I agree
Good points.
Not mad at her.
Legacy!
Girl just say you hate tocha and get it over with.
You had no problem releasing your 2 flop albums or attempt failed projects 1 with the Georgia prune and another with Tiny
Quote from: ???? on January 24, 2018, 11:23:28 PM
Good points.
Not mad at her.
!!!!
Def all valid points! Just tour, start new businesses and get bread...
She made an amazing point but that whole control freak thing turned me off. Like girl you haven?t made a good song since the early 00. Fly About was late and that song she wrote for her daughter was tragic.
I was coming in here ready to lash, but I definitely understand where she's coming from and agree.
Quote from: Harlem on January 24, 2018, 11:25:34 PM
Quote from: ???? on January 24, 2018, 11:23:28 PM
Good points.
Not mad at her.
!!!!
Def all valid points! Just tour, start new businesses and get bread...
:justabit:
so she's scared to flop basically
Quote from: Kaeli. on January 24, 2018, 11:26:20 PM
so she's scared to flop basically
she sounds like a business woman, imo
and she's making a decision based off that
the music industry is shitless
:dead:
Shes kinda full of it
the legacy will not be tarnished cause no one will count a new album as part of the legacy
but even if a new album is out of the question a 5 song ep mess could not hurt at all to add to the has been tour
and if they are doing new music as xscape anyway then you not being there wont prevent legacy ruining lmao
she ruined her own legacy by being seen on this show everyone now shows shes hot breath bulldyke opportunist
I understand her reasoning. What I don't get is why is she always the odd ball out. 3 vs 1! Hun, maybe that should tell you something. :plzstop: I'm just kinda over her lately.
Quote from: MINAJ. on January 24, 2018, 11:25:41 PM
She made an amazing point but that whole control freak thing turned me off. Like girl you haven?t made a good song since the early 00. Fly About was late and that song she wrote for her daughter was tragic.
ddddddddddddddddddd
Here, I don't think it was coming from a "feelin myself" kinda place (for once). She's at a place now where she wants full control of the music that she puts out there and her IMAGE. She knows that these girls aren't gonna agree with her musical ideas n directions and she knows she's not here for there's either, so lemme not waste my time or theirs.
Quote from: Harlem on January 24, 2018, 11:25:34 PM
Quote from: ???? on January 24, 2018, 11:23:28 PM
Good points.
Not mad at her.
!!!!
Def all valid points! Just tour, start new businesses and get bread...
V
Flopping is an R&B thing
Not sure why or how that matters if ur heart is in the music
fck that. youre already coined up. make music because you love it not because youre worried about flopping. its not like her voice is worth an estate anyway. Chile... just move.
Quote from: ENRIQUE FAGLESIAS on January 24, 2018, 11:38:45 PM
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Flopping is an R&B thing
Not sure why or how that matters if ur heart is in the music
R&B is just not the "IT" thing right now.. if youre a true artist and youre not struggling for money, why would you let that stop you from releasing music. its kind of remedial for her to have that mindset.
and it looks like its still gonna happen with or without her
Xscape would?ve really slayed the JD/B Cox era from like 04-06 thou... if they had reunited earlier or never broke up
Quote from: ENRIQUE FAGLESIAS on January 24, 2018, 11:38:45 PM
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Flopping is an R&B thing
Not sure why or how that matters if ur heart is in the music
It matters if your heart isn't isn't in the music that your actually making. It's not her fault that they are driven by something different than what she is driven by. IMO, she is able to think about it more level headed. I feel they are only thinking about it from a money/needing to work perspective because well....THEY NEED IT!!!
Quote from: Kode Red on January 25, 2018, 12:22:51 AM
Quote from: ENRIQUE FAGLESIAS on January 24, 2018, 11:38:45 PM
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Flopping is an R&B thing
Not sure why or how that matters if ur heart is in the music
It matters if your heart isn't isn't in the music that your actually making. It's not her fault that they are driven by something different than what she is driven by. IMO, she is able to think about it more level headed. I feel they are only thinking about it from a money/needing to work perspective because well....THEY NEED IT!!!
Exactly. Kandi has a lot of things going on. She has her businesses, now she's on Broadway, she has the reality TV show, she's booked. To be at that point in ur life and want to go back to recording an album (which they really wont make any money from), its kinda pointless. She's up for doing the tour because she's SMART. No one is checking for new Xscape music. How did those 2 songs do that they put out? Even on social media? NOTHING. Kandi is actually quite smart and is really not here for the bullshit.
Its the same reason why Victoria Beckham is never interested in a Spice Girls reunion.
Quote from: ETIL on January 25, 2018, 12:51:41 AM
Quote from: Kode Red on January 25, 2018, 12:22:51 AM
Quote from: ENRIQUE FAGLESIAS on January 24, 2018, 11:38:45 PM
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Flopping is an R&B thing
Not sure why or how that matters if ur heart is in the music
It matters if your heart isn't isn't in the music that your actually making. It's not her fault that they are driven by something different than what she is driven by. IMO, she is able to think about it more level headed. I feel they are only thinking about it from a money/needing to work perspective because well....THEY NEED IT!!!
Exactly. Kandi has a lot of things going on. She has her businesses, now she's on Broadway, she has the reality TV show, she's booked. To be at that point in ur life and want to go back to recording an album (which they really wont make any money from), its kinda pointless. She's up for doing the tour because she's SMART. No one is checking for new Xscape music. How did those 2 songs do that they put out? Even on social media? NOTHING. Kandi is actually quite smart and is really not here for the bullshit.
Its the same reason why Victoria Beckham is never interested in a Spice Girls reunion.
Exactly. How they miss these points? I don't understand.
Quote from: ENRIQUE FAGLESIAS on January 24, 2018, 11:38:45 PM
V
Flopping is an R&B thing
Not sure why or how that matters if ur heart is in the music
Yeah she?s worried bout the money and business side of it
Fans would love new Music
She?s not passionate about it like that. Period
Do Tamika & Latowtruck really NEED anything tho?
I mean they seemed to have gotten along okay since the Xscape break up and just because they aren?t filthy rich doesn?t mean that they were dirt poor or anything. Tamika seems to be living a nice regular life outside of music.
Quote from: AJ on January 24, 2018, 11:42:08 PM
fck that. youre already coined up. make music because you love it not because youre worried about flopping. its not like her voice is worth an estate anyway. Chile... just move.
It?s very selfish
If Ghan, Mo or any of my Queens had that mindset I?d be pissed
It?s selfish from an artist standpoint
Quote from: ETIL on January 25, 2018, 12:51:41 AM
Quote from: Kode Red on January 25, 2018, 12:22:51 AM
Quote from: ENRIQUE FAGLESIAS on January 24, 2018, 11:38:45 PM
V
Flopping is an R&B thing
Not sure why or how that matters if ur heart is in the music
It matters if your heart isn't isn't in the music that your actually making. It's not her fault that they are driven by something different than what she is driven by. IMO, she is able to think about it more level headed. I feel they are only thinking about it from a money/needing to work perspective because well....THEY NEED IT!!!
Exactly. Kandi has a lot of things going on. She has her businesses, now she's on Broadway, she has the reality TV show, she's booked. To be at that point in ur life and want to go back to recording an album (which they really wont make any money from), its kinda pointless. She's up for doing the tour because she's SMART. No one is checking for new Xscape music. How did those 2 songs do that they put out? Even on social media? NOTHING. Kandi is actually quite smart and is really not here for the bullshit.
Its the same reason why Victoria Beckham is never interested in a Spice Girls reunion.
This makes sense
Quote from: Trey on January 24, 2018, 11:31:52 PM
Quote from: MINAJ. on January 24, 2018, 11:25:41 PM
She made an amazing point but that whole control freak thing turned me off. Like girl you haven?t made a good song since the early 00. Fly About was late and that song she wrote for her daughter was tragic.
ddddddddddddddddddd
Here, I don't think it was coming from a "feelin myself" kinda place (for once). She's at a place now where she wants full control of the music that she puts out there and her IMAGE. She knows that these girls aren't gonna agree with her musical ideas n directions and she knows she's not here for there's either, so lemme not waste my time or theirs.
Right bc the new music they have released is LATE
Quote from: Kaeli. on January 25, 2018, 01:15:44 AM
Do Tamika & Latowtruck really NEED anything tho?
I mean they seemed to have gotten along okay since the Xscape break up and just because they aren?t filthy rich doesn?t mean that they were dirt poor or anything. Tamika seems to be living a nice regular life outside of music.
yeah
You?ve never really heard them having money issues plus LaTocha lives in the same area as Tiny and T.I.
Quote from: Young on January 25, 2018, 01:16:10 AM
Quote from: AJ on January 24, 2018, 11:42:08 PM
fck that. youre already coined up. make music because you love it not because youre worried about flopping. its not like her voice is worth an estate anyway. Chile... just move.
It?s very selfish
If Ghan, Mo or any of my Queens had that mindset I?d be pissed
It?s selfish from an artist standpoint
That is not selfish.
There's nothing wrong with her reasonings or concerns. They are a 90s group and honestly nobody wants to hear no new music from them. Even at the concert, when Dream Killa came on, I heard a girl say, "Oh naw. Iono that song. They need get back to the old shit." That's ALL they wanna hear. Ain't nobody gonna buy the music from now and "Dream Killa" is the best song they have out right now cause them other songs are garbage.
It's best for them to just tour with the old shit, do the movie and continue on with their reality show. It was actually good, had steady ratings and most people wanted the season to be longer.
Not to mention, they've already stated that the group is solid. Tamika said in an interview that Xscape has more things coming up and Kandi will be back with them once her stint on Broadway is up. It isn't like their having many issues. ESPECIALLY Kandi and Tamika. They are thick as thieves now.
Well that was honest as fuck so i won?t fault her here.
At first i was about to drag her thinking her only reasoning was that it would flop :uhh: do you love music or not
But she basically admitted she just doesn?t fuck with them as a whole and she likes to be in control sddddd
Quote from: Trey on January 24, 2018, 11:26:08 PM
I was coming in here ready to lash, but I definitely understand where she's coming from and agree.
!!!!
:plzstop:
It?s refreshing to see an artist not be so fucking politically correct
Quote from: Kode Red on January 25, 2018, 12:22:51 AM
Quote from: ENRIQUE FAGLESIAS on January 24, 2018, 11:38:45 PM
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Flopping is an R&B thing
Not sure why or how that matters if ur heart is in the music
It matters if your heart isn't isn't in the music that your actually making. It's not her fault that they are driven by something different than what she is driven by. IMO, she is able to think about it more level headed. I feel they are only thinking about it from a money/needing to work perspective because well....THEY NEED IT!!!
she just doesn?t like them that much as a unit, PERIOD. Dndnfnf lets be real here
If they were all sisters and could work together without a hitch, she?d obviously be down IMO. No matter what year it is
But i agree with you. Who wants to sit in the booth and record something they know they won?t even like? That?s the thing about being in a group. I would NEVER
Quote from: Scott. on January 25, 2018, 01:26:13 AM
Quote from: Young on January 25, 2018, 01:16:10 AM
Quote from: AJ on January 24, 2018, 11:42:08 PM
fck that. youre already coined up. make music because you love it not because youre worried about flopping. its not like her voice is worth an estate anyway. Chile... just move.
It?s very selfish
If Ghan, Mo or any of my Queens had that mindset I?d be pissed
It?s selfish from an artist standpoint
That is not selfish.
There's nothing wrong with her reasonings or concerns. They are a 90s group and honestly nobody wants to hear no new music from them. Even at the concert, when Dream Killa came on, I heard a girl say, "Oh naw. Iono that song. They need get back to the old shit." That's ALL they wanna hear. Ain't nobody gonna buy the music from now and "Dream Killa" is the best song they have out right now cause them other songs are garbage.
It's best for them to just tour with the old shit, do the movie and continue on with their reality show. It was actually good, had steady ratings and most people wanted the season to be longer.
is it possible the reality show will come back? That slayed :uhh:
That needed at least 8-9 episodes. Fuck them
Quote from: ETIL on January 25, 2018, 12:51:41 AM
Quote from: Kode Red on January 25, 2018, 12:22:51 AM
Quote from: ENRIQUE FAGLESIAS on January 24, 2018, 11:38:45 PM
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Flopping is an R&B thing
Not sure why or how that matters if ur heart is in the music
It matters if your heart isn't isn't in the music that your actually making. It's not her fault that they are driven by something different than what she is driven by. IMO, she is able to think about it more level headed. I feel they are only thinking about it from a money/needing to work perspective because well....THEY NEED IT!!!
Exactly. Kandi has a lot of things going on. She has her businesses, now she's on Broadway, she has the reality TV show, she's booked. To be at that point in ur life and want to go back to recording an album (which they really wont make any money from), its kinda pointless. She's up for doing the tour because she's SMART. No one is checking for new Xscape music. How did those 2 songs do that they put out? Even on social media? NOTHING. Kandi is actually quite smart and is really not here for the bullshit.
Its the same reason why Victoria Beckham is never interested in a Spice Girls reunion.
Like music sales don't generate that much money any way. Artist don't even get half of the sales. Touring is where they make their money so thats what she's doing
Quote from: 1RIG on January 25, 2018, 03:16:56 AM
Quote from: Kode Red on January 25, 2018, 12:22:51 AM
Quote from: ENRIQUE FAGLESIAS on January 24, 2018, 11:38:45 PM
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Flopping is an R&B thing
Not sure why or how that matters if ur heart is in the music
It matters if your heart isn't isn't in the music that your actually making. It's not her fault that they are driven by something different than what she is driven by. IMO, she is able to think about it more level headed. I feel they are only thinking about it from a money/needing to work perspective because well....THEY NEED IT!!!
she just doesn?t like them that much as a unit, PERIOD. Dndnfnf lets be real here
If they were all sisters and could work together without a hitch, she?d obviously be down IMO. No matter what year it is
But i agree with you. Who wants to sit in the booth and record something they know they won?t even like? That?s the thing about being in a group. I would NEVER
!! ALL of this too.
Kandi laid out all the reasons here. And they all make perfect sense. Kandi aint the only person from an old girl group that just doesnt want to reunite n make new music. She's just the only one who is completely honest about her reasons.
Quote from: TheNextLew on January 24, 2018, 11:29:51 PM
Shes kinda full of it
the legacy will not be tarnished cause no one will count a new album as part of the legacy
way in the future yea they will
Actually it doesn't even take for time to pass, people say Kim "ruined her legacy" with the Nicki mess. So yeah Kandi is right, an Xscape album will flop and put a stain on their legacy.
Quote from: Kode Red on January 25, 2018, 12:22:51 AM
Quote from: ENRIQUE FAGLESIAS on January 24, 2018, 11:38:45 PM
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Flopping is an R&B thing
Not sure why or how that matters if ur heart is in the music
It matters if your heart isn't isn't in the music that your actually making. It's not her fault that they are driven by something different than what she is driven by. IMO, she is able to think about it more level headed. I feel they are only thinking about it from a money/needing to work perspective because well....THEY NEED IT!!!
s
But it sounds Like her heart is in the money
Which is why she should be booted out the recordings
She?s so selfish and money hungry
It isn?t cute
She needs to stop acting like they?re the temptations or supremes
They had a cute run
Not some iconic mess that just shouldn?t be toucbed
Plea
Quote from: MINAJ. on January 25, 2018, 01:23:27 AM
Quote from: Kaeli. on January 25, 2018, 01:15:44 AM
Do Tamika & Latowtruck really NEED anything tho?
I mean they seemed to have gotten along okay since the Xscape break up and just because they aren?t filthy rich doesn?t mean that they were dirt poor or anything. Tamika seems to be living a nice regular life outside of music.
yeah
You?ve never really heard them having money issues plus LaTocha lives in the same area as Tiny and T.I.
I'm not saying they are having money issues, but music/touring seems to be the main lifeline or interest. It was quite obvious if you watch the reality show.
Quote from: AJ on January 24, 2018, 11:45:28 PM
Quote from: ENRIQUE FAGLESIAS on January 24, 2018, 11:38:45 PM
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Flopping is an R&B thing
Not sure why or how that matters if ur heart is in the music
R&B is just not the "IT" thing right now.. if youre a true artist and youre not struggling for money, why would you let that stop you from releasing music. its kind of remedial for her to have that mindset.
and it looks like its still gonna happen with or without her
Would be a kii if they got a lil Rhythmic hit mess
Rooting for them :jackiessales:
Quote from: ENRIQUE FAGLESIAS on January 25, 2018, 08:29:32 AM
Quote from: Kode Red on January 25, 2018, 12:22:51 AM
Quote from: ENRIQUE FAGLESIAS on January 24, 2018, 11:38:45 PM
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Flopping is an R&B thing
Not sure why or how that matters if ur heart is in the music
It matters if your heart isn't isn't in the music that your actually making. It's not her fault that they are driven by something different than what she is driven by. IMO, she is able to think about it more level headed. I feel they are only thinking about it from a money/needing to work perspective because well....THEY NEED IT!!!
s
But it sounds Like her heart is in the money
Which is why she should be booted out the recordings
She?s so selfish and money hungry
It isn?t cute
She needs to stop acting like they?re the temptations or supremes
They had a cute run
Not some iconic mess that just shouldn?t be toucbed
Plea
!!!! :plzstop: this tour has her GASSED
Legacy?
Kandi's only reason for reuniting with the ladies is for money. She don't fuck with dem bitches besides Tiny. So to avoid unnecessary drama and conflict, Kandi just stepped aside. Do y'all really think all 4 ladies will see eye to eye doing a whole new era?
And if and when dem 3 girls release music, they MAY get a cute lil' Top 20 charting on Urban AC at most. Honestly, Tiny has more of a chance doing a solo mess than teaming up with dem otha hoes.
wait Bath, this sig
n
Y?all be just saying anything.
Yea I don?t blame Kandi
especially after all these years doing things on her own
and knowing that the other girls don?t agree with her on most things
why put yourself through the stress?
She can do bad all by herself
n
Quote from: AYR on January 25, 2018, 11:01:11 AM
Yea I don?t blame Kandi
especially after all these years doing things on her own
and knowing that the other girls don?t agree with her on most things
why put yourself through the stress?
She can do bad all by herself
Exactly.
Xscape has no legacy tbh
they ain't EnVouge
Shit and aint nobody buying EnVogue?s new music either, which makes what she?s saying even more valid
Quote from: Scott. on January 25, 2018, 11:49:40 AM
Shit and aint nobody buying EnVogue?s new music either, which makes what she?s saying even more valid
but that?s really shallow. And it makes sense.. kandi being the weakest vocally out of all of them.. she doesn?t care about the music.. almost no one is scanning past platinum in pure sales. So does that mean you never release music? I?m sorry but that?s fucking shallow. How are you a rich ass artist and you?re still worried about sales to the point where you just give up? That?s immature. And she?s a coward.
Quote from: AJ on January 25, 2018, 11:54:29 AM
Quote from: Scott. on January 25, 2018, 11:49:40 AM
Shit and aint nobody buying EnVogue?s new music either, which makes what she?s saying even more valid
but that?s really shallow. And it makes sense.. kandi being the weakest vocally out of all of them.. she doesn?t care about the music.. almost no one is scanning past platinum in pure sales. So does that mean you never release music? I?m sorry but that?s fucking shallow. How are you a rich ass artist and you?re still worried about sales to the point where you just give up? That?s immature. And she?s a coward.
It's not shallow.
And y'all make it JUST about the sales, when she's clearly said more than that. She knows creatively at this point that her and the girls aren't going to mesh and agree how the sound should be. So why do it? So why be stressed out over the whole thing when you already know what it's gonna be like.
And immature? Y'all are just saying anything. Nobody wants to hear no new Xscape music. That's just the truth and I'm huge fan and I know. They can keep touring and doing other things. She never wanted to do any new music anyway which is what she told them them from the jump.
Y'all in here acting like what she said was the ultimate worst when MOST of y'all in here was screaming "Nobody cares about no damn Xscape reunion! Nobody wants no music!" And now that she's confirming what y'all done said, she's swallow, selfish and a coward? Ok :dead:
Quote from: AJ on January 25, 2018, 11:54:29 AM
Quote from: Scott. on January 25, 2018, 11:49:40 AM
Shit and aint nobody buying EnVogue?s new music either, which makes what she?s saying even more valid
but that?s really shallow. And it makes sense.. kandi being the weakest vocally out of all of them.. she doesn?t care about the music.. almost no one is scanning past platinum in pure sales. So does that mean you never release music? I?m sorry but that?s fucking shallow. How are you a rich ass artist and you?re still worried about sales to the point where you just give up? That?s immature. And she?s a coward.
Agreed
And they need to learn to work together. If she wants full creative control do a solo album.
Quote from: Baph al Mana. on January 25, 2018, 11:43:28 AM
Xscape has no legacy tbh
they ain't EnVouge
b they?re bigger IMO
Quote from: november on January 25, 2018, 12:02:42 PM
Quote from: Baph al Mana. on January 25, 2018, 11:43:28 AM
Xscape has no legacy tbh
they ain't EnVouge
b they?re bigger IMO
And their albums are better. Only EnVogue's singles are amazing.
Well how do you define ?give up??
because still touring and doing Broadway is all music related
just because she?s not doing new Xscape music doesn?t mean she doesn?t care about music at all
Quote from: Scott. on January 25, 2018, 12:00:25 PM
Quote from: AJ on January 25, 2018, 11:54:29 AM
Quote from: Scott. on January 25, 2018, 11:49:40 AM
Shit and aint nobody buying EnVogue?s new music either, which makes what she?s saying even more valid
but that?s really shallow. And it makes sense.. kandi being the weakest vocally out of all of them.. she doesn?t care about the music.. almost no one is scanning past platinum in pure sales. So does that mean you never release music? I?m sorry but that?s fucking shallow. How are you a rich ass artist and you?re still worried about sales to the point where you just give up? That?s immature. And she?s a coward.
It's not shallow.
And y'all make it JUST about the sales, when she's clearly said more than that. She knows creatively at this point that her and the girls aren't going to mesh and agree how the sound should be. So why do it? So why be stressed out over the whole thing when you already what it's gonna be like that.
And immature? Y'all are just saying anything. Nobody wants to hear no new Xscape music. That's just the truth and I'm huge fan and I know. They can keep touring and doing other things. She never wanted to do any new music anyway which is what she told me them fromt he jum.
she?s narcissistic babe. Who gives a damn what people want to hear? That?s half of what being a trash artist is. And whats so different about creating music new music together rather than creating new tours together, the budget for the tour, visuals, musical interludes and performances.. if that?s the case she shouldn?t tour with them either, if they don?t ?mesh? it?s always her vs them..she?s still not gonna be fully in control of the tour and she?s still gonna have to compromise with them as far as ideas, promo, budget, etc.... so what gives?? It?s just stupid
Quote from: AJ on January 25, 2018, 12:07:35 PM
Quote from: Scott. on January 25, 2018, 12:00:25 PM
Quote from: AJ on January 25, 2018, 11:54:29 AM
Quote from: Scott. on January 25, 2018, 11:49:40 AM
Shit and aint nobody buying EnVogue?s new music either, which makes what she?s saying even more valid
but that?s really shallow. And it makes sense.. kandi being the weakest vocally out of all of them.. she doesn?t care about the music.. almost no one is scanning past platinum in pure sales. So does that mean you never release music? I?m sorry but that?s fucking shallow. How are you a rich ass artist and you?re still worried about sales to the point where you just give up? That?s immature. And she?s a coward.
It's not shallow.
And y'all make it JUST about the sales, when she's clearly said more than that. She knows creatively at this point that her and the girls aren't going to mesh and agree how the sound should be. So why do it? So why be stressed out over the whole thing when you already what it's gonna be like that.
And immature? Y'all are just saying anything. Nobody wants to hear no new Xscape music. That's just the truth and I'm huge fan and I know. They can keep touring and doing other things. She never wanted to do any new music anyway which is what she told me them fromt he jum.
she?s narcissistic babe. Who gives a damn what people want to hear? That?s half of what being a trash artist is. And whats so different about creating music new music together rather than creating new tours together, the budget for the tour, visuals, musical interludes and performances.. if that?s the case she shouldn?t tour with them either, if they don?t ?mesh? it?s always her vs them..she?s still not gonna be fully in control of the tour and she?s still gonna have to compromise with them as far as ideas, promo, budget, etc.... so what gives?? It?s just stupid
Yeah agree to disagree
Quote from: AJ on January 25, 2018, 12:07:35 PM
Quote from: Scott. on January 25, 2018, 12:00:25 PM
Quote from: AJ on January 25, 2018, 11:54:29 AM
Quote from: Scott. on January 25, 2018, 11:49:40 AM
Shit and aint nobody buying EnVogue?s new music either, which makes what she?s saying even more valid
but that?s really shallow. And it makes sense.. kandi being the weakest vocally out of all of them.. she doesn?t care about the music.. almost no one is scanning past platinum in pure sales. So does that mean you never release music? I?m sorry but that?s fucking shallow. How are you a rich ass artist and you?re still worried about sales to the point where you just give up? That?s immature. And she?s a coward.
It's not shallow.
And y'all make it JUST about the sales, when she's clearly said more than that. She knows creatively at this point that her and the girls aren't going to mesh and agree how the sound should be. So why do it? So why be stressed out over the whole thing when you already what it's gonna be like that.
And immature? Y'all are just saying anything. Nobody wants to hear no new Xscape music. That's just the truth and I'm huge fan and I know. They can keep touring and doing other things. She never wanted to do any new music anyway which is what she told me them fromt he jum.
she?s narcissistic babe. Who gives a damn what people want to hear? That?s half of what being a trash artist is. And whats so different about creating music new music together rather than creating new tours together, the budget for the tour, visuals, musical interludes and performances.. if that?s the case she shouldn?t tour with them either, if they don?t ?mesh? it?s always her vs them..she?s still not gonna be fully in control of the tour and she?s still gonna have to compromise with them as far as ideas, promo, budget, etc.... so what gives?? It?s just stupid
the difference is she actually likes the old music and ppl came to hear it on tour
VS new music she won?t like or get money from
what?s the point?
exactly.. thanks.
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Quote from: AYR on January 25, 2018, 12:13:14 PM
Quote from: AJ on January 25, 2018, 12:07:35 PM
Quote from: Scott. on January 25, 2018, 12:00:25 PM
Quote from: AJ on January 25, 2018, 11:54:29 AM
Quote from: Scott. on January 25, 2018, 11:49:40 AM
Shit and aint nobody buying EnVogue?s new music either, which makes what she?s saying even more valid
but that?s really shallow. And it makes sense.. kandi being the weakest vocally out of all of them.. she doesn?t care about the music.. almost no one is scanning past platinum in pure sales. So does that mean you never release music? I?m sorry but that?s fucking shallow. How are you a rich ass artist and you?re still worried about sales to the point where you just give up? That?s immature. And she?s a coward.
It's not shallow.
And y'all make it JUST about the sales, when she's clearly said more than that. She knows creatively at this point that her and the girls aren't going to mesh and agree how the sound should be. So why do it? So why be stressed out over the whole thing when you already what it's gonna be like that.
And immature? Y'all are just saying anything. Nobody wants to hear no new Xscape music. That's just the truth and I'm huge fan and I know. They can keep touring and doing other things. She never wanted to do any new music anyway which is what she told me them fromt he jum.
she?s narcissistic babe. Who gives a damn what people want to hear? That?s half of what being a trash artist is. And whats so different about creating music new music together rather than creating new tours together, the budget for the tour, visuals, musical interludes and performances.. if that?s the case she shouldn?t tour with them either, if they don?t ?mesh? it?s always her vs them..she?s still not gonna be fully in control of the tour and she?s still gonna have to compromise with them as far as ideas, promo, budget, etc.... so what gives?? It?s just stupid
the difference is she actually likes the old music and ppl came to hear it on tour
VS new music she won?t like or get money from
what?s the point?
!!!!
Like what?s hard to understand
Very fair.
Kandi has her coins and isn't in need of anything. If she were to do the album it would have been out of complete love for what they were doing. So if she's not feeling the direction or chemistry, what incentive does she have left?
I see why the other gorls are thirsty to get things going again. Kandi has the luxury of saying "I'd rather not" and she settled in that. Can't blame her.
and she?s a bad person for not subjecting herself to that?
Guess she?ll have to take that then
Quote from: AYR on January 25, 2018, 12:13:14 PM
Quote from: AJ on January 25, 2018, 12:07:35 PM
Quote from: Scott. on January 25, 2018, 12:00:25 PM
Quote from: AJ on January 25, 2018, 11:54:29 AM
Quote from: Scott. on January 25, 2018, 11:49:40 AM
Shit and aint nobody buying EnVogue?s new music either, which makes what she?s saying even more valid
but that?s really shallow. And it makes sense.. kandi being the weakest vocally out of all of them.. she doesn?t care about the music.. almost no one is scanning past platinum in pure sales. So does that mean you never release music? I?m sorry but that?s fucking shallow. How are you a rich ass artist and you?re still worried about sales to the point where you just give up? That?s immature. And she?s a coward.
It's not shallow.
And y'all make it JUST about the sales, when she's clearly said more than that. She knows creatively at this point that her and the girls aren't going to mesh and agree how the sound should be. So why do it? So why be stressed out over the whole thing when you already what it's gonna be like that.
And immature? Y'all are just saying anything. Nobody wants to hear no new Xscape music. That's just the truth and I'm huge fan and I know. They can keep touring and doing other things. She never wanted to do any new music anyway which is what she told me them fromt he jum.
she?s narcissistic babe. Who gives a damn what people want to hear? That?s half of what being a trash artist is. And whats so different about creating music new music together rather than creating new tours together, the budget for the tour, visuals, musical interludes and performances.. if that?s the case she shouldn?t tour with them either, if they don?t ?mesh? it?s always her vs them..she?s still not gonna be fully in control of the tour and she?s still gonna have to compromise with them as far as ideas, promo, budget, etc.... so what gives?? It?s just stupid
the difference is she actually likes the old music and ppl came to hear it on tour
VS new music she won?t like or get money from
what?s the point?
but she still not gonna agree on setlist, wardrobe, budget, setlist, travel, band, interludes.... whatever tf it may be she won't be in full control... and thats what she wants. she essentially said she doesn't like being in a group by saying she doesn't really want to compromise because she's been in control of her own career. cool but my number one question is.... are you NOT a group when you tour? are there not things that youre gonna have to work together on or compromise on to effectively tour?
it might be harder to tour as a group rather than record music as a group.
Quote from: AJ on January 25, 2018, 12:17:34 PM
Quote from: AYR on January 25, 2018, 12:13:14 PM
Quote from: AJ on January 25, 2018, 12:07:35 PM
Quote from: Scott. on January 25, 2018, 12:00:25 PM
Quote from: AJ on January 25, 2018, 11:54:29 AM
Quote from: Scott. on January 25, 2018, 11:49:40 AM
Shit and aint nobody buying EnVogue?s new music either, which makes what she?s saying even more valid
but that?s really shallow. And it makes sense.. kandi being the weakest vocally out of all of them.. she doesn?t care about the music.. almost no one is scanning past platinum in pure sales. So does that mean you never release music? I?m sorry but that?s fucking shallow. How are you a rich ass artist and you?re still worried about sales to the point where you just give up? That?s immature. And she?s a coward.
It's not shallow.
And y'all make it JUST about the sales, when she's clearly said more than that. She knows creatively at this point that her and the girls aren't going to mesh and agree how the sound should be. So why do it? So why be stressed out over the whole thing when you already what it's gonna be like that.
And immature? Y'all are just saying anything. Nobody wants to hear no new Xscape music. That's just the truth and I'm huge fan and I know. They can keep touring and doing other things. She never wanted to do any new music anyway which is what she told me them fromt he jum.
she?s narcissistic babe. Who gives a damn what people want to hear? That?s half of what being a trash artist is. And whats so different about creating music new music together rather than creating new tours together, the budget for the tour, visuals, musical interludes and performances.. if that?s the case she shouldn?t tour with them either, if they don?t ?mesh? it?s always her vs them..she?s still not gonna be fully in control of the tour and she?s still gonna have to compromise with them as far as ideas, promo, budget, etc.... so what gives?? It?s just stupid
the difference is she actually likes the old music and ppl came to hear it on tour
VS new music she won?t like or get money from
what?s the point?
but she still not gonna agree on setlist, wardrobe, budget, setlist, travel, band, interludes.... whatever tf it may be she won't be in full control... and thats what she wants. she essentially said she doesn't like being in a group by saying she doesn't really want to compromise because she's been in control of her own career. cool but my number one question is.... are you NOT a group when you tour? are there not things that youre gonna have to work together on or compromise on to effectively tour?
I guess the love for the old music and the fans and ultimately the money is enough to outweigh that
Plus there?s only so much a person can take sometimes
they argued on the show in rehearsals, in interviews etc
Then on top of that add on being stuck in a studio?
Nah
I personally don't buy a word of it.
So she's saying she's scared to flop. But the Xscape albums weren't all "hits" it was easy to go platinum when they were releasing music. It wasn't like they were doing Mariah or Celine numbers back then. They weren't even doing TLC or BoyzIImen numbers.
Fans would love to hear a new solid Xscape album, and she basically saying "if it can't be done my way, I don't want to do to"
Nothing she's produced or released as became a hit. She lucked up on RHOA and is known for that.
she is wack as fuck
Quote from: AJ on January 25, 2018, 11:54:29 AM
Quote from: Scott. on January 25, 2018, 11:49:40 AM
Shit and aint nobody buying EnVogue?s new music either, which makes what she?s saying even more valid
but that?s really shallow. And it makes sense.. kandi being the weakest vocally out of all of them.. she doesn?t care about the music.. almost no one is scanning past platinum in pure sales. So does that mean you never release music? I?m sorry but that?s fucking shallow. How are you a rich ass artist and you?re still worried about sales to the point where you just give up? That?s immature. And she?s a coward.
lay her the fuck OWT :oof:
Quote from: Afro on January 25, 2018, 12:16:31 PM
Very fair.
Kandi has her coins and isn't in need of anything. If she were to do the album it would have been out of complete love for what they were doing. So if she's not feeling the direction or chemistry, what incentive does she have left?
I see why the other gorls are thirsty to get things going again. Kandi has the luxury of saying "I'd rather not" and she settled in that. Can't blame her.
Quote from: fresh on January 25, 2018, 12:42:15 PM
I personally don't buy a word of it.
So she's saying she's scared to flop. But the Xscape albums weren't all "hits" it was easy to go platinum when they were releasing music. It wasn't like they were doing Mariah or Celine numbers back then. They weren't even doing TLC or BoyzIImen numbers.
Fans would love to hear a new solid Xscape album, and she basically saying "if it can't be done my way, I don't want to do to"
Nothing she's produced or released as became a hit. She lucked up on RHOA and is known for that.
she is wack as fuck
Xscape was a little above Kut Klose but DO
Quote from: Baph al Mana. on January 25, 2018, 12:46:09 PM
Quote from: fresh on January 25, 2018, 12:42:15 PM
I personally don't buy a word of it.
So she's saying she's scared to flop. But the Xscape albums weren't all "hits" it was easy to go platinum when they were releasing music. It wasn't like they were doing Mariah or Celine numbers back then. They weren't even doing TLC or BoyzIImen numbers.
Fans would love to hear a new solid Xscape album, and she basically saying "if it can't be done my way, I don't want to do to"
Nothing she's produced or released as became a hit. She lucked up on RHOA and is known for that.
she is wack as fuck
Quote from: Baph al Mana. on January 25, 2018, 12:46:30 PM
Xscape was a little above Kut Klose but DO
a Jagged edge mess
Quote from: fresh on January 25, 2018, 12:42:15 PM
I personally don't buy a word of it.
So she's saying she's scared to flop. But the Xscape albums weren't all "hits" it was easy to go platinum when they were releasing music. It wasn't like they were doing Mariah or Celine numbers back then. They weren't even doing TLC or BoyzIImen numbers.
Fans would love to hear a new solid Xscape album, and she basically saying "if it can't be done my way, I don't want to do to"
Nothing she's produced or released as became a hit. She lucked up on RHOA and is known for that.
she is wack as fuck
Exactly.
It's totally reasonable for her to be scared to flop in a time when everything becomes an event via social media.
Haha! Xscape did 2K in pure sales! LMAO!
She's made her money, and doesn't want to invest her time in something that won't result in a return of investment. At least touring is guaranteed money - I see why she hopped on that a bit. But doing an entire album when she has other business ventures to tend to that are putting money in her pocket?
And on top of that, doing an album with gorls who happily slandered her name but are now eating humble pie since they're not quite in the situation she's in financially and in life? Yeah, kwee said no thanks and I see why.
She really didn't even have to explain it. The reasons are obvious.
And Kandi ain?t made not one Forbes list. Nor has she been featured in Black Enterprise but Rich Bitch, I guess.
She certainly ain't in Tonka's tax bracket.
ff
I just find it quite off that the same ppl calling her selfish, wack, stupid and all these words are the same ones who wouldn't be supporting or buying any of her music. The same ones saying they ain't no En Vogue, TLC or anything. Then why is it a problem that at her stage in life, she dont wanna record music that y'all wont even support? :kii:
Quote from: ETIL on January 25, 2018, 12:53:12 PM
ff
I just find it quite off that the same ppl calling her selfish, wack, stupid and all these words are the same ones who wouldn't be supporting or buying any of her music. The same ones saying they ain't no En Vogue, TLC or anything. Then why is it a problem that at her stage in life, she dont wanna record music that y'all wont even support? :kii:
jkfdsnjkfsds
I mean did they even buy those 2 Xscape songs that dropped last year
:diddraispoot:
The entire world is selfish. People will ultimately be out for themselves and looking at their bottom line.
So let's not make that a Kandi thing.
Trust, if Tonka and her sister were in different situations they wouldn't be hopping for joy about this album either.
I'm perfectly fine with her being left off. I purchased the new Xscap3 music.
'Dream Killa' is fiiiiireee.
and I'm fine with Kandi reprising Wendy Willams role in the 'Chicago' broadway play lolz
her reasoning for not recording music didn't stack up for me.
SWV was bigger than Xscape, and they're still releasing GOOD music.
Quote from: fresh on January 25, 2018, 12:59:33 PM
SWV was bigger than Xscape, and they're still releasing GOOD music.
and again, no one's buying it.
Kandi is here for money moves, and money moves only.
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Do you think this Xscape album is gonna be hot and sell?
Honestly.
Quote from: Afro on January 25, 2018, 01:02:07 PM
Do you think this Xscape album is gonna be hot and sell?
Honestly.
Not sell to their old standers, but I do think theres a market there.
if they're not losing money, then why not?
everyone ain't gonna sit on top of the ichuens charts. but that doesn't mean the music isn't good
Quote from: Afro on January 25, 2018, 01:02:07 PM
Do you think this Xscape album is gonna be hot and sell?
Honestly.
So should Toni stop making music then?
It would have been nice to hear her on the new tracks but I understand where she is coming from. BBD,112,SWV, and Jagged Edge have all put out new albums but their old catalogues are what sells and what people know them for. That is why I like Destiny?s Child formula...they sprinkle new mess here and there on solo projects and it?s just enough.
oh u wanna mess huh
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I've always accepted that Toni is a flop now.
If she decided to say "You know wha....lemme sit down somewhere", I'd totally understand.
I APPRECIATE her continuing to release music because I love her, but it'd be reasonable if she decided that she was done with music.
It's not about ragging on them doing an album. It's about RESPECTING one's decision and reasoning for not participating.
Quote from: Afro on January 25, 2018, 01:02:07 PM
Do you think this Xscape album is gonna be hot and sell?
Honestly.
It?s an EP. it?s not even going to chart.
Kandi is full of shit. Just admit you hate tocha and keep it moving hun.
Quote from: fresh on January 25, 2018, 01:05:53 PM
Quote from: Afro on January 25, 2018, 01:02:07 PM
Do you think this Xscape album is gonna be hot and sell?
Honestly.
Not sell to their old standers, but I do think theres a market there.
if they're not losing money, then why not?
everyone ain't gonna sit on top of the ichuens charts. but that doesn't mean the music isn't good
they would be losing money though
on studio time, promotion etc
and to have to split the little money they get 4+ ways
Kandi has a whole studio at her house
they actually wasted a valuable opportunity with Kandi being stubborn.
had they recorded 4 new songs, and packaged them into a greatest hits mess, and took that on the road. the new songs wouldn't feel so out of place. and they could have tested the new songs at their sold out arena shows.
And she'd still have to pay engineers to come in and mix mess for her.
Packaging, marketing....Stepping in front of the mic is just the first step. Maybe the easiest
I would say S Club 7 is more iconic than XSCAPE
Actually
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Quote from: Afro on January 25, 2018, 01:09:01 PM
oh u wanna mess huh
svvvvvvvvvvvvvvv
I've always accepted that Toni is a flop now.
If she decided to say "You know wha....lemme sit down somewhere", I'd totally understand.
I APPRECIATE her continuing to release music because I love her, but it'd be reasonable if she decided that she was done with music.
It's not about ragging on them doing an album. It's about RESPECTING one's decision and reasoning for not participating.
plus Toni tried to quit and everyone from Prince to Anita Baker called her and talked her out of it
Then she did an album with Babyface which earned a Grammy
Toni is a legend, Xscape is a R&B veteran group with classic songs
terrible comparison
it?s different
Quote from: Afro on January 25, 2018, 01:12:30 PM
And she'd still have to pay engineers to come in and mix mess for her.
Packaging, marketing....Stepping in front of the mic is just the first step. Maybe the easiest
then who even says the other 4 girls would agree to recording the album there? They don?t like her ideas so most likely they would not want to be under her roof where she could have some sort of control
Quote from: AYR on January 25, 2018, 01:14:12 PM
Quote from: Afro on January 25, 2018, 01:09:01 PM
oh u wanna mess huh
svvvvvvvvvvvvvvv
I've always accepted that Toni is a flop now.
If she decided to say "You know wha....lemme sit down somewhere", I'd totally understand.
I APPRECIATE her continuing to release music because I love her, but it'd be reasonable if she decided that she was done with music.
It's not about ragging on them doing an album. It's about RESPECTING one's decision and reasoning for not participating.
plus Toni tried to quit and everyone from Prince to Anita Baker called her and talked her out of it
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you believed that story line lie about her retiring? :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
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And these women clearly don't genuinely use each other. Even after all these years, some tension lingers.
Are we really confused as to why Kandi's not willing to participate? Or do we just wanna drag Kandi
Quote from: OwnIt on January 25, 2018, 01:12:31 PM
I would say S Club 7 is more iconic than XSCAPE
Actually
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Quote from: Afro on January 25, 2018, 01:12:30 PM
And she'd still have to pay engineers to come in and mix mess for her.
Packaging, marketing....Stepping in front of the mic is just the first step. Maybe the easiest
Herb girl plea.
You can literally get an engineer for damn near free.
Why y?all acting like it?s going to be done multi million dollar project? :plzstop:
2nd season of the bravo show. More concerts. There?s really nothing to lose.
Quote from: fresh on January 25, 2018, 01:17:32 PM
Quote from: AYR on January 25, 2018, 01:14:12 PM
Quote from: Afro on January 25, 2018, 01:09:01 PM
oh u wanna mess huh
svvvvvvvvvvvvvvv
I've always accepted that Toni is a flop now.
If she decided to say "You know wha....lemme sit down somewhere", I'd totally understand.
I APPRECIATE her continuing to release music because I love her, but it'd be reasonable if she decided that she was done with music.
It's not about ragging on them doing an album. It's about RESPECTING one's decision and reasoning for not participating.
plus Toni tried to quit and everyone from Prince to Anita Baker called her and talked her out of it
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alknad'nvaba
knbaoeirhg3o4ijag
you believed that story line lie about her retiring? :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
the girl has lupus
It?s not hard to believe
Quote from: Sl?Venchy on January 25, 2018, 01:19:34 PM
2nd season of the bravo show. More concerts. There?s really nothing to lose.
nothing to add either
except forgettable, flop new songs
Quote from: AYR on January 25, 2018, 01:22:15 PM
Quote from: Sl?Venchy on January 25, 2018, 01:19:34 PM
2nd season of the bravo show. More concerts. There?s really nothing to lose.
nothing to add either
except forgettable, flop new songs
thats kinda were Mya is currently at.
guess she should pack it up and stop too.
just retire on a beach eating guava and honeydew melon
Quote from: fresh on January 25, 2018, 01:23:27 PM
Quote from: AYR on January 25, 2018, 01:22:15 PM
Quote from: Sl?Venchy on January 25, 2018, 01:19:34 PM
2nd season of the bravo show. More concerts. There?s really nothing to lose.
nothing to add either
except forgettable, flop new songs
thats kinda were Mya is currently at.
guess she should pack it up and stop too.
just retire on a beach eating guava and honeydew melon
Mya?s last album was Grammy nominated
will the same happen for Xscape?
Quote from: AYR on January 25, 2018, 01:24:31 PM
Quote from: fresh on January 25, 2018, 01:23:27 PM
Quote from: AYR on January 25, 2018, 01:22:15 PM
Quote from: Sl?Venchy on January 25, 2018, 01:19:34 PM
2nd season of the bravo show. More concerts. There?s really nothing to lose.
nothing to add either
except forgettable, flop new songs
thats kinda were Mya is currently at.
guess she should pack it up and stop too.
just retire on a beach eating guava and honeydew melon
Mya?s last album was Grammy nominated
will the same happen for Xscape?
Xscape just had a sold out arena tour and a hit tv show.
they have more in the fire than mya.
so you never know if you give up before trying.
:cheerup:
Quote from: AYR on January 25, 2018, 01:22:15 PM
Quote from: Sl?Venchy on January 25, 2018, 01:19:34 PM
2nd season of the bravo show. More concerts. There?s really nothing to lose.
nothing to add either
except forgettable, flop new songs
This pessimistic view on life. Nnnn
Plenty of coins to add if they get to get one of them to be the theme song for their show. Instead of using the songs JD owns, wrote and produced.
Quote from: fresh on January 25, 2018, 01:26:06 PM
Quote from: AYR on January 25, 2018, 01:24:31 PM
Quote from: fresh on January 25, 2018, 01:23:27 PM
Quote from: AYR on January 25, 2018, 01:22:15 PM
Quote from: Sl?Venchy on January 25, 2018, 01:19:34 PM
2nd season of the bravo show. More concerts. There?s really nothing to lose.
nothing to add either
except forgettable, flop new songs
thats kinda were Mya is currently at.
guess she should pack it up and stop too.
just retire on a beach eating guava and honeydew melon
Mya?s last album was Grammy nominated
will the same happen for Xscape?
Xscape just had a sold out arena tour and a hit tv show.
they have more in the fire than mya.
so you never know if you give up before trying.
:cheerup:
this was all based on their old music and Kandi/ Tiny having popular reality shows
again, is Dream Killa gonna pick up even BET awards nominations?
Quote from: Sl?Venchy on January 25, 2018, 01:26:24 PM
Quote from: AYR on January 25, 2018, 01:22:15 PM
Quote from: Sl?Venchy on January 25, 2018, 01:19:34 PM
2nd season of the bravo show. More concerts. There?s really nothing to lose.
nothing to add either
except forgettable, flop new songs
This pessimistic view on life. Nnnn
Plenty of coins to add if they get to get one of them to be the theme song for their show. Instead of using the songs JD owns, wrote and produced.
Id bet Kandi would be on board for 1 theme song
still not an album/ EP to record and promote
Y?all in here doing way too much as usual. Kandi is a cocky bitch at the end of the day.
I?m now a Phae. Fuck her.
Quote from: Scott. on January 25, 2018, 11:41:39 AM
Quote from: AYR on January 25, 2018, 11:01:11 AM
Yea I don?t blame Kandi
especially after all these years doing things on her own
and knowing that the other girls don?t agree with her on most things
why put yourself through the stress?
She can do bad all by herself
Exactly.
Y?all love to play Xscape like they were Mokenstef. I see Kut Klose being mentioned but do they have a certified album.
This group had several hit records and 3 platinum albums. If it was so ?easy? to go platinum why didn?t It happen for Jade, Brownstone, etc since it was so easy for everyone
Quote from: Scott. on January 25, 2018, 12:00:25 PM
Quote from: AJ on January 25, 2018, 11:54:29 AM
Quote from: Scott. on January 25, 2018, 11:49:40 AM
Shit and aint nobody buying EnVogue?s new music either, which makes what she?s saying even more valid
but that?s really shallow. And it makes sense.. kandi being the weakest vocally out of all of them.. she doesn?t care about the music.. almost no one is scanning past platinum in pure sales. So does that mean you never release music? I?m sorry but that?s fucking shallow. How are you a rich ass artist and you?re still worried about sales to the point where you just give up? That?s immature. And she?s a coward.
It's not shallow.
And y'all make it JUST about the sales, when she's clearly said more than that. She knows creatively at this point that her and the girls aren't going to mesh and agree how the sound should be. So why do it? So why be stressed out over the whole thing when you already know what it's gonna be like.
And immature? Y'all are just saying anything. Nobody wants to hear no new Xscape music. That's just the truth and I'm huge fan and I know. They can keep touring and doing other things. She never wanted to do any new music anyway which is what she told them them from the jump.
Y'all in here acting like what she said was the ultimate worst when MOST of y'all in here was screaming "Nobody cares about no damn Xscape reunion! Nobody wants no music!" And now that she's confirming what y'all done said, she's swallow, selfish and a coward? Ok :dead:
OOP!
Quote from: ETIL on January 25, 2018, 12:53:12 PM
ff
I just find it quite off that the same ppl calling her selfish, wack, stupid and all these words are the same ones who wouldn't be supporting or buying any of her music. The same ones saying they ain't no En Vogue, TLC or anything. Then why is it a problem that at her stage in life, she dont wanna record music that y'all wont even support? :kii:
the hypocrisy is real. They should say they wanna drag Kandi and be done
I wanna drag kandi
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Quote from: OwnIt on January 25, 2018, 01:42:33 PM
I wanna drag kandi
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Quote from: OwnIt on January 25, 2018, 01:42:33 PM
I wanna drag kandi
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hop right to it then bvy sis
these gorls up in here swirling their forks around appetizers. just dig in and drag the bitch if u want to :cheerup:
Yall still in here gassing up Mya while the rest of the universe forgot about her?
Xscape>>> :plzstop:
Quote from: OwnIt on January 25, 2018, 01:42:33 PM
I wanna drag kandi
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Honestly.. Let me just cut the bullshit because I don't care about Xscape
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Quote from: fresh on January 25, 2018, 01:46:11 PM
Quote from: OwnIt on January 25, 2018, 01:42:33 PM
I wanna drag kandi
(http://cld.fame10.com/image/upload/t_cn,f_auto,q_auto,$w_500/f10/2017/01/Kandi-Burruss.png)
(http://www.wetpaint.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/4/w310_Kandi-Burruss-Shares-MakeupFree-Selfie-in-March-2014-1396374516.jpg)
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Quote from: Baph al Mana. on January 25, 2018, 01:50:43 PM
Quote from: OwnIt on January 25, 2018, 01:42:33 PM
I wanna drag kandi
(http://cld.fame10.com/image/upload/t_cn,f_auto,q_auto,$w_500/f10/2017/01/Kandi-Burruss.png)
Honestly.. Let me just cut the bullshit because I don't care about Xscape
(http://media.tmz.com/2016/09/30/093016-kandi-burruss-kal-1080x608.jpg)
let's play grab the dildo by your thighs on the beach
(http://i.perezhilton.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/kandi__oPt.jpg)
(http://cdn1.alloy.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/kandiburruss-490x873.jpg)
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Quote from: Genesis on January 25, 2018, 01:50:39 PM
Yall still in here gassing up Mya while the rest of the universe forgot about her?
Xscape>>> :plzstop:
v
Who in here was gassing up Mya? :dead:
Porsha where were ya
(https://i.imgur.com/S5DrRYd.png)
Quote from: Lazarus on January 25, 2018, 02:21:04 PM
Quote from: Genesis on January 25, 2018, 01:50:39 PM
Yall still in here gassing up Mya while the rest of the universe forgot about her?
Xscape>>> :plzstop:
v
Who in here was gassing up Mya? :dead:
why don't you read the thread dummy
Quote from: Lazarus on January 25, 2018, 02:21:04 PM
Quote from: Genesis on January 25, 2018, 01:50:39 PM
Yall still in here gassing up Mya while the rest of the universe forgot about her?
Xscape>>> :plzstop:
v
Who in here was gassing up Mya? :dead:
Fresh kinda tried her and I brought up Her Grammy nod
I think that is what has her fuming
Quote from: OwnIt on January 25, 2018, 02:24:34 PM
Quote from: Lazarus on January 25, 2018, 02:21:04 PM
Quote from: Genesis on January 25, 2018, 01:50:39 PM
Yall still in here gassing up Mya while the rest of the universe forgot about her?
Xscape>>> :plzstop:
v
Who in here was gassing up Mya? :dead:
why don't you read the thread dummy
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Nobody in this thread was gassing up Mya. :dead: Her name was mentioned once and that's it. :dead:
Quote from: AYR on January 25, 2018, 02:29:20 PM
Quote from: Lazarus on January 25, 2018, 02:21:04 PM
Quote from: Genesis on January 25, 2018, 01:50:39 PM
Yall still in here gassing up Mya while the rest of the universe forgot about her?
Xscape>>> :plzstop:
v
Who in here was gassing up Mya? :dead:
Sle kinda tried her and I brought up Her Grammy nod
I think that is what has her fuming
oh cause i was wondering too :dead:
Quote from: AYR on January 25, 2018, 02:29:20 PM
Quote from: Lazarus on January 25, 2018, 02:21:04 PM
Quote from: Genesis on January 25, 2018, 01:50:39 PM
Yall still in here gassing up Mya while the rest of the universe forgot about her?
Xscape>>> :plzstop:
v
Who in here was gassing up Mya? :dead:
Sle kinda tried her and I brought up Her Grammy nod
I think that is what has her fuming
That was Fresh, btw.
Quote from: AJ on January 25, 2018, 12:17:34 PM
Quote from: AYR on January 25, 2018, 12:13:14 PM
Quote from: AJ on January 25, 2018, 12:07:35 PM
Quote from: Scott. on January 25, 2018, 12:00:25 PM
Quote from: AJ on January 25, 2018, 11:54:29 AM
Quote from: Scott. on January 25, 2018, 11:49:40 AM
Shit and aint nobody buying EnVogue?s new music either, which makes what she?s saying even more valid
but that?s really shallow. And it makes sense.. kandi being the weakest vocally out of all of them.. she doesn?t care about the music.. almost no one is scanning past platinum in pure sales. So does that mean you never release music? I?m sorry but that?s fucking shallow. How are you a rich ass artist and you?re still worried about sales to the point where you just give up? That?s immature. And she?s a coward.
It's not shallow.
And y'all make it JUST about the sales, when she's clearly said more than that. She knows creatively at this point that her and the girls aren't going to mesh and agree how the sound should be. So why do it? So why be stressed out over the whole thing when you already what it's gonna be like that.
And immature? Y'all are just saying anything. Nobody wants to hear no new Xscape music. That's just the truth and I'm huge fan and I know. They can keep touring and doing other things. She never wanted to do any new music anyway which is what she told me them fromt he jum.
she?s narcissistic babe. Who gives a damn what people want to hear? That?s half of what being a trash artist is. And whats so different about creating music new music together rather than creating new tours together, the budget for the tour, visuals, musical interludes and performances.. if that?s the case she shouldn?t tour with them either, if they don?t ?mesh? it?s always her vs them..she?s still not gonna be fully in control of the tour and she?s still gonna have to compromise with them as far as ideas, promo, budget, etc.... so what gives?? It?s just stupid
the difference is she actually likes the old music and ppl came to hear it on tour
VS new music she won?t like or get money from
what?s the point?
but she still not gonna agree on setlist, wardrobe, budget, setlist, travel, band, interludes.... whatever tf it may be she won't be in full control... and thats what she wants. she essentially said she doesn't like being in a group by saying she doesn't really want to compromise because she's been in control of her own career. cool but my number one question is.... are you NOT a group when you tour? are there not things that youre gonna have to work together on or compromise on to effectively tour?
ok but it?s not that difficult to come together and do what you?ve done together for years. Actively recording a new album that you won?t even like adds a totally new annoying ass wrinkle into the mix and she just doesn?t want to do that. Who would?
They already came together on this first tour so i imagine she already got over the more difficult hurdles. Especially forgiving and now getting along with Tamika.
That would immediately go out the window if they start recording and arguing again, and i think Kandi doesn?t want those memories flooding back in along with the possibility of shit going left again. She obviously suffered some heavy trauma during that time and is still trying to heal
Quote from: fresh on January 25, 2018, 12:42:15 PM
I personally don't buy a word of it.
So she's saying she's scared to flop. But the Xscape albums weren't all "hits" it was easy to go platinum when they were releasing music. It wasn't like they were doing Mariah or Celine numbers back then. They weren't even doing TLC or BoyzIImen numbers.
Fans would love to hear a new solid Xscape album, and she basically saying "if it can't be done my way, I don't want to do to"
Nothing she's produced or released as became a hit. She lucked up on RHOA and is known for that.
she is wack as fuck
?it was easy to go platinum? doesn?t negate what she said though :dead: you?re only helping her argument. I don?t like that she brought up flopping being a reason in her head but it?s honest at least
I don?t think it?s her main reason, but she expounded and admitted she?s a control freak and it?s ALWAYS 3 against one as well. That isn?t fun
Quote from: Afro on January 25, 2018, 12:51:03 PM
It's totally reasonable for her to be scared to flop in a time when everything becomes an event via social media.
Haha! Xscape did 2K in pure sales! LMAO!
She's made her money, and doesn't want to invest her time in something that won't result in a return of investment. At least touring is guaranteed money - I see why she hopped on that a bit. But doing an entire album when she has other business ventures to tend to that are putting money in her pocket?
And on top of that, doing an album with gorls who happily slandered her name but are now eating humble pie since they're not quite in the situation she's in financially and in life? Yeah, kwee said no thanks and I see why.
She really didn't even have to explain it. The reasons are obvious.
hgggghhhhhhhh
!!!!
Kandi was very skeptical about whether or not those girls were even sincere about it and i don?t blame here. Seems awfully convenient that after a decade, you?re all of a sudden contrite and realize ?oh wow that was kinda fucked up lolz?
That girl basically went on a radio tour just to make Kandi look a certain way. Ch
Then to get on Watch what happens live and pretend like you don?t even really remember wtf you did and said, that was triple insulting. That had to be the final damn straw
Lazarus was lashed thoroughly in here
Quote from: Lazarus on January 25, 2018, 02:21:04 PM
Quote from: Genesis on January 25, 2018, 01:50:39 PM
Yall still in here gassing up Mya while the rest of the universe forgot about her?
Xscape>>> :plzstop:
v
Who in here was gassing up Mya? :dead:
This girl is the MOST bitter bird I've ever encountered :kii:
Quote from: 1RIG on January 25, 2018, 02:45:14 PM
Quote from: Afro on January 25, 2018, 12:51:03 PM
It's totally reasonable for her to be scared to flop in a time when everything becomes an event via social media.
Haha! Xscape did 2K in pure sales! LMAO!
She's made her money, and doesn't want to invest her time in something that won't result in a return of investment. At least touring is guaranteed money - I see why she hopped on that a bit. But doing an entire album when she has other business ventures to tend to that are putting money in her pocket?
And on top of that, doing an album with gorls who happily slandered her name but are now eating humble pie since they're not quite in the situation she's in financially and in life? Yeah, kwee said no thanks and I see why.
She really didn't even have to explain it. The reasons are obvious.
hgggghhhhhhhh
!!!!
Kandi was very skeptical about whether or not those girls were even sincere about it and i don?t blame here. Seems awfully convenient that after a decade, you?re all of a sudden contrite and realize ?oh wow that was kinda fucked up lolz?
That girl basically went on a radio tour just to make Kandi look a certain way. Ch
Then to get on Watch what happens live and pretend like you don?t even really remember wtf you did and said, that was triple insulting. That had to be the final damn straw
tears
When u do clownery ..
The final laugh is always the most satisfying. :woohoo:
Quote from: Scott. on January 25, 2018, 02:48:42 PM
Quote from: 1RIG on January 25, 2018, 02:45:14 PM
Quote from: Afro on January 25, 2018, 12:51:03 PM
It's totally reasonable for her to be scared to flop in a time when everything becomes an event via social media.
Haha! Xscape did 2K in pure sales! LMAO!
She's made her money, and doesn't want to invest her time in something that won't result in a return of investment. At least touring is guaranteed money - I see why she hopped on that a bit. But doing an entire album when she has other business ventures to tend to that are putting money in her pocket?
And on top of that, doing an album with gorls who happily slandered her name but are now eating humble pie since they're not quite in the situation she's in financially and in life? Yeah, kwee said no thanks and I see why.
She really didn't even have to explain it. The reasons are obvious.
hgggghhhhhhhh
!!!!
Kandi was very skeptical about whether or not those girls were even sincere about it and i don?t blame here. Seems awfully convenient that after a decade, you?re all of a sudden contrite and realize ?oh wow that was kinda fucked up lolz?
That girl basically went on a radio tour just to make Kandi look a certain way. Ch
Then to get on Watch what happens live and pretend like you don?t even really remember wtf you did and said, that was triple insulting. That had to be the final damn straw
!!!
Exactly Bruv
Kandi a smart bitch. Wasting time and money to record a album no one will buy
Quote from: Lazarus on January 25, 2018, 02:31:54 PM
Quote from: AYR on January 25, 2018, 02:29:20 PM
Quote from: Lazarus on January 25, 2018, 02:21:04 PM
Quote from: Genesis on January 25, 2018, 01:50:39 PM
Yall still in here gassing up Mya while the rest of the universe forgot about her?
Xscape>>> :plzstop:
v
Who in here was gassing up Mya? :dead:
Sle kinda tried her and I brought up Her Grammy nod
I think that is what has her fuming
That was Fresh, btw.
:guys: