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Title: People actually think you pop a PrEP mess and you're good now.
Post by: BAPHOMET. on October 19, 2016, 09:16:39 PM
Second Case Emerges of Someone On Daily Prep Getting HIV


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QuoteA second man taking the daily HIV-prevention pill Truvada has been infected by a rare drug-resistant strain of the virus.

The results were presented by Cleveland Clinic HIV specialist Howard Grossman, who unveiled the finding at the 2016 HIV Research for Prevention conference in Chicago on Tuesday.

The patient, who is not releasing his name or age to protect his privacy, is a gay man who had been taking the drug daily since January 2016. Hair and blood tests confirmed that he had the appropriate blood levels of the pill?s two drugs ? tenofovir and emtricitabine ? to offer the nearly 99% protection it offers from the virus when taken daily.

The patient?s long-term partner is HIV-positive but on treatment, with an undetectable viral load in his body. On two occasions and with two separate people, however, the couple had condomless sex with a third person.

Grossman found that the patient?s strain of HIV was resistant to both of the drugs in Truvada, as well as all of the other drugs in its class, which work by blocking one of the enzymes needed by the virus to reproduce. The new strain did not match his partner?s, meaning that the multi-drug-resistant virus must have been transmitted during one of the two sexual encounters.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/azeenghorayshi/second-case-prep-failure?utm_term=.gf8MaO7w9&bftw=lgbt#.asG1Nr4qz

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Title: Re: People actually think you pop a PrEP mess and you're good now.
Post by: FlowerBomb on October 19, 2016, 09:17:54 PM
Ch
Title: Re: People actually think you pop a PrEP mess and you're good now.
Post by: Zankou. on October 19, 2016, 09:19:03 PM
Smh
Title: Re: People actually think you pop a PrEP mess and you're good now.
Post by: Nine on October 19, 2016, 09:19:06 PM
the girls are gonna learn

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Title: Re: People actually think you pop a PrEP mess and you're good now.
Post by: Cuban0 on October 19, 2016, 09:20:53 PM
Quote from: Nice Stereo. on October 19, 2016, 09:19:03 PM
Smh
Title: Re: People actually think you pop a PrEP mess and you're good now.
Post by: D.I.E.G.O. on October 19, 2016, 09:23:32 PM
This is also the group with the fasting-growing rates of STIs. SMFH Wrap it up!!!
Title: Re: People actually think you pop a PrEP mess and you're good now.
Post by: GRAND on October 19, 2016, 09:24:49 PM
well people think pulling out prevents pregnancy and dieseases so, im not fcking surprised cxxxx
Title: Re: People actually think you pop a PrEP mess and you're good now.
Post by: GLOCK on October 19, 2016, 09:25:07 PM
b

Why would they be having unprotected sex with another person

Clowns
Title: Re: People actually think you pop a PrEP mess and you're good now.
Post by: Buy The Stars✨ on October 19, 2016, 09:26:14 PM
Quote from: BOOCHIE MANE on October 19, 2016, 09:25:07 PM
b

Why would they be having unprotected sex with another person

Clowns

especially someone who may NOT be on prep? geez
Title: Re: People actually think you pop a PrEP mess and you're good now.
Post by: Zankou. on October 19, 2016, 09:26:49 PM
The fact that these people think they can pop this pill and be completely immune to any STI is disgusting
Title: Re: People actually think you pop a PrEP mess and you're good now.
Post by: Zankou. on October 19, 2016, 09:28:15 PM
Quote from: TEXASbama on October 19, 2016, 09:26:14 PM
Quote from: BOOCHIE MANE on October 19, 2016, 09:25:07 PM
b

Why would they be having unprotected sex with another person

Clowns

especially someone who may NOT be on prep? geez

Doesn't matter if they are. Stop fckin strangers raw!

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Title: Re: People actually think you pop a PrEP mess and you're good now.
Post by: Opposites Attract. on October 19, 2016, 09:30:18 PM
I'm fucking convinced it's HIV in pRep.
Title: Re: People actually think you pop a PrEP mess and you're good now.
Post by: BAPHOMET. on October 19, 2016, 09:30:37 PM
Quote from: TEXASbama on October 19, 2016, 09:26:14 PM
Quote from: BOOCHIE MANE on October 19, 2016, 09:25:07 PM
b

Why would they be having unprotected sex with another person

Clowns

especially someone who may NOT be on prep? geez

:everythingok: it doesnt matter if they are or arent
Title: Re: People actually think you pop a PrEP mess and you're good now.
Post by: Harlem on October 19, 2016, 09:31:09 PM
Ppl are fuckin DUMB!!! Yoo there are BARESKIN condoms, ULTRA THIN!!! like my nigga, there's options for these thirsty niggaz tryna pipe raw
Title: Re: People actually think you pop a PrEP mess and you're good now.
Post by: GRAND on October 19, 2016, 09:31:21 PM
Quote from: BOOCHIE MANE on October 19, 2016, 09:25:07 PM
b

Why would they be having unprotected sex with another person

Clowns
j

yeah

thats what i said as you SLID in me that one drunken night

:overit:
Title: Re: People actually think you pop a PrEP mess and you're good now.
Post by: GLOCK on October 19, 2016, 09:34:30 PM
Quote from: GRAND SUPREME on October 19, 2016, 09:31:21 PM
Quote from: BOOCHIE MANE on October 19, 2016, 09:25:07 PM
b

Why would they be having unprotected sex with another person

Clowns
j

yeah

thats what i said as you SLID in me that one drunken night

:overit:
!
The way ur hole was so used, abused and bruised..
I should've known some MESS would follow :aided:
Title: Re: People actually think you pop a PrEP mess and you're good now.
Post by: GLOCK on October 19, 2016, 09:34:50 PM
*:twins:
Title: Re: People actually think you pop a PrEP mess and you're good now.
Post by: GLOCK on October 19, 2016, 09:35:02 PM
Fuck *:overit:
Title: Re: People actually think you pop a PrEP mess and you're good now.
Post by: FAMÈ on October 19, 2016, 09:39:54 PM
Kskckdjdkdkzkzjzhzhxgxuu

This title has me shaking
Title: Re: People actually think you pop a PrEP mess and you're good now.
Post by: GRAND on October 19, 2016, 09:41:00 PM
Quote from: BOOCHIE MANE on October 19, 2016, 09:34:30 PM
Quote from: GRAND SUPREME on October 19, 2016, 09:31:21 PM
Quote from: BOOCHIE MANE on October 19, 2016, 09:25:07 PM
b

Why would they be having unprotected sex with another person

Clowns
j

yeah

thats what i said as you SLID in me that one drunken night

:overit:
!
The way ur hole was so used, abused and bruised..
I should've known some MESS would follow :aided:
nmdsnDSNSDNDNSDMSDNM

the first time i had anal, the guy thought i was lying cause 'it was so easy'

true story

:bvy: :gorlonfire:
Title: Re: People actually think you pop a PrEP mess and you're good now.
Post by: GRAND on October 19, 2016, 09:41:24 PM
Quote from: BOOCHIE MANE on October 19, 2016, 09:34:50 PM
*:twins:
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Title: Re: People actually think you pop a PrEP mess and you're good now.
Post by: Opposites Attract. on October 19, 2016, 09:42:51 PM
But men really do like nutting in people tho. I can't understand the obsession or how is it different from nutting inside someone with a condom on
Title: Re: People actually think you pop a PrEP mess and you're good now.
Post by: GRAND on October 19, 2016, 09:44:00 PM
Quote from: ₥₥₥. on October 19, 2016, 09:42:51 PM
But men really do like nutting in people tho. I can't understand the obsession or how is it different from nutting inside someone with a condom on
ownership.
Title: Re: People actually think you pop a PrEP mess and you're good now.
Post by: wizzy on October 19, 2016, 09:49:17 PM
 :melmel:
Title: Re: People actually think you pop a PrEP mess and you're good now.
Post by: wizzy on October 19, 2016, 09:51:15 PM
Quote from: ₥₥₥. on October 19, 2016, 09:42:51 PM
But men really do like nutting in people tho. I can't understand the obsession or how is it different from nutting inside someone with a condom on
cant see it


so I've heard
Title: Re: People actually think you pop a PrEP mess and you're good now.
Post by: MAY on October 19, 2016, 09:51:44 PM
Quote from: GRAND SUPREME on October 19, 2016, 09:41:00 PM
Quote from: BOOCHIE MANE on October 19, 2016, 09:34:30 PM
Quote from: GRAND SUPREME on October 19, 2016, 09:31:21 PM
Quote from: BOOCHIE MANE on October 19, 2016, 09:25:07 PM
b

Why would they be having unprotected sex with another person

Clowns
j

yeah

thats what i said as you SLID in me that one drunken night

:overit:
!
The way ur hole was so used, abused and bruised..
I should've known some MESS would follow :aided:
nmdsnDSNSDNDNSDMSDNM

the first time i had anal, the guy thought i was lying cause 'it was so easy'

true story

:bvy: :gorlonfire:

Ghgvbb

Loose booty fag
Title: Re: People actually think you pop a PrEP mess and you're good now.
Post by: wizzy on October 19, 2016, 09:52:23 PM
so glad I STRAP up!
:feelinmyself:
Title: Re: People actually think you pop a PrEP mess and you're good now.
Post by: Kurama on October 19, 2016, 09:52:28 PM
QuoteGrossman found that the patient?s strain of HIV was resistant to both of the drugs in Truvada, as well as all of the other drugs in its class, which work by blocking one of the enzymes needed by the virus to reproduce. The new strain did not match his partner?s, meaning that the multi-drug-resistant virus must have been transmitted during one of the two sexual encounters.

Which is why its important to get educated on sexual health and people you're sleeping with. I wish they didn't market PrEP they way that they did. Folks really got even wilder.
Title: Re: People actually think you pop a PrEP mess and you're good now.
Post by: GRAND on October 19, 2016, 09:54:02 PM
cxxxxxxxxxxx

:gorlonfire:
Title: Re: People actually think you pop a PrEP mess and you're good now.
Post by: yummy on October 19, 2016, 09:55:09 PM
:mmyulost:
Title: Re: People actually think you pop a PrEP mess and you're good now.
Post by: wizzy on October 19, 2016, 09:57:37 PM
ccd

but srsly I feel so bad for him
:stressed:
Title: Re: People actually think you pop a PrEP mess and you're good now.
Post by: BetterAngels on October 19, 2016, 10:01:41 PM
PrEP was never marketed as 100% effective, but it is better than doing nothing at all.
Title: Re: People actually think you pop a PrEP mess and you're good now.
Post by: FlowerBomb on October 20, 2016, 07:29:45 AM
Quote from: Kurama on October 19, 2016, 09:52:28 PM
QuoteGrossman found that the patient?s strain of HIV was resistant to both of the drugs in Truvada, as well as all of the other drugs in its class, which work by blocking one of the enzymes needed by the virus to reproduce. The new strain did not match his partner?s, meaning that the multi-drug-resistant virus must have been transmitted during one of the two sexual encounters.

Which is why its important to get educated on sexual health and people you're sleeping with. I wish they didn't market PrEP they way that they did. Folks really got even wilder.
!!!!!
I'm seeing people coming in now saying they haven't used a condom with anyone in the last 6 months
This should be a damn public health warning  :dead:
Title: Re: People actually think you pop a PrEP mess and you're good now.
Post by: Freemala Harris on October 20, 2016, 07:43:33 AM
welp
Title: Re: People actually think you pop a PrEP mess and you're good now.
Post by: LOONA. on October 20, 2016, 07:49:50 AM
Poor that       
Title: Re: People actually think you pop a PrEP mess and you're good now.
Post by: #Mu7 on October 20, 2016, 10:49:41 AM
i could give a whole thesis statement on this. but what i will say in my professional capacity is that it is situations like this that made me not support the promotion of prep in the first place. hiv resistance to drugs is very well and you have no idea what it is like to be in a clinic and d.c. and have a non-compliant patient who has to be switched from regimen to regimen because they refuse to comply. it creates these super bugs and if the conditions are perfect and that person goes out to sleep with a person on truvada and their load is high enough YOU will get HIV.

but its just my preference, when patient ask me about it. i always say and share that. even though the infectious disease physician and pharamacist will have you believe otherwise.
:uhh:
Title: Re: People actually think you pop a PrEP mess and you're good now.
Post by: #Mu7 on October 20, 2016, 10:51:35 AM
Quote from: Mu on October 20, 2016, 10:49:41 AM
i could give a whole thesis statement on this. but what i will say in my professional capacity is that it is situations like this that made me not support the promotion of prep in the first place. hiv resistance to drugs is very real and you have no idea what it is like to be in a clinic and d.c. and have a non-compliant patient who has to be switched from regimen to regimen because they refuse to comply. it creates these super bugs and if the conditions are perfect and that person goes out to sleep with a person on truvada and their load is high enough YOU will get HIV.

but its just my preference, when patient ask me about it. i always say and share that. even though the infectious disease physician and pharamacist will have you believe otherwise.
:uhh:
Title: Re: People actually think you pop a PrEP mess and you're good now.
Post by: CHOKE on October 20, 2016, 10:54:45 AM
oh, on the pill. I'm good


Not quite faggot
:justabit:

Title: Re: People actually think you pop a PrEP mess and you're good now.
Post by: #Mu7 on October 20, 2016, 10:57:38 AM
is thalia still here. i miss her, i know she was also a physician student. would love to hear her opinion.
Title: Re: People actually think you pop a PrEP mess and you're good now.
Post by: FRANCE on October 20, 2016, 11:13:16 AM
But doesnt Prep only reduces the risk of being infected with HIV? Correct me if Im wrong but are the gorls not concerned about all the other STDs?
Title: Re: People actually think you pop a PrEP mess and you're good now.
Post by: Zankou. on October 20, 2016, 11:18:45 AM
Quote from: Francois Lite on October 20, 2016, 11:13:16 AM
But doesnt Prep only reduces the risk of being infected with HIV? Correct me if Im wrong but are the gorls not concerned about all the other STDs?

nope, they sure aren't

and apparently STDs rates are on the rise as well.. wonder why
Title: Re: People actually think you pop a PrEP mess and you're good now.
Post by: #Mu7 on October 20, 2016, 11:21:13 AM
They don't and even hiv + patients will come in with sites. It's like didn't you learn from the diagnosis. Part of it is that a person who is complaint and controlled will live a regular life for the most part with meds. I think it just makes ppl a little nonchalant
Title: Re: People actually think you pop a PrEP mess and you're good now.
Post by: SouravMay on October 20, 2016, 02:13:39 PM
Prep seems expensive and pointless. What does it do, that a condom does not? That's an honest question, I'm trying to learn...
Title: Re: People actually think you pop a PrEP mess and you're good now.
Post by: KING BENTLEY. on October 20, 2016, 02:17:29 PM
There's something devious about the roll-out of PrEP :dead:

Just a money maker
I think it's just hardened sugar TBH

When they finally decide to come off the cure, I'll clap
Title: Re: People actually think you pop a PrEP mess and you're good now.
Post by: FRANCE on October 20, 2016, 02:18:24 PM
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on October 20, 2016, 02:13:39 PM
Prep seems expensive and pointless. What does it do, that a condom does not? That's an honest question, in trying to learn...

And a condom does so much more. HIV is not the only incurable STD. Maybe if men could get pregnant, they'd be smarter. But then again, abortion rates would prob go up. U know what...its a hopeless case.