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this is really eye opening
i mean i knew they held some slaves but i didnt know they thought they were better than us..but its kinda telling ... everyone wants to think they are better than us to sorta align themselves with whites...
oddly enough the tribe i come from is mentioned here..
glad i never embraced this MESS
:omgwatshappening:
Didn't know they were paid to catch black slaves.
Fag r u pissed my best friend's mother's god sister was Indian?
bnmmmmmmmmmmmmbf
not chickasaw bein tha FIRS mess.
thts my fam' mess!....well shit
o well
lols!
Quote from: stillpretti. on March 05, 2017, 04:21:33 PM
Not all Indians held slaves. And if its your heritage you have a right to claim it.
what if they didn't want you claiming them though?
Quote from: Bougi?. on March 05, 2017, 04:21:57 PM
Fag r u pissed my best friend's mother's god sister was Indian?
CXVZ
Im jealous faggot
Quote from: stillpretti. on March 05, 2017, 04:22:51 PM
While you're posting about the relationship between Indians and slaves, don't forget to mention the tribes that helped slaves escape their masters.
thats true
but i feel that a lot of girls know this
i dont think a lot of people know that a lot of them aided in oppressing us
This title wtf
Quote from: stillpretti. on March 05, 2017, 04:25:52 PM
Quote from: GLIZZY on March 05, 2017, 04:23:33 PM
Quote from: stillpretti. on March 05, 2017, 04:22:51 PM
While you're posting about the relationship between Indians and slaves, don't forget to mention the tribes that helped slaves escape their masters.
thats true
but i feel that a lot of girls know this
i dont think a lot of people know that a lot of them aided in oppressing us
And Africans sold us into the hands of white men
So if we really want to sit around and play a blame game we can do it all night.
But at the end of the day if you're not white you're part of an oppressed group
Many Indians conformed to a white man's mentality because they wanted to assimilate.
Oh yes im aware of this!!!
but tbh the african trade mess was apart of their culture..
im sure they didnt know that what they were doing was gonna oppress an entire race
wait.. afro. i hope u dont think i made this to MESS with u..
do u?
dont listen to these girls.. i was just having a heated discussion with the same argument u have in here with my friends and one of them sent me these links to prove that point..
:uhh:
afro this wasnt about u in the least bit :uhh:
i swear to GOD
u know how direct i am.. WTF
:uhh:
:ummwhat:
this info is true Tanna and you really have to watch Indians tbh
that whole Indian Holocaust story is bad, but a bit exaggerated and fabricated imo
:dead: @ them getting PAID and the ppl they help enslave still can't get reparations
you gotta be viligante girls! all I'll say
Quote from: Cartier on March 05, 2017, 04:24:18 PM
This title wtf
SHDJKIJKJKJKJKJKJKJKJKJKJK
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Glock is pure mess
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Quote from: Cartier on March 05, 2017, 04:24:18 PM
This title wtf
crying pocahontas tears over here rn tbh
Quote from: GLIZZY on March 05, 2017, 04:28:55 PM
:uhh:
afro this wasnt about u in the least bit :uhh:
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afro wtf.. look
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Quote from: stillpretti. on March 05, 2017, 04:29:41 PM
Quote from: GLIZZY on March 05, 2017, 04:28:55 PM
:uhh:
afro this wasnt about u in the least bit :uhh:
Sorry luv.
U know I gotta be on my toes with u gorls.
:blush:
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WTF i told u our mess was DONE.. i aint got nothing but love for u
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmej
'fro has been so jumpy ever since tht thread i mades
calm downs hun
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Quote from: stillpretti. on March 05, 2017, 04:43:00 PM
Quote from: GLIZZY on March 05, 2017, 04:37:21 PM
afro wtf.. look
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Also, there were Free People of Color who owned slaves as well.
If you really wanna dip into something edgy in history get into that.
ch..
this all is mind rattling tbh
all of this conditioning and its even wilder that the same form of conditioning is sorta the reason why intraracial crime is so prevalent in our communities now
us keeping US down..
we have to find a way to break the cycle..though its hard because its been beat in us.. both from our black heritage and native american MESS..
:-(
why would you post an article about blacks owning slaves tho? :plzstop:
Quote from: ANIMMAI on March 05, 2017, 04:40:20 PM
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I'm always amazed at the message this disney film carried :plzstop:
http://www.npr.org/2011/09/19/140594124/u-s-government-opposes-cherokee-nations-decision
QuoteEmancipation And The Dawes Rolls
In 1866, the Cherokee Nation signed a treaty with the federal government that abolished slavery, except as a means of punishment, and granted former African-American slaves and their descendants "all the rights of native Cherokees." Blacks often had more rights on Indian reservations and territories in the South than they did in the Jim Crow South. Many of these former slaves were later listed by the U.S. government as "Freedmen" on an index known as the Dawes Rolls.
The Dawes Rolls lists the names of Indian citizens who applied for enrollment on the rolls of various tribes in Oklahoma around the turn of the 20th century. Today, the Cherokee Nation requires that a citizen have an Indian ancestor who appears on the Dawes Rolls. The document not only had categories for Indians who were mixed with white, but also categories for whites who married into the tribe, and blacks (Freedmen). The index was finalized on March 4, 1907, though updates would be made later.
let's get into the TEA ...
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QuoteBlack Freedmen, who are descended from the slaves of Cherokee Indians, protest their expulsion on Sept. 2 outside a regional Bureau of Indian Affairs office in Muskogee, Okla. Marilyn Vann, in pink, is the president of the Descendants of Freedmen Association.
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QuoteThe Cherokee Nation's Supreme Court ruled in late August that the black Freedmen could be stripped of their citizenship because they can't prove they have Indian blood. The tribe first voted in favor of this effort in 2007. While turnout for Cherokee elections tends to be low, more than 75 percent of all voters were in favor of the move.
Cherokee leaders say it's not a matter of race, but a simple matter of narrowing the definition of Indian down to those people who can prove they have Indian blood.
"This is not a club; you can't just claim to be Cherokee and show up and be included," says Cara Cowan Watts, a vocal member of the Cherokees' tribal council.
It happened with Cheyenne Arapaho as well, and many other tribes in Oklahoma, my cousin doesn't get her just dues and she's of a black father and "full-blooded" Indian mother.
you gotta WATCH girls and not believe the sob storys that they recite to you
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Quote from: stillpretti. on March 05, 2017, 04:53:38 PM
Quote from: ORORO MUNROE-UDAKU on March 05, 2017, 04:51:10 PM
why would you post an article about blacks owning slaves tho? :plzstop:
We're discussing the oppressed being the "oppressors".
Relevance. Anything else Bent?
BINGO.
sadly nothing else in your response answered my original question.
what does blacks owning slaves have to do with a conversation about Indian's oppressing black slaves?
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Quote from: stillpretti. on March 05, 2017, 05:00:05 PM
And sadly, you're misinformed about Indians being "paid"...
Most reservations are in third world condition....
Loved learning about my great grandma Moriah but AA's have it BETTER in comparison.
Running around dressed up as Indians but I bet one day on a reservation, they'll realize its not some sexy Pocohontas story.
Sorry to say but this is some of the typical ignorance that's involved anytime Native American mess is discussed. Paid! Cheekbones! Tuition :ohwow: Hair!
:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
Appreciate my NA heritage but you won't find me trying on a headdress and mess.
Glad I didn't grow up on "the rez". The AA life is almost a privilege in comparison.
that's the second time you've repeated such a statement on here.
hopefully you haven't uttered it even once outside of this site. It's quite, and don't take offense twinzy, .... it's misguided (sorry I was tryna think of a nicer way to say it but couldn't :dead:)
Girls :calmdownsis:
Thank god my navajo brothers and sisters never took part in this.
Our culture is one of love and peace.
s
yea whatever... not serious or whatever you wanna believe ... cause I get a bit passionate about the struggle of my ppl and will check when needed ... if I'm cool with you or not, I speak up.
YOU can associate YOUR struggle with Squanto, based on whatever findings you found ... but don't try to get that foolishness over with me.
our babies were fed to alligators, don't ever try to advocate for that mess over OUR struggle.
I'm not tryna go off or take it there but you've said that once before and I let it go.
It's just infuriating when ppl who are CLEARLY black make ignorant statements like that. that's not YOUR struggle. get plugged into what will help YOUR culture, last time I checked YOU didn't grow up on a reservation and YOU don't face INDIAN struggles. So why say something so offensive.
and that's my final say on it, whether you offended, hurt or whatever. it's dumb. period.
sorry Tanna... I'm calming down now :dead:
Quote from: GLIZZY on March 05, 2017, 04:27:04 PM
Quote from: stillpretti. on March 05, 2017, 04:25:52 PM
Quote from: GLIZZY on March 05, 2017, 04:23:33 PM
Quote from: stillpretti. on March 05, 2017, 04:22:51 PM
While you're posting about the relationship between Indians and slaves, don't forget to mention the tribes that helped slaves escape their masters.
thats true
but i feel that a lot of girls know this
i dont think a lot of people know that a lot of them aided in oppressing us
And Africans sold us into the hands of white men
So if we really want to sit around and play a blame game we can do it all night.
But at the end of the day if you're not white you're part of an oppressed group
Many Indians conformed to a white man's mentality because they wanted to assimilate.
Oh yes im aware of this!!!
but tbh the african trade mess was apart of their culture..
im sure they didnt know that what they were doing was gonna oppress an entire race
depends which ones though
Like the Hasua tribe sold their rivals the Fulanis simply to get rid of the comp'
Almost every race has been enslaved through history.
None of it is cute. The main difference is that the aftermath of the slavery is still too strong in places.
Y'all don't even have it the worst in the US. Y'all want to get into some real fucking mess dig into Brazil.
European white men are just disgusting. Mainly the British, the Dutch, the Belgian, the French and the Portuguese.
Quote from: Saint on March 05, 2017, 05:16:41 PM
Quote from: GLIZZY on March 05, 2017, 04:27:04 PM
Quote from: stillpretti. on March 05, 2017, 04:25:52 PM
Quote from: GLIZZY on March 05, 2017, 04:23:33 PM
Quote from: stillpretti. on March 05, 2017, 04:22:51 PM
While you're posting about the relationship between Indians and slaves, don't forget to mention the tribes that helped slaves escape their masters.
thats true
but i feel that a lot of girls know this
i dont think a lot of people know that a lot of them aided in oppressing us
And Africans sold us into the hands of white men
So if we really want to sit around and play a blame game we can do it all night.
But at the end of the day if you're not white you're part of an oppressed group
Many Indians conformed to a white man's mentality because they wanted to assimilate.
Oh yes im aware of this!!!
but tbh the african trade mess was apart of their culture..
im sure they didnt know that what they were doing was gonna oppress an entire race
depends which ones though
Like the Hasua tribe sold their rivals the Fulanis simply to get rid of the comp'
Wow
Quote from: stillpretti. on March 05, 2017, 05:16:24 PM
nine..i thought u were blackfoot sis :udontlookok:
what's the difference
:omgwatshappening:
Quote from: Sleighing Steady on March 05, 2017, 05:17:36 PM
Y'all don't even have it the worst in the US. Y'all want to get into some real fucking mess dig into Brazil.
European white men are just disgusting. Mainly the British, the Dutch, the Belgian, the French and the Portuguese.
!!!!!!!
Did you know the Belgians royals are STILL sitting on over ?600 million worth of blood money from the Congo? :uhh:
The British are still sitting on over ?10 million worth of artefacts and treasures from their Indian and African colonial days
Quote from: Saint on March 05, 2017, 05:16:41 PM
Quote from: GLIZZY on March 05, 2017, 04:27:04 PM
Quote from: stillpretti. on March 05, 2017, 04:25:52 PM
Quote from: GLIZZY on March 05, 2017, 04:23:33 PM
Quote from: stillpretti. on March 05, 2017, 04:22:51 PM
While you're posting about the relationship between Indians and slaves, don't forget to mention the tribes that helped slaves escape their masters.
thats true
but i feel that a lot of girls know this
i dont think a lot of people know that a lot of them aided in oppressing us
And Africans sold us into the hands of white men
So if we really want to sit around and play a blame game we can do it all night.
But at the end of the day if you're not white you're part of an oppressed group
Many Indians conformed to a white man's mentality because they wanted to assimilate.
Oh yes im aware of this!!!
but tbh the african trade mess was apart of their culture..
im sure they didnt know that what they were doing was gonna oppress an entire race
depends which ones though
Like the Hasua tribe sold their rivals the Fulanis simply to get rid of the comp'
DVXV
wtf
well can Ma just sell Nicks :uhh:
Quote from: stillpretti. on March 05, 2017, 04:25:52 PM
Quote from: GLIZZY on March 05, 2017, 04:23:33 PM
Quote from: stillpretti. on March 05, 2017, 04:22:51 PM
While you're posting about the relationship between Indians and slaves, don't forget to mention the tribes that helped slaves escape their masters.
thats true
but i feel that a lot of girls know this
i dont think a lot of people know that a lot of them aided in oppressing us
And Africans sold us into the hands of white men
So if we really want to sit around and play a blame game we can do it all night.
But at the end of the day if you're not white you're part of an oppressed group
Many Indians conformed to a white man's mentality because they wanted to assimilate.
They were essentially brainwashed.
and were probably threatened
Quote from: stillpretti. on March 05, 2017, 05:27:35 PM
one thing, Bent.....only because it was so senseless to me.
QuoteYOU can associate YOUR struggle with Squanto, based on whatever findings you found ... but don't try to get that foolishness over with me.
I just said that as an AA I have never had an Indian experience and am grateful that I didn't.
I'm sorry but they live in third world conditions. I didn't have to grow up like that.
I am an African American of Native American descent. Not "Native American".
There's a difference and I am well aware of that. Never get it twisted because I don't. :udontlookok:
The day you catch me rocking a Native headdress, is when you may wanna pull me to the side and coach me a bit to remind me that I'm from Southside Queens, not the reservation. Otherwise, relax. I got this. :plzstop: :udontlookok:
it's goodie .. you know we get heated sometimes lolz
I said luv you, stern words don't always mean hate, especially on these types of topics
but I said that after you called me ignorant :dead: , so I am going to do more research on the Indian reservations, and of course I can learn and empathize with their phlight more.
we good?
:sistas: