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QuoteAn Arkansas man admitted in court that he intentionally contracted HIV so he could spread the virus to others, according to reports.
Stephen Koch, 25, pleaded guilty on Monday to attempting to expose another person to HIV, the Northwest Arkansas Democrat-Gazette reported. He also pleaded guilty to possession of methamphetamine with intent to deliver and eight counts of child pornography.
Arkansas police originally arrested Koch on drug charges, but a confidential informant then told authorities that he was viewing child porn, according to the Gazette.
During a search of his computer, prosecutors discovered Koch had recently contracted HIV and was actively plotting to infect others with the virus.
Prosecutors told Circuit Judge Robin Green that Koch had plans to go on a double date, where he would lie about his HIV status.
In court, Koch admitted to his crimes and said his actions were ?self-destructive,? according to the Gazette.
When the judge asked if he intended to hurt other people, Koch responded, ?Yes.?
Koch was sentenced to 50 years in prison. He will also have to register as a sex offender.
https://nypost.com/2018/06/06/man-admits-he-intentionally-contracted-hiv-to-infect-others/
I had already guess it was a honky before I even stepped in hea.
These nasty things
Oh wow look at Drais, they finally caught sus
Why are people so damn evil
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Whew the ghetto
Disgusting shit
Sounds like he had a bug chaser fantasy but he was the infectee.
Typical bug chaser mentality. SMH. Disgusting. Now, he?ll infect the guys in prison.
this mess needa be front page news
these white gays are tha REAL AIDY gorls
Quote from: Fairy Aid Mother on June 07, 2018, 02:28:08 PM
this mess needa be front page news
these white gays are tha REAL AIDY gorls
!!!!
I just...
Quote from: Fairy Aid Mother on June 07, 2018, 02:28:08 PM
this mess needa be front page news
these white gays are tha REAL AIDY gorls
Nnnnn. They never disclosed his sexual orientation or the sex of his future victims. I'm guessing straight because straight white men are typically Found guilty of CP, which he admitted to viewing if you read the article.
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Quote from: Baph Lorenzo. on June 07, 2018, 01:58:20 PM
I had already guess it was a honky before I even stepped in hea.
These nasty things
It still should be on the front pages of most news outlets. There have been numerous cases related to HIV and criminality with images of Black men being plastered all over the place.
Im not damn clapping even with the jail time.
Quote from: Kurama on June 07, 2018, 03:03:29 PM
It still should be on the front pages of most news outlets. There have been numerous cases related to HIV and criminality with images of Black men being plastered all over the place.
Im not damn clapping even with the jail time.
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There was a similar case here in the U.K recently, it was quite a popular story because it was the first conviction of it's kind here.
Quote from: Kurama on June 07, 2018, 03:03:29 PM
It still should be on the front pages of most news outlets. There have been numerous cases related to HIV and criminality with images of Black men being plastered all over the place.
Im not damn clapping even with the jail time.
I would agree, but someone brought up a good point the other day that struck me. They basically said HIV is mentally ill gay black men?s form of suicide. They basically go out and have reckless sex because they have no regard for their lives and instead of overdosing or taking a bullet to the head or a noose around the neck, that?s how they off themselves. I say all that to say, when you look at it like that, the statistics seem legit. The black gay community is plagued with mental illness, this board has a few tbh, and sex is a coping tool despite how deadly it can be.
Be careful Nick
Does this apply to white gay men as well?
He looks real proud of himself.
nasty white fag!
Quote from: Bulldagger on June 07, 2018, 03:09:16 PM
Quote from: Kurama on June 07, 2018, 03:03:29 PM
It still should be on the front pages of most news outlets. There have been numerous cases related to HIV and criminality with images of Black men being plastered all over the place.
Im not damn clapping even with the jail time.
I would agree, but someone brought up a good point the other day that struck me. They basically said HIV is mentally ill gay black men?s form of suicide. They basically go out and have reckless sex because they have no regard for their lives and instead of overdosing or taking a bullet to the head or a noose around the neck, that?s how they off themselves. I say all that to say, when you look at it like that, the statistics seem legit. The black gay community is plagued with mental illness, this board has a few tbh, and sex is a coping tool despite how deadly it can be.
Although I do agree that self-worth issues definitely come into play when making decisions on whether or not to engage in riskier sexual habits and that a lot of psychosocial factors negatively impact our (Black queer men) mental state , I don't think we can just attribute that to some subconscious need to want to kill ourselves. That would kinda be reductive considering all of the multiple facets (education, resources, culture, accessibility, testing rates, mental health, etc.) that affect HIV contraction rates among Blk men. I also think its important to be aware that HIV isn't a death sentence and most folks who learn of their status get linked into care. They're not out here waiting to waste away.
I agree with the last statement, sex is definitely a coping tool for all of that-for some people. However, that's not exclusive to Black gay men.
Hope they rape that faggot
Not meth and child porn
Quote from: Fairy Aid Mother on June 07, 2018, 02:11:28 PM
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I've been reciting this in real life :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
Quote from: Guilty on June 07, 2018, 03:11:14 PM
Does this apply to white gay men as well?
Gay white men have the resources to treat themselves mentally and their community is far more accepting. Lack of acceptance is largely why a lot of black gay men are mentally ill and most of us don?t have the resources to opt out of homophobia like white gays, for example, starting an all gay company with nothing but white gay employees creating a safe environment or working at jobs that are gay friendly and tolerant of gay people. A lot of black men are ashamed of their own sexuality because they?re shamed for it by their community their whole lives. Carrying a burden like that can make you sick. In most cases, white men are sick because they?ve had too much freedom and have this entitlement complex. That?s not to say they don?t experience homophobia and aren?t dealing with the same things, but it?s certainly not to the same degree as black and brown men. In black and brown communities, gay automatically means less than a person. You are a pariah to a very large degree. You become a thing instead a person. ?Oh, girl, you mean the FAG?! He funny isn?t he?? ?Ooooh girl, look at that fag!? ?That nigga a straight fag.? ?That?s some gay shit, that?s some faggot ass shit.? Who wants to deal with that?
sorry for asking
u know wh....
Quote from: Pearls Khan on June 07, 2018, 03:10:57 PM
Be careful Nick
Shakjsjsbs
He ain't my type lol and like someone else said..it's always a top news story when a black man does this so I'll give you a be careful right back sus
Quote from: Kurama on June 07, 2018, 03:25:54 PM
Quote from: Bulldagger on June 07, 2018, 03:09:16 PM
Quote from: Kurama on June 07, 2018, 03:03:29 PM
It still should be on the front pages of most news outlets. There have been numerous cases related to HIV and criminality with images of Black men being plastered all over the place.
Im not damn clapping even with the jail time.
I would agree, but someone brought up a good point the other day that struck me. They basically said HIV is mentally ill gay black men?s form of suicide. They basically go out and have reckless sex because they have no regard for their lives and instead of overdosing or taking a bullet to the head or a noose around the neck, that?s how they off themselves. I say all that to say, when you look at it like that, the statistics seem legit. The black gay community is plagued with mental illness, this board has a few tbh, and sex is a coping tool despite how deadly it can be.
Although I do agree that self-worth issues definitely come into play when making decisions on whether or not to engage in riskier sexual habits and that a lot of psychosocial factors negatively impact our (Black queer men) mental state , I don't think we can just attribute that to some subconscious need to want to kill ourselves. That would kinda be reductive considering all of the multiple facets (education, resources, culture, accessibility, testing rates, mental health, etc.) that affect HIV contraction rates among Blk men. I also think its important to be aware that HIV isn't a death sentence and most folks who learn of their status get linked into care. They're not out here waiting to waste away.
I agree with the last statement, sex is definitely a coping tool for all of that-for some people. However, that's not exclusive to Black gay men.
You make some very good points, but can gay black men really afford HIV? I mean, monetarily and physically?
Quote from: same ol' nigga from the block on June 07, 2018, 03:42:31 PM
Jesus, 'ulldagger.
I agree with the environment mess. We have a pics from my coworkers gay marriage on the fridge in our break room - with congrats and little love notes from the rest of us. I'm sorry but that just wouldn't be tolerated in a predominately Black setting . Especially if men were running the show.
It's a different world for black gay men. There's a reason why many don't feel included in the "community".
Not accepted by the church, home, and when many of the young gay Black men seek refuge in a gay friendly establishment or setting, they face rejection via racism ... and pretty much have nowhere to turn because there are very few , if any , Black owned establishments of that nature depending on what city you're in.
Exactly! It wouldn?t happen at all in a predominately black work environment and if it did, they would be all types of fags and bulldaggers and teased out of the company. I?ve seen black men get dogged out and questioned for being gay for getting in the car with other male coworkers to take a lunch break. ?I bet you they fucking. I?m sorry, but that?s some gay ass shit.?
I feel saddest for black gay men who aren?t openly gay and clocky because they have no examples and aren?t even promoted in the black community. I mean, having to keep that concealed probably got their insides fucked up.
OT: But have you all noticed that most of the top white male actors have played gay? None of the top black male actors have, I wonder why?
Quote from: same ol' nigga from the block on June 07, 2018, 03:29:46 PM
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Quote from: Bulldagger on June 07, 2018, 03:37:58 PM
Quote from: Guilty on June 07, 2018, 03:11:14 PM
Does this apply to white gay men as well?
Gay white men have the resources to treat themselves mentally and their community is far more accepting. Lack of acceptance is largely why a lot of black gay men are mentally ill and most of us don?t have the resources to opt out of homophobia like white gays, for example, starting an all gay company with nothing but white gay employees creating a safe environment or working at jobs that are gay friendly and tolerant of gay people. A lot of black men are ashamed of their own sexuality because they?re shamed for it by their community their whole lives. Carrying a burden like that can make you sick. In most cases, white men are sick because they?ve had too much freedom and have this entitlement complex. That?s not to say they don?t experience homophobia and aren?t dealing with the same things, but it?s certainly not to the same degree as black and brown men. In black and brown communities, gay automatically means less than a person. You are a pariah to a very large degree. You become a thing instead a person. ?Oh, girl, you mean the FAG?! He funny isn?t he?? ?Ooooh girl, look at that fag!? ?That nigga a straight fag.? ?That?s some gay shit, that?s some faggot ass shit.? Who wants to deal with that?
skjsbacafthscxvvcccccccccccccccccccccccccccc
Quote from: ANIMMAI on June 07, 2018, 04:16:52 PM
Quote from: Bulldagger on June 07, 2018, 03:37:58 PM
Quote from: Guilty on June 07, 2018, 03:11:14 PM
Does this apply to white gay men as well?
Gay white men have the resources to treat themselves mentally and their community is far more accepting. Lack of acceptance is largely why a lot of black gay men are mentally ill and most of us don?t have the resources to opt out of homophobia like white gays, for example, starting an all gay company with nothing but white gay employees creating a safe environment or working at jobs that are gay friendly and tolerant of gay people. A lot of black men are ashamed of their own sexuality because they?re shamed for it by their community their whole lives. Carrying a burden like that can make you sick. In most cases, white men are sick because they?ve had too much freedom and have this entitlement complex. That?s not to say they don?t experience homophobia and aren?t dealing with the same things, but it?s certainly not to the same degree as black and brown men. In black and brown communities, gay automatically means less than a person. You are a pariah to a very large degree. You become a thing instead a person. ?Oh, girl, you mean the FAG?! He funny isn?t he?? ?Ooooh girl, look at that fag!? ?That nigga a straight fag.? ?That?s some gay shit, that?s some faggot ass shit.? Who wants to deal with that?
skjsbacafthscxvvcccccccccccccccccccccccccccc
What the
Is Bull speaking from experience?
The straights were on to something huh
:overit:
Quote from: same ol' nigga from the block on June 07, 2018, 04:22:00 PM
Quote from: Bulldagger on June 07, 2018, 03:51:26 PM
Quote from: same ol' nigga from the block on June 07, 2018, 03:42:31 PM
Jesus, 'ulldagger.
I agree with the environment mess. We have a pics from my coworkers gay marriage on the fridge in our break room - with congrats and little love notes from the rest of us. I'm sorry but that just wouldn't be tolerated in a predominately Black setting . Especially if men were running the show.
It's a different world for black gay men. There's a reason why many don't feel included in the "community".
Not accepted by the church, home, and when many of the young gay Black men seek refuge in a gay friendly establishment or setting, they face rejection via racism ... and pretty much have nowhere to turn because there are very few , if any , Black owned establishments of that nature depending on what city you're in.
Exactly! It wouldn?t happen at all in a predominately black work environment and if it did, they would be all types of fags and bulldaggers and teased out of the company. I?ve seen black men get dogged out and questioned for being gay for getting in the car with other male coworkers to take a lunch break. ?I bet you they fucking. I?m sorry, but that?s some gay ass shit.?
I feel saddest for black gay men who aren?t openly gay and clocky because they have no examples and aren?t even promoted in the black community. I mean, having to keep that concealed probably got their insides fucked up.
OT: But have you all noticed that most of the top white male actors have played gay? None of the top black male actors have, I wonder why?
:guys:
Yeah . It'd be career suicide if Michael B Jordan ever decided to kiss another man in one of his roles.
And that's sad because I'm sure many Black actors would love to have that sort of range and flexibility, and I'm sure some have been tempted to really test the waters, but not everyone's willing to put their careers on the line to make a statement and go against the grain a bit. And I don't blame them one bit for that. Especially not at the height of their career.
And there are so many closeted men who don't know how "clocky" they are. On the inside they feel as if its undetectable and well hidden but have no idea that alarms are ringing everywhere they walk. I feel the saddest for them because they try to suppress their tendencies. It's so evident.
But then you have some who are just really and genuinely masculine. I can understand their frustration with being underrepresented in mainstream media when it comes to the gay community. Every time there's a gay on screen they've gotta be flamboyant, fashionable and shady. It's no wonder that some women (especially Black women) are shocked and fucking dismayed when they finally discover that there are gay men out there who are just as masculine as their heterosexual counterparts.
EXACTLY. That?s why I can?t stomach shows like Pose. I?m sorry it?s an agenda to emasculate gay black men. You can be a strong, black, masculine gay man. Sick of seeing gay men in makeup, wigs and women?s clothing. It?s tired and played the fuck out. I can?t relate. White gays get to be masculine and gay. We have to be Miss Lawerance or a Derrick J.
To Andrais, I haven?t been called those things but I keep my ears to the street and that type of language is all over black social media when it pretains to anything gay or believabley gay like the little toddler twerking I posted the other day.
I still what a CALL ME BY YOUR NAME with Michael B Jordan and TChalla. That would KILL the black community. LMAO.
Quote from: same ol' nigga from the block on June 07, 2018, 04:42:16 PM
Quote from: Bulldagger on June 07, 2018, 04:36:55 PM
Quote from: same ol' nigga from the block on June 07, 2018, 04:22:00 PM
Quote from: Bulldagger on June 07, 2018, 03:51:26 PM
Quote from: same ol' nigga from the block on June 07, 2018, 03:42:31 PM
Jesus, 'ulldagger.
I agree with the environment mess. We have a pics from my coworkers gay marriage on the fridge in our break room - with congrats and little love notes from the rest of us. I'm sorry but that just wouldn't be tolerated in a predominately Black setting . Especially if men were running the show.
It's a different world for black gay men. There's a reason why many don't feel included in the "community".
Not accepted by the church, home, and when many of the young gay Black men seek refuge in a gay friendly establishment or setting, they face rejection via racism ... and pretty much have nowhere to turn because there are very few , if any , Black owned establishments of that nature depending on what city you're in.
Exactly! It wouldn?t happen at all in a predominately black work environment and if it did, they would be all types of fags and bulldaggers and teased out of the company. I?ve seen black men get dogged out and questioned for being gay for getting in the car with other male coworkers to take a lunch break. ?I bet you they fucking. I?m sorry, but that?s some gay ass shit.?
I feel saddest for black gay men who aren?t openly gay and clocky because they have no examples and aren?t even promoted in the black community. I mean, having to keep that concealed probably got their insides fucked up.
OT: But have you all noticed that most of the top white male actors have played gay? None of the top black male actors have, I wonder why?
:guys:
Yeah . It'd be career suicide if Michael B Jordan ever decided to kiss another man in one of his roles.
And that's sad because I'm sure many Black actors would love to have that sort of range and flexibility, and I'm sure some have been tempted to really test the waters, but not everyone's willing to put their careers on the line to make a statement and go against the grain a bit. And I don't blame them one bit for that. Especially not at the height of their career.
And there are so many closeted men who don't know how "clocky" they are. On the inside they feel as if its undetectable and well hidden but have no idea that alarms are ringing everywhere they walk. I feel the saddest for them because they try to suppress their tendencies. It's so evident.
But then you have some who are just really and genuinely masculine. I can understand their frustration with being underrepresented in mainstream media when it comes to the gay community. Every time there's a gay on screen they've gotta be flamboyant, fashionable and shady. It's no wonder that some women (especially Black women) are shocked and fucking dismayed when they finally discover that there are gay men out there who are just as masculine as their heterosexual counterparts.
EXACTLY. That?s why I can?t stomach shows like Pose. I?m sorry it?s an agenda to emasculate gay black men. You can be a strong, black, masculine gay man. Sick of seeing gay men in makeup, wigs and women?s clothing. It?s tired and played the fuck out. I can?t relate. White gays get to be masculine and gay. We have to be Miss Lawerance or a Derrick J.
True. Don't know if I'm 100% there with the "agenda" thing but I definitely see validity in what you're saying.
I'm not even masculine myself and my heart goes out to the masculine gay Black dudes. People are legit surprised to see a masculine gay male with no feminine tendencies or a flair for fashion and shade. You'd think they were an endangered species or something.
It?s def. an agenda. That?s why I no longer consider myself part of the LGBT community. Who do you think is responsible for all of this no labels, non-binary, sexual fluid, gender fluid mess? White LGBT people. LGBT no longer has standards and every day it?s something different. A lot of this shit is creating this animosity. I mean, children don?t even have a sexual orientation yet they?re making non-binary and gender fluid clothes for newborns and children. A lot of that stuff is and was a distraction and fuel to get Trump elected. I mean, I?m all for growth but look at how far the LGBT community has come in just a short period of time. Their advancements are greater than any minority group and POC don?t benefit.
We need more masculine gay brothers because that?s the only way straight black men will relate to us. A straight black gay man can?t relate to EJ Johnson. I don?t even relate to EJ Johnson. If you?re naturally fem, that?s great, but we need some more diversity otherwise black people will continue to look at being gay in a stereotypical way. It?s sad but true.
Quote from: Bulldagger on June 07, 2018, 04:38:32 PM
I still what a CALL ME BY YOUR NAME with Michael B Jordan and TChalla. That would KILL the black community. LMAO.
Yh because Moonlight didn't snatch an Oscar right.
Omg
Quote from: Guilty on June 07, 2018, 06:12:13 PM
Quote from: Bulldagger on June 07, 2018, 04:38:32 PM
I still what a CALL ME BY YOUR NAME with Michael B Jordan and TChalla. That would KILL the black community. LMAO.
Yh because Moonlight didn't snatch an Oscar right.
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That terrible and ghetto movie.
Did "Call Me My Postive Results" win anything? lmao
Didn?t need to in order to be remembered.
No one talks about APElight now :ATLcameo:
Remembered?
Who's talking about "Call Me By Aids" apart from old perverts and reddit twinks?
White fcking devil
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See how that ending blue line is just SLIGHTLY perched about Sootlight?
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Yeah, no one's checking for Call Me By Your AIDS
Quote from: Bulldagger on June 07, 2018, 04:36:55 PM
EXACTLY. That?s why I can?t stomach shows like Pose. I?m sorry it?s an agenda to emasculate gay black men. You can be a strong, black, masculine gay man. Sick of seeing gay men in makeup, wigs and women?s clothing. It?s tired and played the fuck out. I can?t relate. White gays get to be masculine and gay. We have to be Miss Lawerance or a Derrick J.
lfjkdfslj I'm sorry but what? Like, legit, what are you trying to say here because this... makes zero sense?
Sounds more like you're a follower of societal guidelines of masculinity and you're disregarding a massive chunk of queer history that laid the groundwork for modern-day fags to live as freely as they do now.
Quote from: Guilty on June 07, 2018, 06:12:13 PM
Quote from: Bulldagger on June 07, 2018, 04:38:32 PM
I still what a CALL ME BY YOUR NAME with Michael B Jordan and TChalla. That would KILL the black community. LMAO.
Yh because Moonlight didn't snatch an Oscar right.
Quote from: emzen on June 07, 2018, 06:49:26 PM
Quote from: Bulldagger on June 07, 2018, 04:36:55 PM
EXACTLY. That?s why I can?t stomach shows like Pose. I?m sorry it?s an agenda to emasculate gay black men. You can be a strong, black, masculine gay man. Sick of seeing gay men in makeup, wigs and women?s clothing. It?s tired and played the fuck out. I can?t relate. White gays get to be masculine and gay. We have to be Miss Lawerance or a Derrick J.
lfjkdfslj I'm sorry but what? Like, legit, what are you trying to say here because this... makes zero sense?
Sounds more like you're a follower of societal guidelines of masculinity and you're disregarding a massive chunk of queer history that laid the groundwork for modern-day fags to live as freely as they do now.
!!!!!!!
Quote from: emzen on June 07, 2018, 06:49:26 PM
Quote from: Bulldagger on June 07, 2018, 04:36:55 PM
EXACTLY. That?s why I can?t stomach shows like Pose. I?m sorry it?s an agenda to emasculate gay black men. You can be a strong, black, masculine gay man. Sick of seeing gay men in makeup, wigs and women?s clothing. It?s tired and played the fuck out. I can?t relate. White gays get to be masculine and gay. We have to be Miss Lawerance or a Derrick J.
lfjkdfslj I'm sorry but what? Like, legit, what are you trying to say here because this... makes zero sense?
Sounds more like you're a follower of societal guidelines of masculinity and you're disregarding a massive chunk of queer history that laid the groundwork for modern-day fags to live as freely as they do now.
I was about to say
Fem men and trans pretty much fought for the rights we gays have now.
What have masc gay men done for our community? :dead:
Quote from: Andrais. on June 07, 2018, 07:38:32 PM
Quote from: emzen on June 07, 2018, 06:49:26 PM
Quote from: Bulldagger on June 07, 2018, 04:36:55 PM
EXACTLY. That?s why I can?t stomach shows like Pose. I?m sorry it?s an agenda to emasculate gay black men. You can be a strong, black, masculine gay man. Sick of seeing gay men in makeup, wigs and women?s clothing. It?s tired and played the fuck out. I can?t relate. White gays get to be masculine and gay. We have to be Miss Lawerance or a Derrick J.
lfjkdfslj I'm sorry but what? Like, legit, what are you trying to say here because this... makes zero sense?
Sounds more like you're a follower of societal guidelines of masculinity and you're disregarding a massive chunk of queer history that laid the groundwork for modern-day fags to live as freely as they do now.
I was about to say
Fem men and trans pretty much fought for the rights we gays have now.
What have masc gay men done for our community?
:dead:
I'm pretty sure there were masc gay men who fought right along with them
Drais would know
Quote from: Nick'Challa on June 07, 2018, 07:40:42 PM
Quote from: Andrais. on June 07, 2018, 07:38:32 PM
Quote from: emzen on June 07, 2018, 06:49:26 PM
Quote from: Bulldagger on June 07, 2018, 04:36:55 PM
EXACTLY. That?s why I can?t stomach shows like Pose. I?m sorry it?s an agenda to emasculate gay black men. You can be a strong, black, masculine gay man. Sick of seeing gay men in makeup, wigs and women?s clothing. It?s tired and played the fuck out. I can?t relate. White gays get to be masculine and gay. We have to be Miss Lawerance or a Derrick J.
lfjkdfslj I'm sorry but what? Like, legit, what are you trying to say here because this... makes zero sense?
Sounds more like you're a follower of societal guidelines of masculinity and you're disregarding a massive chunk of queer history that laid the groundwork for modern-day fags to live as freely as they do now.
I was about to say
Fem men and trans pretty much fought for the rights we gays have now.
What have masc gay men done for our community?
:dead:
I'm pretty sure there were masc gay men who fought right along with them
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Quote from: Baph Lorenzo. on June 07, 2018, 06:25:54 PM
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See how that ending blue line is just SLIGHTLY perched about Sootlight?
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See how Godlight won an Oscar and Call Me By Sugar Daddy didn?t?
Quote from: Bulldagger on June 07, 2018, 02:57:26 PM
Quote from: Fairy Aid Mother on June 07, 2018, 02:28:08 PM
this mess needa be front page news
these white gays are tha REAL AIDY gorls
Nnnnn. They never disclosed his sexual orientation or the sex of his future victims. I'm guessing straight because straight white men are typically Found guilty of CP, which he admitted to viewing if you read the article.
guessing indeed
Quote from: emzen on June 07, 2018, 06:49:26 PM
Quote from: Bulldagger on June 07, 2018, 04:36:55 PM
EXACTLY. That?s why I can?t stomach shows like Pose. I?m sorry it?s an agenda to emasculate gay black men. You can be a strong, black, masculine gay man. Sick of seeing gay men in makeup, wigs and women?s clothing. It?s tired and played the fuck out. I can?t relate. White gays get to be masculine and gay. We have to be Miss Lawerance or a Derrick J.
lfjkdfslj I'm sorry but what? Like, legit, what are you trying to say here because this... makes zero sense?
Sounds more like you're a follower of societal guidelines of masculinity and you're disregarding a massive chunk of queer history that laid the groundwork for modern-day fags to live as freely as they do now.
I'm not a follower of anything. Homosexuality is a sexual orientation, not an act. There's no such thing as acting gay, but gay men think because they are same gender loving they have to take on the role of the woman. That there is social conditioning. And I genuinely feel like gays today play up the gay stereotype.
In our relationships, we?re two men. There's no bitch in the relationship, no kept man. You work, I work. On the bills and bread, we go half regardless of positions in the bedroom.
Quote from: Nick'Challa on June 07, 2018, 07:40:42 PM
Quote from: Andrais. on June 07, 2018, 07:38:32 PM
Quote from: emzen on June 07, 2018, 06:49:26 PM
Quote from: Bulldagger on June 07, 2018, 04:36:55 PM
EXACTLY. That?s why I can?t stomach shows like Pose. I?m sorry it?s an agenda to emasculate gay black men. You can be a strong, black, masculine gay man. Sick of seeing gay men in makeup, wigs and women?s clothing. It?s tired and played the fuck out. I can?t relate. White gays get to be masculine and gay. We have to be Miss Lawerance or a Derrick J.
lfjkdfslj I'm sorry but what? Like, legit, what are you trying to say here because this... makes zero sense?
Sounds more like you're a follower of societal guidelines of masculinity and you're disregarding a massive chunk of queer history that laid the groundwork for modern-day fags to live as freely as they do now.
I was about to say
Fem men and trans pretty much fought for the rights we gays have now.
What have masc gay men done for our community?
:dead:
I'm pretty sure there were masc gay men who fought right along with them
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nah
& bull' stfu huN!
ya wrong!
shut up!
trans gorls gave u prolapsed booty ass FAGGOTS EVRYTHANG u got!
Quote from: Bulldagger on June 07, 2018, 09:43:31 PM
Quote from: emzen on June 07, 2018, 06:49:26 PM
Quote from: Bulldagger on June 07, 2018, 04:36:55 PM
EXACTLY. That?s why I can?t stomach shows like Pose. I?m sorry it?s an agenda to emasculate gay black men. You can be a strong, black, masculine gay man. Sick of seeing gay men in makeup, wigs and women?s clothing. It?s tired and played the fuck out. I can?t relate. White gays get to be masculine and gay. We have to be Miss Lawerance or a Derrick J.
lfjkdfslj I'm sorry but what? Like, legit, what are you trying to say here because this... makes zero sense?
Sounds more like you're a follower of societal guidelines of masculinity and you're disregarding a massive chunk of queer history that laid the groundwork for modern-day fags to live as freely as they do now.
I'm not a follower of anything. Homosexuality is a sexual orientation, not an act. There's no such thing as acting gay, but gay men think because they are same gender loving they have to take on the role of the woman. That there is social conditioning. And I genuinely feel like gays today play up the gay stereotype.
In our relationships, we?re two men. There's no bitch in the relationship, no kept man. You work, I work. On the bills and bread, we go half regardless of positions in the bedroom.
This post and the post from you that I originally quoted completely contradict each other.
I don't think you know what side you're on. :unsure:
:guys:
Masculine DL (some) gays are the reason why the black gay community has aids and mess. The fem gurs want a boyfriend and lasting love, while the Masc gurs want to have orgies and fuck in parks.
That's the true tea.
Quote from: Andrais. on June 07, 2018, 07:38:32 PM
Quote from: emzen on June 07, 2018, 06:49:26 PM
Quote from: Bulldagger on June 07, 2018, 04:36:55 PM
EXACTLY. That?s why I can?t stomach shows like Pose. I?m sorry it?s an agenda to emasculate gay black men. You can be a strong, black, masculine gay man. Sick of seeing gay men in makeup, wigs and women?s clothing. It?s tired and played the fuck out. I can?t relate. White gays get to be masculine and gay. We have to be Miss Lawerance or a Derrick J.
lfjkdfslj I'm sorry but what? Like, legit, what are you trying to say here because this... makes zero sense?
Sounds more like you're a follower of societal guidelines of masculinity and you're disregarding a massive chunk of queer history that laid the groundwork for modern-day fags to live as freely as they do now.
I was about to say
Fem men and trans pretty much fought for the rights we gays have now.
What have masc gay men done for our community?
:dead:
ya?ll are in here dragging and laying down the damn law huh
Oof! aaack-a!
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Quote from: Nick'Challa on June 07, 2018, 07:40:42 PM
Quote from: Andrais. on June 07, 2018, 07:38:32 PM
Quote from: emzen on June 07, 2018, 06:49:26 PM
Quote from: Bulldagger on June 07, 2018, 04:36:55 PM
EXACTLY. That?s why I can?t stomach shows like Pose. I?m sorry it?s an agenda to emasculate gay black men. You can be a strong, black, masculine gay man. Sick of seeing gay men in makeup, wigs and women?s clothing. It?s tired and played the fuck out. I can?t relate. White gays get to be masculine and gay. We have to be Miss Lawerance or a Derrick J.
lfjkdfslj I'm sorry but what? Like, legit, what are you trying to say here because this... makes zero sense?
Sounds more like you're a follower of societal guidelines of masculinity and you're disregarding a massive chunk of queer history that laid the groundwork for modern-day fags to live as freely as they do now.
I was about to say
Fem men and trans pretty much fought for the rights we gays have now.
What have masc gay men done for our community?
:dead:
I'm pretty sure there were masc gay men who fought right along with them
these posts are about who largely lead the charge and died in the midst of
rite
gay masc' men was prolly out thea fightin' n once tha police came
they ran they ass away
bac to they wives n chilren!
Quote from: emzen on June 08, 2018, 01:56:14 AM
Quote from: Bulldagger on June 07, 2018, 09:43:31 PM
Quote from: emzen on June 07, 2018, 06:49:26 PM
Quote from: Bulldagger on June 07, 2018, 04:36:55 PM
EXACTLY. That?s why I can?t stomach shows like Pose. I?m sorry it?s an agenda to emasculate gay black men. You can be a strong, black, masculine gay man. Sick of seeing gay men in makeup, wigs and women?s clothing. It?s tired and played the fuck out. I can?t relate. White gays get to be masculine and gay. We have to be Miss Lawerance or a Derrick J.
lfjkdfslj I'm sorry but what? Like, legit, what are you trying to say here because this... makes zero sense?
Sounds more like you're a follower of societal guidelines of masculinity and you're disregarding a massive chunk of queer history that laid the groundwork for modern-day fags to live as freely as they do now.
I'm not a follower of anything. Homosexuality is a sexual orientation, not an act. There's no such thing as acting gay, but gay men think because they are same gender loving they have to take on the role of the woman. That there is social conditioning. And I genuinely feel like gays today play up the gay stereotype.
In our relationships, we?re two men. There's no bitch in the relationship, no kept man. You work, I work. On the bills and bread, we go half regardless of positions in the bedroom.
This post and the post from you that I originally quoted completely contradict each other.
I don't think you know what side you're on. :unsure:
LOL, any time we have this discussion the fems get in their feelings and want to argue you down. Just say I personally feel offended and move on. Again, there?s no ACT to be being gay. You fucking another man is the gay part. Wearing wigs, skirts, dresses and heels makes you effeminate, but not gay. However, gay men THINK that it does.
Quote from: king maison. on June 08, 2018, 02:33:49 AM
Masculine DL (some) gays are the reason why the black gay community has aids and mess. The fem gurs want a boyfriend and lasting love, while the Masc gurs want to have orgies and fuck in parks.
That's the true tea.
That?s a bald faced lie. Most of the gays with HIV are openly gay and proud. To put such an epidemic on masculine gay men as if we?re all living on the DL is absurd. I?d say it?s the ones double dipping carrying all of the diseases and staying on the straight side for good measure. But there?s always some silly fag willing to sleep with trade whether he?s aided or not. You know sense goes out of the window for a nut!
Not sure how this convo got here but a masc man aint ever did shit for liberation btw.
Quote from: Kurama on June 08, 2018, 09:52:12 AM
Not sure how this convo got here but a masc man aint ever did shit for liberation btw.
That?s a factoid. They?re fighting but they don?t have to wear it on their sleeves and people are too busy telling them, ?Well, you don?t seem gay? or looking towards a stereotype as what is gay. I don?t understand why gay men get so defensive about this and why they don?t see it as problematic. There?s more dimensions to being gay than being exaggeratedly efffeminate or being an EJ Johnson. And the only way black gay men will be seen as men to straight men, is if they stop letting society play up this caricature of what is a gay man. I know that sounds offensive as hell, but how can the average straight man relate to someone like EJ Johnson or a stereotypical gay man like Adam Rippon? It is going to take the Frank Oceans and Jussie Smollets and Keegan Hirsts to bring them aboard. I?m sorry!
For example, I?m gay, but I don?t like hanging around women. I used to be able to tolerate them in my youth. I get around them now, and I?m like, ?Holy fuck, now I see what straight men feel like? I feel like that with a lot of gay men nowadays. I cannot relate to their conversation, they?re always talking about some trivial gay ass shit and I cannot take it. That?s how it feels for straight men, I?m sure.
Quote from: Bulldagger on June 08, 2018, 09:44:58 AM
Quote from: king maison. on June 08, 2018, 02:33:49 AM
Masculine DL (some) gays are the reason why the black gay community has aids and mess. The fem gurs want a boyfriend and lasting love, while the Masc gurs want to have orgies and fuck in parks.
That's the true tea.
That?s a bald faced lie. Most of the gays with HIV are openly gay and proud. To put such an epidemic on masculine gay men as if we?re all living on the DL is absurd. I?d say it?s the ones double dipping carrying all of the diseases and staying on the straight side for good measure. But there?s always some silly fag willing to sleep with trade whether he?s aided or not. You know sense goes out of the window for a nut!
I clearly said Masculine DL (some)..... Anyways the Masc gurs are why HIV/AIDS is do prevalent in the Black Gay Community. That's my opinion and I ain't changing it. I'm glad God delivered me from all that devilness.
SKSKSKSJD :diddraispoot:
Quote from: Bulldagger on June 08, 2018, 10:02:39 AM
Quote from: Kurama on June 08, 2018, 09:52:12 AM
Not sure how this convo got here but a masc man aint ever did shit for liberation btw.
That?s a factoid. They?re fighting but they don?t have to wear it on their sleeves and people are too busy telling them, ?Well, you don?t seem gay? or looking towards a stereotype as what is gay.
Im not sure what most of your post is in regard to but if you can point me to a masc gay black man who helped achieve civil rights for gays ill digress.
Bayard Rust' wasnt masc from what ive read.
Quote from: king maison. on June 08, 2018, 10:07:14 AM
Quote from: Bulldagger on June 08, 2018, 09:44:58 AM
Quote from: king maison. on June 08, 2018, 02:33:49 AM
Masculine DL (some) gays are the reason why the black gay community has aids and mess. The fem gurs want a boyfriend and lasting love, while the Masc gurs want to have orgies and fuck in parks.
That's the true tea.
That?s a bald-faced lie. Most of the gays with HIV are openly gay and proud. To put such an epidemic on masculine gay men as if we?re all living on the DL is absurd. I?d say it?s the ones double dipping carrying all of the diseases and staying on the straight side for good measure. But there?s always some silly fag willing to sleep with trade whether he?s aided or not. You know sense goes out of the window for a nut!
I clearly said Masculine DL (some)..... Anyways the Masc gurs are why HIV/AIDS is do prevalent in the Black Gay Community. That's my opinion and I ain't changing it. I'm glad God delivered me from all that devilness.
Ok, King MASON. Did God really deliver you?
You?re wrong again, DL men and careless gay men are why HIV/AIDS are prevalent. And if you really wanna go further, gay men are to blame for that. You go to sites like REDDIT and LSPG and most gay sites and see some niggas doing some obvious gay stuff and gay men are like, well he?s not really gay or he?s gay for pay or he?s still STRAIGHt he?s just curious or experimenting. So fucking other men doesn?t make you gay? When? The only reason why these stupid silly gays say that shit is because they have this sick straight fetish and wanna get fucked by trade. And don?t call them out on it unless. you wanna be a hater and stupid and uneducated. It?s usually black women calling it what it is and I respect them for that because these gays, especially the white ones, will let anything go and they wonder why the LGBT community is becoming so commercialized and why the so-called allies continue to benefit over members of the community. You can?t let everybody IN and you have to have some type of standards.
I honestly want all gay men with that mentality to drop dead. They do such a disservice to being gay.
:blink:
Quote from: Kurama on June 08, 2018, 10:13:25 AM
Quote from: Bulldagger on June 08, 2018, 10:02:39 AM
Quote from: Kurama on June 08, 2018, 09:52:12 AM
Not sure how this convo got here but a masc man aint ever did shit for liberation btw.
That?s a factoid. They?re fighting but they don?t have to wear it on their sleeves and people are too busy telling them, ?Well, you don?t seem gay? or looking towards a stereotype as what is gay.
Im not sure what most of your post is in regard to but if you can point me to a masc gay black man who helped achieve civil rights for gays ill digress.
Bayard Rust' wasnt masc from what ive read.
I think Jussie Smollet and Keegan Hirst are very masculine and they are showing another side to the community and I love that.
In this clip, Keegan says he didn?t think he was gay because he didn?t fit the stereotype of bein gay and felt like he couldn?t COME OUT because of that. That?s how a lot of masculine gay men feel. Still, that doesn?t mean they?re not fighting. To come out as a Rugby player in sports is a big deal. More gay men need to do it.
And when day GAY FOR PAY become okay in our community? When did a man selling himself for money become okay and attractive? Real men will work 5 minimum wage jobs and sleep for 2 hours before they dishonor their families like that. And why do gay men think such a despicable thing benefits them when they?re becoming a minority in their own industry, such as gay porn? He gets to take his self-loathing ass home at night and sometimes make disparaging remarks about you on Twitter and benefit from perks of being gay while still basketing in straight privilege and still have his cake and eat it too. That is so awful to me and I refuse to subscribe to that type of thinking. If you fucking another man, you a fag plain and simple.
Good morning.
Quote from: Bulldagger on June 08, 2018, 10:21:41 AM
Quote from: Kurama on June 08, 2018, 10:13:25 AM
Quote from: Bulldagger on June 08, 2018, 10:02:39 AM
Quote from: Kurama on June 08, 2018, 09:52:12 AM
Not sure how this convo got here but a masc man aint ever did shit for liberation btw.
That?s a factoid. They?re fighting but they don?t have to wear it on their sleeves and people are too busy telling them, ?Well, you don?t seem gay? or looking towards a stereotype as what is gay.
Im not sure what most of your post is in regard to but if you can point me to a masc gay black man who helped achieve civil rights for gays ill digress.
Bayard Rust' wasnt masc from what ive read.
I think Jussie Smollet and Keegan Hirst are very masculine and they are showing another side to the community and I love that.
In this clip, Keegan says he didn?t think he was gay because he didn?t fit the stereotype of bein gay and felt like he couldn?t COME OUT because of that. That?s how a lot of masculine gay men feel. Still, that doesn?t mean they?re not fighting. To come out as a Rugby player in sports is a big deal. More gay men need to do it.
There's a misunderstanding. These are activists now. The huge fights for liberation and HIV related care have been fought for decades prior by Fem/trans folks. That's what I am speaking too.
I think its great that some folks (like Jussie) can step into the light now but my point is that the fems pretty much paved the way.
Jussie is kinda feminine though.
Quote from: Kurama on June 08, 2018, 10:32:08 AM
Quote from: Bulldagger on June 08, 2018, 10:21:41 AM
Quote from: Kurama on June 08, 2018, 10:13:25 AM
Quote from: Bulldagger on June 08, 2018, 10:02:39 AM
Quote from: Kurama on June 08, 2018, 09:52:12 AM
Not sure how this convo got here but a masc man aint ever did shit for liberation btw.
That?s a factoid. They?re fighting but they don?t have to wear it on their sleeves and people are too busy telling them, ?Well, you don?t seem gay? or looking towards a stereotype as what is gay.
Im not sure what most of your post is in regard to but if you can point me to a masc gay black man who helped achieve civil rights for gays ill digress.
Bayard Rust' wasnt masc from what ive read.
I think Jussie Smollet and Keegan Hirst are very masculine and they are showing another side to the community and I love that.
In this clip, Keegan says he didn?t think he was gay because he didn?t fit the stereotype of bein gay and felt like he couldn?t COME OUT because of that. That?s how a lot of masculine gay men feel. Still, that doesn?t mean they?re not fighting. To come out as a Rugby player in sports is a big deal. More gay men need to do it.
There's a misunderstanding. These are activists now. The huge fights for liberation and HIV related care have been fought for decades prior by Fem/trans folks. That's what I am speaking too.
I think its great that some folks (like Jussie) can step into the light now but my point is that the fems pretty much paved the way.
I can?t debate with you about that because I don?t have a list of names and don?t feel like doing the research, but I don?t think you can say effeminate gays were the only ones fighting for gay rights, especially when he face of being gay is an effeminate one so by default effeminate gay men would be face.
Jussie?s has a white man?s level of masculinity. I prefer that over hyper masculinity or that of the typical black man?s.
I'm screaming
Quote from: BrandySavedMyLife on June 08, 2018, 11:13:54 AM
Jussie is kinda feminine though.
!!!!!
So just because he doesn't have a limp wrist and isn't overly flamoyant that makes him masculine? Bulll gur :dead:
Please stop quoting it :dead: