has helped other R'n'B musicians including Chris Brown and Trey Songz to flourish.
Aw
Miguel
Usher is a friend. Vocally there?s no one fucking with Usher right now in mainstream R&B.
Drake praising Usher here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JlJQ1Y3sb0
Oh! Just his Success!
:feelinmyself:
Trey Songz calls him an Amazing performer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXvf572yZEk
b
n
:feelinmyself:
Usher is TERRIBLE! I could see how they weren't impressed, hes not REALLY a great singer
Honor your King Trey!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siIHZdeCYfk
Im reading thru these pages and im sorry but :dead:
Ive ALWAYS felt that way about usher. He can't really sing imo
Stan to this ALBUM cut Chris
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHHcqvRAkkY
Quote from: Vonc2002 on February 04, 2016, 02:36:19 AM
Im reading thru these pages and im sorry but :dead:
Ive ALWAYS felt that way about usher. He can't really sing imo
!!! :dead:
Just checked and 5 of Usher's EIGHT Grammy wins
are based on VOCAL PERFORMANCE
King!
crine
There is a reason Usher isn't too successful now.
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on February 03, 2016, 10:42:41 PM
Quote from: Amara on February 03, 2016, 08:53:36 PM
QuoteMichael Jackson was a huge fan of Janet's Rhythm Nation album. LA and Babyface first thought MJ mistook them for Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis, because he would mention RN when talking about what he wanted from them.
Hhhhhhjj
:letsmessfag: :letsmessfag: :letsmessfag:
jjjj
All the girls that were saying that Janet copied MJ can hush now
MJ was busy going around looking for his own RN :dead:
Quote from: Vonc2002 on February 04, 2016, 02:36:19 AM
Im reading thru these pages and im sorry but :dead:
Ive ALWAYS felt that way about usher. He can't really sing imo
The nerve of you saying someone can't sing but Stan for Rihanna. You have lost your mind.
Bhhhhh
Usher may not have the most charasmatic voice or music
But he can definitely sing :dead:
Quote from: Mista on February 04, 2016, 07:04:12 AM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on February 04, 2016, 02:36:19 AM
Im reading thru these pages and im sorry but :dead:
Ive ALWAYS felt that way about usher. He can't really sing imo
The nerve of you saying someone can't sing but Stan for Rihanna. You have lost your mind.
Faggot wtf does one thing have to do with the other? When have u even seen me call rihanna some great vocalist? I wish yo stupid ass would stay outta my quotes. The nerve of u to try and draw a fckn comparison and u cant even fathom what a damn diploma might look like, dummy faggot
Quote from: Amara on February 04, 2016, 07:12:53 AM
Bhhhhh
Usher may not have the most charasmatic voice or music
But he can definitely sing :dead:
He aint a HORRIBLE singer, he just isn't incredibly skilled either
Quote from: Vonc2002 on February 04, 2016, 08:15:20 AM
Quote from: Mista on February 04, 2016, 07:04:12 AM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on February 04, 2016, 02:36:19 AM
Im reading thru these pages and im sorry but :dead:
Ive ALWAYS felt that way about usher. He can't really sing imo
The nerve of you saying someone can't sing but Stan for Rihanna. You have lost your mind.
Faggot wtf does one thing have to do with the other? When have u even seen me call rihanna some great vocalist? I wish yo stupid ass would stay outta my quotes. The nerve of u to try and draw a fckn comparison and u cant even fathom what a damn diploma might look like, dummy faggot
It's too early to be in flames. You read it correct and it's not going no where faggot. Just get ficking use to me, ok. Good day.
Quote from: Vonc2002 on February 04, 2016, 08:15:20 AM
Quote from: Mista on February 04, 2016, 07:04:12 AM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on February 04, 2016, 02:36:19 AM
Im reading thru these pages and im sorry but :dead:
Ive ALWAYS felt that way about usher. He can't really sing imo
The nerve of you saying someone can't sing but Stan for Rihanna. You have lost your mind.
Faggot wtf does one thing have to do with the other? When have u even seen me call rihanna some great vocalist? I wish yo stupid ass would stay outta my quotes. The nerve of u to try and draw a fckn comparison and u cant even fathom what a damn diploma might look like, dummy faggot
:feelinmyself:
Quote2. When Reid and Edmonds were at Neverland discussing music with Michael, Reid says, they saw how giddy Michael got while watching his then-rival Prince mess up. Michael put on footage of Prince experiencing technical difficulties during a concert and laughed at it:
"Prince [couldn't] make his guitar work, frantically stripping off his shirt and trying tricks with the microphone stand and making all these poses. After Michael's dazzling star turn, Prince fell as flat as he could, and Michael enjoyed laughing at the video. ...
"After that, he put on a scene from Prince's movie Under the Cherry Moon, the artsy black-and-white bomb he made after Purple Rain, and he laughed some more at Prince."
Wtf MJ :plzstop:
I would have loved to hang around MJ.
Quote from: Mista on February 04, 2016, 08:29:39 AM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on February 04, 2016, 08:15:20 AM
Quote from: Mista on February 04, 2016, 07:04:12 AM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on February 04, 2016, 02:36:19 AM
Im reading thru these pages and im sorry but :dead:
Ive ALWAYS felt that way about usher. He can't really sing imo
The nerve of you saying someone can't sing but Stan for Rihanna. You have lost your mind.
Faggot wtf does one thing have to do with the other? When have u even seen me call rihanna some great vocalist? I wish yo stupid ass would stay outta my quotes. The nerve of u to try and draw a fckn comparison and u cant even fathom what a damn diploma might look like, dummy faggot
It's too early to be in flames. You read it correct and it's not going no where faggot. Just get ficking use to me, ok. Good day.
Faggot, don't quote me. I dont give a fck about u nor about who u consider great, hence me not bothering to quote u. maybe if yo bubba gump ass kept more to yourself, u wouldn't get tossed by the whole fckn board
And what I said stands, usher aint nobody's great singer
Now I'm all for respecting everyone's opinion and I know this is a subjective topic but, no way in hell is CB a better singer than Usher.Usher is one of the most dynamic male vocalist, IMO.His voice is damn near perfect when live.
Shut up nigger
Damn it
MJ was a fucking kii. I wish he were still alive. Him and Whitney.
Quote from: Mista on February 04, 2016, 08:29:39 AM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on February 04, 2016, 08:15:20 AM
Quote from: Mista on February 04, 2016, 07:04:12 AM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on February 04, 2016, 02:36:19 AM
Im reading thru these pages and im sorry but :dead:
Ive ALWAYS felt that way about usher. He can't really sing imo
The nerve of you saying someone can't sing but Stan for Rihanna. You have lost your mind.
Faggot wtf does one thing have to do with the other? When have u even seen me call rihanna some great vocalist? I wish yo stupid ass would stay outta my quotes. The nerve of u to try and draw a fckn comparison and u cant even fathom what a damn diploma might look like, dummy faggot
It's too early to be in flames. You read it correct and it's not going no where faggot. Just get ficking use to me, ok. Good day.
you do realize you started it right?
who said Chris is the male brandy :uhh:
who called chris the male brandy
do u smoke crack
vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv not at the same time
Quote from: Vonc2002 on February 04, 2016, 08:41:30 AM
And what I said stands, usher aint nobody's great singer
He's nobody's Donny or Luther but I'll take him over Chris, Trey and that half dead one that Marg stans for tbh.
Chris has a DISGUSTING VOICE
but guys, don't drag ralf like this
Quote from: Theonc? on February 04, 2016, 03:47:01 AM
Quote from: R. on February 04, 2016, 01:59:39 AM
Quote from: Mista on February 04, 2016, 01:55:32 AM
Quote from: R. on February 04, 2016, 01:53:21 AM
whew! so glad chris is the male brandy, music-wise
although he's a nut, personality wise
Boy you don't even believe that shit. Chris can't even sing. u tried Bran.
i honestly do consider chris the male brandy
not literally
but his style, the way he does things... he's clearly influenced by her
and is the closest male counter-part IMO, of course
everyone else will think otherwise
you're crazy
:uhh: :uhh: :uhh: :uhh: :uhh: :uhh:
dasssssssssssjnas;da
I'm crying
Ralf GORL
You Stan for Rihanna faggot. You wouldn't understand talent if Jesus tapped you on the fucking shoulders and told you faggot. Chris could never deliverr a Climax or Can you Handle It mess. Aug and Trey sing better than him. Von, you are so disgusting and brain dead. Just plain dumb.
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have y'all ever heard trey live omf vvvvvvvvvv;
Cynthia Girl
(http://media.giphy.com/media/qU4KL7Y5s82re/giphy.gif)
Quote from: sumcatbroad on February 04, 2016, 09:45:33 AM
have y'all ever heard trey live omf vvvvvvvvvv;
Chris still sound like his debut album. His voice will never fucking mature.
Do not quote me
Quote from: R. on February 04, 2016, 01:41:02 AM
-LeftEye was almost completely absent from the FanMail recordings. When he was played the FanMail album, he said he didn't hear any hits outside of No Scrubs. He asked Missy if she had anything for TLC, and she sent "Where My Girls At?". He loved it, and sent it to them saying it would be the 2nd single after Scrubs. They sent it back, because it wasn't from their Atlanta camp. He called and begged T-Boz to do the song, and agreed to pay her the same amount he was paying Missy for it, and T-Boz called back and told him he was a "dick rider" for trying to hop on the dick of whoever is hot.
I love TLC
:kii:
:plzstop: :plzstop:
Quote from: sumcatbroad on February 04, 2016, 10:11:51 AM
Do not quote me
sssdssssssdssssssssssd
That pea brained faggot needs desperately to find a fckn friend
Quote from: ANIMMAI on February 04, 2016, 09:39:13 AM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on February 04, 2016, 08:41:30 AM
And what I said stands, usher aint nobody's great singer
He's nobody's Donny or Luther but I'll take him over Chris, Trey and that half dead one that Marg stans for tbh.
not too fucking much, k
Quote from: Vonc2002 on February 04, 2016, 11:05:58 AM
Quote from: sumcatbroad on February 04, 2016, 10:11:51 AM
Do not quote me
sssdssssssdssssssssssd
That pea brained faggot needs desperately to find a fckn friend
:plzstop:
Don't get mad, get glad, fag.
ssssssssssssssss
what a CORNY faggot :dead:
You really have to get over me posting here. Stop getting in your feelings. I heard you are a nice dude but all I haven seen is the bitter man side. Stop being so upset hun. Smile.
n
Usher fucking sucks. I am sorry.
Quote from: Rajesha on February 04, 2016, 12:11:51 PM
Usher fucking sucks. I am sorry.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :kii:
I heard He wrote something about Mariah...