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Title: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: tigernathan on December 24, 2015, 04:41:26 PM
Chris Brown - 139k
Monica - 32k

:udontlookok:

At first I thought it was a lack of promo but... I'm beginning to think it's the demographic

Thoughts?
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: AIDS! on December 24, 2015, 04:45:22 PM
Lack of promo
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: Code Red: itsMista on December 24, 2015, 04:47:18 PM
Iman, go wrap some fucking gifts are so. Do something with yourself.
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: tigernathan on December 24, 2015, 04:48:30 PM
Quote from: Didyouevenknowversace? on December 24, 2015, 04:45:22 PM
Lack of promo

Both did promo though like :ohwow: wtf
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: SUPREME on December 24, 2015, 04:51:28 PM
What about all the white pop stars that flop

:udontlookok:
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: AIDS! on December 24, 2015, 04:51:59 PM
Quote from: imaan. on December 24, 2015, 04:48:30 PM
Quote from: Didyouevenknowversace? on December 24, 2015, 04:45:22 PM
Lack of promo

Both did promo though like :ohwow: wtf
I think there's a lack of interest
No behind the scenes,no interviews, no exclusives ect
There isn't a platform on Tv for urban music
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: Myron on December 24, 2015, 04:52:11 PM
I mean....those numbers aren't surprising.
Mon is not making good music.

And Chris should be Iconic right now. But rih happened.

Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: Myron on December 24, 2015, 04:53:22 PM
When mon had a hit... ( everything to me)

And when Chris had a hit (deuces)

Regardless of their situations... They sold.
Good music speaks for itself
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: Annie on December 24, 2015, 04:53:57 PM
I need Frank Ocean to release that album
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: BAPHOMET. on December 24, 2015, 04:54:17 PM
Quote from: SUPREME on December 24, 2015, 04:51:28 PM
What about all the white pop stars that flop

:udontlookok:

!

Like Ke$ha, Xtina, etc for instance 

:udontlookok:
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: tigernathan on December 24, 2015, 04:55:04 PM
Quote from: SUPREME on December 24, 2015, 04:51:28 PM
What about all the white pop stars that flop

:udontlookok:

Like who?  :ohwow:

At least they have many artists who go platinum.
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: Herb. on December 24, 2015, 05:07:38 PM
QuoteSerious discussion
im sorry but

a
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: whatever on December 24, 2015, 05:12:52 PM
I'm being serious...

Did Monica even have a music video?

NVM just looked it up, she did...it only has 1million views...Thats horrible for a first single. I was watching her BC interview and they said the song was a hit but it was a silent one. Monica didn't have any hype.

I think she's at a place of being in this game for so long people think oh heard one album heard them all.

I actually liked New Life better...
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: Zankou. on December 24, 2015, 05:16:22 PM
D

Everything you said is MOOT then
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: Zankou. on December 24, 2015, 05:16:44 PM
Muderous life was disgusting
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: whatever on December 24, 2015, 05:21:29 PM
Quote from: Saturn. on December 24, 2015, 05:16:44 PM
Muderous life was disgusting


I actually hated it when it first came out, but played it about 2 months ago and was like wowww...I like this nnnn

Take a chance
time to move on
big mistake
time to move on
amazing
until its gone
cry

:flamebroiled: :flamebroiled: :flamebroiled: :plzstop:
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: tigernathan on December 24, 2015, 05:22:18 PM
Quote from: Saturn. on December 24, 2015, 05:16:22 PM
D

Everything you said is MOOT then

Ex fucking plain

bitch
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: mauza on December 24, 2015, 05:24:52 PM
Quote from: itsMista on December 24, 2015, 04:47:18 PM
Iman, go wrap some fucking gifts are so. Do something with yourself.

fffffffff
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: Zankou. on December 24, 2015, 05:25:11 PM
Lol that wasn't for you but fuck u
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: #Mu7 on December 24, 2015, 05:28:55 PM
It's a two tiered issue.

The first issue is the genre and it's supporter. R&B in its "heyday" was majority backed even by the white consumers and that's the issue.

The other issue is that they are not allowed to promote properly.
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: BrokenHeartsHeal on December 24, 2015, 05:32:09 PM
Quote from: Myron on December 24, 2015, 04:52:11 PM
I mean....those numbers aren't surprising.
Mon is not making good music.

And Chris should be Iconic right now. But rih happened.

Yeah past tense. Now where is Antee
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: Kaeli. on December 24, 2015, 05:42:20 PM
No. I just don't think ppl were interested in Mon' this time around. My mom's a huge stan & she paid her dust this time around. I think it may have something to do with her HATING New Life :justabit:
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: Kaeli. on December 24, 2015, 05:43:38 PM
Also we kinda have no where for these niggers to promote. Where's 106? Bring it back! :flamebroiled:
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: Ulysses on December 24, 2015, 06:02:42 PM
It is a little of both.

R&B releases for the most part were awful this year. Look at the most recent ones for instance: R.Kelly, Chris Brown, Monica.... they were all a damn mess.

I really hope someone is gonna come along soon and really bring the genre back though. Maybe with Beyonc? most likely dropping the 1st quarter can help Jumpstart the process!
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: Mel. on December 24, 2015, 06:06:07 PM
Quote from: Ulysses on December 24, 2015, 06:02:42 PM
It is a little of both.

R&B releases for the most part were awful this year. Look at the most recent ones for instance: R.Kelly, Chris Brown, Monica.... they were all a damn mess.

I really hope someone is gonna come along soon and really bring the genre back though. Maybe with Beyonc? most likely dropping the 1st quarter can help Jumpstart the process!

how is Beyonce gonna resurrect R&B when she's not even an R&B artist anymore?
she's a pop girl now
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: BAPHOMET. on December 24, 2015, 06:08:32 PM
Quote from: #ROYALTY on December 24, 2015, 06:06:07 PM
Quote from: Ulysses on December 24, 2015, 06:02:42 PM
It is a little of both.

R&B releases for the most part were awful this year. Look at the most recent ones for instance: R.Kelly, Chris Brown, Monica.... they were all a damn mess.

I really hope someone is gonna come along soon and really bring the genre back though. Maybe with Beyonc? most likely dropping the 1st quarter can help Jumpstart the process!

how is Beyonce gonna resurrect R&B when she's not even an R&B artist anymore?
she's a pop girl now

There's only one pop song on Self-Titled and she hadn't made a pop song since IASF.

She's R&B/Urban/and a Spitz of Pop.
(http://i.imgur.com/PQNp90W.gif)
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: SouravMay on December 24, 2015, 06:10:14 PM
R&B like we knew it is over.

1993-2007 was the time for R&B. Just like disco, funk and any other genre had their turn. R&B had a long, strong and healthy run and is turning into a genre of back in the day.
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: Mel. on December 24, 2015, 06:10:19 PM
Quote from: Baphomet. on December 24, 2015, 06:08:32 PM
Quote from: #ROYALTY on December 24, 2015, 06:06:07 PM
Quote from: Ulysses on December 24, 2015, 06:02:42 PM
It is a little of both.

R&B releases for the most part were awful this year. Look at the most recent ones for instance: R.Kelly, Chris Brown, Monica.... they were all a damn mess.

I really hope someone is gonna come along soon and really bring the genre back though. Maybe with Beyonc? most likely dropping the 1st quarter can help Jumpstart the process!

how is Beyonce gonna resurrect R&B when she's not even an R&B artist anymore?
she's a pop girl now

There's only one pop song on Self-Titled and she hadn't made a pop song since IASF.

She's R&B/Urban/and a Spitz of Pop.
(http://i.imgur.com/PQNp90W.gif)

loll well...
she's no longer under the r&b genre anymore on itunes. she's under pop

so i guess the gorls consider her just that nowadays
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: Mel. on December 24, 2015, 06:10:52 PM
and she might as well be.
she doesnt show up to urban award shows anymore
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: SouravMay on December 24, 2015, 06:12:48 PM
Miguel, Jazmine Sullivan, Jeremih all released critically acclaimed albums and did disgusting numbers.
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: Ulysses on December 24, 2015, 06:12:54 PM
Oh. You don't show to the Lady of Soul awards, so you are not an R&B artist :dead:
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: Mel. on December 24, 2015, 06:16:06 PM
she doesn't show up for ANY urban award show.
she's not considered r&b anymore...

it is what it is..
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: Zankou. on December 24, 2015, 06:16:36 PM
Miguel's album was CATASTROPHIC
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: SouravMay on December 24, 2015, 06:18:22 PM
Quote from: Saturn. on December 24, 2015, 06:16:36 PM
Miguel's album was CATASTROPHIC

I hate it too, but it was appreciated by the critics.
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: yummy on December 24, 2015, 06:18:32 PM
Well, Chris doesn't make "slave music" so I figured all of the non-slaves would show out and support...guess not.

:udontlookok:
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: Young on December 24, 2015, 06:20:25 PM
It's NIGGERS

If it ain't rap; they don't really support like that.

And Chris has a lot of White fans too to keep him afloat
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: Mel. on December 24, 2015, 06:22:17 PM
they did.
and thus why his sales shitted on every other urban release this year

:)
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: Mel. on December 24, 2015, 06:23:27 PM
Quote from: Young on December 24, 2015, 06:20:25 PM
It's NIGGERS

If it ain't rap; they don't really support like that.

And Chris has a lot of White fans too to keep him afloat

that's because his audience >>>
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: SouravMay on December 24, 2015, 06:24:17 PM
I find it a little strange to blame it on black people. I do not agree with that.

It is easy math.

IF blacks actually are the main ones buying black artist's music and whites for whites then the following applies.

Blacks make up 12-13% of the US population. While white people make up roughly 70% of the US population. So more than four times as many people in the United States are white than black.

That means by default a white person is expected to sell four times as much or even more than a black counterpart. So if you manage to do half, or a quarter of a white act you are perfectly fine.

JB: 522k
CB: 140k

He did exactly what is expected when you look at the black/white ratio in the United States.
:receipts:
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: yummy on December 24, 2015, 06:24:22 PM
Quote from: Young on December 24, 2015, 06:20:25 PM

And Chris has a lot of White fans too to keep him afloat

f

then why is he ranting on raving on twitter about not being appreciated?  :uhh:
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: Sinpool on December 24, 2015, 06:24:28 PM
If you wanna get technical R&B acts actually do better than pop acts who havent established themselves as a big name.

I mean Call Me Maybe was HUGE, but Carly Rae Jepsen's last two albums flopped to the pits of hell.

I just think people aren't selling.
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: asdfghjkl on December 24, 2015, 06:25:03 PM
i miss 106&park only place for the urban acts to go and promote and now it's gone

BET ain't shit for that tbqfh

and where the fuck is KeKe's Talk Show ?

BET needs some new promotional mess for the artists
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: Mel. on December 24, 2015, 06:25:49 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on December 24, 2015, 06:24:22 PM
Quote from: Young on December 24, 2015, 06:20:25 PM

And Chris has a lot of White fans too to keep him afloat

f

then why is he ranting on raving on twitter about not being appreciated?  :uhh:

because he isn't and you'll simply deal.
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: Mel. on December 24, 2015, 06:26:13 PM
I'm sure many of you steal his albums.
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: Sinpool on December 24, 2015, 06:28:39 PM
Just look at the top selling Female albums of the year.
1. ADELE "25"- 5,980,000
2. Taylor Swift "1989"- 1,910,000
3. Meghan Trainor "Title" - 970,000
4. Carrie Underwood "Storyteller" - 405,000
5. Nicki Minaj "The Pinkprint" - 381,000
6. ADELE "21" - 305,000
7. Halsey "Badlands" - 231,000
8. Sia "1000 Forms of Fear" - 223,000
9. Carrie Underwood "Greatest Hits Decade #1" - 218,000
10. Madonna "Rebel Heart" - 216,000
11. Janet Jackson "Unbreakable" - 212,000
12. Selena Gomez "Revival" - 208,000
13. Kelly Clarkson "Piece by Piece" - 206,000
14. Reba "Love Somebody"- 182,000
15. Lana del Rey "Honeymoon" - 180,000


Nobody is selling shit
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: yummy on December 24, 2015, 06:29:04 PM
do we know is bby royalty is still alive
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: Nine on December 24, 2015, 06:29:42 PM
Black people are only half the equation.

The other half is your faves and their terrible ass music.
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: yummy on December 24, 2015, 06:32:51 PM
Quote from: Lion Babe on December 24, 2015, 06:28:39 PM
Just look at the top selling Female albums of the year.
1. ADELE "25"- 5,980,000
2. Taylor Swift "1989"- 1,910,000
3. Meghan Trainor "Title" - 970,000
4. Carrie Underwood "Storyteller" - 405,000
5. Nicki Minaj "The Pinkprint" - 381,000
6. ADELE "21" - 305,000
7. Halsey "Badlands" - 231,000
8. Sia "1000 Forms of Fear" - 223,000
9. Carrie Underwood "Greatest Hits Decade #1" - 218,000
10. Madonna "Rebel Heart" - 216,000
11. Janet Jackson "Unbreakable" - 212,000
12. Selena Gomez "Revival" - 208,000
13. Kelly Clarkson "Piece by Piece" - 206,000
14. Reba "Love Somebody"- 182,000
15. Lana del Rey "Honeymoon" - 180,000


Nobody is selling shit

Like I said before, outside of Adull and Taylor, no one is moving units like that.

This isn't the early 2000's anymore. The music industry as a whole is dying.
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: Mel. on December 24, 2015, 06:33:53 PM
its still more units than the majority of blacks are moving...
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: SUPREME on December 24, 2015, 06:34:13 PM
(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/money/2010/02/02/news/companies/napster_music_industry/chart_music.top.gif)

Yes black people are the problem

All the genres of music and r&b definitely accounted for 99.9 of it and its sales
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: Mel. on December 24, 2015, 06:35:19 PM
and FYI..
a lot of those albums came out last year, they're only tallying this years sales.

so if you factor this year and last year together they are slaying. a lot of them are platinum
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: Nine on December 24, 2015, 06:36:19 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on December 24, 2015, 06:32:51 PM
Quote from: Lion Babe on December 24, 2015, 06:28:39 PM
Just look at the top selling Female albums of the year.
1. ADELE "25"- 5,980,000
2. Taylor Swift "1989"- 1,910,000
3. Meghan Trainor "Title" - 970,000
4. Carrie Underwood "Storyteller" - 405,000
5. Nicki Minaj "The Pinkprint" - 381,000
6. ADELE "21" - 305,000
7. Halsey "Badlands" - 231,000
8. Sia "1000 Forms of Fear" - 223,000
9. Carrie Underwood "Greatest Hits Decade #1" - 218,000
10. Madonna "Rebel Heart" - 216,000
11. Janet Jackson "Unbreakable" - 212,000
12. Selena Gomez "Revival" - 208,000
13. Kelly Clarkson "Piece by Piece" - 206,000
14. Reba "Love Somebody"- 182,000
15. Lana del Rey "Honeymoon" - 180,000


Nobody is selling shit

Like I said before, outside of Adull and Taylor, no one is moving units like that.

This isn't the early 2000's anymore. The music industry as a whole is dying.
wow

I guess it hit urban music harder once it lost mainstream appeal. Geez all these big/established names and they ain't seeing certs?

:omgwatshappening:
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: SouravMay on December 24, 2015, 06:36:26 PM
Demi, Ariana, Meghan, Carly Rae are still EONS above Sevyn, Teyana, Jhene, Tinashe, Mila as far as exposure, hit singles, album sales etc is concerned.

But that is to be explained with 12% being black and 70% being white in the USA, it is to be expected.
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: asdfghjkl on December 24, 2015, 06:37:54 PM
Quote from: Nine on December 24, 2015, 06:36:19 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on December 24, 2015, 06:32:51 PM
Quote from: Lion Babe on December 24, 2015, 06:28:39 PM
Just look at the top selling Female albums of the year.
1. ADELE "25"- 5,980,000
2. Taylor Swift "1989"- 1,910,000
3. Meghan Trainor "Title" - 970,000
4. Carrie Underwood "Storyteller" - 405,000
5. Nicki Minaj "The Pinkprint" - 381,000
6. ADELE "21" - 305,000
7. Halsey "Badlands" - 231,000
8. Sia "1000 Forms of Fear" - 223,000
9. Carrie Underwood "Greatest Hits Decade #1" - 218,000
10. Madonna "Rebel Heart" - 216,000
11. Janet Jackson "Unbreakable" - 212,000
12. Selena Gomez "Revival" - 208,000
13. Kelly Clarkson "Piece by Piece" - 206,000
14. Reba "Love Somebody"- 182,000
15. Lana del Rey "Honeymoon" - 180,000


Nobody is selling shit

Like I said before, outside of Adull and Taylor, no one is moving units like that.

This isn't the early 2000's anymore. The music industry as a whole is dying.
wow

I guess it hit urban music harder once it lost mainstream appeal. Geez all these big/established names and they ain't seeing certs?

:omgwatshappening:

Quote from: #ROYALTY on December 24, 2015, 06:35:19 PM
and FYI..
a lot of those albums came out last year, they're only tallying this years sales.

so if you factor this year and last year together they are slaying. a lot of them are platinum

.
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: SUPREME on December 24, 2015, 06:38:37 PM
Quote from: Rajesha on December 24, 2015, 06:36:26 PM
Demi, Ariana, Meghan, Carly Rae are still EONS above Sevyn, Teyana, Jhene, Tinashe, Mila as far as exposure, hit singles, album sales etc is concerned.

But that is to be explained with 12% being black and 70% being white in the USA, it is to be expected.
and them being pop artist help that

If urban were as big as it were a decade ago, a lot of these urban artist would have much more exposure

Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: Mel. on December 24, 2015, 06:39:09 PM
12% is still a lot.
so lets not act like thats the issue.

12% ain't buying those albums. possibly 5% could be the actual buyers
the others could be downloading..
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: yummy on December 24, 2015, 06:40:18 PM
Quote from: Nine on December 24, 2015, 06:36:19 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on December 24, 2015, 06:32:51 PM
Quote from: Lion Babe on December 24, 2015, 06:28:39 PM
Just look at the top selling Female albums of the year.
1. ADELE "25"- 5,980,000
2. Taylor Swift "1989"- 1,910,000
3. Meghan Trainor "Title" - 970,000
4. Carrie Underwood "Storyteller" - 405,000
5. Nicki Minaj "The Pinkprint" - 381,000
6. ADELE "21" - 305,000
7. Halsey "Badlands" - 231,000
8. Sia "1000 Forms of Fear" - 223,000
9. Carrie Underwood "Greatest Hits Decade #1" - 218,000
10. Madonna "Rebel Heart" - 216,000
11. Janet Jackson "Unbreakable" - 212,000
12. Selena Gomez "Revival" - 208,000
13. Kelly Clarkson "Piece by Piece" - 206,000
14. Reba "Love Somebody"- 182,000
15. Lana del Rey "Honeymoon" - 180,000


Nobody is selling shit

Like I said before, outside of Adull and Taylor, no one is moving units like that.

This isn't the early 2000's anymore. The music industry as a whole is dying.
wow

I guess it hit urban music harder once it lost mainstream appeal. Geez all these big/established names and they ain't seeing certs?

:omgwatshappening:

The only artists on that list that have gone platinum this year are Adele and Taylor

:plzstop:
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: Nine on December 24, 2015, 06:41:06 PM
Quote from: Manny on December 24, 2015, 06:37:54 PM
Quote from: Nine on December 24, 2015, 06:36:19 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on December 24, 2015, 06:32:51 PM
Quote from: Lion Babe on December 24, 2015, 06:28:39 PM
Just look at the top selling Female albums of the year.
1. ADELE "25"- 5,980,000
2. Taylor Swift "1989"- 1,910,000
3. Meghan Trainor "Title" - 970,000
4. Carrie Underwood "Storyteller" - 405,000
5. Nicki Minaj "The Pinkprint" - 381,000
6. ADELE "21" - 305,000
7. Halsey "Badlands" - 231,000
8. Sia "1000 Forms of Fear" - 223,000
9. Carrie Underwood "Greatest Hits Decade #1" - 218,000
10. Madonna "Rebel Heart" - 216,000
11. Janet Jackson "Unbreakable" - 212,000
12. Selena Gomez "Revival" - 208,000
13. Kelly Clarkson "Piece by Piece" - 206,000
14. Reba "Love Somebody"- 182,000
15. Lana del Rey "Honeymoon" - 180,000


Nobody is selling shit

Like I said before, outside of Adull and Taylor, no one is moving units like that.

This isn't the early 2000's anymore. The music industry as a whole is dying.
wow

I guess it hit urban music harder once it lost mainstream appeal. Geez all these big/established names and they ain't seeing certs?

:omgwatshappening:

Quote from: #ROYALTY on December 24, 2015, 06:35:19 PM
and FYI..
a lot of those albums came out last year, they're only tallying this years sales.

so if you factor this year and last year together they are slaying. a lot of them are platinum

.
Only Sia, Nicki and Carrie's Greatest Hits came out last year. And 21 before all of em.

:udontlookok:
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: SUPREME on December 24, 2015, 06:41:45 PM
Quote from: #ROYALTY on December 24, 2015, 06:39:09 PM
12% is still a lot.
so lets not act like thats the issue.

12% ain't buying those albums. possibly 5% could be the actual buyers
the others could be downloading..
all 12% listen to music

Much less r&b?

:omgwatshappening:
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: SouravMay on December 24, 2015, 06:43:16 PM
Quote from: SUPREME on December 24, 2015, 06:38:37 PM
Quote from: Rajesha on December 24, 2015, 06:36:26 PM
Demi, Ariana, Meghan, Carly Rae are still EONS above Sevyn, Teyana, Jhene, Tinashe, Mila as far as exposure, hit singles, album sales etc is concerned.

But that is to be explained with 12% being black and 70% being white in the USA, it is to be expected.
and them being pop artist help that

If urban were as big as it were a decade ago, a lot of these urban artist would have much more exposure

yh the whole nobody sells theory is void, when the hierarchies are very evident. When back in the day a Teen Magazine would have Monica next to Britney Spear or Tyrese doing stuff with P!nk today pop gorls are on an entirely different level than R&B singers.
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: SUPREME on December 24, 2015, 06:43:32 PM
Anyways dunno what blaming black people is gonna do

Especially when you're black yourself

I guess that means everyone you surround yourselves with are the same people you're insulting?
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: Mel. on December 24, 2015, 06:43:41 PM
Meghan is platinum
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: Mel. on December 24, 2015, 06:45:08 PM
Quote from: SUPREME on December 24, 2015, 06:43:32 PM
Anyways dunno what blaming black people is gonna do

Especially when you're black yourself

I guess that means everyone you surround yourselves with are the same people you're insulting?

is kinda a proven fact
and I'm judging by my personal experience and people around me who all happen to be black

the majority of them download and look and me crazy when i say i buy albums.
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: Nine on December 24, 2015, 06:45:22 PM
Quote from: SUPREME on December 24, 2015, 06:43:32 PM
Anyways dunno what blaming black people is gonna do

Especially when you're black yourself

I guess that means everyone you surround yourselves with are the same people you're insulting?
n

They're just tryna find someone to place the blame on for their faves floppage

:ATLcameo:
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: Mel. on December 24, 2015, 06:45:26 PM
its like its unheard of to actually buy music
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: Mel. on December 24, 2015, 06:47:15 PM
blacks just don't support each other and it is what it is..
and not just music...in other areas to

they'd rather tear each other down that build each other up
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: yummy on December 24, 2015, 06:47:31 PM
b
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: Mel. on December 24, 2015, 06:47:35 PM
yall actually do it here all the time.
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: Sinpool on December 24, 2015, 06:47:48 PM
Quote from: #ROYALTY on December 24, 2015, 06:45:08 PM
Quote from: SUPREME on December 24, 2015, 06:43:32 PM
Anyways dunno what blaming black people is gonna do

Especially when you're black yourself

I guess that means everyone you surround yourselves with are the same people you're insulting?

is kinda a proven fact
and I'm judging by my personal experience and people around me who all happen to be black

the majority of them download and look and me crazy when i say i buy albums.

So you're basing this assumption that 40 million Black Americans don't buy music based off the handful of blacks you know?

:ohwow:
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: Nine on December 24, 2015, 06:47:48 PM
v

That's happened to me with white people. When I said I bought 25, they looked at me crazy too

Guess it's a proven fact that crackers don't buy music either
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: Mel. on December 24, 2015, 06:48:29 PM
but then be the first to speak about how blacks are treated in the media,. etc..
but dont realize yall are part of the problem
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: Mel. on December 24, 2015, 06:49:25 PM
Quote from: Lion Babe on December 24, 2015, 06:47:48 PM
Quote from: #ROYALTY on December 24, 2015, 06:45:08 PM
Quote from: SUPREME on December 24, 2015, 06:43:32 PM
Anyways dunno what blaming black people is gonna do

Especially when you're black yourself

I guess that means everyone you surround yourselves with are the same people you're insulting?

is kinda a proven fact
and I'm judging by my personal experience and people around me who all happen to be black

the majority of them download and look and me crazy when i say i buy albums.

So you're basing this assumption that 40 million Black Americans don't buy music based off the handful of blacks you know?

:ohwow:

its more than a handful
and im pretty sure if its happened to me, its happened to others
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: Sinpool on December 24, 2015, 06:50:25 PM
m

that's just...DUMB

Black people don't share the same damn brain.
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: Mel. on December 24, 2015, 06:51:32 PM
and i mean...
the bootleggers that stand on the corner selling ripped and burned albums for $5

only do it in the black community. I've never seen them outside my community
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: SUPREME on December 24, 2015, 06:52:11 PM
Quote from: #ROYALTY on December 24, 2015, 06:48:29 PM
but then be the first to speak about how blacks are treated in the media,. etc..
but dont realize yall are part of the problem
Mel I could take this a little more serious if you didn't openly admit to having a vendetta against Beyonce and a bit of Rihanna when Chris is involved
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: SUPREME on December 24, 2015, 06:53:20 PM
Quote from: Nine on December 24, 2015, 06:47:48 PM
v

That's happened to me with white people. When I said I bought 25, they looked at me crazy too

Guess it's a proven fact that crackers don't buy music either
wow yeah cause my white bestie blasts that alber and proudly says she bootlegged it

:young:
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: mauza on December 24, 2015, 06:54:21 PM
it's dead guys. acrobatic vocals don't sell anymore.

I think rnb needs a major revamp like incorporate new influences and stuff.

I really hope Brandy's next album will take a pop direction or sis will have to deal with the same dramatic sales numbers.
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: Mel. on December 24, 2015, 06:54:34 PM
Quote from: SUPREME on December 24, 2015, 06:52:11 PM
Quote from: #ROYALTY on December 24, 2015, 06:48:29 PM
but then be the first to speak about how blacks are treated in the media,. etc..
but dont realize yall are part of the problem
Mel I could take this a little more serious if you didn't openly admit to having a vendetta against Beyonce and a bit of Rihanna when Chris is involved

loll you may think i hate beyonce but i don't
once upon a time i used to buy her shit, but i stopped when i didn't care for her much anymore..

I don't dislike her, i just like to tug at her fans on here because they think she's god.
aI'm just having fun... don't have any ill will or wish anything bad on her
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: SouravMay on December 24, 2015, 06:55:51 PM
Quote from: mauza on December 24, 2015, 06:54:21 PM
it's dead guys. acrobatic vocals don't sell anymore.

they do if you have the right skin color.

:ohwow: :young:

Justin Bieber, Jessie J, Ed Sheeran, Ariana Grande, Adele, Meghan Trainor, are doing mighty fine with their "soulful" voices.
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: SUPREME on December 24, 2015, 06:57:18 PM
Quote from: #ROYALTY on December 24, 2015, 06:54:34 PM
Quote from: SUPREME on December 24, 2015, 06:52:11 PM
Quote from: #ROYALTY on December 24, 2015, 06:48:29 PM
but then be the first to speak about how blacks are treated in the media,. etc..
but dont realize yall are part of the problem
Mel I could take this a little more serious if you didn't openly admit to having a vendetta against Beyonce and a bit of Rihanna when Chris is involved


once upon a time i used to buy her shit, but i stopped when i didn't care for her much anymore..

(http://i50.tinypic.com/m9rvb7.jpg)
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: Mel. on December 24, 2015, 06:57:33 PM
and actually...
I've been very good about her lately.

I haven't made any threads or bashed her. I'm over that. I'm working on a better me
and thats no negativity. I don't want to even speak it. I'm removing all aspects of negativity in my life

I'm a brand new bitch. :)
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: Mel. on December 24, 2015, 06:58:26 PM
and I'm just loving me

:feelinmyself:
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: tigernathan on December 24, 2015, 06:58:29 PM
I really do think it comes down to blacks not buying. Sorry but it's all adding up!
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: Mel. on December 24, 2015, 06:59:29 PM
but i ain't pussy, so don't come for me and we cool...
i ain't there yet!

I'm working on it.
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: Nine on December 24, 2015, 06:59:51 PM
n
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: Mel. on December 24, 2015, 07:00:33 PM
Quote from: imaan. on December 24, 2015, 06:58:29 PM
I really do think it comes down to blacks not buying. Sorry but it's all adding up!

!!!
and its no shade

it just is what it is...
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: SouravMay on December 24, 2015, 07:02:01 PM
Are u guys slow?

JB: 520k
CB: 140k

Blacks make only 12% / Whites make 70%

So the numbers correlate perfectly with their demographic and skin color.
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: tigernathan on December 24, 2015, 07:04:00 PM
Are you?

QuoteIn 2014 US Census Bureau estimated 45,672,250 African Americans in the United States meaning that 14.3% of the total American population of 318.9 Million is Black.

Now explain these sales. The blacks aren't buying. It's that simple.
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: tigernathan on December 24, 2015, 07:04:23 PM
There should be a study on this.
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: Mel. on December 24, 2015, 07:05:07 PM
Quote from: Rajesha on December 24, 2015, 07:02:01 PM
Are u guys slow?

JB: 520k
CB: 140k

Blacks make only 12% / Whites make 70%

So the numbers correlate perfectly with their demographic and skin color.

gorl..are you? calm down...
that honestly just tells me blacks aren't buying and whites are

12% should still be able to do more than that, but his core audience don't buy!
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: Gilgamesh. on December 24, 2015, 07:05:14 PM
Quote from: Saturn. on December 24, 2015, 05:16:44 PM
Muderous life was disgusting

Hksbcvorsbfojrbfrjbsf
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: RekeRig on December 24, 2015, 07:05:22 PM
I've been seeing a few people say they prefer New life  :uhh: :dead:

It had good singles tho
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: RekeRig on December 24, 2015, 07:05:48 PM
Quote from: whatever on December 24, 2015, 05:21:29 PM
Quote from: Saturn. on December 24, 2015, 05:16:44 PM
Muderous life was disgusting


I actually hated it when it first came out, but played it about 2 months ago and was like wowww...I like this nnnn

Take a chance
time to move on
big mistake
time to move on
amazing


:flamebroiled: :flamebroiled: :flamebroiled: :plzstop:
ur taste  :dead: fucking YUCK
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: RekeRig on December 24, 2015, 07:08:06 PM
Quote from: Lion Babe on December 24, 2015, 06:28:39 PM
Just look at the top selling Female albums of the year.
1. ADELE "25"- 5,980,000
2. Taylor Swift "1989"- 1,910,000
3. Meghan Trainor "Title" - 970,000
4. Carrie Underwood "Storyteller" - 405,000
5. Nicki Minaj "The Pinkprint" - 381,000
6. ADELE "21" - 305,000
7. Halsey "Badlands" - 231,000
8. Sia "1000 Forms of Fear" - 223,000
9. Carrie Underwood "Greatest Hits Decade #1" - 218,000
10. Madonna "Rebel Heart" - 216,000
11. Janet Jackson "Unbreakable" - 212,000
12. Selena Gomez "Revival" - 208,000
13. Kelly Clarkson "Piece by Piece" - 206,000
14. Reba "Love Somebody"- 182,000
15. Lana del Rey "Honeymoon" - 180,000


Nobody is selling shit
yikes

Nicki aint even at 400K?  :uhh:
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: SouravMay on December 24, 2015, 07:08:51 PM
I used to be the biggest Monica stan literally until "Until It's Gone" that crappy duet.

This record I didn't bother to listen to more than once. Something about her voice is just OFF.. iono something happened, it is so dry and some of these sour ass notes.
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: Gilgamesh. on December 24, 2015, 07:09:45 PM
Quote from: #ROYALTY on December 24, 2015, 06:51:32 PM
and i mean...
the bootleggers that stand on the corner selling ripped and burned albums for $5

only do it in the black community. I've never seen them outside my community

Do people still do that? Sell bootleg CDs I mean?

The Chinese lady perches at my barber shop tambout "DVD!" I told her "gor, I have unlimited internet da hell I look like buying a film for ?5" 😂
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: mauza on December 24, 2015, 07:10:44 PM
Quote from: Rajesha on December 24, 2015, 06:55:51 PM
Quote from: mauza on December 24, 2015, 06:54:21 PM
it's dead guys. acrobatic vocals don't sell anymore.

they do if you have the right skin color.

:ohwow: :young:

Justin Bieber, Jessie J, Ed Sheeran, Ariana Grande, Adele, Meghan Trainor, are doing mighty fine with their "soulful" voices.

Justin has a 'soulful' voice?  :hmph:

Except Adele and Ariana I don't know the others singers You mentioned but I don't think it's a "race" issue. Beyonc? is black for example but her albums are selling very well and She has a huge fanbase composed of white people.

and I want u to know that Bert is a flop and a pedo btw.
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: FINE. on December 24, 2015, 07:11:32 PM
Quote from: mauza on December 24, 2015, 07:10:44 PM
Quote from: Rajesha on December 24, 2015, 06:55:51 PM
Quote from: mauza on December 24, 2015, 06:54:21 PM
it's dead guys. acrobatic vocals don't sell anymore.

they do if you have the right skin color.

:ohwow: :young:

Justin Bieber, Jessie J, Ed Sheeran, Ariana Grande, Adele, Meghan Trainor, are doing mighty fine with their "soulful" voices.

Justin has a 'soulful' voice?  :hmph:

Except Adele and Ariana I don't know the others singers You mentioned but I don't think it's a "race" issue. Beyonc? is black for example but her albums are selling very well and She has a huge fanbase composed of white people.

and I want u to know that Bert is a flop and a pedo btw.
cvvvvvbbbbb
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: SouravMay on December 24, 2015, 07:11:49 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on December 24, 2015, 07:09:45 PM
Quote from: #ROYALTY on December 24, 2015, 06:51:32 PM
and i mean...
the bootleggers that stand on the corner selling ripped and burned albums for $5

only do it in the black community. I've never seen them outside my community

Do people still do that? Sell bootleg CDs I mean?

The Chinese lady perches at my barber shop tambout "DVD!" I told her "gor, I have unlimited internet da hell I look like buying a film for ?5" 😂

It's a big thing for the black immigrants I know, the money I could make selling Bert, Bey DVD's, CD's... They eat them bootleg shits up.

:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: tigernathan on December 24, 2015, 07:11:55 PM
Quote from: Nine on December 24, 2015, 06:47:48 PM
v

That's happened to me with white people. When I said I bought 25, they looked at me crazy too

Guess it's a proven fact that crackers don't buy music either

Nigger, they looked at you crazy because they didn't expect your black ass would listen to Adele. Probably thought you listen Lil Wayne and Boosie.
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: mauza on December 24, 2015, 07:12:44 PM
Quote from: imaan. on December 24, 2015, 07:04:23 PM
There should be a study on this.
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: tigernathan on December 24, 2015, 07:12:52 PM
Quote from: Nine on December 24, 2015, 06:45:22 PM
Quote from: SUPREME on December 24, 2015, 06:43:32 PM
Anyways dunno what blaming black people is gonna do

Especially when you're black yourself

I guess that means everyone you surround yourselves with are the same people you're insulting?
n

They're just tryna find someone to place the blame on for their faves floppage

:ATLcameo:

Who do you blame for Mooriah's last couple of flops?
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: Nine on December 24, 2015, 07:13:55 PM
Quote from: imaan. on December 24, 2015, 07:11:55 PM
Quote from: Nine on December 24, 2015, 06:47:48 PM
v

That's happened to me with white people. When I said I bought 25, they looked at me crazy too

Guess it's a proven fact that crackers don't buy music either

Nigger, they looked at you crazy because they didn't expect your black ass would listen to Adele. Probably thought you listen Lil Wayne and Boosie.
sdddddddddddd

Nah these are ppl I know, they know I listen to K-Pop and mess

:supluv:
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: tigernathan on December 24, 2015, 07:14:29 PM
Quote from: RIG on December 24, 2015, 07:08:06 PM
Quote from: Lion Babe on December 24, 2015, 06:28:39 PM
Just look at the top selling Female albums of the year.
1. ADELE "25"- 5,980,000
2. Taylor Swift "1989"- 1,910,000
3. Meghan Trainor "Title" - 970,000
4. Carrie Underwood "Storyteller" - 405,000
5. Nicki Minaj "The Pinkprint" - 381,000
6. ADELE "21" - 305,000
7. Halsey "Badlands" - 231,000
8. Sia "1000 Forms of Fear" - 223,000
9. Carrie Underwood "Greatest Hits Decade #1" - 218,000
10. Madonna "Rebel Heart" - 216,000
11. Janet Jackson "Unbreakable" - 212,000
12. Selena Gomez "Revival" - 208,000
13. Kelly Clarkson "Piece by Piece" - 206,000
14. Reba "Love Somebody"- 182,000
15. Lana del Rey "Honeymoon" - 180,000


Nobody is selling shit
yikes

Nicki aint even at 400K?  :uhh:

cvvvvv

wtf Reba
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: Gilgamesh. on December 24, 2015, 07:15:17 PM
Why would anyone buy a Monica album though? She's very pretty but she doesn't sell sex. Her voice is good, but she's not marketed live a vocal diva the way Ariana or Adele are. She has no scandal and no reality show to promote her shit. Sonically what is she doing that we haven't heard before?
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: SouravMay on December 24, 2015, 07:15:25 PM
Quote from: mauza on December 24, 2015, 07:10:44 PM
Quote from: Rajesha on December 24, 2015, 06:55:51 PM
Quote from: mauza on December 24, 2015, 06:54:21 PM
it's dead guys. acrobatic vocals don't sell anymore.

they do if you have the right skin color.

:ohwow: :young:

Justin Bieber, Jessie J, Ed Sheeran, Ariana Grande, Adele, Meghan Trainor, are doing mighty fine with their "soulful" voices.

Justin has a 'soulful' voice?  :hmph:

Except Adele and Ariana I don't know the others singers You mentioned but I don't think it's a "race" issue. Beyonc? is black for example but her albums are selling very well and She has a huge fanbase composed of white people.

and I want u to know that Bert is a flop and a pedo btw.

Justin Bieber could be black lol, his voice and style is R&B downe. His image and exposure level is pop. But if he was black, he'd be classified as R&B.

And Beyonc? literally works 10 times as hard as the other gurs I mentioned, she had to bend over backwards to barely go platinum, while Taylor Swift, Adele do these numbers in their sleep.

And Bert is the most successful R&B act of the last 30 years, so if he is a "flop", the entire genre is.
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: tigernathan on December 24, 2015, 07:16:25 PM
Quote from: mauza on December 24, 2015, 07:10:44 PM
Quote from: Rajesha on December 24, 2015, 06:55:51 PM
Quote from: mauza on December 24, 2015, 06:54:21 PM
it's dead guys. acrobatic vocals don't sell anymore.

they do if you have the right skin color.

:ohwow: :young:

Justin Bieber, Jessie J, Ed Sheeran, Ariana Grande, Adele, Meghan Trainor, are doing mighty fine with their "soulful" voices.

Justin has a 'soulful' voice?  :hmph:

He sings just like all the other current R&B male singers honestly. Ed Sheeran too.

Just admit that white artists sell more because they're white and more appealing to the GP.
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: Nine on December 24, 2015, 07:17:01 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on December 24, 2015, 07:09:45 PM
Quote from: #ROYALTY on December 24, 2015, 06:51:32 PM
and i mean...
the bootleggers that stand on the corner selling ripped and burned albums for $5

only do it in the black community. I've never seen them outside my community

Do people still do that? Sell bootleg CDs I mean?

The Chinese lady perches at my barber shop tambout "DVD!" I told her "gor, I have unlimited internet da hell I look like buying a film for ?5" 😂
dssdddddmmm,l

Not her perching in the barbershop looking for sales of the movies she records on her camcorder
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: BAPHOMET. on December 24, 2015, 07:18:11 PM
Quote from: RIG on December 24, 2015, 07:08:06 PM
Quote from: Lion Babe on December 24, 2015, 06:28:39 PM
Just look at the top selling Female albums of the year.
1. ADELE "25"- 5,980,000
2. Taylor Swift "1989"- 1,910,000
3. Meghan Trainor "Title" - 970,000
4. Carrie Underwood "Storyteller" - 405,000
5. Nicki Minaj "The Pinkprint" - 381,000
6. ADELE "21" - 305,000
7. Halsey "Badlands" - 231,000
8. Sia "1000 Forms of Fear" - 223,000
9. Carrie Underwood "Greatest Hits Decade #1" - 218,000
10. Madonna "Rebel Heart" - 216,000
11. Janet Jackson "Unbreakable" - 212,000
12. Selena Gomez "Revival" - 208,000
13. Kelly Clarkson "Piece by Piece" - 206,000
14. Reba "Love Somebody"- 182,000
15. Lana del Rey "Honeymoon" - 180,000


Nobody is selling shit
yikes

Nicki aint even at 400K?  :uhh:

thats just how much she sold this year. She's close platinum.
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: BAPHOMET. on December 24, 2015, 07:19:13 PM
Beyonce is Multi-Plat

Just kinda dawned on me

(http://i56.tinypic.com/x4j9yv.gif)
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: tigernathan on December 24, 2015, 07:20:11 PM
Quote from: Rajesha on December 24, 2015, 07:15:25 PM
Quote from: mauza on December 24, 2015, 07:10:44 PM
Quote from: Rajesha on December 24, 2015, 06:55:51 PM
Quote from: mauza on December 24, 2015, 06:54:21 PM
it's dead guys. acrobatic vocals don't sell anymore.

they do if you have the right skin color.

:ohwow: :young:

Justin Bieber, Jessie J, Ed Sheeran, Ariana Grande, Adele, Meghan Trainor, are doing mighty fine with their "soulful" voices.

Justin has a 'soulful' voice?  :hmph:

Except Adele and Ariana I don't know the others singers You mentioned but I don't think it's a "race" issue. Beyonc? is black for example but her albums are selling very well and She has a huge fanbase composed of white people.

and I want u to know that Bert is a flop and a pedo btw.

Justin Bieber could be black lol, his voice and style is R&B downe. His image and exposure level is pop. But if he was black, he'd be classified as R&B.

And Beyonc? literally works 10 times as hard as the other gurs I mentioned, she had to bend over backwards to barely go platinum, while Taylor Swift, Adele do these numbers in their sleep.

And Bert is the most successful R&B act of the last 30 years, so if he is a "flop", the entire genre is.

!!! That's the thing too. They don't realize how hard Bey has to work just to scrap a platinum mess while Slim and Adelephant can book plat' right out the gate.
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: RekeRig on December 24, 2015, 07:20:43 PM
Quote from: #ROYALTY on December 24, 2015, 06:51:32 PM


only do it in the black community. I've never seen them outside my community
well thats just false
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: Nine on December 24, 2015, 07:21:18 PM
Quote from: Baphomet. on December 24, 2015, 07:19:13 PM
Beyonce is Multi-Plat

Just kinda dawned on me

(http://i56.tinypic.com/x4j9yv.gif)
WOW WOW

She is, isn't she
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Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: yummy on December 24, 2015, 07:21:29 PM
Quote from: imaan. on December 24, 2015, 07:11:55 PM
Quote from: Nine on December 24, 2015, 06:47:48 PM
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That's happened to me with white people. When I said I bought 25, they looked at me crazy too

Guess it's a proven fact that crackers don't buy music either

Nigger, they looked at you crazy because they didn't expect your black ass would listen to Adele. Probably thought you listen Lil Wayne and Boosie.

wtf  :uhh: sjdkfmdfmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: pCj on December 24, 2015, 07:22:05 PM
Quote from: #ROYALTY on December 24, 2015, 06:47:15 PM
blacks just don't support each other and it is what it is..

they'd rather tear each other down that build each other up
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Is this post supposed to be Exhibit A?

Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: Zankou. on December 24, 2015, 07:24:37 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on December 24, 2015, 07:21:29 PM
Quote from: imaan. on December 24, 2015, 07:11:55 PM
Quote from: Nine on December 24, 2015, 06:47:48 PM
v

That's happened to me with white people. When I said I bought 25, they looked at me crazy too

Guess it's a proven fact that crackers don't buy music either

Nigger, they looked at you crazy because they didn't expect your black ass would listen to Adele. Probably thought you listen Lil Wayne and Boosie.

wtf  :uhh: sjdkfmdfmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: FINE. on December 24, 2015, 07:24:39 PM
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Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: Nine on December 24, 2015, 07:25:42 PM
Quote from: Saturn. on December 24, 2015, 07:24:37 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on December 24, 2015, 07:21:29 PM
Quote from: imaan. on December 24, 2015, 07:11:55 PM
Quote from: Nine on December 24, 2015, 06:47:48 PM
v

That's happened to me with white people. When I said I bought 25, they looked at me crazy too

Guess it's a proven fact that crackers don't buy music either

Nigger, they looked at you crazy because they didn't expect your black ass would listen to Adele. Probably thought you listen Lil Wayne and Boosie.

wtf  :uhh: sjdkfmdfmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

HAHAHSSHSHSHXHXHUSSHAHAHHCHCHCHCHCHXHCHSHAHAHAHSGXGCGCCHXHXHXHCH
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'man is so rude

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Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: SUPREME on December 24, 2015, 07:26:33 PM
I don't understand

So if we acknowledge the fact that white artist sell easily, especially given the fact that the majority of the U.S. Is Caucasian

Why is it such an issue that blacks aren't selling as much

Especially given the music sales climate these days

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Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: Mel. on December 24, 2015, 07:26:44 PM
Quote from: RIG on December 24, 2015, 07:20:43 PM
Quote from: #ROYALTY on December 24, 2015, 06:51:32 PM


only do it in the black community. I've never seen them outside my community
well thats just false

well, i am speaking from my experience.
Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: Nine on December 24, 2015, 07:26:46 PM
Quote from: FINE. on December 24, 2015, 07:24:39 PM
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Title: Re: So is it the consumers or the R&B genre? Serious discussion
Post by: RekeRig on December 24, 2015, 07:30:03 PM
Quote from: FINE. on December 24, 2015, 07:24:39 PM
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