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Title: Are politics affecting the music industry?
Post by: RAY7 on September 20, 2017, 02:19:10 PM
Is it just me or does it seem like White pop artists are slowly losing the impact they once had on the charts, while ppl of color are on the rise?
Like Katy flopped, Taylor is doing ok, but she was only #1 a couple weeks sandwiched between Despacito having the longest stay at #1 ever, and now Cardi another Hispanic/Black artist is about to dethrone her
and the male Adele Sam Smith probably isn't even gonna make top 3

and is it a coincidence that it's Hispanics (who Trump wants out of here especially Mexicans) that are the biggest competition right now?
Title: Re: Are politics affecting the music industry?
Post by: Onika on September 20, 2017, 02:23:11 PM
It's about damn time :dead: Seeing these mediocre crackers at the top of the charts all the time is so damn annoying
Title: Re: Are politics affecting the music industry?
Post by: 🦚 on September 20, 2017, 02:24:38 PM
TAYLOR was never going to be number one for 20 weeks. Most of her songs do a 2 week mess out.

Let see how her album does.

Katy has had several flop singles leading up to that album and the album is horrible.

Sam isn't Adele and has never had a US number 1 single. Let's see how the alberm does.

Let's see what pink does too. Even tho she's never been a huge album seller in the US outside of her sophomore
Title: Re: Are politics affecting the music industry?
Post by: Young on September 20, 2017, 02:25:07 PM
Going back to how it should be

Real music
Real talent
Real magic

I feel the 90s feel coming back tbh
Title: Re: Are politics affecting the music industry?
Post by: Gilgamesh. on September 20, 2017, 02:26:10 PM
It is kinda weird that all the Pop girls are flopping one after the other.
Title: Re: Are politics affecting the music industry?
Post by: BAPHOMET. on September 20, 2017, 02:26:22 PM
Quote from: Young on September 20, 2017, 02:25:07 PM
Going back to how it should be

Real music
Real talent
Real magic

I feel the 90s feel coming back tbh

b

I'd like to hope you dont believe the stuff you type.
Title: Re: Are politics affecting the music industry?
Post by: RAY7 on September 20, 2017, 02:27:26 PM
Quote from: Habesha KING 👑 on September 20, 2017, 02:23:11 PM
It's about damn time :dead: Seeing these mediocre crackers at the top of the charts all the time is so damn annoying
and I feel like the fact that a large number of their fans are probably republican Trump supporters is hurting them
Title: Re: Are politics affecting the music industry?
Post by: FlowerBomb on September 20, 2017, 02:28:11 PM
Quote from: AYR on September 20, 2017, 02:27:26 PM
Quote from: Habesha KING 👑 on September 20, 2017, 02:23:11 PM
It's about damn time :dead: Seeing these mediocre crackers at the top of the charts all the time is so damn annoying
and I feel like the fact that a large number of their fans are probably republican Trump supporters is hurting them
ggggggggggggggggggggg
:ummwhat:
Title: Re: Are politics affecting the music industry?
Post by: Kurama on September 20, 2017, 02:35:45 PM
I think it definitely can be a factor.

It also speaks to how some artists who relied on niche or gimmicky strategies cant really come up with a new thing.
Title: Re: Are politics affecting the music industry?
Post by: CHOKE on September 20, 2017, 02:44:04 PM
n

No

Taylor will do a 2 mill 1st week

There aren't that many BIG white artists releasing right now

Title: Re: Are politics affecting the music industry?
Post by: SouravMay on September 20, 2017, 02:45:43 PM
I read a lengthy article trying to argue exactly that.
Title: Re: Are politics affecting the music industry?
Post by: RAY7 on September 20, 2017, 03:01:51 PM
Like wasn't Katy a big Hilary supporter?
I know them conservative Kate Hudson fans were not feeling that
Title: Re: Are politics affecting the music industry?
Post by: CHOKE on September 20, 2017, 03:11:41 PM
Katy took herself out tbh

The image change, dyke haircut and political mess was her downfall


Title: Re: Are politics affecting the music industry?
Post by: 🦚 on September 20, 2017, 03:13:35 PM
Katy was flopping before her fake Hillary support.

Everything after dark horse flopped and prism didn't even sell that much.
Title: Re: Are politics affecting the music industry?
Post by: 🦚 on September 20, 2017, 03:14:17 PM
And this is the same 2017 where ed sheraan and Justin Bieber are in charge of the girls.
Title: Re: Are politics affecting the music industry?
Post by: Kaeli. on September 20, 2017, 03:14:26 PM
I'm pretty sure the reason blacks are slaying more these days is because of streaming.

They stream more and now it's harder for Labels and such to cherry pick/shove white artists down our throats.

We have the power :ohwow:
Title: Re: Are politics affecting the music industry?
Post by: Cartierline on September 20, 2017, 03:15:08 PM
Quote from: Cho-Ku on September 20, 2017, 03:11:41 PM
Katy took herself out tbh

The image change, dyke haircut and political mess was her downfall




I hate to agree with you but... yeah.

People use her for her cute, quirky and fun songs. Idk why she wanted to be fake woke so bad.
Title: Re: Are politics affecting the music industry?
Post by: Kaeli. on September 20, 2017, 03:15:25 PM
But let's not completely count out the cracks

JB and Ed Sheeran still have the two biggest hits of the year & Ed has the biggest selling Alber. (Until Taylor eclipses him week 1)
Title: Re: Are politics affecting the music industry?
Post by: 🦚 on September 20, 2017, 03:17:12 PM
Quote from: Kaeli. on September 20, 2017, 03:14:26 PM
I'm pretty sure the reason blacks are slaying more these days is because of streaming.

They stream more and now it's harder for Labels and such to cherry pick/shove white artists down our throats.

We have the power :ohwow:

Yeah. Rap songs dominate the streaming charts.
And pop songs are usually front loaded with lots of initial interest that dies down after 3 weeks. Where rap songs tend to build.
It also helps that streaming beats out airplay. So pop radio can't just block urban music out like they've been doing this whole decade.
Title: Re: Are politics affecting the music industry?
Post by: RAY7 on September 20, 2017, 03:22:07 PM
Didn't Justin get removed from Despacito after that racist parody he did?
Title: Re: Are politics affecting the music industry?
Post by: Lazarus on September 20, 2017, 03:56:25 PM
It'd be to see R&B dominate again.
Title: Re: Are politics affecting the music industry?
Post by: Pearls Khan on September 20, 2017, 04:10:17 PM
Quote from: Kaeli. on September 20, 2017, 03:14:26 PM
I'm pretty sure the reason blacks are slaying more these days is because of streaming.

They stream more and now it's harder for Labels and such to cherry pick/shove white artists down our throats.

We have the power :ohwow:

are u saying blacks don't pay for shit?
Title: Re: Are politics affecting the music industry?
Post by: Pearls Khan on September 20, 2017, 04:15:54 PM
Bttm line, I agree.
Title: Re: Are politics affecting the music industry?
Post by: Young on September 20, 2017, 04:16:14 PM
Quote from: Lazarus on September 20, 2017, 03:56:25 PM
It'd be to see R&B dominate again.

!!!

And I believe it will
Title: Re: Are politics affecting the music industry?
Post by: XXX. on September 20, 2017, 04:18:23 PM
It has nothing to do with politics.

A white woman has been #1 for the last 3 weeks.  Ed Sheeran was #1 for 11 weeks. Bieber was #1 for 16 weeks.

When the formula of how Billboard comprises the Hot 100 changes, it always shakes shit up. Pop AirPlay and iTunes ruled for a decade.  Without Pop airplay, you didn't stand a chance.

Now, streaming trumps everything in the new formula.  And it's showing more people are streaming hip hop than any other genre.  So, that's why Uzi, Future & Quavo are scoring Top 10s in their sleep.  And it's why Cardi will be #1 next week.  "Bodak Yellow" doesn't have Taylor's airplay, but she's killing her in streams.

Title: Re: Are politics affecting the music industry?
Post by: Kaeli. on September 20, 2017, 04:21:06 PM
Quote from: Pearls on September 20, 2017, 04:10:17 PM
Quote from: Kaeli. on September 20, 2017, 03:14:26 PM
I'm pretty sure the reason blacks are slaying more these days is because of streaming.

They stream more and now it's harder for Labels and such to cherry pick/shove white artists down our throats.

We have the power :ohwow:

are u saying blacks don't pay for shit?
yh
Title: Re: Are politics affecting the music industry?
Post by: XXX. on September 20, 2017, 04:22:06 PM
Also, I think what we're seeing is that Pop airplay and Payola fooled people into believing certain artists were popular.  Z100 putting your song into power rotation was more politics than it was a true reflection of what's hot.

Now, the people are deciding what charts.  And artists like Katy are exposed, because streams are proving no one is listening to that shit.

Radio & the label manipulation lost its power.  Plain and simple.
Title: Re: Are politics affecting the music industry?
Post by: Genesis on September 20, 2017, 04:42:55 PM
Quote from: BardiGang Sle on September 20, 2017, 03:17:12 PM
Quote from: Kaeli. on September 20, 2017, 03:14:26 PM
I'm pretty sure the reason blacks are slaying more these days is because of streaming.

They stream more and now it's harder for Labels and such to cherry pick/shove white artists down our throats.

We have the power :ohwow:

Yeah. Rap songs dominate the streaming charts.
And pop songs are usually front loaded with lots of initial interest that dies down after 3 weeks. Where rap songs tend to build.
It also helps that streaming beats out airplay. So pop radio can't just block urban music out like they've been doing this whole decade.
Thanks for this information.!
Title: Re: Are politics affecting the music industry?
Post by: Daughter of Inventor of Pillsbury Dough Crust on September 20, 2017, 05:13:12 PM
Quote from: u need clean? on September 20, 2017, 04:14:07 PM
Quote from: Pearls on September 20, 2017, 04:10:17 PM
Quote from: Kaeli. on September 20, 2017, 03:14:26 PM
I'm pretty sure the reason blacks are slaying more these days is because of streaming.

They stream more and now it's harder for Labels and such to cherry pick/shove white artists down our throats.

We have the power :ohwow:

are u saying blacks don't pay for shit?
have respect

correct term africa merican dont pay for shit
Title: Re: Are politics affecting the music industry?
Post by: Barbie Dangerous on September 20, 2017, 05:16:08 PM
Quote from: Cho-Ku on September 20, 2017, 03:11:41 PM
Katy took herself out tbh

The image change, dyke haircut and political mess was her downfall