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Title: To see the actual plantation that your family worked on....
Post by: Herb. on November 10, 2015, 12:04:45 AM
To get a glimpse into the house where they were enslaved....

(https://www.presnc.org/files/2015/08/Edmund_Deberry_House.jpg)

And see the land they were forced to roam.

(https://www.presnc.org/files/2015/08/Edmund_Deberry_House2.jpg)

It's eerie as fuck.
Why do I feel like I'm standing in that diningroom :uhh:

This is lowkey depressing, but such a needed reminder.

I have the address now, and the house is open, I may pay a visit.
Title: Re: To see the actual plantation that your family worked on....
Post by: Herb. on November 10, 2015, 12:09:01 AM
and why is that pic on the wall making me so fucking angry :plzstop:

i cannot stop staring at this picture :uhh: :uhh:
Title: Re: To see the actual plantation that your family worked on....
Post by: CHOKE on November 10, 2015, 12:29:40 AM
This is too edgy. I'm sure I'd want to see the inside of the house and stuff because I'm sure my ancestors were kept inside. This is so sad.
Title: Re: To see the actual plantation that your family worked on....
Post by: RekeRig on November 10, 2015, 12:34:55 AM
this is crazy to see. and weird to see HQ pics of it omg

but ;nnnnbv not the pic giving

:tistheseas:
Title: Re: To see the actual plantation that your family worked on....
Post by: Stewie on November 10, 2015, 12:39:40 AM
this is the EXACT house were your ancestors were lashed?

this is crazy... the fact that your family kept track of all this stuff...
Title: Re: To see the actual plantation that your family worked on....
Post by: Herb. on November 10, 2015, 12:42:33 AM
I have to do more research into my great great great grandmother because although I know for a fact this plantation is associated with the last name.....

She gives me more of a "freed negro" in her portrait. She doesn't look like she was enslaved. But she was a product of slave master rape from what my grandmother told me. But then again, my grandmother admits to me that her knowledge of that side is fuzzy; maybe her details aren't as accurate as she thinks. If she was freed, which she appears to be, there's a greater chance that her conception may have been consensual.

My family in general worked that plantation, but now comes the question of was it one of my DIRECT ancestors working it? Or was it simply relatives. Either way, I plan on visiting the plantation.

(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/t31.0-8/11722216_10205891413743094_8388463509775909794_o.jpg)
Title: Re: To see the actual plantation that your family worked on....
Post by: Herb. on November 10, 2015, 12:43:40 AM
Quote from: Stewie on November 10, 2015, 12:39:40 AM
this is the EXACT house were your ancestors were lashed?

this is crazy... the fact that your family kept track of all this stuff...
Yes.

This is the DeBerry house....which is now on sale.

https://www.presnc.org/properties/edmund-deberry-house/

Edmund DeBerry was a congressman. My family took his name.
Title: Re: To see the actual plantation that your family worked on....
Post by: Herb. on November 10, 2015, 12:46:46 AM
And I agree Jacob, I was also surprised this morning at how meticulous their records are.
that's why I was very excited...this is all so intriguing. And to have so much at your fingertips....

it definitely reminds you that this shit was REAL. read about it, now see where it went down for YOUR kin folk.
Title: Re: To see the actual plantation that your family worked on....
Post by: Herb. on November 10, 2015, 12:48:45 AM
Quote from: RIG on November 10, 2015, 12:34:55 AM
this is crazy to see. and weird to see HQ pics of it omg

but ;nnnnbv not the pic giving

:tistheseas:
ddd

i wanna rip thru this screen and snatch that crackers wig off his head

just PERCHED there on a wall give "hehe!" as my family gets lashes on their fucking back.
Title: Re: To see the actual plantation that your family worked on....
Post by: Stewie on November 10, 2015, 12:49:32 AM
:everythingok:
and the fact that the property being preserved for all these years..

so noone lives there?
Title: Re: To see the actual plantation that your family worked on....
Post by: Herb. on November 10, 2015, 12:51:53 AM
Quote from: Stewie on November 10, 2015, 12:49:32 AM
:everythingok:
and the fact that the property being preserved for all these years..

so noone lives there?
its officially historical....given his status.
which explains how impeccable it looks. with little to no renovation
that's what draws me to it. i really get a feel of what it was like. its creepy as fuck.
Title: Re: To see the actual plantation that your family worked on....
Post by: iman on November 10, 2015, 01:06:58 AM
omg you're really DIGGING :uhh: wow how did you find this out?
Title: Re: To see the actual plantation that your family worked on....
Post by: Sinpool on November 10, 2015, 01:42:21 AM
kjJKNJDDD

Slave houses are perched all over the south.

In my hometown people give tours and such of the Slave houses and the Antebellum mess.
Title: Re: To see the actual plantation that your family worked on....
Post by: Herb. on November 10, 2015, 01:48:09 AM
Quote from: iman on November 10, 2015, 01:06:58 AM
omg you're really DIGGING :uhh: wow how did you find this out?
my mother's family put it together on one page...the entire family history
just everything, laid out. :stressed: so i can't take all the credit.
i just had to stop giving the euro mess a middle finger and dig in like my grandma wanted me to.
u know i'm obsessed with great grandma chief lol :stressed:

glad i gave it a rest and moved on. this is amazing.

they're so damn smart. :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
like, it's so detailed.  :uhh:

i swear if i had the coin i'd buy that fucking house.
and hire white people to clean and cook in it for minimum wage lolz. :ohwow:

Title: Re: To see the actual plantation that your family worked on....
Post by: TogetherAgain on November 10, 2015, 02:08:22 AM
Quote from: Herbie on November 10, 2015, 01:48:09 AM
i swear if i had the coin i'd buy that fucking house.
and hire white people to clean and cook in it for minimum wage lolz. :ohwow:
m

:omgwatshappening:
Title: Re: To see the actual plantation that your family worked on....
Post by: Herb. on November 10, 2015, 07:09:09 AM
Quote from: TogetherAgain on November 10, 2015, 02:08:22 AM
Quote from: Herbie on November 10, 2015, 01:48:09 AM
i swear if i had the coin i'd buy that fucking house.
and hire white people to clean and cook in it for minimum wage lolz. :ohwow:
m

:omgwatshappening:
:omgwatshappening:
Title: Re: To see the actual plantation that your family worked on....
Post by: GLOCK on November 10, 2015, 08:33:26 AM
BVVZVZVZZBBZBZBZBBZBZBZBZBZZB
Not hiring white help and making them PAY

yes King
Title: Re: To see the actual plantation that your family worked on....
Post by: BigDawg on November 10, 2015, 08:44:57 AM
Im scared because I am so light, that my.family owned slaves

:stressed:
Title: Re: To see the actual plantation that your family worked on....
Post by: Herb. on November 10, 2015, 09:00:54 AM
Many black people are inherently descendants of slave masters.
That's where the European DNA in our bodies come from.
Most of us have 18-20% Euro DNA.
I actually have less than usual, at 15%. But that's because my Native DNA took the remaining non-African space.

If you're black, it's very likely your heritage includes a mixture of slavery (Africans are not natives, we were dragged here from OUR native land, and it wasn't to have tea and crumpets).
It's only white people who should be truly concerned about being embarrassed of their family history in the states. That's where a lot of white guilt comes from.

Not all sexual action between whites and blacks was forced, though.
Many actually loved their black counterparts, but was afraid of backlash from proclaiming it. Back then, it was much more than a racist Instagram lashing that you risked by going public with your Oreo luv.

During this entire journey of genealogy, I totally ignored my European side.
Why should I be proud of some slave master blood? :uhh: That's all the fuck I see it as.
But the more I learn about this (I watched a couple documentaries last night), the more willing I am to accept this part of my family history.

Looking at picture of my great great great grandmother
She seemed like a rather esteemed FREE person of color.
Much like those pictured here.

(http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/b17dbd7671e28a064e5ae896f19b13b79d57f13a/c=0-218-8000-6218&r=x404&c=534x401/local/-/media/Monroe/2015/04/26/B9317107826Z.1_20150426152659_000_G7HAJBMED.1-0.jpg)

So maybe she was indeed a product of rape, like my grandmother said...
But somewhere along the line , someone did right by my family.
I feel so much more comfortable accepting my French heritage now.
By doing so, I accept her.

(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/t31.0-8/11722216_10205891413743094_8388463509775909794_o.jpg)


Title: Re: To see the actual plantation that your family worked on....
Post by: Miranda on November 10, 2015, 10:50:14 AM
White people are demons.
Title: Re: To see the actual plantation that your family worked on....
Post by: Miranda on November 10, 2015, 10:51:06 AM
am sorry looking at history how devilish can a single race be. :loose2when: From Australia to South America, Asia, Africa and North America, all they did was cause havoc, rape, abuse, destroy... So greedy and evil.
Title: Re: To see the actual plantation that your family worked on....
Post by: Genesis on November 10, 2015, 11:25:08 AM
I dont even wanna know

Because I would march in there and demand a fucking check that is owed to my family
Title: Re: To see the actual plantation that your family worked on....
Post by: BigDawg on November 10, 2015, 11:27:05 AM
Quote from: Herbie on November 10, 2015, 09:00:54 AM
Many black people are inherently descendants of slave masters.
That's where the European DNA in our bodies come from.
Most of us have 18-20% Euro DNA.
I actually have less than usual, at 15%. But that's because my Native DNA took the remaining non-African space.

If you're black, it's very likely your heritage includes a mixture of slavery (Africans are not natives, we were dragged here from OUR native land, and it wasn't to have tea and crumpets).
It's only white people who should be truly concerned about being embarrassed of their family history in the states. That's where a lot of white guilt comes from.

Not all sexual action between whites and blacks was forced, though.
Many actually loved their black counterparts, but was afraid of backlash from proclaiming it. Back then, it was much more than a racist Instagram lashing that you risked by going public with your Oreo luv.

During this entire journey of genealogy, I totally ignored my European side.
Why should I be proud of some slave master blood? :uhh: That's all the fuck I see it as.
But the more I learn about this (I watched a couple documentaries last night), the more willing I am to accept this part of my family history.

Looking at picture of my great great great grandmother
She seemed like a rather esteemed FREE person of color.
Much like those pictured here.

(http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/b17dbd7671e28a064e5ae896f19b13b79d57f13a/c=0-218-8000-6218&r=x404&c=534x401/local/-/media/Monroe/2015/04/26/B9317107826Z.1_20150426152659_000_G7HAJBMED.1-0.jpg)

So maybe she was indeed a product of rape, like my grandmother said...
But somewhere along the line , someone did right by my family.
I feel so much more comfortable accepting my French heritage now.
By doing so, I accept her.

(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/t31.0-8/11722216_10205891413743094_8388463509775909794_o.jpg)
FRO thes ya peoples?!!

They SLAY
Title: Re: To see the actual plantation that your family worked on....
Post by: Herb. on November 10, 2015, 11:29:41 AM
Quote from: BigDawg on November 10, 2015, 11:27:05 AM
Quote from: Herbie on November 10, 2015, 09:00:54 AM
Many black people are inherently descendants of slave masters.
That's where the European DNA in our bodies come from.
Most of us have 18-20% Euro DNA.
I actually have less than usual, at 15%. But that's because my Native DNA took the remaining non-African space.

If you're black, it's very likely your heritage includes a mixture of slavery (Africans are not natives, we were dragged here from OUR native land, and it wasn't to have tea and crumpets).
It's only white people who should be truly concerned about being embarrassed of their family history in the states. That's where a lot of white guilt comes from.

Not all sexual action between whites and blacks was forced, though.
Many actually loved their black counterparts, but was afraid of backlash from proclaiming it. Back then, it was much more than a racist Instagram lashing that you risked by going public with your Oreo luv.

During this entire journey of genealogy, I totally ignored my European side.
Why should I be proud of some slave master blood? :uhh: That's all the fuck I see it as.
But the more I learn about this (I watched a couple documentaries last night), the more willing I am to accept this part of my family history.

Looking at picture of my great great great grandmother
She seemed like a rather esteemed FREE person of color.
Much like those pictured here.

(http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/b17dbd7671e28a064e5ae896f19b13b79d57f13a/c=0-218-8000-6218&r=x404&c=534x401/local/-/media/Monroe/2015/04/26/B9317107826Z.1_20150426152659_000_G7HAJBMED.1-0.jpg)

So maybe she was indeed a product of rape, like my grandmother said...
But somewhere along the line , someone did right by my family.
I feel so much more comfortable accepting my French heritage now.
By doing so, I accept her.

(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/t31.0-8/11722216_10205891413743094_8388463509775909794_o.jpg)
FRO thes ya peoples?!!

They SLAY
thank u

the first pic is an example of freed color people

the second pic is my great great great grandmother.
by comparison, its safe to assume she was free.
Title: Re: To see the actual plantation that your family worked on....
Post by: BigDawg on November 10, 2015, 11:34:18 AM
Your Great Great Great Grandmom SLAYS
Title: Re: To see the actual plantation that your family worked on....
Post by: Herb. on November 10, 2015, 11:35:17 AM
Quote from: BigDawg on November 10, 2015, 11:34:18 AM
Your Great Great Great Grandmom SLAYS
:dead: :dead: :dead: :dead:

thank u luv. :wub: :wub:
Title: Re: To see the actual plantation that your family worked on....
Post by: BigDawg on November 10, 2015, 11:41:08 AM
Quote from: Herbie on November 10, 2015, 11:35:17 AM
Quote from: BigDawg on November 10, 2015, 11:34:18 AM
Your Great Great Great Grandmom SLAYS
:dead: :dead: :dead: :dead:

thank u luv. :wub: :wub:

:traciandchelle:
Title: Re: To see the actual plantation that your family worked on....
Post by: RAY7 on November 10, 2015, 11:41:52 AM
I would want to tear that place the fuck down
Title: Re: To see the actual plantation that your family worked on....
Post by: LOONA. on November 10, 2015, 11:46:19 AM
I have honkies in my family so I'm not gonna bother.