She seems like she doesn't take shit and she's a strong BITCH
:guys:
Eh.... I mean, yes and no. Depends on what's important to you as a citizen I guess.
Quote from: Kurama on January 09, 2019, 11:23:11 AM
Eh.... I mean, yes and no. Depends on what's important to you as a citizen I guess.
She's a fairweather bitch?
I mean all politicians are, but I get the sense Trump is a bit scared of her?
No
Quote from: Hey, I'm Slick Woods on January 09, 2019, 11:24:26 AM
Quote from: Kurama on January 09, 2019, 11:23:11 AM
Eh.... I mean, yes and no. Depends on what's important to you as a citizen I guess.
She's a fairweather bitch?
I mean all politicians are, but I get the sense Trump is a bit scared of her?
She pretty much is a Hillary Clinton, tied to big corporations who influence politicians. She also believes in that bipartisanship bullshit and forgiving republicans. Most of the younger generations of folks are opposed to these things.
She is a career politician. Depending on what side your views fall, she could be viewed as either a good or bad guy. She is undeniably strong willed and stubborn about what she believes, though.
I prefer Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez over Pelosi. She said everything that Pelosi should?ve said in response to Trump?s bullshit last night when she was on Queen Maddow?s show.
Nancy has too many private connections with republicans and businesses behind the scenes which makes her very ineffective. She's also too "American" and that flag bs got on my nerves. I'm happy the new generation is moving in, they were polite this term but it's gonna be a battle for speaker of the house if the democrats still control it next session.
Something you wanna get off ya chest in 2019?
Quote from: 'ology on January 09, 2019, 12:52:30 PM
Nancy has too many private connections with republicans and businesses behind the scenes which makes her very ineffective. She's also too "American" and that flag bs got on my nerves. I'm happy the new generation is moving in, they were polite this term but it's gonna be a battle for speaker of the house if the democrats still control it next session.
Exactly. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez didn?t even want to vote Nancy in as Speaker. I?d rather someone like her who has real life experience and knows what it?s like to live paycheck to paycheck unlike Nancy.
Quote from: Happily Unhappy on January 09, 2019, 12:48:16 PM
I prefer Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez over Pelosi. She said everything that Pelosi should?ve said in response to Trump?s bullshit last night when she was on Queen Maddow?s show.
Nancy can't say the things Ocasio-Cortez are saying because then the Democrats would never stand a chance of winning another Presidential election. Politics isn't all about appealing to your core base of supporters. It's about serving the country as a whole, with a wide swath of views, beliefs and opinions and trying to find some common ground. Ocasio-Cortez and her democratic socialist message alienates a LARGE section of the party. If Nancy were to start saying the things Cortez are saying, MOST of the whites would abandon the Democratic party and the Republicans would win election after election.
Quote from: ShujiVengers Endgame (Soot Panther Still Dead...Hehe) on January 09, 2019, 01:05:18 PM
Quote from: Happily Unhappy on January 09, 2019, 12:48:16 PM
I prefer Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez over Pelosi. She said everything that Pelosi should?ve said in response to Trump?s bullshit last night when she was on Queen Maddow?s show.
Nancy can't say the things Ocasio-Cortez are saying because then the Democrats would never stand a chance of winning another Presidential election. Politics isn't all about appealing to your core base of supporters. It's about serving the country as a whole, with a wide swath of views, beliefs and opinions and trying to find some common ground. Ocasio-Cortez and her democratic socialist message alienates a LARGE section of the party. If Nancy were to start saying the things Cortez are saying, MOST of the whites would abandon the Democratic party and the Republicans would win election after election.
I know plenty of people of all races who agree with everything that Ocasio-Cortez and her message stands for. It?s time for a shift. The same old Democratic bullshit is what got us Trump in the first place. smh
Quote from: ShujiVengers Endgame (Soot Panther Still Dead...Hehe) on January 09, 2019, 01:05:18 PM
Quote from: Happily Unhappy on January 09, 2019, 12:48:16 PM
I prefer Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez over Pelosi. She said everything that Pelosi should?ve said in response to Trump?s bullshit last night when she was on Queen Maddow?s show.
Nancy can't say the things Ocasio-Cortez are saying because then the Democrats would never stand a chance of winning another Presidential election. Politics isn't all about appealing to your core base of supporters.
Shu' :unsure:
Quote from: ShujiVengers Endgame (Soot Panther Still Dead...Hehe) on January 09, 2019, 01:05:18 PM
Quote from: Happily Unhappy on January 09, 2019, 12:48:16 PM
I prefer Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez over Pelosi. She said everything that Pelosi should?ve said in response to Trump?s bullshit last night when she was on Queen Maddow?s show.
Nancy can't say the things Ocasio-Cortez are saying because then the Democrats would never stand a chance of winning another Presidential election. Politics isn't all about appealing to your core base of supporters. It's about serving the country as a whole, with a wide swath of views, beliefs and opinions and trying to find some common ground. Ocasio-Cortez and her democratic socialist message alienates a LARGE section of the party. If Nancy were to start saying the things Cortez are saying, MOST of the whites would abandon the Democratic party and the Republicans would win election after election.
Go in!
Alexandria is my kinda gal personally but we?d be handing Trump a second term if someone like her is his opponent in 2020!
Centrists and/or Independents would not vote for her
Quote from: Kurama on January 09, 2019, 01:12:23 PM
Quote from: ShujiVengers Endgame (Soot Panther Still Dead...Hehe) on January 09, 2019, 01:05:18 PM
Quote from: Happily Unhappy on January 09, 2019, 12:48:16 PM
I prefer Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez over Pelosi. She said everything that Pelosi should?ve said in response to Trump?s bullshit last night when she was on Queen Maddow?s show.
Nancy can't say the things Ocasio-Cortez are saying because then the Democrats would never stand a chance of winning another Presidential election. Politics isn't all about appealing to your core base of supporters.
Shu' :unsure:
Point me to the lie babe :sobusyjetsetter:
Quote from: ShujiVengers Endgame (Soot Panther Still Dead...Hehe) on January 09, 2019, 02:31:15 PM
Quote from: Kurama on January 09, 2019, 01:12:23 PM
Quote from: ShujiVengers Endgame (Soot Panther Still Dead...Hehe) on January 09, 2019, 01:05:18 PM
Quote from: Happily Unhappy on January 09, 2019, 12:48:16 PM
I prefer Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez over Pelosi. She said everything that Pelosi should?ve said in response to Trump?s bullshit last night when she was on Queen Maddow?s show.
Nancy can't say the things Ocasio-Cortez are saying because then the Democrats would never stand a chance of winning another Presidential election. Politics isn't all about appealing to your core base of supporters.
Shu' :unsure:
Point me to the lie babe :sobusyjetsetter:
Well the first glaring lie that I noticed was the politics is not about appealing to your core base of supports. We literally have an idiot with no political background as a president who got there by galvanizing his core base of even bigger idiots, racists, and bigots. He maintains power and a cult following by appealing to his core base.
At one point in time we would have never thought that someone like him would be president. Especially going up against ppl like Hillary Clinton, yet here the fuck we are.
I think folks shouldn't be so quick to say what will be a win for democrats in the future. Its the same mess they said about Bernie only to turn around to say he would have beaten trump if we hadn't elected Hillary as the primary candidate.
Ppl are tired of the same ole shit, the more progressive the better bby.
:receipts:
Quote from: Kurama on January 09, 2019, 04:18:57 PM
Quote from: ShujiVengers Endgame (Soot Panther Still Dead...Hehe) on January 09, 2019, 02:31:15 PM
Quote from: Kurama on January 09, 2019, 01:12:23 PM
Quote from: ShujiVengers Endgame (Soot Panther Still Dead...Hehe) on January 09, 2019, 01:05:18 PM
Quote from: Happily Unhappy on January 09, 2019, 12:48:16 PM
I prefer Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez over Pelosi. She said everything that Pelosi should?ve said in response to Trump?s bullshit last night when she was on Queen Maddow?s show.
Nancy can't say the things Ocasio-Cortez are saying because then the Democrats would never stand a chance of winning another Presidential election. Politics isn't all about appealing to your core base of supporters.
Shu' :unsure:
Point me to the lie babe :sobusyjetsetter:
Well the first glaring lie that I noticed was the politics is not about appealing to your core base of supports. We literally have an idiot with no political background as a president who got there by galvanizing his core base of even bigger idiots, racists, and bigots. He maintains power and a cult following by appealing to his core base.
At one point in time we would have never thought that someone like him would be president. Especially going up against ppl like Hillary Clinton, yet here the fuck we are.
I think folks shouldn't be so quick to say what will be a win for democrats in the future. Its the same mess they said about Bernie only to turn around to say he would have beaten trump if we hadn't elected Hillary as the primary candidate.
Ppl are tired of the same ole shit, the more progressive the better bby.
:receipts:
Trump's base makes up 41% of the voting population. That is NOT enough to win a Presidential election. He won because he was VERY good at convincing people not to turn up and vote for "Crooked Hillary." He also convinced them that he was a rich, successful businessman who could somehow make them rich and successful too.
The midterms proved that the people have begun to see through the bullshit. The coalition of Independent voters that he was able to bring to the fold have completely abandoned him. He has a very loyal base, no doubt. But that wouldn't be nowhere close to being enough to win him re-election.
What the Democrats don't need is a repeat of what happened to the Republican party and the Tea Party movement. They can push progressive agendas without alienating a significant portion of the party. You can't only cater to the more progressive elements of the party.
And there's no guarantee Bernie would have beaten Trump. A lot of Hillary supporters wouldn't have shown up for Bernie, just like a lot of Bernie supporters didn't show up for Hillary.