What happened? :ohwow:
Sis held her own against Bey. Bitch was winning 4, 5 Grammys a night and going 4, 5x platinum and sitting at the top of the Hot 100 for weeks at a time.
Her whole facade that she had cultivated which gave her a career in the first place was shattered.
All because she wanted Swizz Beats peen. I hope it was worth it. :helloimangie:
Its like even her voice took hit. was the cack that good? :shannonsmissing:
dfghng i hate this board dzserferge
Yeah it's strange how the convo went From Alicia, Rih and Bey, to Rih Bey and Nicki
Quote from: CarseyWerner on October 30, 2015, 05:48:14 AM
Yeah it's strange how the convo went From Alicia, Rih and Bey, to Rih Bey and Nicki
NICKI?!
y'all truly give that girl tooooooo much. She's doing her thing yes, but ch....
she's not anywhere near any of those 3's success...
Quote from: Mel. on October 30, 2015, 07:14:17 AM
Quote from: CarseyWerner on October 30, 2015, 05:48:14 AM
Yeah it's strange how the convo went From Alicia, Rih and Bey, to Rih Bey and Nicki
NICKI?!
y'all truly give that girl tooooooo much. She's doing her thing yes, but ch....
she's not anywhere near any of those 3's success...
!!!! :plzstop:
Quote from: Mel. on October 30, 2015, 07:14:17 AM
Quote from: CarseyWerner on October 30, 2015, 05:48:14 AM
Yeah it's strange how the convo went From Alicia, Rih and Bey, to Rih Bey and Nicki
NICKI?!
y'all truly give that girl tooooooo much. She's doing her thing yes, but ch....
she's not anywhere near any of those 3's success...
Maybe not in terms of stats, but she's only other it Black girl. She kinda snatched Ci's spot.
and it was never Bey, Rih, and Alicia
Alicia wasn't that hot when Rih blew up
It's more like Bey, Ashanti & Alicia
then Bey, Rih, Nicki and Lyndriette
Lyn who?
Quote from: Baphomet. on October 30, 2015, 05:10:23 AM
Her whole facade that she had cultivated which gave her a career in the first place was shattered.
All because she wanted Swizz Beats peen. I hope it was worth it. :helloimangie:
n,
Laundromat was a thing? :shannonsmissing:
Rih was always Bey's biggest thread.
Just the mention of her name gets the hive all well.....riled the fuck up! :cheerup:
You can say one thing about her, and they'll immediately move to discredit it. :dead: (as a few of them will to this very post :supluv: )
Nnnn
I'm clearly joking
but GODriette>>>>>
still on her way to being the next "Beyonc?"
Never liked her but I thought she was gonna be prominent for years to come. She plummeted awfully fast.
Her music started to become terrible.
She flopped because somewhere during The Element of Freedom she started to get bad press then there were though performances of her trying to be a pop star and mess. Ugh. This alber was her best.
Neo soul is dead on mainstream radio (unless you are white) and she couldnt adapt.
Quote from: Genesis on October 30, 2015, 11:27:14 AM
Neo soul is dead on mainstream radio (unless you are white) and she couldnt adapt.
Neo Soul has never been alive on mainstream radio :dead: Alicia was always the exception to the rule, but that's cause she was pretty, light skin and for the most part made good music.
I think she fell off cause her music diminished in quality.
d
Licia isn't really Neo Soul in the first place
Element was shaky ground for her, and Larynx on Fire was the nail in the coffin
She could probably make a cute comeback tho
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on October 30, 2015, 11:43:02 AM
Quote from: Genesis on October 30, 2015, 11:27:14 AM
Neo soul is dead on mainstream radio (unless you are white) and she couldnt adapt.
Neo Soul has never been alive on mainstream radio :dead: Alicia was always the exception to the rule, but that's cause she was pretty, light skin and for the most part made good music.
I think she fell off cause her music diminished in quality.
Mary j, erykah badu, jill scott, maxwell, dangelo, lauryn hill, etc were all getting good radio play back then :uhh:
I hope she does make a comeback tho
She's boring. When you have Beyonce who dances, makes entertaining videos and performances while you just sit on a piano.. Hard to compete.
Sounds like she has been making the same songs since 2004
everyone doesn't have to dance tho.
Beyonce isn't the only one that can be out there doing it...
there are different artists for different people.
yall beyonce fans are something else....I tell ya
Quote from: Genesis on October 30, 2015, 11:49:35 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on October 30, 2015, 11:43:02 AM
Quote from: Genesis on October 30, 2015, 11:27:14 AM
Neo soul is dead on mainstream radio (unless you are white) and she couldnt adapt.
Neo Soul has never been alive on mainstream radio :dead: Alicia was always the exception to the rule, but that's cause she was pretty, light skin and for the most part made good music.
I think she fell off cause her music diminished in quality.
Mary j, erykah badu, jill scott, maxwell, dangelo, lauryn hill, etc were all getting good radio play back then :uhh:
Mary doesn't even do Neo-soul, Lauryn didn't have an album out. What radio hit has Erykah had? My point is that these artists weren't exactly lighting up billboard.
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on October 30, 2015, 11:56:22 AM
Quote from: Genesis on October 30, 2015, 11:49:35 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on October 30, 2015, 11:43:02 AM
Quote from: Genesis on October 30, 2015, 11:27:14 AM
Neo soul is dead on mainstream radio (unless you are white) and she couldnt adapt.
Neo Soul has never been alive on mainstream radio :dead: Alicia was always the exception to the rule, but that's cause she was pretty, light skin and for the most part made good music.
I think she fell off cause her music diminished in quality.
Mary j, erykah badu, jill scott, maxwell, dangelo, lauryn hill, etc were all getting good radio play back then :uhh:
Mary doesn't even do Neo-soul, Lauryn didn't have an album out. What radio hit has Erykah had? My point is that these artists weren't exactly lighting up billboard.
Erykah had radio hits. Her biggest hits are Bag Lady and On & On. Bag Lady peaked at No.6 on the Hot 100 and On & On peaked at No.12. Erykah first album went 3x platinum. Her live album 2x platinum. She kinda broke Neo-Soul in a bit.
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on October 30, 2015, 11:56:22 AM
Quote from: Genesis on October 30, 2015, 11:49:35 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on October 30, 2015, 11:43:02 AM
Quote from: Genesis on October 30, 2015, 11:27:14 AM
Neo soul is dead on mainstream radio (unless you are white) and she couldnt adapt.
Neo Soul has never been alive on mainstream radio :dead: Alicia was always the exception to the rule, but that's cause she was pretty, light skin and for the most part made good music.
I think she fell off cause her music diminished in quality.
Mary j, erykah badu, jill scott, maxwell, dangelo, lauryn hill, etc were all getting good radio play back then :uhh:
Mary doesn't even do Neo-soul, Lauryn didn't have an album out. What radio hit has Erykah had? My point is that these artists weren't exactly lighting up billboard.
Her music is soul, its not like contemporary r & b like beyonce or brandy.
Lauryn hasnt dropped an album in years but when she did it was heavily supported.
Erykah had a couple of top 10 hits.
Not saying they were topping charts worldwide but it was much easier to gather hits back then for soul artists.
I still want the "put it in a love song" video. Dumb dyke got upstaged in her own mess and shelved it. :fuming:
Quote from: Mel. on October 30, 2015, 11:55:39 AM
everyone doesn't have to dance tho.
Beyonce isn't the only one that can be out there doing it...
there are different artists for different people.
But Bey kinda, well, covers it ALL so there's really no need for another.
:raycharles2urmess:
Quote from: BowDown on October 30, 2015, 01:57:59 PM
Quote from: Mel. on October 30, 2015, 11:55:39 AM
everyone doesn't have to dance tho.
Beyonce isn't the only one that can be out there doing it...
there are different artists for different people.
But Bey kinda, well, covers it ALL so there's really no need for another.
:raycharles2urmess:
another black girl? :uhh:
that's the shit I'm talkin about
Y'all always pit Bey against every bitch. Meanwhile y'all can have a thousand honkies on ya Spotify playlists without comparing who's the more talented folk singer. The gorls go from Jason Mraz to Ed Sheeran in a heartbeat
just admit you can only tolerate one nigger at a time, and we'll be good
I wanna say everyone realized that her inspirational "mother earth" schtick was a farce as big as her cankles, but she could easily release a Ryan Tedder penned ballad tomorrow and be back in the race.
You're the one nigger I can't tolerate.
I think that thing with her and Swizz and the quality of her music dropping led to her demise
And I don't think they were competition. More like peers. Well one of the few people Bey has acknowledge as a peer.
Alicia needs to just comeback to her old self
And stop yelling on them damn tracks
Every time I think sis has reached a limit she amplifies the recipe and screams louder :dead:
She got a pass with No One
But Girl On Fire was the last straw for me
You're not gonna sit there and YELL at me
But let's get into Alicia's discography shitting bricks on Bey's in terms of quality
Yea lets talk about that! :talisasresume:
Quote from: ........ on October 30, 2015, 09:30:54 AM
Nnnn
I'm clearly joking
but GODriette>>>>>
still on her way to being the next "Beyonc?"
q
she can really sing but that's where it ends
s
has she reached her gofundme goal?
or even a third of it
Alicia is R&B/pop
Dead @ "Neo Soul". Where?
yeah not sure what gen was talking about LOL
Quote from: Bentley! on October 30, 2015, 02:39:59 PM
But let's get into Alicia's discography shitting bricks on Bey's in terms of quality
Yea lets talk about that! :talisasresume:
Sorry, 'licia's discography sucks luv.
Quote from: Bentley! on October 30, 2015, 02:39:59 PM
But let's get into Alicia's discography shitting bricks on Bey's in terms of quality
Yea lets talk about that! :talisasresume:
d
nah
Quote from: RIG on October 30, 2015, 02:46:40 PM
Quote from: ........ on October 30, 2015, 09:30:54 AM
Nnnn
I'm clearly joking
but GODriette>>>>>
still on her way to being the next "Beyonc?"
q
she can really sing but that's where it ends
shes an icon nigger :uhh:
vvvvvv
Quote from: Zankou. on October 30, 2015, 02:56:46 PM
Quote from: Bentley! on October 30, 2015, 02:39:59 PM
But let's get into Alicia's discography shitting bricks on Bey's in terms of quality
Yea lets talk about that! :talisasresume:
d
nah
nnhhjj
She sold 700k+ off of one hit single..
She'll be ok...
Not Alicia & Mary J. being Neo Soul
Isn't Neo-Soul what D'Angelo does? b
she was...that's news to me! Alicia still selling plat albums tho :blush:
Quote from: Zankou. on October 30, 2015, 02:51:32 PM
yeah not sure what gen was talking about LOL
ch. i never do.
tears
why am i reading ppl calling Alicia a flop in this thread when the bitch doesn't even have a flop album :uhh:
Well... Going from Multi-Plat to just scraping a Gold plaque.
in just a matter of a decade...........
well a flop is someone who albums who doesn't get RIAA certified....like some of these faves some of these in here stan for (http://www.awesomelyluvvie.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/sipsdrink.gif) besides selling 755,000 copies in this climate is still impressive for her
Quote from: Kaeli. on October 30, 2015, 03:53:54 PM
Not Alicia & Mary J. being Neo Soul
Yeah. Because Alicia and Mary are known for giving club anthems and incorporate urban pop into their music. :uhh:
n
Quote from: Zankou. on October 30, 2015, 02:51:32 PM
yeah not sure what gen was talking about LOL
Yeah when it comes to me its always a damn problem.
Im just talkin out my ass huh
http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/79457/old-soul-alicia-keys-sets-off-rb-buzz?mobile_redirection=false
Quote from: Genesis on October 30, 2015, 04:22:59 PM
Quote from: Kaeli. on October 30, 2015, 03:53:54 PM
Not Alicia & Mary J. being Neo Soul
Yeah. Because Alicia and Mary are known for giving club anthems and incorporate urban pop into their music. :uhh:
Mary is
Real Love
Happy
Family Affair
I Can Love You
etc
Alicia makes shitty music. But Bey still playing catch up
Mary is not fckn neo soul. Alicia yeah
Gen hun whatcha talking about?
Mary ain't neo soul tho Gen
Mary j makes the same music as Rihanna
Mary was never known for making soul music. Only top 40 pop dance hits :dead:
:dead: :supluv:
Mary is Hip-Hop Soul
The Queen to be exact
Quote from: ........ on October 30, 2015, 04:25:30 PM
Quote from: Genesis on October 30, 2015, 04:22:59 PM
Quote from: Kaeli. on October 30, 2015, 03:53:54 PM
Not Alicia & Mary J. being Neo Soul
Yeah. Because Alicia and Mary are known for giving club anthems and incorporate urban pop into their music. :uhh:
Mary is
Real Love
Happy
Family Affair
I Can Love You
etc
Family affair.
AMistress Keys is not no damn neo-soul artist
tears
25/8, The One, Mr. Wrong, I Can Love Yew, Just Fine, Touch It, Enough Cryin go the fuck off, r u ok?
Alicia Keys is neo soul/R&B/pop.
Quote from: Miranda on October 30, 2015, 04:32:12 PM
25/8, The One, Mr. Wrong, I Can Love Yew, Just Fine, Touch It, Enough Cryin go the fuck off, r u ok?
Thats not what shes known for tho
Thats why most of those songs flopped
Lol she really isn't.
Mary and Alicia just don't fit the neo-soul mess y'all speak of
Dem other sluts yew done been with, nunna dem got nothin on me, lemme break it down if ya don't get it...
Ugh sing Auntie, first time I had ever heard of a "Drake"...
Ugh I used to eat Maury's shit ahp!!!
So because she doesn't do EDM, she's a Neo-Soul artist?
girl, gone.
Songs in A Minor and Diary are neo soul down. R u ok, Scott?
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on October 30, 2015, 04:38:30 PM
So because she doesn't do EDM, she's a Neo-Soul artist?
girl, gone.
Mary just doesn't fit the title am sorr
She's R&B/hip hop/soul.
n
Neo soul insinuates an artsy singer-songwriter/instrumentalist tea. Mary is just the voice over some sickening beats.
Quote from: SCOTTland on October 30, 2015, 04:37:37 PM
Lol she really isn't.
Mary and Alicia just don't fit the neo-soul mess y'all speak of
!
Neither Mary nor Alicia are Neo-Soul.
Neo-Soul is Angie Stone & Erykah Badu
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on October 30, 2015, 04:38:30 PM
So because she doesn't do EDM, she's a Neo-Soul artist?
girl, gone.
Mary is known for soul music
Queen of hip hop soul
Not known for contemporary r & b like Brandy or Bey for example
Yall doin the most.
Alicia gave me what I NEEDED
IMO she has more classics than Bey
A woman's worth
If I ain't got you
No one
Fallin
Like you'll never see me again
Unthinkable
Try Sleeping with a broken heart
Fire we make is a masterpiece too
b
You're the one who called her NEO-soul but tbh
Brandy & Bey are definitely influenced by Mary's sound
they would all belong in a similar category IMO
She needs to get back on that R&B wave again
She shat back then
Mary being considered neo soul is like Taylor Swift being considered as a rapper.
"Unheard of!"
:uhh:
http://www.billboard.com/biz/articles/news/record-labels/1538620/backbeat-mary-j-blige-receives-top-honors-at-vibe-medias?mobile_redirection=false
Quote from: Genesis on October 30, 2015, 04:56:32 PM
Mary being considered neo soul is like Taylor Swift being considered as a rapper.
"Unheard of!"
:uhh:
http://www.billboard.com/biz/articles/news/record-labels/1538620/backbeat-mary-j-blige-receives-top-honors-at-vibe-medias?mobile_redirection=false
we said what we said, hun.
LOL!
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on October 30, 2015, 05:06:18 PM
Quote from: Genesis on October 30, 2015, 04:56:32 PM
Mary being considered neo soul is like Taylor Swift being considered as a rapper.
"Unheard of!"
:uhh:
http://www.billboard.com/biz/articles/news/record-labels/1538620/backbeat-mary-j-blige-receives-top-honors-at-vibe-medias?mobile_redirection=false
we said what we said, hun.
LOL!
Doesnt really matter hunny bunches of oats
Billboard agrees with me>>>>
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Quote from: Miranda on October 30, 2015, 04:39:18 PM
Songs in A Minor and Diary are neo soul down. R u ok, Scott?
I'm quite peachy. Is yo ass ok, folk?
d
Did I just hear a gun ?
lijjkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
Quote from: Genesis on October 30, 2015, 04:53:20 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on October 30, 2015, 04:38:30 PM
So because she doesn't do EDM, she's a Neo-Soul artist?
girl, gone.
Mary is known for soul music
Queen of hip hop soul
Not known for contemporary r & b like Brandy or Bey for example
Yall doin the most.
do you know what neo-soul is, beloved?
GENITALS, gor...
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Quote from: RED on October 30, 2015, 04:55:37 PM
Alicia gave me what I NEEDED
IMO she has more classics than Bey
A woman's worth
If I ain't got you
No one
Fallin
Like you'll never see me again
Unthinkable
Try Sleeping with a broken heart
n
Quote from: MelMel on October 30, 2015, 05:20:24 PM
Quote from: RED on October 30, 2015, 04:55:37 PM
Alicia gave me what I NEEDED
IMO she has more classics than Bey
A woman's worth
If I ain't got you
No one
Fallin
Like you'll never see me again
Unthinkable
Try Sleeping with a broken heart
n
ugh go away beestan
drag IT
Quote from: RED on October 30, 2015, 05:21:36 PM
Quote from: MelMel on October 30, 2015, 05:20:24 PM
Quote from: RED on October 30, 2015, 04:55:37 PM
Alicia gave me what I NEEDED
IMO she has more classics than Bey
A woman's worth
If I ain't got you
No one
Fallin
Like you'll never see me again
Unthinkable
Try Sleeping with a broken heart
n
ugh go away beestan
u ok
and fuck u Brandon
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on October 30, 2015, 05:19:29 PM
GENITALS, gor...
bitch :plzstop: i almost choked on these m&m's
Alicia had ONE bad era and yall acting like she fell off the planet lol
Not to mention, even in her 1 bad era she STILL HAD a hit song. Let's not go too wild.
Alicia and Bey still go head to head in my eyes. Rihanna was never part of the competition to me on the sense that she isn't nearly up to par in the talent category and only has 1 #1 album.
Never saw them as competition tbh. Two different lanes.
Quote from: RED on October 30, 2015, 04:55:37 PM
Alicia gave me what I NEEDED
IMO she has more classics than Bey
A woman's worth
If I ain't got you
No one
Fallin
Like you'll never see me again
Unthinkable
Try Sleeping with a broken heart
crying. its even more obvious that she's pop/R&B like everyone else when you start naming the songs :dead: :dead: :dead: WHERE is the neo soul?
she's just boring overall, so y'all lump her in that. n
Mary as Neo soul? :kii: im convinced he just likes to argue
idc what the hell someone wrote. Her music is Hip Hop/R&B and always has been :dead: all you have to do is LISTEN hun
Who said Mary is neo soul? :uhh:
Quote from: whatever on October 30, 2015, 03:48:47 PM
She sold 700k+ off of one hit single..
She'll be ok...
I'm over here screaming @ the gors acting like 'Licia is some flop. :plzstop: yet for some odd reason they think their flop fave stands a chance :ohwow: :uhh:
Its funny how people use certain sources as reciepts only when it works in their favor.
Billboard?! :kii:
Quote from: M ? R G ? on October 30, 2015, 10:31:19 AM
She flopped because somewhere during The Element of Freedom she started to get bad press then there were though performances of her trying to be a pop star and mess. Ugh. This alber was her best.
yeah element of freedom kinda shook me
only album she really put her all into
but that song with bey lol :plzstop:
and then yeah thats when the man steal gate happened with ha
but she bounced back from that tho
the general public
now have iggy adele taylor while gaga drops off the radar
alicia and her piano are played
john legend >>>
Quote from: Genesis on October 30, 2015, 11:51:16 PM
Its funny how people use certain sources as reciepts only when it works in their favor.
Billboard?! :kii:
people typically use Billboard for STATS lol
that was an opinion. what about her SOUND makes her neo soul to you? Like, seriously ... She's been hip hop/soul forever. Are you familiar with the nickname Queen of Hip hop soul, or have u not paid attention to her career?
I could understand if so. Im not a fan either
Quote from: iman on October 30, 2015, 11:45:12 PM
Quote from: whatever on October 30, 2015, 03:48:47 PM
She sold 700k+ off of one hit single..
She'll be ok...
I'm over here screaming @ the gors acting like 'Licia is some flop. :plzstop: yet for some odd reason they think their flop fave stands a chance :ohwow: :uhh:
I think people are more so dragging the quality of her music
She got corny.
Quote from: Genesis on October 30, 2015, 11:51:16 PM
Its funny how people use certain sources as reciepts only when it works in their favor.
Billboard?! :kii:
Idk if you're just doing this for a debate but Mary isn't neo-soul at all. Yes, she has done neo-soul songs in the past when neo-soul was at it's peak but that isn't her sound.
Mary is R&B/Hip-hop soul.
Quote from: ........ on October 30, 2015, 09:11:38 AM
and it was never Bey, Rih, and Alicia
Alicia wasn't that hot when Rih blew up
It's more like Bey, Ashanti & Alicia
then Bey, Rih, Nicki and Lyndriette
!!!
Quote from: Genesis on October 30, 2015, 05:09:50 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on October 30, 2015, 05:06:18 PM
Quote from: Genesis on October 30, 2015, 04:56:32 PM
Mary being considered neo soul is like Taylor Swift being considered as a rapper.
"Unheard of!"
:uhh:
http://www.billboard.com/biz/articles/news/record-labels/1538620/backbeat-mary-j-blige-receives-top-honors-at-vibe-medias?mobile_redirection=false
we said what we said, hun.
LOL!
Doesnt really matter hunny bunches of oats
Billboard agrees with me>>>>
I don't think they were calling her style neo soul. I think they meant her style started something that influenced the neo soul movement. She put soul music together with hip-hop. Then Erykah put hip hop with even older soul music and fused it with jazz. I've never heard of neo soul before Erykah and them came on the scene.
Quote from: Ulysses on October 30, 2015, 06:11:44 PM
Alicia had ONE bad era and yall acting like she fell off the planet lol
Not to mention, even in her 1 bad era she STILL HAD a hit song. Let's not go too wild.
Alicia and Bey still go head to head in my eyes. Rihanna was never part of the competition to me on the sense that she isn't nearly up to par in the talent category and only has 1 #1 album.
bnmn
i b'lieve sum of u do coke
Quote from: Baphomet. on October 30, 2015, 05:15:39 PM
d
Did I just hear a gun ?
DFCGVBNnNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
not a body laid out in a puddle of POOP
Yeah she got predictable and boring..plus I think most of the production was done on the computer while her first albums sounded great because of live instrumentation
Quote from: RIG on October 30, 2015, 11:31:37 PM
Quote from: RED on October 30, 2015, 04:55:37 PM
Alicia gave me what I NEEDED
IMO she has more classics than Bey
A woman's worth
If I ain't got you
No one
Fallin
Like you'll never see me again
Unthinkable
Try Sleeping with a broken heart
crying. its even more obvious that she's pop/R&B like everyone else when you start naming the songs :dead: :dead: :dead: WHERE is the neo soul?
she's just boring overall, so y'all lump her in that. n
jjj is that why this is so long
Who in their right minds would class Alicia as neo soul
that was her whole gimmick when she came out. she gave neo-soul, but was pretty and marketable. nnn
Songs In A Minor is one of the poster child neo soul albums. Live instrumentations, jazzy vocals, self-written "deep" lyrics.
Quote from: RED on October 31, 2015, 07:27:10 AM
Quote from: RIG on October 30, 2015, 11:31:37 PM
Quote from: RED on October 30, 2015, 04:55:37 PM
Alicia gave me what I NEEDED
IMO she has more classics than Bey
A woman's worth
If I ain't got you
No one
Fallin
Like you'll never see me again
Unthinkable
Try Sleeping with a broken heart
crying. its even more obvious that she's pop/R&B like everyone else when you start naming the songs :dead: :dead: :dead: WHERE is the neo soul?
she's just boring overall, so y'all lump her in that. n
jjj is that why this is so long
Who in their right minds would class Alicia as neo soul
who do ya think? :kii:
if alicia was some nappy headed dark skin hefty womans there would be not a singe doubt that her first albums are 100% neo soul.
crying @ Angie Stone being more neo soul than Alicia. nnn
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on October 31, 2015, 09:22:55 AM
Quote from: RED on October 31, 2015, 07:27:10 AM
Quote from: RIG on October 30, 2015, 11:31:37 PM
Quote from: RED on October 30, 2015, 04:55:37 PM
Alicia gave me what I NEEDED
IMO she has more classics than Bey
A woman's worth
If I ain't got you
No one
Fallin
Like you'll never see me again
Unthinkable
Try Sleeping with a broken heart
crying. its even more obvious that she's pop/R&B like everyone else when you start naming the songs :dead: :dead: :dead: WHERE is the neo soul?
she's just boring overall, so y'all lump her in that. n
jjj is that why this is so long
Who in their right minds would class Alicia as neo soul
who do ya think? :kii:
he thinks Khia is talented lol
I don't know why people take him seriously
Khia IS talented. She produces and writes all her albums. And she is the only one to slay independently without any male co-sign. Plus she is 100% natural and consequent to her truth. No surge, no gimmick, no co-sign, just straight up talent and grind.
:dead:
Quote from: Trey on October 30, 2015, 11:57:32 PM
She got corny.
Yh 'Girl On Fire' is one of the most horrible songs I've ever heard
She needs to go that commerical R&B sound
She was soooooooo pretty when she first came out
(http://assets.rollingstone.com/assets/2001/article/alicia-keys-20011206/181401/large_rect/1421427639/1401x788-alicia.jpg)
Quote from: RED on October 31, 2015, 07:27:10 AM
Quote from: RIG on October 30, 2015, 11:31:37 PM
Quote from: RED on October 30, 2015, 04:55:37 PM
Alicia gave me what I NEEDED
IMO she has more classics than Bey
A woman's worth
If I ain't got you
No one
Fallin
Like you'll never see me again
Unthinkable
Try Sleeping with a broken heart
crying. its even more obvious that she's pop/R&B like everyone else when you start naming the songs :dead: :dead: :dead: WHERE is the neo soul?
she's just boring overall, so y'all lump her in that. n
jjj is that why this is so long
Who in their right minds would class Alicia as neo soul
Alicia actually gets classified as a neo soul artist all the time. I always thought she was way more pop than the other artists in the neo soul category. I could never see India Arie or Angie Stone sing the Kandi penned Jane Doe the way Alicia did. Songs of A Minor is half pop songs and half soul songs. But it's always hard to put people directly into a little box with a label on it. I understand why they said she's neo soul. She played her own instrument and she took from old soul acts to come up with some of her songs.
Bey and Alicia are two completely different artists, dont see why one would outshine the other, if their music/lane was so different
Quote from: Miranda on October 31, 2015, 09:34:51 AM
Khia IS talented. She produces and writes all her albums. And she is the only one to slay independently without any male co-sign. Plus she is 100% natural and consequent to her truth. No surge, no gimmick, no co-sign, just straight up talent and grind.
:receipts:
woww u kinda right
Quote from: Miranda on October 31, 2015, 09:29:38 AM
if alicia was some nappy headed dark skin hefty womans there would be not a singe doubt that her first albums are 100% neo soul.
ur gonna look at her singles released and tell me that's neo soul? n
Quote from: Mel. on October 30, 2015, 11:55:39 AM
everyone doesn't have to dance tho.
Beyonce isn't the only one that can be out there doing it...
there are different artists for different people.
And yet Alicia tried to anyway. :ohwow:
Quote from: Miranda on October 31, 2015, 09:13:21 AM
Songs In A Minor is one of the poster child neo soul albums. Live instrumentations, jazzy vocals, self-written "deep" lyrics.
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Some songs are. Some aren't. Girlfriends, Jane Doe and Mr. Man aren't even close to being neo soul, IMO. Then some of the ballads like Troubles, Goodbye, and Butterflyz are just as easily adult contemporary pop as adult contemporary r&b. I had that album and, while I understood them limping her in to the neo soul category, I thought her music was much more pop and mainstream than what most of the other neo soul artists were doing.
Quote from: Drais. on November 01, 2015, 02:35:06 PM
Quote from: Mel. on October 30, 2015, 11:55:39 AM
everyone doesn't have to dance tho.
Beyonce isn't the only one that can be out there doing it...
there are different artists for different people.
And yet Alicia tried to anyway.
:ohwow:
dffdfdffd where is that gif of her walking onto the stage
Quote from: MelMel on November 01, 2015, 03:05:32 PM
Quote from: Drais. on November 01, 2015, 02:35:06 PM
Quote from: Mel. on October 30, 2015, 11:55:39 AM
everyone doesn't have to dance tho.
Beyonce isn't the only one that can be out there doing it...
there are different artists for different people.
And yet Alicia tried to anyway.
:ohwow:
dffdfdffd where is that gif of her walking onto the stage
!!!
:dead: :dead: :dead: :dead: :dead: :dead: :dead: :dead: :dead: :dead:
Quote from: MelMel on November 01, 2015, 03:05:32 PM
Quote from: Drais. on November 01, 2015, 02:35:06 PM
Quote from: Mel. on October 30, 2015, 11:55:39 AM
everyone doesn't have to dance tho.
Beyonce isn't the only one that can be out there doing it...
there are different artists for different people.
And yet Alicia tried to anyway.
:ohwow:
dffdfdffd where is that gif of her walking onto the stage
OMG I've been lookin for it for the longest! :kii:
Quote from: MelMel on November 01, 2015, 03:05:32 PM
Quote from: Drais. on November 01, 2015, 02:35:06 PM
Quote from: Mel. on October 30, 2015, 11:55:39 AM
everyone doesn't have to dance tho.
Beyonce isn't the only one that can be out there doing it...
there are different artists for different people.
And yet Alicia tried to anyway.
:ohwow:
dffdfdffd where is that gif of her walking onto the stage
ddddddxcxxxcdfffff
Quote from: RIG on November 01, 2015, 02:27:30 PM
Quote from: Miranda on October 31, 2015, 09:29:38 AM
if alicia was some nappy headed dark skin hefty womans there would be not a singe doubt that her first albums are 100% neo soul.
ur gonna look at her singles released and tell me that's neo soul? n
First two albums absolutely.
Girlfriend, A Woman's Worth, You Don't Know My Name, Diary...
That was not mainstream R&B ? la Ashanti, Beyonc?, Brandy at the time. And it wasn't gutter&B like Mary or Lil Mo either. She was giving India.Arie music with a sexy body and light skin.
Ugh that debut is IT.
Mr. Man, Girlfriend, Never Felt This Way, Butterflyz, Jane Doe, Troubles, Fallin, A Woman's Worth, Mr. FUCKING MAN....
Better than any Bey album tbh
Quote from: Miranda on November 01, 2015, 04:36:29 PM
Quote from: RIG on November 01, 2015, 02:27:30 PM
Quote from: Miranda on October 31, 2015, 09:29:38 AM
if alicia was some nappy headed dark skin hefty womans there would be not a singe doubt that her first albums are 100% neo soul.
ur gonna look at her singles released and tell me that's neo soul? n
First two albums absolutely.
Girlfriend, A Woman's Worth, You Don't Know My Name, Diary...
That was not mainstream R&B ? la Ashanti, Beyonc?, Brandy at the time. And it wasn't gutter&B like Mary or Lil Mo either. She was giving India.Arie music with a sexy body and light skin.
Girlfriend is a typical contepmary r&b song, to me. It was produced by JD and sounded like it.
Her jazzy vocal approach, the organic instrumentation, the witty lyrics. Bey, Bran, Ashanti, Lil Mo, Keyshia would have never put out sth. like "Girlfriend". This is more in the vain of D'Angelo, Jill Scott. It has crossover appeal, but Alicia's whole esthetic was very much in the neo soul vein.
Yeah she ain't no damn neo soul
Quote from: RIG on November 01, 2015, 02:27:30 PM
Quote from: Miranda on October 31, 2015, 09:29:38 AM
if alicia was some nappy headed dark skin hefty womans there would be not a singe doubt that her first albums are 100% neo soul.
ur gonna look at her singles released and tell me that's neo soul? n
nnnnnnnn
licia was primarily pop tbh nnnn
definitely r&b, but she had a pop crossover appeal.
Quote from: garlic on November 02, 2015, 06:33:26 AM
licia was primarily pop tbh nnnn
definitely r&b, but she had a pop crossover appeal.
my song
:loose2when:
Yh her first two projects are quintessential to neo soul
Quote from: Drais. on November 01, 2015, 02:35:06 PM
Quote from: Mel. on October 30, 2015, 11:55:39 AM
everyone doesn't have to dance tho.
Beyonce isn't the only one that can be out there doing it...
there are different artists for different people.
And yet Alicia tried to anyway.
:ohwow:
sdsddddddddddss
What is this
She should never try to dance
Songs in A Minor & Diary are her best albums