?Don?t Make This About Mo?Nique? Iyanla Weighs In On Comedienne?s Call For Netflix Boycott
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As someone who?s had a falling out with an individual (Oprah) and company (Harpo) over feeling as though she wasn?t getting her just due (her own show), we asked Iyanla Vanzant to weigh in on the controversy and the mixed reactions to Mo?Nique?s fight for equality and, in her opinion, this situation is much bigger than the comedienne.
?Why are we surprised that she?s asking people to acknowledge that they diminish and demean us?? Iyanla asked when we requested she speak on the situation. ?They do it every day. The president of the country relegated us to the sh-thole, so why are we surprised at this? The question becomes what are we going to do about it??
The life coach?s point is valid since, although some feel Mo?Nique wasn?t necessarily deserving of more pay, we know equal pay for Black women is still very much an issue in Hollywood and beyond.
?Mo?Nique can?t fight that battle by herself and people will not stand up for the battle or not stand up for the cause because it?s Mo?Nique, well, it didn?t start with Mo?Nique. So either we?re going to do it or we?re not, but don?t make this about Mo?Nique. It?s not about Mo?Nique. Mo?Nique is just saying what other people have refused to say,? Iyanla added.
Speaking to pay disparities across the diaspora, Iyanla continued to point out reasons why Monique deserves our support.
?Number one, we keep acting like we?re shocked and surprised that we still living in a racist country when the president can talk about bad hombres and sh-thole countries, what is that? Why aren?t we doing something about that right there? The mere fact that brown people in this country, that we have relegated to Mexicans and we forget about Dominicans and Salvadoreans and Panamanians and all the cocoa brown people that he called bad hombres, we know that they get paid less than everybody else. So if we let them pay the brown people less, why do we think they won?t pay the Black people less? I don?t understand.?
As valid a point as that is, what continues to be called into question is whether Mo?Nique was offered less money by Netflix because she?s Black and a woman or if $500,000 was fair given her relevance and resume. What do you think?
Do you think Iyanla is right when she says this battle isn?t really about Mo?Nique?
http://madamenoire.com/1016941/dont-make-this-about-monique-iyanla-weighs-in-on-comediennes-call-for-netflix-boycott/
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So basically Mo'nique is not the woman to be spearheading this mess.
And I agree because the comparisons she made between herself and Dave Chapelle/Chris Rock put a load of cum on her campaign's mug.
They should boycott iyanla until she finishes her psychology bachelor
Quote from: hai class. on March 06, 2018, 07:16:45 PM
So basically Mo'nique is not the woman to be spearheading this mess.
And I agree because the comparisons she made between herself and Dave Chapelle/Chris Rock put a load of cum on her campaign's mug.
My fucking point for WEEKS now.
:melmel:
?Mo?Nique can?t fight that battle by herself and people will not stand up for the battle or not stand up for the cause because it?s Mo?Nique, well, it didn?t start with Mo?Nique. So either we?re going to do it or we?re not, but don?t make this about Mo?Nique. It?s not about Mo?Nique. Mo?Nique is just saying what other people have refused to say,? Iyanla added.
THIS FUCKING QUEEN.
Kii.
:ohwow:
When white people when an Oscar, they immediately make $20 million per movie. When blacks win, they don?t see half of that.
MoNiques resume warrants more than $500,000 especially considering she couldn?t do another comedy special of use the footage for at least 2 years and Netflix got the first opportunity at her next comedy special and could lowball her even if another company offered her more.
We rush to stand behind the white girls, but say a woman who has been doing comedy for almost 30 years and who has an Oscar isn?t with a few million?
Her mistake was asking black peope to boycott and not having a white manager. Black people always believe a white manager legitimizes shit.
Exactly. People are so conditioned to protest and beg for acceptance instead of taking matters in their own hands
Monique aint backing down to the white devil and doesnt care if it costs her career (which it will)
That?s admirable.
Quote from: brocka4life on March 06, 2018, 07:34:07 PM
When white people when an Oscar, they immediately make $20 million per movie. When blacks win, they don?t see half of that.
MoNiques resume warrants more than $500,000 especially considering she couldn?t do another comedy special of use the footage for at least 2 years and Netflix got the first opportunity at her next comedy special and could lowball her even if another company offered her more.
We rush to stand behind the white girls, but say a woman who has been doing comedy for almost 30 years and who has an Oscar isn?t with a few million?
Her mistake was asking black peope to boycott and not having a white manager. Black people always believe a white manager legitimizes shit.
This alone, is the reason why black people get on my fucking nerves.
I respect your perspective, but I hope YOU don't think like this.
Quote from: ???? on March 06, 2018, 07:36:48 PM
Quote from: brocka4life on March 06, 2018, 07:34:07 PM
When white people when an Oscar, they immediately make $20 million per movie. When blacks win, they don?t see half of that.
MoNiques resume warrants more than $500,000 especially considering she couldn?t do another comedy special of use the footage for at least 2 years and Netflix got the first opportunity at her next comedy special and could lowball her even if another company offered her more.
We rush to stand behind the white girls, but say a woman who has been doing comedy for almost 30 years and who has an Oscar isn?t with a few million?
Her mistake was asking black peope to boycott and not having a white manager. Black people always believe a white manager legitimizes shit.
This alone, is the reason why black people get on my fucking nerves.
I respect your perspective... but man. Do you really think like this?
There are honestly black people alive who think white people legitimize a cause.
The problem is so many based themselves off of white culture or white mainstream America.
Why is it that black people have to use a ?Becky? voice in order to consider themselves ?professional?
Anytime these famous women make their husband/spouse their manager, everybody immediately looks to him to be a vulture or opportunist, especially in the black culture.
If Monique had not called for a boycott, had a white manager and lawyer...like the chick Black Chyna and them have been hiring, people would be taking her more seriously. Instead, people want to point fingers at her husband, their open relationship, her being loud and aggressive; instead of just acknowledging that what she?s fighting for is what a lot of people have been fighting for. You don?t have to like the messenger in order to acknowledge that the message is valid.
I edited my post.
I don't want you to think I don't like you.
What I'm saying is, the message being valid (as in, its whats been going on in our communities for decades) does not mean the message is RIGHT for us to follow.
And until black people (whomever has that perspective) change the way they view the world, we'll always be in this mess. I was not raised to think that way, thankfully. So I approach issues like these in a different way, in my life. Regardless of what the MAJORITY rule is saying.
Quote from: hai class. on March 06, 2018, 07:16:45 PM
So basically Mo'nique is not the woman to be spearheading this mess.
BASICALLY!
It's part of the reason why I cant even bring myself to attack Mo'nique.
Because my mindset says, "forget that bitch"... "this is actually an issue, and I don't want to get LOST in dragging her, forgetting that a real issue exists... let me focus on Viola..."
I'm not saying people can't lash Mo'Nique for her bad behavior. But at some point, let's refocus.
People (black included) would spend more time making memes about her... rather than focusing on a critical issue that she should not be at the helm of.
You know what I mean?
Quote from: Vonc2002 on March 06, 2018, 07:58:58 PM
Quote from: hai class. on March 06, 2018, 07:16:45 PM
So basically Mo'nique is not the woman to be spearheading this mess.
BASICALLY!
They said the same thing about Malcolm X.
Quote from: brocka4life on March 06, 2018, 08:00:34 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on March 06, 2018, 07:58:58 PM
Quote from: hai class. on March 06, 2018, 07:16:45 PM
So basically Mo'nique is not the woman to be spearheading this mess.
BASICALLY!
They said the same thing about Malcolm X.
f
Are u comparing Malcolm X to Monique :dead:
Quote from: ???? on March 06, 2018, 08:00:15 PM
It's part of the reason why I cant even bring myself to attack Mo'nique.
Because my mindset says, "forget that bitch"... "this is actually an issue, and I don't want to get LOST in dragging her, forgetting that a real issue exists... let me focus on Viola..."
I'm not saying people can't lash Mo'Nique for her bad behavior. But at some point, let's refocus.
People (black included) would spend more time making memes about her... rather than focusing on a critical issue that she should not be at the helm of.
You know what I mean?
I think we actually agree we just have different ways of wording it.
I hate that people reduced what she said to a meme. It?s self-hate to a certain degree.
Same way I see people making jokes about Kobe winning the Oscar instead of just congratulating his accomplishment.
Everybody was voicing their opinion bout equal pay when it came to the white lady and E! Someone has to speak up. Viola Davis and Octavia Spencer win awards anc aren?t getting 25% of what their white female counterparts are getting.
are we really comparing this lady asking for a bigger paycheck to civil rights icons who were fighting to get black folks the right to vote?
you niggas have lost it
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So basically , Monique was right .
#IStandWithQueenMonique
Quote from: ANIMMAI on March 06, 2018, 08:04:30 PM
are we really comparing this lady asking for a bigger paycheck to civil rights icons who were fighting to get black folks the right to vote?
you niggas have lost it
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sjnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
Can we make it make fuckin sense
Quote from: Vonc2002 on March 06, 2018, 08:02:30 PM
Quote from: brocka4life on March 06, 2018, 08:00:34 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on March 06, 2018, 07:58:58 PM
Quote from: hai class. on March 06, 2018, 07:16:45 PM
So basically Mo'nique is not the woman to be spearheading this mess.
BASICALLY!
They said the same thing about Malcolm X.
f
Are u comparing Malcolm X to Monique :dead:
You are missing the point. Somehow I knew that would be your response.
It?s called an example. They said Malcolm wasn?t the right person for the message because he was too loud and too aggressive. They?re saying similar for Monique. Both still had very valid messages.
That was the point. Why must everything be reduced to a joke or a ?dead?? That?s part of the point. People don?t take serious issues seriously.
Is equal pay/pay equity not a civil right?
Nvm, I?m done in here. I just remembered why I rarely engage in serious discussion on this board.
Next caller!
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Mo?Nique X has the girls enraged
Quote from: ANIMMAI on March 06, 2018, 08:04:30 PM
are we really comparing this lady asking for a bigger paycheck to civil rights icons who were fighting to get black folks the right to vote?
you niggas have lost it
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Equal pay is just as important as voting.
wow shes rite
It?s more important
Quote from: Freeruu on March 06, 2018, 08:08:56 PM
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Sorry but this is exactly why blm failed
Yall really pick and choose whats imporant to black people :dead:
The way people in here are just brushing this shit off :uhh:
Quote from: Annie on March 06, 2018, 07:17:18 PM
They should boycott iyanla until she finishes her psychology bachelor
:plzstop:
BLM failed?
Quote from: Genesis on March 06, 2018, 07:36:09 PM
Exactly. People are so conditioned to protest and beg for acceptance instead of taking matters in their own hands
Monique aint backing down to the white devil and doesnt care if it costs her career (which it will)
That?s admirable.
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how so?
Preach 'yan'!
Its very admirable that monique is this fearless while continuously approaching the machine
Shes not easily bought and sold (that could be a slave reference) for the convenience of not stirring the pot or the threat of being mocked or labeled. I dont know why calling for a boycott is the issue. You guys have said repeatedly its a numbers game well wouldnt stopping their revenue in some fashion affect their bottom line and make you take a second look? How else do u assert ur influence a stystem that only knows dollar signs and greed?
If u disagree with the boycott do not boycott if u are saying u agree with her then stand with her
I thonk part of a revelation that monique is dealing with is that depite how fearless she is others are not there and they will easily capitulate to an oprah a netflix and abc a harvey weinstein a tyler perry if backed in a corner and the unwritten threat of being a whistleblower
Octavia spencer said nothing
Wanda said nothing
And a few more said nothing
Untill monique boldly proclaimed this what hapoebed and ppul ahd meetoo moments
(Before u run to prove the date and time somone said something in regards to it save it)
U say u can take the same message from viola
But shes not saying boycott the network shes on or the film comoanies that low balled her
What good is complaining without a call to action
Monique is following the footsteps our our civil rights leaders to stop boycott and march
Ppul think because its netflix and not segregation that the issie is more trivial than it is
Its not
v Mo?Nique made it about Mo?Nique
& don?t she work for Oprah? Id tread lightly
Quote from: hai class. on March 06, 2018, 07:16:45 PM
So basically Mo'nique is not the woman to be spearheading this mess.
And I agree because the comparisons she made between herself and Dave Chapelle/Chris Rock put a load of cum on her campaign's mug.
And, again, no one ever disputed much of Mo?niques point about Hollywood being sexist and racist. She tried giving us history lessons about that and proceeded to reach back into slavery like we don?t know this :dead: It?s her fault that she made it about herself and NetFlix. that?s when it became easy to shit on her argument
Cuz if we?re being honest, she doesn?t give a shit about what others are making as long as NetFlix n them cough up that coin for HER. Iyanla is off base
Quote from: TheNextLew on March 06, 2018, 11:56:40 PM
Monique is following the footsteps our our civil rights leaders to stop boycott and march
Ppul think because its netflix and not segregation that the issie is more trivial than it is
Its not
Are you really gonna sit up and compare her to prominent civil rights leaders? Because it?s not the same at all. She?s targeting NetFlix. She didn?t tell us to boycott anything but them, and that?s because she wants HER coin.
NetFlix is giving African American women jobs left and right at this point. I?m still searching for the racism on their part since that?s who she focused on to begin with. She started bringing everyone and everything else into the picture after she saw that no one was jumping to her defense.
Quote from: Eternal Bell on March 06, 2018, 08:21:51 PM
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Quote from: 1RIG on March 07, 2018, 01:38:06 AM
Quote from: TheNextLew on March 06, 2018, 11:56:40 PM
Monique is following the footsteps our our civil rights leaders to stop boycott and march
Ppul think because its netflix and not segregation that the issie is more trivial than it is
Its not
Are you really gonna sit up and compare her to prominent civil rights leaders? Because it?s not the same at all. She?s targeting NetFlix. She didn?t tell us to boycott anything but them, and that?s because she wants HER coin.
NetFlix is giving African American women jobs left and right at this point. I?m still searching for the racism on their part since that?s who she focused on to begin with. She started bringing everyone and everything else into the picture after she saw that no one was jumping to her defense.
Yes i am the gender bias and color bias she mentioned is still present
Business is still being done with blacks yes and i guess thats the only thing that matters to an oppressed people but it also matters that they are treated a bit more fairly and paid what they are worth
U agree the offer was low
U agree she should get more
U dont have a problem with amy renegotiating
She is not a lawyer is she supposed to legally represent all the others that were lowballed ? Or else her claim is just shot down to her just wanting money and not
Caring about the issue of inequality?
Shes spoken very candidly about this issue before
And she also called for a boycott of united airlines when they treated her the way they did
So she has a history of speaking out when there was nothing to gain
Just as shes doing now
Which is why shes doing what our cicil rights leaders have done to get results on the issue of inequality
Boycott
:plzstop:
Quote from: 1RIG on March 07, 2018, 01:38:06 AM
Quote from: TheNextLew on March 06, 2018, 11:56:40 PM
Monique is following the footsteps our our civil rights leaders to stop boycott and march
Ppul think because its netflix and not segregation that the issie is more trivial than it is
Its not
Are you really gonna sit up and compare her to prominent civil rights leaders? Because it?s not the same at all. She?s targeting NetFlix. She didn?t tell us to boycott anything but them, and that?s because she wants HER coin.
NetFlix is giving African American women jobs left and right at this point. I?m still searching for the racism on their part since that?s who she focused on to begin with. She started bringing everyone and everything else into the picture after she saw that no one was jumping to her defense.
this !!!
Everything you said
Quote from: AYR on March 07, 2018, 06:35:27 AM
Quote from: 1RIG on March 07, 2018, 01:38:06 AM
Quote from: TheNextLew on March 06, 2018, 11:56:40 PM
Monique is following the footsteps our our civil rights leaders to stop boycott and march
Ppul think because its netflix and not segregation that the issie is more trivial than it is
Its not
Are you really gonna sit up and compare her to prominent civil rights leaders? Because it?s not the same at all. She?s targeting NetFlix. She didn?t tell us to boycott anything but them, and that?s because she wants HER coin.
NetFlix is giving African American women jobs left and right at this point. I?m still searching for the racism on their part since that?s who she focused on to begin with. She started bringing everyone and everything else into the picture after she saw that no one was jumping to her defense.
this !!!
Everything you said
Employing blacks doesnt erase racism
Nor does it guarantee fair treament and pay
That agrument is late
giving Mo?Nique a low offer doesn?t constitute racism
THAT argument is later
Quote from: AYR on March 07, 2018, 08:21:29 AM
giving Mo?Nique a low offer doesn?t constitute racism
THAT argument is later
She said there color Bias and gender bias
And thats the entertainment industry period
So having ppul of color does not exclude the bias being there
The color bias was her vs amy
The gender bias is the men and amy and monique beinng offered less period
So it was never a netflix is racist because they didnt pay me well enough
Netflix is participating in fhe industry wide boys club first and women second mentality