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Michael Jackson got a head start -- so why does Janet narrowly outrank him on the list of the top-performing artists in Hot 100 history? (She?s No. 7; he?s No. 8.) Michael boasts 13 No. 1s among his 30 top 10s, both higher sums than Janet?s respective totals of 10 and 27. (Michael?s numbers reflect only his solo career, not the four No. 1s, among 11 top 10s, that he earned as a member of The Jackson 5 and The Jacksons.)
But the more weeks an artist spends in the chart?s upper echelons, the better his or her all-time tally, and Janet has racked up 219 weeks in the top 10 compared with Michael?s 183. Between the two, Janet has also spent the most time at No. 1 with any single: ?That?s the Way Love Goes? ruled for eight weeks in 1993, topping the career-best seven-week reigns of Michael?s ?Billie Jean? in 1983 and ?Black or White? in 1991 and 1992.
Basically, the more time an artist spent in the top 10 or at No.1 the better their chances were with chart placement.
Janet is better anyway imhfo
:scrumptious:
I've always preferred Janet's music over his
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Quote from: Nine on August 02, 2018, 04:56:12 PM
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Quote from: Lazarus on August 02, 2018, 04:53:52 PM
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Michael Jackson got a head start -- so why does Janet narrowly outrank him on the list of the top-performing artists in Hot 100 history? (She?s No. 7; he?s No. 8.) Michael boasts 13 No. 1s among his 30 top 10s, both higher sums than Janet?s respective totals of 10 and 27. (Michael?s numbers reflect only his solo career, not the four No. 1s, among 11 top 10s, that he earned as a member of The Jackson 5 and The Jacksons.)
But the more weeks an artist spends in the chart?s upper echelons, the better his or her all-time tally, and Janet has racked up 219 weeks in the top 10 compared with Michael?s 183. Between the two, Janet has also spent the most time at No. 1 with any single: ?That?s the Way Love Goes? ruled for eight weeks in 1993, topping the career-best seven-week reigns of Michael?s ?Billie Jean? in 1983 and ?Black or White? in 1991 and 1992.
Basically, the more time an artist spent in the top 10 or at No.1 the better their chances were with chart placement.
It is an inverse point system.
And that's what they use to calculate everything.
But it isn't truly reflective.
Example:
6 weeks #1 could = selling 55,000
2 weeks #1 could = selling 308,000
The 2 week/308k song/album, etc. should be the winner.
But the 55k will be positioned higher cause it gained more points.
They have to do this, cause soundscan didn't exist prior to 1991.
So they use the inverse system to add songs from the 80s, 70s, 60s, etc.
are you gonna post that in every thread
Quote from: Guilty on August 02, 2018, 04:57:01 PM
Quote from: Nine on August 02, 2018, 04:56:12 PM
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Quote from: Guilty on August 02, 2018, 04:59:58 PM
are you gonna post that in every thread
I'm SCREAMING
Quote from: Nine on August 02, 2018, 05:00:07 PM
Quote from: Guilty on August 02, 2018, 04:57:01 PM
Quote from: Nine on August 02, 2018, 04:56:12 PM
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Quote from: Guilty on August 02, 2018, 04:59:58 PM
are you gonna post that in every thread
Ssdddidjdjdd
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Ralf, OK :diddraispoot:
I prefer Janet all day, but no one will ever see MJ's impact.
He is THE legend of legends.
Quote from: Guilty on August 02, 2018, 04:59:58 PM
are you gonna post that in every thread
Whenever I feel like it.
Do you plan on responding to me after this, or will you mind your business?
But PLANK Queen
:blessed:
Eh....
Quote from: Kalifornia on August 02, 2018, 05:02:07 PM
I prefer Janet all day, but no one will ever see MJ's impact.
He is THE legend of legends.
no one asked you hun
Quote from: Vonc2002 on August 02, 2018, 05:01:20 PM
Ralf, OK :diddraispoot:
:kii:
:cmerefag:
Still gotta fight you for that Robyn comment.
I love both but no.
Quote from: MelMel on August 02, 2018, 05:03:25 PM
Quote from: Kalifornia on August 02, 2018, 05:02:07 PM
I prefer Janet all day, but no one will ever see MJ's impact.
He is THE legend of legends.
no one asked you hun
!
Quote from: Redskin on August 02, 2018, 05:03:37 PM
Tears.
The gorls were all for that breakdown when it came to Nicki though.
Educate the gorls Ralfie. Do yo thang bew. :woohoo:
Education is key.
Some people are against it, it seems.
:ohwow:
Quote from: Rxxf on August 02, 2018, 04:58:54 PM
Quote from: Lazarus on August 02, 2018, 04:53:52 PM
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Michael Jackson got a head start -- so why does Janet narrowly outrank him on the list of the top-performing artists in Hot 100 history? (She?s No. 7; he?s No. 8.) Michael boasts 13 No. 1s among his 30 top 10s, both higher sums than Janet?s respective totals of 10 and 27. (Michael?s numbers reflect only his solo career, not the four No. 1s, among 11 top 10s, that he earned as a member of The Jackson 5 and The Jacksons.)
But the more weeks an artist spends in the chart?s upper echelons, the better his or her all-time tally, and Janet has racked up 219 weeks in the top 10 compared with Michael?s 183. Between the two, Janet has also spent the most time at No. 1 with any single: ?That?s the Way Love Goes? ruled for eight weeks in 1993, topping the career-best seven-week reigns of Michael?s ?Billie Jean? in 1983 and ?Black or White? in 1991 and 1992.
Basically, the more time an artist spent in the top 10 or at No.1 the better their chances were with chart placement.
It is an inverse point system.
And that's what they use to calculate everything.
But it isn't truly reflective.
Example:
6 weeks #1 could = selling 55,000
2 weeks #1 could = selling 308,000
The 2 week/308k song/album, etc. should be the winner.
But the 55k will be positioned higher cause it gained more points.
They have to do this, cause soundscan didn't exist prior to 1991.
So they use the inverse system to add songs from the 80s, 70s, 60s, etc.
So are you upset because sales aren't a factor in these list? :diddraispoot:
Only idiots thought the lists were based on sales :dead: :dead: :dead: :uhh:
Quote from: MelMel on August 02, 2018, 05:03:25 PM
Quote from: Kalifornia on August 02, 2018, 05:02:07 PM
I prefer Janet all day, but no one will ever see MJ's impact.
He is THE legend of legends.
no one asked you hun
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No.
Quote from: Guilty on August 02, 2018, 05:05:48 PM
Only idiots thought the lists were based on sales :dead: :dead: :dead: :uhh:
Kii.
indeed
Quote from: Guilty on August 02, 2018, 05:05:48 PM
Only idiots thought the lists were based on sales :dead: :dead: :dead: :uhh:
:guys:
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I prefer KANG but slay Gran
Quote from: Rxxf on August 02, 2018, 05:06:06 PM
No.
Oh ok because what I took from this was that they tally up each artist's week spent in the Top 10 and at No.1
Quote from: Lazarus on August 02, 2018, 05:08:44 PM
Quote from: Rxxf on August 02, 2018, 05:06:06 PM
No.
Oh ok because what I took from this was that they tally up each artist's week spent in the Top 10 and at No.1
Yes, including 11-100.
Mays got dragged in here and I would like for this to keep happening all the time guys
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Quote from: Lazarus on August 02, 2018, 05:08:44 PM
Quote from: Rxxf on August 02, 2018, 05:06:06 PM
No.
Oh ok because what I took from this was that they tally up each artist's week spent in the Top 10 and at No.1
literally
QuoteBut the more weeks an artist spends in the chart?s upper echelons, the better his or her all-time tally, and Janet has racked up 219 weeks in the top 10 compared with Michael?s 183. Between the two, Janet has also spent the most time at No. 1 with any single: ?That?s the Way Love Goes? ruled for eight weeks in 1993, topping the career-best seven-week reigns of Michael?s ?Billie Jean? in 1983 and ?Black or White? in 1991 and 1992.
:omf: :omf:
Quote from: MelMel on August 02, 2018, 05:09:43 PM
Mays got dragged in here and I would like for this to keep happening all the time guys
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This episode
:kii:
Quote from: Rxxf on August 02, 2018, 05:09:29 PM
Quote from: Lazarus on August 02, 2018, 05:08:44 PM
Quote from: Rxxf on August 02, 2018, 05:06:06 PM
No.
Oh ok because what I took from this was that they tally up each artist's week spent in the Top 10 and at No.1
Yes, including 11-100.
It didn't say anything about those positions on the Hot 100 but ok
Quote from: Lazarus on August 02, 2018, 05:12:26 PM
Quote from: Rxxf on August 02, 2018, 05:09:29 PM
Quote from: Lazarus on August 02, 2018, 05:08:44 PM
Quote from: Rxxf on August 02, 2018, 05:06:06 PM
No.
Oh ok because what I took from this was that they tally up each artist's week spent in the Top 10 and at No.1
Yes, including 11-100.
It didn't say anything about those positions on the Hot 100 but ok
They didn't have to.
It's an inverse system. #1 gets 100 points, #100 gets 1 point. And they calculate based on that.
This wasn't about you, tho, with all due respect. I wasn't coming at YOU. I feel like you think I was? Lol.
:dead:
The way they calculate from 1-100 is on their website.
Quote from: Nine on August 02, 2018, 04:56:12 PM
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Now close this
Quote from: Rxxf on August 02, 2018, 05:14:11 PM
Quote from: Lazarus on August 02, 2018, 05:12:26 PM
Quote from: Rxxf on August 02, 2018, 05:09:29 PM
Quote from: Lazarus on August 02, 2018, 05:08:44 PM
Quote from: Rxxf on August 02, 2018, 05:06:06 PM
No.
Oh ok because what I took from this was that they tally up each artist's week spent in the Top 10 and at No.1
Yes, including 11-100.
It didn't say anything about those positions on the Hot 100 but ok
They didn't have to.
It's an inverse system. #1 gets 100 points, #100 gets 1 point. And they calculate based on that.
This wasn't about you, tho, with all due respect. I wasn't coming at YOU. I feel like you think I was? Lol.
:dead:
The way they calculate from 1-100 is on their website.
Ralf, I get it and I'm familiar with Billboard's standards/point system. No I don't think you're coming for me. We're just having a discussion.
What I'm saying is, it seems like Billboard negate all the other positions on the Hot 100 and only counted when the artist entered the Top 10 or debut at No.1 and counted the multiple weeks the artist and their song spent inside the Top 10 or at No.1.