https://twitter.com/chrstnavelli/status/1222875473476235264
https://twitter.com/JessiTaylorRO/status/1222916712309362688
Excerpt:
The story of the music industry is one of young artists getting ripped off, again and again, because they are too young to understand the contracts they have signed until it is too late. What is different in Kelis's case, she says, is that it was her friends who ripped her off.
"I was told we were going to split the whole thing 33/33/33, which we didn't do," she says. Instead, she says, she was "blatantly lied to and tricked", pointing specifically to "the Neptunes and their management and their lawyers and all that stuff". As a result, she says she made nothing from sales of her first two albums, which were produced by the Neptunes. But she did not notice for a few years, because she was making money from touring, "and just the fact that I wasn't poor felt like enough", she says. She sighs: "Their argument is: 'Well, you signed it.' I'm like: 'Yeah, I signed what I was told, and I was too young and too stupid to double-check it.'" (Pharrell and Hugo did not respond to repeated requests for comment.)
And they were your friends so you trusted them, I say.
"Yeah, it's amazing," she shrugs.
She doesn't sound angry. "No, I'm just stating the facts," she says. I ask why she isn't angry.
"To be honest with you, I think if it were not for my faith, I feel like that would probably be the case. It's very clear to me, especially being on a farm, that whatever you put in the ground, that is what's going to come back to you," she says.
Things eventually came crashing down, she says, when she made her third album, Tasty, and decided to work with a variety of producers, not just the Neptunes, "and I could tell they were really offended".
But she has seen Pharrell. A few years back, he was performing at an industry event and she was in the audience. "And he did that thing to me that he's notorious for, which is making a nod from the stage [to someone in the audience], so it seems like there's mutual respect, when in reality ..." She throws her head back and laughs. "I'm like, OK, I'm not going to yell back: 'You stole all my publishing!' So you end up nodding back and everyone thinks everything's great. Like, whatever."
Would she work with him again? She looks at me as if I have asked if she would jump into a shark tank: "Ummm, at that point there's having faith and there is also just stupidity."
They didn't really do much tho
Milkshake was epic. So many movies used that song plus it was a hit when it was released.
I mean I know everyone says I was young!!!
But damn none of these girls had SOMEONE look at it? I was always taught read anything you sign
TLC and Toni told the girls in the 90s so it was no excuse.
Quote from: ton on January 30, 2020, 02:28:40 PM
I mean I know everyone says I was young!!!
But damn none of these girls had SOMEONE look at it? I was always taught read anything you sign
How many teenagers or people in their early twenties do you know that have a lawyer on retainer?
The gorls of today have it alot easier cause they can learn from all the stories we've heard of artists getting ripped off :plzstop:
Yup they'll NEVER work together again
Quote from: Freeruu on January 30, 2020, 01:55:28 PM
Would she work with him again? She looks at me as if I have asked if she would jump into a shark tank: "Ummm, at that point there's having faith and there is also just stupidity."
lock this
im honestly fucking pissed
Oh wow
Quote from: Naomi Hit Me on January 30, 2020, 02:45:15 PM
Yup they'll NEVER work together again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKUwcCp7LPE
QuoteThings eventually came crashing down, she says, when she made her third album, Tasty, and decided to work with a variety of producers, not just the Neptunes, "and I could tell they were really offended".
But she has seen Pharrell. A few years back, he was performing at an industry event and she was in the audience. "And he did that thing to me that he's notorious for, which is making a nod from the stage [to someone in the audience], so it seems like there's mutual respect, when in reality ..." She throws her head back and laughs. "I'm like, OK, I'm not going to yell back: 'You stole all my publishing!' So you end up nodding back and everyone thinks everything's great. Like, whatever."
I jus
https://www.instagram.com/p/B79HLXpBa94/
Amerie fightingwith Rich
Pharrell scamming Kelis
Brandy beefing with Darkchild
I just...
Quote from: Naomi Hit Me on January 30, 2020, 04:22:55 PM
Amerie fightingwith Rich
Pharrell scamming Kelis
Brandy beefing with Darkchild
I just...
Wasn't Aaliyah beefing with Tim right before she passed too? :dead:
Quote from: animmai. on January 30, 2020, 04:24:02 PM
Quote from: Naomi Hit Me on January 30, 2020, 04:22:55 PM
Amerie fightingwith Rich
Pharrell scamming Kelis
Brandy beefing with Darkchild
I just...
Wasn't Aaliyah beefing with Tim right before she passed too? :dead:
she was?!
Is that why he never had a heavy presence on the red album?
:plzstop:
Quote from: Naomi Hit Me on January 30, 2020, 04:22:55 PM
Amerie fightingwith Rich
Pharrell scamming Kelis
Brandy beefing with Darkchild
I just...
:loose2when:
Quote from: Naomi Hit Me on January 30, 2020, 04:24:36 PM
Quote from: animmai. on January 30, 2020, 04:24:02 PM
Quote from: Naomi Hit Me on January 30, 2020, 04:22:55 PM
Amerie fightingwith Rich
Pharrell scamming Kelis
Brandy beefing with Darkchild
I just...
Wasn't Aaliyah beefing with Tim right before she passed too? :dead:
she was?!
Is that why he never had a heavy presence on the red album?
:plzstop:
Yes
Quote from: Naomi Hit Me on January 30, 2020, 04:24:36 PM
Quote from: animmai. on January 30, 2020, 04:24:02 PM
Quote from: Naomi Hit Me on January 30, 2020, 04:22:55 PM
Amerie fightingwith Rich
Pharrell scamming Kelis
Brandy beefing with Darkchild
I just...
Wasn't Aaliyah beefing with Tim right before she passed too? :dead:
she was?!
Is that why he never had a heavy presence on the red album?
:plzstop:
It was more Barry not wanting to pay Tim and Mis. Not sure why they was beefing after the tracks was done.
I thought it was something about him feeling some type of of way about her not making the songs he produced singles :dead:
Quote from: animmai. on January 30, 2020, 04:28:09 PM
I thought it was something about him feeling some type of of way about her not making the songs he produced singles :dead:
thats what I thought too
But then like 80% of her singles were Tim produced
Quote from: animmai. on January 30, 2020, 04:28:09 PM
I thought it was something about him feeling some type of of way about her not making the songs he produced singles :dead:
He had the first single and More Than a Women would have been second or third single so I don't think that was why.
This is actually disappointing as a fan to read. Damn I'm a huge Kelis and Neptunes fans and always felt there was some slight beef we wasn't aware of. Glad is out now but wack they'll never work together again
Kelis is kind of a flop though, and didn't write that much on the first 2 albums so what exactly was she expecting to get?Wanderland was shelved in the US and sold less than 100k
Quote from: 89 on January 30, 2020, 05:42:07 PM
Kelis is kind of a flop though, and didn't write that much on the first 2 albums so what exactly was she expecting to get?Wanderland was shelved in the US and sold less than 100k
her publishing
Quote from: 89 on January 30, 2020, 05:42:07 PM
Kelis is kind of a flop though, and didn't write that much on the first 2 albums so what exactly was she expecting to get?Wanderland was shelved in the US and sold less than 100k
That's what i was thinking. She started makin when when the albums started doing well BUT I get signing a bad contract and getting NO money tho
Pharrell is an interesting case. He's clearly an industry puppet cause his music has never been that good to get placement after placement on all these artists' singles and albums. He can rush to collab with Camilla but he had a hand in shutting a black woman out from the industry? Trash
Quote from: Naomi Hit Me on January 30, 2020, 04:22:55 PM
Amerie fightingwith Rich
Pharrell scamming Kelis
Brandy beefing with Darkchild
I just...
Brandy has a new beef with darkchild?
Quote from: ICON on January 30, 2020, 05:44:55 PM
He's clearly an industry puppet cause his music has never been that good to get placement after placement on all these artists' singles and albums.
The cis really have terrible taste
Didn't the shits flop tho?
Damn fuck Pharrell
I mean whether they flopped or not they generated SOMETHING
Run Queen her 2k
Aw man
Well that's fine tbh
Food is a masterpiece so I want more of THAT
I'm tired of this broke bitch. Always after someone ELSE
Quote from: Young on January 30, 2020, 07:02:02 PM
Aw man
Well that's fine tbh
Food is a masterpiece so I want more of THAT
your taste is rude
Quote from: Ulysses on January 30, 2020, 07:02:44 PM
I'm tired of this broke bitch. Always after someone ELSE
always?
Who else has she been after?
Quote from: Naomi Hit Me on January 30, 2020, 07:02:58 PM
Quote from: Young on January 30, 2020, 07:02:02 PM
Aw man
Well that's fine tbh
Food is a masterpiece so I want more of THAT
your taste is rude
Is rude a synonym for terrible over there
Quote from: Naomi Hit Me on January 30, 2020, 07:03:17 PM
Quote from: Ulysses on January 30, 2020, 07:02:44 PM
I'm tired of this broke bitch. Always after someone ELSE
always?
Who else has she been after?
Let's not pretend she isn't making a living off of Nas' income
Quote from: Ulysses on January 30, 2020, 07:10:42 PM
Quote from: Naomi Hit Me on January 30, 2020, 07:03:17 PM
Quote from: Ulysses on January 30, 2020, 07:02:44 PM
I'm tired of this broke bitch. Always after someone ELSE
always?
Who else has she been after?
Let's not pretend she isn't making a living off of Nas' income
She's making a living off her publishing and restaurants as well
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on January 30, 2020, 02:33:21 PM
Quote from: ton on January 30, 2020, 02:28:40 PM
I mean I know everyone says I was young!!!
But damn none of these girls had SOMEONE look at it? I was always taught read anything you sign
How many teenagers or people in their early twenties do you know that have a lawyer on retainer?
The gorls of today have it alot easier cause they can learn from all the stories we've heard of artists getting ripped off :plzstop:
those contracts can't be that hard to understand :hmph:
If it was, the only question she needed to ask was HOW MUCH DO I GET PAID
Quote from: Naomi Hit Me on January 30, 2020, 06:57:16 PM
I mean whether they flopped or not they generated SOMETHING
Run Queen her 2k
Yet she probably paid NOTHING to have the mess produced.
She's not owed a thing.
Quote from: Vonc2002 on January 30, 2020, 07:03:57 PM
Quote from: Naomi Hit Me on January 30, 2020, 07:02:58 PM
Quote from: Young on January 30, 2020, 07:02:02 PM
Aw man
Well that's fine tbh
Food is a masterpiece so I want more of THAT
your taste is rude
Is rude a synonym for terrible over there
fgghhh
young stays stanning for Crumbs
Quote from: TinaSnow on January 30, 2020, 08:32:08 PM
Quote from: Naomi Hit Me on January 30, 2020, 06:57:16 PM
I mean whether they flopped or not they generated SOMETHING
Run Queen her 2k
Yet she probably paid NOTHING to have the mess produced.
She's not owed a thing.
what do how why
You're a fucking idiot and I'd get a refund from that university you claim you went to
Quote from: Naomi Hit Me on January 30, 2020, 08:36:45 PM
Quote from: TinaSnow on January 30, 2020, 08:32:08 PM
Quote from: Naomi Hit Me on January 30, 2020, 06:57:16 PM
I mean whether they flopped or not they generated SOMETHING
Run Queen her 2k
Yet she probably paid NOTHING to have the mess produced.
She's not owed a thing.
what do how why
Girl what?
Quote from: Ulysses on January 30, 2020, 07:10:42 PM
Quote from: Naomi Hit Me on January 30, 2020, 07:03:17 PM
Quote from: Ulysses on January 30, 2020, 07:02:44 PM
I'm tired of this broke bitch. Always after someone ELSE
always?
Who else has she been after?
Let's not pretend she isn't making a living off of Nas' income
She's good without that alcoholic loon
QuoteCourt records suggest that the "Milkshake" singer garnered $922,840 from her entertainment and touring company, MyKnight, Inc., and her food product business, Feast Enterprises, as indicated by The Blast. She additionally detailed that she holds $691,153.22 in her ledgers and claims $1,374,000 in property.
She also announced that she just acquired $9,000 for music eminences in 2017. She made $21,000 in sovereignties in 2016.
Quote from: calamaree on January 31, 2020, 12:27:14 AM
Quote from: Ulysses on January 30, 2020, 07:10:42 PM
Quote from: Naomi Hit Me on January 30, 2020, 07:03:17 PM
Quote from: Ulysses on January 30, 2020, 07:02:44 PM
I'm tired of this broke bitch. Always after someone ELSE
always?
Who else has she been after?
Let's not pretend she isn't making a living off of Nas' income
She's good without that alcoholic loon
QuoteCourt records suggest that the "Milkshake" singer garnered $922,840 from her entertainment and touring company, MyKnight, Inc., and her food product business, Feast Enterprises, as indicated by The Blast. She additionally detailed that she holds $691,153.22 in her ledgers and claims $1,374,000 in property.
She also announced that she just acquired $9,000 for music eminences in 2017. She made $21,000 in sovereignties in 2016.
oop
America is capitalistic, employees in every industry are literally getting raped financially everyday. This is why the margins from between the rich and poor grow year over year. Luckily, Kelis is in an industry where employees make a lot of money, and with success can take control within a couple of years.
The reality is, is that it is extremely hard to get signed to a record label. Kelis was not an Alicia Keys or Mariah Carey, where she was going to have multiple deals or a bidding war. Even if she knew what the contract said, there is a strong probability that she would have still signed it. While it is wrong, she did not lose. Imagine being a one hit wonder in this same situation.