BARACK OBAMA SLAMS CALL-OUT CULTURE... 'That's Not Activism'
Barack Obama doesn't want to hear about your outrage -- not if it's just on Twitter -- because he believes a society that's judgmental to the max is one that doesn't make it better.
The former President called out the current "woke" culture -- especially on social media -- while speaking Tuesday at the Obama Foundation Summit in Chicago. Obama's big point ... everything is not black and white in this world, and people make mistakes.
He told the audience ... "The world is messy. There are ambiguities. People who do really good stuff have flaws," and said the idea that everyone should be pure and perfect all the time needs to go away.
Barack added a hypothetical example of getting on Twitter and calling someone out for doing or saying something wrong, and then sitting back and feeling satisfied about it.44 says that's not activism and it's not enough to bring change, or as he puts it ... "If all you're doing is casting stones, you're probably not going to get that far."https://www.tmz.com/2019/10/30/barack-obama-woke-call-out-culture-not-activism/
Quote from: ᴍʀ. ᴛʜᴏᴍᴀs-ʙᴇᴄᴋʜᴀᴍ on October 30, 2019, 08:27:19 PM
Tuh!
https://twitter.com/iamgmjohnson/status/1189639384024440833
:-/
Because it's the Obamas...I'll leave it alone
Damn sound like he is talking about BSource
Speak King
g
nigga shut yo non-born-us citizen ass up nd show us them papers of wat RLLY happen in afrika
sayin sumn!
'tween him, hilary & bill standin' at aretha's funeral...gorl
tha dems are demons
soon to go to jail!
Tuh!
https://twitter.com/iamgmjohnson/status/1189639384024440833
:-/
Because it's the Obamas...I'll leave it alone
Oh bet you happy to hear this huh!
God the Bamas on my side
fck u fro
Michelle's comment sounds like a typical "be all you can be" line a guidance counselor would give a lazy student. I'm not seeing where she's perpetuating respectability politics in that, but I'm sure folks are already upset about it because their favorite verified twitter activists told them they should be.
but grr how dare she n stuff
:udontlookok:
And they twisted his words. He didn't say anything about "woke culture."
To me, being "woke" means being aware. Nothing wrong with that
He's right about "call-out culture." If sitting on Twitter attacking someone who opposes your views and you arent doing any work beyond that, than yes, it's a problem. Social media has become one big of one-upmanship.
At the same time, I'm not going sit there all meek and subservient, and hope that someday they see the error of their ways. Sometimes you gotta be more Malcom than Martin and come at that neck. Yes, at a stranger, across the INTERNET! Cause sometimes that's all it takes.
Quote from: animmai. on October 30, 2019, 08:37:08 PM
Michelle's comment sounds like a typical "be all you can be" line a guidance counselor would give a lazy student. I'm not seeing where she's perpetuating respectability politics in that, but I'm sure folks are already upset about it because their favorite verified twitter activists told them they should be.
but grr how dare she n stuff
:udontlookok:
I see it as her mirroring what her husband was during his presidency. Two terms of him hoping the other side "comes along" and tip-toeing, hoping not to offend the white folk who supported/supports him.
There are books to sell after all.
And niggers don't read
Quote from: ᴍʀ. ᴛʜᴏᴍᴀs-ʙᴇᴄᴋʜᴀᴍ on October 30, 2019, 08:39:09 PM
And they twisted his words. He didn't say anything about "woke culture."
To me, being "woke" means being aware. Nothing wrong with that
He's right about "call-out culture." If sitting on Twitter attacking someone who opposes your views and you arent doing any work beyond that, than yes, it's a problem. Social media has become one big of one-upmanship.
At the same time, I'm not going sit there all meek and subservient, and hope that someday they see the error of their ways. Sometimes you gotta be more Malcom than Martin and come at that neck. Yes, at a stranger, across the INTERNET! Cause sometimes that's all it takes.
this
The "woke" and the "call out culture" are two different things imo
Of course there will always be people who take things too far and it becomes annoying, but that's the small minority, either way the "woke" era has opened a lot of people's eyes and minds.
It's done a lot of good, you just have to filter out the pretentious
Quote from: Puakenikeni on October 30, 2019, 08:44:52 PM
Quote from: SoRockIt on October 30, 2019, 08:43:10 PM
Being "woke" and the "call out culture" are two different things imo
Of course there will always be people who take things too far but the "woke" has opened a lot of people's eyes a minds.
Call out culture and "wokeness" are often intertwined IMO :disgusted:
t4p
Faggot
Girl we all know you have an issue with the woke culture
That's your business hun', it's done a lot of good
Quote from: ᴍʀ. ᴛʜᴏᴍᴀs-ʙᴇᴄᴋʜᴀᴍ on October 30, 2019, 08:40:26 PM
Quote from: animmai. on October 30, 2019, 08:37:08 PM
Michelle's comment sounds like a typical "be all you can be" line a guidance counselor would give a lazy student. I'm not seeing where she's perpetuating respectability politics in that, but I'm sure folks are already upset about it because their favorite verified twitter activists told them they should be.
but grr how dare she n stuff
:udontlookok:
I see it as her mirroring what her husband was during his presidency. Two terms of him hoping the other side "comes along" and tip-toeing, hoping not to offend the white folk who supported/supports him.
There are books to sell after all.
And niggers don't read
And I'm sorry...thinking about it more, this shit is irresponsible for someone like her to say. Cause ALL we've done is do exactly what she said when it comes to THEM, and what has it gotten us?
someone tell Afro to STFU
Afro, STFU
Im woke so I know whats really REAL
Quote from: Puakenikeni on October 30, 2019, 08:41:37 PM
I def think there's woke and then there's "woke".
This def spoke more to the latter than the former.
yup. And cancel culture, throwing stones and claiming to be an activist
actively throwing stones and pointing the finger to get someone canceled isn't activism
Quote from: ᴍʀ. ᴛʜᴏᴍᴀs-ʙᴇᴄᴋʜᴀᴍ on October 30, 2019, 08:50:29 PM
Quote from: ᴍʀ. ᴛʜᴏᴍᴀs-ʙᴇᴄᴋʜᴀᴍ on October 30, 2019, 08:40:26 PM
Quote from: animmai. on October 30, 2019, 08:37:08 PM
Michelle's comment sounds like a typical "be all you can be" line a guidance counselor would give a lazy student. I'm not seeing where she's perpetuating respectability politics in that, but I'm sure folks are already upset about it because their favorite verified twitter activists told them they should be.
but grr how dare she n stuff
:udontlookok:
I see it as her mirroring what her husband was during his presidency. Two terms of him hoping the other side "comes along" and tip-toeing, hoping not to offend the white folk who supported/supports him.
There are books to sell after all.
And niggers don't read
And I'm sorry...thinking about it more, this shit is irresponsible for someone like her to say. Cause ALL we've done is do exactly what she said when it comes to THEM, and what has it gotten us?
I understand the frustrations and respectability politics is def' something her husband blatantly pushed during his presidency, but I don't know what the detractors want next. Begging white people to acknowledge your humanity doesn't seem to work and neither does taking to the streets and burning some shit down. I saw Michelle's comment as a simple "keep your eye on the prize".
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Quote from: animmai. on October 30, 2019, 09:05:55 PM
Quote from: ᴍʀ. ᴛʜᴏᴍᴀs-ʙᴇᴄᴋʜᴀᴍ on October 30, 2019, 08:50:29 PM
Quote from: ᴍʀ. ᴛʜᴏᴍᴀs-ʙᴇᴄᴋʜᴀᴍ on October 30, 2019, 08:40:26 PM
Quote from: animmai. on October 30, 2019, 08:37:08 PM
Michelle's comment sounds like a typical "be all you can be" line a guidance counselor would give a lazy student. I'm not seeing where she's perpetuating respectability politics in that, but I'm sure folks are already upset about it because their favorite verified twitter activists told them they should be.
but grr how dare she n stuff
:udontlookok:
I see it as her mirroring what her husband was during his presidency. Two terms of him hoping the other side "comes along" and tip-toeing, hoping not to offend the white folk who supported/supports him.
There are books to sell after all.
And niggers don't read
And I'm sorry...thinking about it more, this shit is irresponsible for someone like her to say. Cause ALL we've done is do exactly what she said when it comes to THEM, and what has it gotten us?
I understand the frustrations and respectability politics is def' something her husband blatantly pushed during his presidency, but I don't know what the detractors want next. Begging white people to acknowledge your humanity doesn't seem to work and neither does taking to the streets and burning some shit down. I saw Michelle's comment as a simple "keep your eye on the prize".
(https://media.giphy.com/media/FLmThiWkfsLOo/giphy.gif)
EXACTLY! :dead:
As far as what Barack said, the power of "call out culture" gets grossly overstated :dead: if it actually worked the way people think it does, the Kardashian empire would've crumbled years ago, Kanye would be in a psych ward somewhere chewing on a pillow and we probably would've gotten Donny's ass out of office by now.
Other than Harvey Weinstein and R Kelly, no one has lost their entire career and livelihood behind some tweets from some self righteous niggas on twitter.
Quote from: SoRockIt on October 30, 2019, 08:43:10 PM
The "woke" and the "call out culture" are two different things imo
Of course there will always be people who take things too far and it becomes annoying, but that's the small minority, either way the "woke" era has opened a lot of people's eyes and minds.
It's done a lot of good, you just have to filter out the pretentious
The Obamas keep attacking "cancel culture" because they are scared of being held accountableQuoteA few days ago, my feed, TL and story were covered with the Obama's at their Foundation Summit in Chicago. Michelle went viral for saying that being a good person is the best way to show racists the error of their ways. Meanwhile, Barack lectured young people that activism is not the same as what many refer to as "cancel culture."
I was shocked at how many Black people I saw who seemed to agree with the former president and first lady, mainly because these same people also claim to support the broader Movement for Black Lives. It made me wonder about who defines movements, where the hard lines are drawn, and where we separate enemies from allies in our fight for freedom.
By interrogating the support and rejection of "cancel culture," I think we can better understand the differences between those who only desire to minimize oppression and those who desire to bring about justice.
"Cancel culture" is mass organization against a figure to reject and reshape their harmful behaviors. Its critics says that people who subscribe to it are using perfectionist standards that keep good people from working towards freedom. Labeling others as participating in "cancel culture" defines them as unreasonable and out of touch with the basic reality that good people make mistakes and that mistakes should not disqualify you from the fight to end oppression.
But the basic premise of these critiques is steeped in elitist domination, telling others that they have bad politics while assuming a lack of thoughtfulness and deliberateness. But where these critiques of "cancel culture" are truly revealing – and why I find them so contradictory to the broader Movement for Black Lives – is in how they validate a stereotype of "wokeness" that undermines all deviance, defiance, and resistance work.
While I agree that abusive behaviors are in line with many of the oppressions that we fight to be liberated from, people who are abusive and judgmental need to be addressed everywhere – not just among those on the political and radical left who have adopted the language of activists, which is what framing this as "cancel culture" does. We must be wary of those who reinforce our oppressions by targeting the victims, which undermines healthy community practices of transparency and vulnerability.
Michelle has told us to "go high" when we are attacked and abused, and most recently to just be a good human. I appreciate these perspectives within loving communities, but not, as Son of Baldwin says, when it comes to those who disagree with "oppression, denial of my humanity and right to exist." Barack decided that "woke" people will never accomplish change because they're misguided about what activism is really about, but he is a man who pump faked support for Palestine; who started his political career supporting LGBTQIA+ people, then stopped, then started supporting marriage equality; who campaigned on change we can believe in and claims DACA as a triumph while having deported more people than every other administration and laid the foundations for what we see in ICE today.
As Howard Bryant (@hbryant42) shared on twitter: "It always feels like Obama's admonishments are more pronounced, spirited for the people who supported him than the ones directed at those who undermined him when he was in office and try to undo his policies now that he's not." A similar point was made by Cathy Cohen and the Black Youth Project, who in 2013 were forced to petition the then-president to get him to address gun violence in Chicago – the same city where the Obamas comments were made.
The Obamas use "cancel culture" as an excuse for not stating plainly that they refuse to be held accountable to nor establish solidarity with those of us who want to end oppression and fight for justice. The Obamas embody the elitism in the "cancel culture" conversation – those whose desperation for hierarchy ends in telling people "you can't teach me, heal me, or help me – whether I hurt you or not."
We must also support survivors of the many abuses and oppressions that plague our lives, homes, nation, and world. Among the many things we must do to support survivors is listen to them, stand in solidarity with them, and be accountable for our words and deeds. Categorizing groups of people under a banner of "cancel culture" contradicts our ability to listen to the needs and grievances of vulnerable people.
So when Michelle tells you to be nice and Barack tells you to be quiet, don't co-sign them. They have so much to be accountable for, and accountability-culture sometimes does start with a cancel.
http://blackyouthproject.com/the-obamas-keep-attacking-cancel-culture-because-they-are-scared-of-being-held-accountable/?fbclid=IwAR2P2s6fE6cRBolz8mmyLXMrvpWWkcYaNAap4sLDJXPq79MwJRZ90PnI78c
I think there is a lack of focus. Everyone should put that energy they have on Twitter in supporting their favorite candidate for the presidency. Politicians have the power to change things. Protesting is good but there should be more diversity in the senate. Cory Booker will probably not going to be a President but he is one of the few out there who actually stands up for Afro Americans and LGBTQ rights.. These old white dudes (especially Republicans) are racist and evil. How can you run a country with a Pence, Graham or Mitch McConnell + a cheeto idiot?
At least the Obamas tried to change something..they had a positive message, diversity, inclusive. Barack had to work with these people to get things done, the same way Corey is doing that right now. It is something I couldn't do but I guess if you are a politician it is needed. I do think people should be a lot more vocal about racism and it doesn't hurt to cancel a racist. Learn the hard way that bad behavior will give you bad karma.
I don't understand why 'black' media would want to throw them under the bus tho. You actually need people in power to change things. Barack Obama might not always have the best opinion but it is a lot better than Trump. Same with the Democrats dragging other Democrat candidates. It is really a time to unite and it should be Everyone vs Republicans/Trump. These articles and the negativity is just distracting from the real goal, to kick the cheeto out!
Quote from: Kalifornia. on November 07, 2019, 03:54:37 PM
The Obamas keep attacking "cancel culture" because they are scared of being held accountable
QuoteA few days ago, my feed, TL and story were covered with the Obama's at their Foundation Summit in Chicago. Michelle went viral for saying that being a good person is the best way to show racists the error of their ways. Meanwhile, Barack lectured young people that activism is not the same as what many refer to as "cancel culture."
I was shocked at how many Black people I saw who seemed to agree with the former president and first lady, mainly because these same people also claim to support the broader Movement for Black Lives. It made me wonder about who defines movements, where the hard lines are drawn, and where we separate enemies from allies in our fight for freedom.
By interrogating the support and rejection of "cancel culture," I think we can better understand the differences between those who only desire to minimize oppression and those who desire to bring about justice.
"Cancel culture" is mass organization against a figure to reject and reshape their harmful behaviors. Its critics says that people who subscribe to it are using perfectionist standards that keep good people from working towards freedom. Labeling others as participating in "cancel culture" defines them as unreasonable and out of touch with the basic reality that good people make mistakes and that mistakes should not disqualify you from the fight to end oppression.
But the basic premise of these critiques is steeped in elitist domination, telling others that they have bad politics while assuming a lack of thoughtfulness and deliberateness. But where these critiques of "cancel culture" are truly revealing – and why I find them so contradictory to the broader Movement for Black Lives – is in how they validate a stereotype of "wokeness" that undermines all deviance, defiance, and resistance work.
While I agree that abusive behaviors are in line with many of the oppressions that we fight to be liberated from, people who are abusive and judgmental need to be addressed everywhere – not just among those on the political and radical left who have adopted the language of activists, which is what framing this as "cancel culture" does. We must be wary of those who reinforce our oppressions by targeting the victims, which undermines healthy community practices of transparency and vulnerability.
Michelle has told us to "go high" when we are attacked and abused, and most recently to just be a good human. I appreciate these perspectives within loving communities, but not, as Son of Baldwin says, when it comes to those who disagree with "oppression, denial of my humanity and right to exist." Barack decided that "woke" people will never accomplish change because they're misguided about what activism is really about, but he is a man who pump faked support for Palestine; who started his political career supporting LGBTQIA+ people, then stopped, then started supporting marriage equality; who campaigned on change we can believe in and claims DACA as a triumph while having deported more people than every other administration and laid the foundations for what we see in ICE today.
As Howard Bryant (@hbryant42) shared on twitter: "It always feels like Obama's admonishments are more pronounced, spirited for the people who supported him than the ones directed at those who undermined him when he was in office and try to undo his policies now that he's not." A similar point was made by Cathy Cohen and the Black Youth Project, who in 2013 were forced to petition the then-president to get him to address gun violence in Chicago – the same city where the Obamas comments were made.
The Obamas use "cancel culture" as an excuse for not stating plainly that they refuse to be held accountable to nor establish solidarity with those of us who want to end oppression and fight for justice. The Obamas embody the elitism in the "cancel culture" conversation – those whose desperation for hierarchy ends in telling people "you can't teach me, heal me, or help me – whether I hurt you or not."
We must also support survivors of the many abuses and oppressions that plague our lives, homes, nation, and world. Among the many things we must do to support survivors is listen to them, stand in solidarity with them, and be accountable for our words and deeds. Categorizing groups of people under a banner of "cancel culture" contradicts our ability to listen to the needs and grievances of vulnerable people.
So when Michelle tells you to be nice and Barack tells you to be quiet, don't co-sign them. They have so much to be accountable for, and accountability-culture sometimes does start with a cancel.
http://blackyouthproject.com/the-obamas-keep-attacking-cancel-culture-because-they-are-scared-of-being-held-accountable/?fbclid=IwAR2P2s6fE6cRBolz8mmyLXMrvpWWkcYaNAap4sLDJXPq79MwJRZ90PnI78c
Points were made!
:flamebroiled:
We love Kingbama :letsmessfag: and Oprah
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shut up Mays