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Title: BBC Series: "Black is The New Black" all 4 parts
Post by: FlowerBomb on November 16, 2016, 07:36:54 AM
Will Britain ever have a black Prime Minister?


Covers education, stereotypes, employment and heritage, it's quite interesting.


"Black is the new Black"
Episode 1


Episode 2


Episode 3


Episode 4
Title: Re: BBC Documentary "Will Britain Ever Have a Black Prime Minister"
Post by: GLOCK on November 16, 2016, 07:37:25 AM
When does the one about black excellence start?
Title: Re: BBC Documentary "Will Britain Ever Have a Black Prime Minister"
Post by: FlowerBomb on November 16, 2016, 07:38:59 AM
Quote from: glock on November 16, 2016, 07:37:25 AM
When does the one about black excellence start?

Episode 1


Episode 2
Title: Re: BBC Documentary "Will Britain Ever Have a Black Prime Minister"
Post by: GLOCK on November 16, 2016, 07:39:50 AM
Quote from: Baeomi on November 16, 2016, 07:38:59 AM
Quote from: glock on November 16, 2016, 07:37:25 AM
When does the one about black excellence start?

ack! Thank u
Title: Re: BBC Documentary "Will Britain Ever Have a Black Prime Minister?"
Post by: Gilgamesh. on November 16, 2016, 07:44:06 AM
Thanks for posting. I'm gonna watch all the shows they've been running this week over the weekend.
Title: Re: BBC Documentary "Will Britain Ever Have a Black Prime Minister?"
Post by: GRAND on November 16, 2016, 07:44:09 AM
What percentage of blacks live there
Title: Re: BBC Documentary "Will Britain Ever Have a Black Prime Minister?"
Post by: FlowerBomb on November 16, 2016, 07:47:40 AM
Quote from: GRAND SUPREME MARSHALL on November 16, 2016, 07:44:09 AM
What percentage of blacks live there
the last census was in 2011 and it had us at 1,148,738, which is 2% of the population
Title: Re: BBC "Will Britain Ever Have a Black Prime Minister?" & "Black is The New Black"
Post by: FlowerBomb on November 16, 2016, 07:49:28 AM
Chuka Umuna had a GREAT chance, and will probably be the only one to come close, but he doesn't even want to be leader of the labour party, which is disappointing.

(http://voxpoliticalonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/150512umunnablue.jpg)
Title: Re: BBC "Will Britain Ever Have a Black Prime Minister?" & "Black is The New Black"
Post by: SouravMay on November 16, 2016, 08:42:13 AM
Don't know how I feel about this docu. It comes off a bit defensive tbh.

But I get it also, given the history.
Title: Re: BBC "Will Britain Ever Have a Black Prime Minister?" & "Black is The New Black"
Post by: FlowerBomb on November 16, 2016, 08:44:05 AM
what's defensive about it?
Title: Re: BBC "Will Britain Ever Have a Black Prime Minister?" & "Black is The New Black"
Post by: SouravMay on November 16, 2016, 08:46:24 AM
Quote from: Baeomi on November 16, 2016, 08:44:05 AM
what's defensive about it?

the guy in the preview saying everybody wants black people's physique. I mean it is true
:feelinmyself:


But really it is generalizing and in an ideal world, not worthy of a mention. Also not all blacks are skrong West Africans, there are also more petite East Africans.

But whatever lemme watch and enjoy.
:indiaarie:
Title: Re: BBC "Will Britain Ever Have a Black Prime Minister?" & "Black is The New Black"
Post by: FlowerBomb on November 16, 2016, 08:48:33 AM
Quote from: شيطان on November 16, 2016, 08:46:24 AM
Quote from: Baeomi on November 16, 2016, 08:44:05 AM
what's defensive about it?

the guy in the preview saying everybody wants black people's physique. I mean it is true
:feelinmyself:


But really it is generalizing and in an ideal world, not worthy of a mention. Also not all blacks are skrong West Africans, there are also more petite East Africans.

But whatever lemme watch and enjoy.
:indiaarie:
so you didn't watch?
:udontlookok:
Title: Re: BBC "Will Britain Ever Have a Black Prime Minister?" & "Black is The New Black"
Post by: SouravMay on November 16, 2016, 08:50:53 AM
I had watched the first minute and said it came off defensive.

:hmph:


These DEEP ass voices by these women.
:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
Title: Re: BBC "Will Britain Ever Have a Black Prime Minister?" & "Black is The New Black"
Post by: Kurama on November 16, 2016, 09:15:03 AM
Thank u!
Title: Re: BBC "Will Britain Ever Have a Black Prime Minister?" & "Black is The New Black"
Post by: SouravMay on November 16, 2016, 09:15:24 AM
love it now. rly insightful
Title: Re: BBC "Will Britain Ever Have a Black Prime Minister?" & "Black is The New Black"
Post by: Real on November 16, 2016, 09:20:35 AM
:dead:
Title: Re: BBC "Will Britain Ever Have a Black Prime Minister?" & "Black is The New Black"
Post by: FlowerBomb on November 16, 2016, 09:22:47 AM
(https://d12edgf4lwbh8j.cloudfront.net/photo/image/o_on_bway.gif)
Title: Re: BBC "Will Britain Ever Have a Black Prime Minister?" & "Black is The New Black"
Post by: SouravMay on November 16, 2016, 09:29:25 AM
OOOOF part two is getting REAL

:stressed: :stressed:
Title: Re: BBC "Will Britain Ever Have a Black Prime Minister?" & "Black is The New Black"
Post by: FlowerBomb on November 16, 2016, 09:30:32 AM
Quote from: شيطان on November 16, 2016, 09:29:25 AM
OOOOF part two is getting REAL

:stressed: :stressed:
gina yashre (the lesbian comedian) is so honest :dead:
Title: Re: BBC "Will Britain Ever Have a Black Prime Minister?" & "Black is The New Black"
Post by: SouravMay on November 16, 2016, 09:33:52 AM
I always felt like this about Halle overrated self.

:stressed:
Title: Re: BBC "Will Britain Ever Have a Black Prime Minister?" & "Black is The New Black"
Post by: SouravMay on November 16, 2016, 09:35:11 AM
tinie tempah is so sessy
:heyddy:
Title: Re: BBC "Will Britain Ever Have a Black Prime Minister?" & "Black is The New Black"
Post by: Kurama on November 16, 2016, 10:18:19 AM
I love that they're talking about their culture and intelligence before they came to the UK to find that most of the people there lacked these things.
Title: Re: BBC "Will Britain Ever Have a Black Prime Minister?" & "Black is The New Black"
Post by: FlowerBomb on November 16, 2016, 10:24:54 AM
Quote from: Kurama on November 16, 2016, 10:18:19 AM
I love that they're talking about their culture and intelligence before they came to the UK to find that most of the people there lacked these things.
someone left this in the comments and you came to mind

QuoteGreat documentary but I think it's the last thing the black community should be worried about.  Top of the list should be the high levels of mental illness and how psychiatry is used to silence and shun them.  There is no medical test to prove mental illness so its a label being used to control the masses.  A historical example would be when psychiatrists use to label black slaves with "Drapetomania" because they wanted to flee captivity in the 19th century.  Today if you can't handle the stress of being exploited by a company, or can't handle being bullied at school or numerous other social problems then you are labelled with an illness, but its all done in the name of social control.  This applies not only to black people but anyone who doesn't conform.  I've done some video's explaining why psychiatry is a fraud for anyone interested and so have many other people.
Title: Re: BBC "Will Britain Ever Have a Black Prime Minister?" & "Black is The New Black"
Post by: Kurama on November 16, 2016, 10:49:05 AM
Quote from: Baeomi on November 16, 2016, 10:24:54 AM
Quote from: Kurama on November 16, 2016, 10:18:19 AM
I love that they're talking about their culture and intelligence before they came to the UK to find that most of the people there lacked these things.
someone left this in the comments and you came to mind

QuoteGreat documentary but I think it's the last thing the black community should be worried about.  Top of the list should be the high levels of mental illness and how psychiatry is used to silence and shun them.  There is no medical test to prove mental illness so its a label being used to control the masses.  A historical example would be when psychiatrists use to label black slaves with "Drapetomania" because they wanted to flee captivity in the 19th century.  Today if you can't handle the stress of being exploited by a company, or can't handle being bullied at school or numerous other social problems then you are labelled with an illness, but its all done in the name of social control.  This applies not only to black people but anyone who doesn't conform.  I've done some video's explaining why psychiatry is a fraud for anyone interested and so have many other people.

Oh wow. Im kinda conflicted because historically and even during contemporary times mental health has definitely exploited people of color. From pervasive misdiagnoses, lack of cultural competence, pathologizing normal behavior, and committing PoC to institutions without their consent because of these things. I also think the nature of healthcare and capitalism fuels how these factors intersect to create an even more pernicious system. As a mental health worker, you can't get paid for much unless you diagnose someone; who has "the most problems"? People of color. Which is why I took a break from pursuing a career in psychology.

On the flip side though, PoC definitely have some mental health challenges because all of the things burdening them. Mental health is a stigmatized thing, especially in our community, so I wouldn't dismiss it entirely. A lot of us really could benefit from seeing a wellness focused clinician. I am currently trying to find one shid.

I will say though, people should be more prone to seeing a counselor rather than a psychologist/psychiatrist. They're trained to tell you about your problems and diagnose you. So I agree with that point too. 
Title: Re: BBC "Will Britain Ever Have a Black Prime Minister?" & "Black is The New Black"
Post by: Kurama on November 16, 2016, 10:51:38 AM
The 1st ep was really good
Title: Re: BBC "Will Britain Ever Have a Black Prime Minister?" & "Black is The New Black"
Post by: FlowerBomb on November 16, 2016, 11:20:45 AM
The university stats were crazy
Title: Re: BBC Documentary "Will Britain Ever Have a Black Prime Minister?"
Post by: 'ology on November 16, 2016, 11:44:48 AM
Quote from: Baeomi on November 16, 2016, 07:47:40 AM
Quote from: GRAND SUPREME MARSHALL on November 16, 2016, 07:44:09 AM
What percentage of blacks live there
the last census was in 2011 and it had us at 1,148,738, which is 2% of the population

Wow I thought it was a larger percentage of block people in the U.K.
Title: Re: BBC "Will Britain Ever Have a Black Prime Minister?" & "Black is The New Black"
Post by: 'ology on November 16, 2016, 11:46:13 AM
 :plzstop:
Quote from: Baeomi on November 16, 2016, 09:22:47 AM
(https://d12edgf4lwbh8j.cloudfront.net/photo/image/o_on_bway.gif)
:plzstop:
Title: Re: BBC "Will Britain Ever Have a Black Prime Minister?" & "Black is The New Black"
Post by: Kurama on November 16, 2016, 11:49:20 AM
Knife crimes big over there?

Better than guns at least.
Title: Re: BBC "Will Britain Ever Have a Black Prime Minister?" & "Black is The New Black"
Post by: Kurama on November 16, 2016, 11:53:34 AM
This ballet dancer  :ohwow:
Title: Re: BBC "Will Britain Ever Have a Black Prime Minister?" & "Black is The New Black"
Post by: SouravMay on November 16, 2016, 11:54:06 AM
London is less than 50 percent white though. And Birmingham is super black too. Also they distinguish between black and mixed I think in the UK.
Title: Re: BBC "Will Britain Ever Have a Black Prime Minister?" & "Black is The New Black"
Post by: FlowerBomb on November 16, 2016, 02:58:23 PM
Quote from: شيطان on November 16, 2016, 11:54:06 AM
London is less than 50 percent white though. And Birmingham is super black too. Also they distinguish between black and mixed I think in the UK.
according to the last census it's 60% white 19% Asian and 13% baxk, 4% mixed and the rest are other
We distinguish between black and mixed here
Title: Re: BBC "Will Britain Ever Have a Black Prime Minister?" & "Black is The New Black"
Post by: FlowerBomb on November 16, 2016, 02:59:03 PM
Quote from: Kurama on November 16, 2016, 11:49:20 AM
Knife crimes big over there?

Better than guns at least.
yh
We had an epidemic of knife crime
Title: Re: BBC "Will Britain Ever Have a Black Prime Minister?" & "Black is The New Black"
Post by: FlowerBomb on November 16, 2016, 03:14:59 PM
And Birmingham is 8% black and almost 60% white
Title: Re: BBC "Will Britain Ever Have a Black Prime Minister?" & "Black is The New Black"
Post by: FlowerBomb on November 16, 2016, 04:11:47 PM
Quote from: Tahj Zezo. on November 16, 2016, 04:10:58 PM
This was such a GOOD watch.

I'm sorry fo being negative, but I hate Lenny Henry. I wish he would stop cooning. :uhh:
!! if he puts on that damn accent on one more time...
Title: Re: BBC "Will Britain Ever Have a Black Prime Minister?" & "Black is The New Black"
Post by: FlowerBomb on November 16, 2016, 05:47:35 PM
Quote from: Kurama on November 16, 2016, 10:49:05 AM
Quote from: Baeomi on November 16, 2016, 10:24:54 AM
Quote from: Kurama on November 16, 2016, 10:18:19 AM
I love that they're talking about their culture and intelligence before they came to the UK to find that most of the people there lacked these things.
someone left this in the comments and you came to mind

QuoteGreat documentary but I think it's the last thing the black community should be worried about.  Top of the list should be the high levels of mental illness and how psychiatry is used to silence and shun them.  There is no medical test to prove mental illness so its a label being used to control the masses.  A historical example would be when psychiatrists use to label black slaves with "Drapetomania" because they wanted to flee captivity in the 19th century.  Today if you can't handle the stress of being exploited by a company, or can't handle being bullied at school or numerous other social problems then you are labelled with an illness, but its all done in the name of social control.  This applies not only to black people but anyone who doesn't conform.  I've done some video's explaining why psychiatry is a fraud for anyone interested and so have many other people.

Oh wow. Im kinda conflicted because historically and even during contemporary times mental health has definitely exploited people of color. From pervasive misdiagnoses, lack of cultural competence, pathologizing normal behavior, and committing PoC to institutions without their consent because of these things. I also think the nature of healthcare and capitalism fuels how these factors intersect to create an even more pernicious system. As a mental health worker, you can't get paid for much unless you diagnose someone; who has "the most problems"? People of color. Which is why I took a break from pursuing a career in psychology.

On the flip side though, PoC definitely have some mental health challenges because all of the things burdening them. Mental health is a stigmatized thing, especially in our community, so I wouldn't dismiss it entirely. A lot of us really could benefit from seeing a wellness focused clinician. I am currently trying to find one shid.

I will say though, people should be more prone to seeing a counselor rather than a psychologist/psychiatrist. They're trained to tell you about your problems and diagnose you. So I agree with that point too.
Never heard it like this before.
I do know in the U.K, black people, men in particular make up over 70% of the more serious mental health diagnoses. There was an article on it a few months back about mental health almost being non existent in the black community.
I guess people don;t want to use it as a crux, because it's seen as a sign of weakness, but at the same time if there's a REASON...
But at the same time, Mental Health diagnoses in the black community are very minimal.
Title: Re: BBC "Will Britain Ever Have a Black Prime Minister?" & "Black is The New Black"
Post by: FlowerBomb on November 17, 2016, 09:31:31 AM
Psrt 3
Title: Re: BBC "Will Britain Ever Have a Black Prime Minister?" & "Black is The New Black"
Post by: Gilgamesh. on November 20, 2016, 10:25:15 AM
watched part 1 & 2 this morning.

I could relate to so much that they covered, that whole thing about integrating with White British culture but maintaining Caribbean/Afro heritage is so real.
Title: Re: & "Black is The New Black" Part 3 Updated
Post by: FlowerBomb on November 21, 2016, 06:39:02 AM
Title: Re: BBC Series: "Black is The New Black" part 3 included
Post by: FlowerBomb on November 21, 2016, 09:10:28 AM
Charlie Casey Hayford is fine as fuck :uhh:
Title: Re: BBC Series: "Black is The New Black" part 3 included
Post by: Kurama on November 21, 2016, 10:03:13 AM
Brixton is a Black area?
Title: Re: BBC Series: "Black is The New Black" part 3 included
Post by: FlowerBomb on November 21, 2016, 10:05:16 AM
Quote from: Kurama on November 21, 2016, 10:03:13 AM
Brixton is a Black area?
very
I work there
it's nice though
Title: Re: BBC Series: "Black is The New Black" part 3 included
Post by: Kurama on November 21, 2016, 10:16:26 AM
Les looks exactly like an older version of my ex :dead:
Title: Re: BBC Series: "Black is The New Black" part 3 included
Post by: FlowerBomb on November 21, 2016, 12:48:45 PM
Quote from: Kurama on November 21, 2016, 10:16:26 AM
Les looks exactly like an older version of my ex :dead:
:ohwow:
Title: Re: BBC Series: "Black is The New Black" all 4 parts
Post by: FlowerBomb on November 28, 2016, 06:53:21 PM
part 4 in op