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Title: iTunes Removes Preorders from the Charts
Post by: Mel. on December 05, 2015, 12:31:34 AM
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iTUNES TAKES PREORDERS OUT OF THE CHART

Beginning today, preorders are no longer counted toward chart position on the iTunes charts as pre orders will occupy their own row on the iTunes Store home page.
When the preorders are redeemed, usually during the first week of release, those redemptions will now be counted along with new sales to determine the rankings.
Previously, when an album was preordered, it would be ranked along with the currently available titles based on the number of albums preordered. Then, upon release, only the new sales would contribute to chart position.This resulted in several occasions where an album with a strong preorder would be outranked by another new release, even if that new release would finish the week with a much lower number.The new way of doing things gives new releases precedence over ones with a long preorder period, prioritizing albums that are either available now or will be soon over ones that are weeks or months away.There is a new "Pre-Orders" slider about one-third of the way down the iTunes homepage with the currently available preorders. These will be ranked in order of best sellers and refreshed several times daily to reflect the most up to date status.

http://hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=298805
Title: Re: iTunes Removes Preorders from the Charts
Post by: Young on December 05, 2015, 12:33:25 AM
I was wondering why Mon was taken off ugh
Title: Re: iTunes Removes Preorders from the Charts
Post by: Herb. on December 05, 2015, 12:36:18 AM
Quote from: Young on December 05, 2015, 12:33:25 AM
I was wondering why Mon was taken off ugh
:supluv:
Title: Re: iTunes Removes Preorders from the Charts
Post by: Stewie on December 05, 2015, 12:39:49 AM
Quote from: Young on December 05, 2015, 12:33:25 AM
I was wondering why Mon was taken off ugh

mnbnbbbbbbbb
Title: Re: iTunes Removes Preorders from the Charts
Post by: BAPHOMET. on December 05, 2015, 12:40:52 AM
Quote from: Young on December 05, 2015, 12:33:25 AM
I was wondering why Mon was taken off ugh

  :dead:
Title: Re: iTunes Removes Preorders from the Charts
Post by: RekeRig on December 05, 2015, 01:57:01 AM
Ssdddd this actually makes a ton of sense
Title: Re: iTunes Removes Preorders from the Charts
Post by: Code Red: itsMista on December 05, 2015, 06:48:23 AM
I never did like them counting pre orders on the charts but Bish why they had to do it now when Mon is arriving.
Title: Re: iTunes Removes Preorders from the Charts
Post by: SUPREME on December 05, 2015, 06:57:25 AM
All that's doing to do is put more attention on albums actually on sale

Pre order albums take up unnecessary room
Title: Re: iTunes Removes Preorders from the Charts
Post by: Code Red: itsMista on December 05, 2015, 07:02:53 AM
Why did they all of sudden do it when Adele bumped down to #3. G-Eazy was slaying her. Now they don't count pre-sales in the first week chart positions. This is bullshit.
Title: Re: iTunes Removes Preorders from the Charts
Post by: SUPREME on December 05, 2015, 07:11:36 AM
Quotepreorders are no longer counted toward chart position on the iTunes charts

Has nothing to do with billboard
Title: Re: iTunes Removes Preorders from the Charts
Post by: Code Red: itsMista on December 05, 2015, 07:19:40 AM
 Why wouldn't iTunes count there on pre orders tho. Makes no sense.
Title: Re: iTunes Removes Preorders from the Charts
Post by: SUPREME on December 05, 2015, 07:29:53 AM
They're just removing them from visible charts. They waste space.

They'll still have their own space though

Just read it. :hmph:
Title: Re: iTunes Removes Preorders from the Charts
Post by: Code Red: itsMista on December 05, 2015, 07:35:16 AM
They have a pre order section but it's not like charting. It's just some random pre orders.
Title: Re: iTunes Removes Preorders from the Charts
Post by: SUPREME on December 05, 2015, 07:36:56 AM
Itunes itself isn't a chart, just another place to buy shit where sales and streams count like spotify and Pandora and Google music
Title: Re: iTunes Removes Preorders from the Charts
Post by: Code Red: itsMista on December 05, 2015, 07:43:39 AM
Quote from: SUPREME on December 05, 2015, 07:36:56 AM
Itunes itself isn't a chart, just another place to buy shit where sales and streams count like spotify and Pandora and Google music

But when you buy an album off iTunes, they count it on iTunes Charts. ITunes don't count streaming but Apple Music does. The pre orders made people realize the albums was coming out. It's fair for them to have a private section but they should still do a chart. I had to scroll through a lot to find Mon, Kellz and Chris mess. The section is so random like a clearance mess.
Title: Re: iTunes Removes Preorders from the Charts
Post by: COD. on December 05, 2015, 07:46:31 AM
They need to do something about streams counting towards sales. So dumb. I'm all for "keeping with the times" but a line has to be drawn somewhere.

:hmph:
Title: Re: iTunes Removes Preorders from the Charts
Post by: Code Red: itsMista on December 05, 2015, 07:54:14 AM
Quote from: COD. on December 05, 2015, 07:46:31 AM
They need to do something about streams counting towards sales. So dumb. I'm all for "keeping with the times" but a line has to be drawn somewhere.

:hmph:

People aren't buying music plus they want to know how many people screaming. I wonder how they count it cause I know I never streamed an album in full. I skip over the songs I'm not feeling
Title: Re: iTunes Removes Preorders from the Charts
Post by: SUPREME on December 05, 2015, 07:54:27 AM
Quote from: Mista 7.0 on December 05, 2015, 07:43:39 AM
Quote from: SUPREME on December 05, 2015, 07:36:56 AM
Itunes itself isn't a chart, just another place to buy shit where sales and streams count like spotify and Pandora and Google music

But when you buy an album off iTunes, they count it on iTunes Charts.
yes but the iTunes chart isn't any different from any other online stores chart system

It's just the biggest

Being #1 on iTunes isn't an official accomplishment.
Title: Re: iTunes Removes Preorders from the Charts
Post by: Code Red: itsMista on December 05, 2015, 07:56:07 AM
Quote from: SUPREME on December 05, 2015, 07:54:27 AM
Quote from: Mista 7.0 on December 05, 2015, 07:43:39 AM
Quote from: SUPREME on December 05, 2015, 07:36:56 AM
Itunes itself isn't a chart, just another place to buy shit where sales and streams count like spotify and Pandora and Google music

But when you buy an album off iTunes, they count it on iTunes Charts.
yes but the iTunes chart isn't any different from any other online stores chart system

It's just the biggest

Being #1 on iTunes isn't an official accomplishment.

True but when you see it #1 on iTunes, #2 on Amazon and etc, you can pretty much guess the BB position next week
Title: Re: iTunes Removes Preorders from the Charts
Post by: Herb. on December 05, 2015, 08:01:28 AM
 :feelinmyself:
Title: Re: iTunes Removes Preorders from the Charts
Post by: throwintheTAL on December 05, 2015, 12:06:58 PM
Quote from: Mista 7.0 on December 05, 2015, 07:56:07 AM
Quote from: SUPREME on December 05, 2015, 07:54:27 AM
Quote from: Mista 7.0 on December 05, 2015, 07:43:39 AM
Quote from: SUPREME on December 05, 2015, 07:36:56 AM
Itunes itself isn't a chart, just another place to buy shit where sales and streams count like spotify and Pandora and Google music

But when you buy an album off iTunes, they count it on iTunes Charts.
yes but the iTunes chart isn't any different from any other online stores chart system

It's just the biggest

Being #1 on iTunes isn't an official accomplishment.

True but when you see it #1 on iTunes, #2 on Amazon and etc, you can pretty much guess the BB position next week
you're about to flunk this grade hun
Title: Re: iTunes Removes Preorders from the Charts
Post by: Checkmate Burruss on December 05, 2015, 01:48:48 PM
Quote from: SUPREME on December 05, 2015, 07:54:27 AM
Quote from: Mista 7.0 on December 05, 2015, 07:43:39 AM
Quote from: SUPREME on December 05, 2015, 07:36:56 AM
Itunes itself isn't a chart, just another place to buy shit where sales and streams count like spotify and Pandora and Google music

But when you buy an album off iTunes, they count it on iTunes Charts.
yes but the iTunes chart isn't any different from any other online stores chart system

It's just the biggest

Being #1 on iTunes isn't an official accomplishment.

!!!
This is why I've never put much stock in iTunes position outside of visibility.
Title: Re: iTunes Removes Preorders from the Charts
Post by: RekeRig on December 05, 2015, 01:56:31 PM
Quote from: Mista 7.0 on December 05, 2015, 07:56:07 AM
Quote from: SUPREME on December 05, 2015, 07:54:27 AM
Quote from: Mista 7.0 on December 05, 2015, 07:43:39 AM
Quote from: SUPREME on December 05, 2015, 07:36:56 AM
Itunes itself isn't a chart, just another place to buy shit where sales and streams count like spotify and Pandora and Google music

But when you buy an album off iTunes, they count it on iTunes Charts.
yes but the iTunes chart isn't any different from any other online stores chart system

It's just the biggest

Being #1 on iTunes isn't an official accomplishment.

True but when you see it #1 on iTunes, #2 on Amazon and etc, you can pretty much guess the BB position next week
ssssdd oh no, no you can't.  that shit just created disappointment, trust me.
Title: Re: iTunes Removes Preorders from the Charts
Post by: tigernathan on December 06, 2015, 12:28:19 AM
Quote from: Young on December 05, 2015, 12:33:25 AM
I was wondering why Mon was taken off ugh

s

she's really low on the pre-order charts, hun  :woohoo:
Title: Re: iTunes Removes Preorders from the Charts
Post by: BAPHOMET. on December 06, 2015, 12:31:57 AM
oh my god... Am I reading this Pre-Orders chart correctly?
Is Mon really all the way down in the 100's ?
Title: Re: iTunes Removes Preorders from the Charts
Post by: Boomz on December 06, 2015, 12:59:18 AM
Quote from: Baphomet. on December 06, 2015, 12:31:57 AM
oh my god... Am I reading this Pre-Orders chart correctly?
Is Mon really all the way down in the 100's ?

fckin DEAD
Title: Re: iTunes Removes Preorders from the Charts
Post by: Code Red: itsMista on December 06, 2015, 01:00:42 AM
Quote from: Baphomet. on December 06, 2015, 12:31:57 AM
oh my god... Am I reading this Pre-Orders chart correctly?
Is Mon really all the way down in the 100's ?

It don't chart. It's just random
Title: Re: iTunes Removes Preorders from the Charts
Post by: BAPHOMET. on December 06, 2015, 01:02:40 AM
v

QuoteThese will be ranked in order of best sellers and refreshed several times daily to reflect the most up to date status.
Title: Re: iTunes Removes Preorders from the Charts
Post by: tigernathan on December 06, 2015, 01:04:14 AM
It's based on best sellers so yes it is. :dead:

I'm shocked by Chris tho. Damns lol.
Title: Re: iTunes Removes Preorders from the Charts
Post by: Mel. on December 06, 2015, 01:13:39 AM
Quote from: amy on December 06, 2015, 01:04:14 AM
It's based on best sellers so yes it is. :dead:

I'm shocked by Chris tho. Damns lol.

that thing must faulty...
cause he was perched at #11 the whole time before they removed the preorders
Title: Re: iTunes Removes Preorders from the Charts
Post by: tigernathan on December 06, 2015, 01:15:12 AM
On the R&B chart but this one is based on all charts so all pre-orders are ranked
Title: Re: iTunes Removes Preorders from the Charts
Post by: RekeRig on December 06, 2015, 04:33:24 AM
Quote from: Baphomet. on December 06, 2015, 12:31:57 AM
oh my god... Am I reading this Pre-Orders chart correctly?
Is Mon really all the way down in the 100's ?
eeek  :uhh: