Has R&B become reductive?

Started by GYNandTONIC, December 13, 2015, 08:51:57 AM

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Bentley!

Quote from: inluvwitbran on December 14, 2015, 02:03:58 AM
Quote from: whatever on December 14, 2015, 01:56:04 AM
Quote from: Bentley! on December 13, 2015, 02:05:52 PM
And speaking of Usher

question  ... why did he take Justin Bieber under his wing instead of a young talented black boy :dead:

So if anything karma came back around and a white man sold better with a song similar to his. I don't feel bad for him :kii:

:feelinmyself:
Usher took plenty of Black artists under his wing
most notably Rico Love
Try again guys!
:feelinmyself:
this is a read within itself
Rico is a flop as an artist :dead:

yea.. wow... I kinda debunked your whole theory in here

how does that feel
:feelinmyself:

RAY7

Quote from: Bentley! on December 14, 2015, 02:08:03 AM
Quote from: inluvwitbran on December 14, 2015, 02:03:58 AM
Quote from: whatever on December 14, 2015, 01:56:04 AM
Quote from: Bentley! on December 13, 2015, 02:05:52 PM
And speaking of Usher

question  ... why did he take Justin Bieber under his wing instead of a young talented black boy :dead:

So if anything karma came back around and a white man sold better with a song similar to his. I don't feel bad for him :kii:

:feelinmyself:
Usher took plenty of Black artists under his wing
most notably Rico Love
Try again guys!
:feelinmyself:
this is a read within itself
Rico is a flop as an artist :dead:

yea.. wow... I kinda debunked your whole theory in here

how does that feel
:feelinmyself:
you didn't though
you asked why Usher didn't take a young Black artist under his wing
I debunked YOUR theory because in fact he did
WAAAAY back in 2004 when Justin was a toddler
Rico flopping on proves my point. Usher signed a black and white artist
but people only bought the white boy's music
smh

:feelinmyself:

RAY7

Usher also signed the group One Chance by the way
and put them in his movie and videos at the time
AND go his little brother James a hit with producing Lloyd's Get It Shawty
and Diddy Dirty Money's Lookin For Love
AND he has the New Look Foundation where he mentors young black kids and teaches them the skills to get in the business
King Ush is so philanthropic especially towards Black ppl!
:feelinmyself:

Herb.

ray ur av is disrespectful :ohwow: and ive reported it :wellheythere:

whatever

Remember when Justin had the one less nigger video and Usher put on his cape and said "one thing Justin's no racist "

He don't love himself :feelinmyself:

demitri.petty

Y'all have inspired me to become a black country singer... Go ahead and laugh but I'm serious lol..

MAY



GYNandTONIC

December 14, 2015, 05:02:22 AM #143 Last Edit: December 14, 2015, 05:03:18 AM by GYNandTONIC
Quote from: Bentley! on December 13, 2015, 03:26:31 PM
Quote from: Boys Don't Cry on December 13, 2015, 03:25:14 PM
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name one black rnb artist that would record Hello or Water Under The Bridge or Love in The Dark
Jazmine, Fantasia, maybe Faith, possibly Tamia
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gorl I wholeheartedly disagree :dead:

especially 'Tasia :kii:
You would.
????
sss Jayd' c'mon now... you know none of those gorls would record a Hello type record, c'mon now gorl :dead: :kii:

I think all those ladies would record Hello. It would sound diffrent because of their vocal approaches. Tamia would sound most like the record.

Hello is a soul ballad. You cant compare it to modern r&b because its a older cut! Phylis Hymn and Roberta Flack are two black singers who def used this style among dozens. Its like yall are just giving the white man our legacy by calling this shit pop. This isnt Tiffany or a Duran Duran ballad.

There's a reason why the background singers and musicians on stage with Adele are predominately black! Its black music guys! LISTEN TO JOES COVER... SAME SONG.....AINT SHIT POP ABOUT IT.

GYNandTONIC

December 14, 2015, 05:13:01 AM #144 Last Edit: December 14, 2015, 05:15:51 AM by GYNandTONIC
I think ultimately black R&B acts need to shift back to lyrics of substance. That seems to work in this music climate.

Its a reason why Frank was choosen over chris.
There's a reason why Weeknd got a Rolling Stone cover and Trey didnt.

We can make this about white people but I think the truth is Urban R&B is boring. No body wants that legs to the sky /cant raise a man music but these ratchets and strippers for their sets.

You may not get as many sales but awards and industry respect counts for something. Kendrick isnt selling more than future but he's getting Taylor videos and 11 Grammy nominations. His lyrics has substance.

The urban approach is fucking DEAD!


AIDS!

Quote from: GYNandTONIC on December 14, 2015, 05:02:22 AM
Quote from: Bentley! on December 13, 2015, 03:26:31 PM
Quote from: Boys Don't Cry on December 13, 2015, 03:25:14 PM
Quote from: Bentley! on December 13, 2015, 03:24:28 PM
Quote from: Boys Don't Cry on December 13, 2015, 03:18:47 PM
Quote from: Bentley! on December 13, 2015, 03:15:28 PM
ssssssss



name one black rnb artist that would record Hello or Water Under The Bridge or Love in The Dark
Jazmine, Fantasia, maybe Faith, possibly Tamia
ssssssssssss

gorl I wholeheartedly disagree :dead:

especially 'Tasia :kii:
You would.
????
sss Jayd' c'mon now... you know none of those gorls would record a Hello type record, c'mon now gorl :dead: :kii:

I think all those ladies would record Hello. It would sound diffrent because of their vocal approaches. Tamia would sound most like the record.

Hello is a soul ballad. You cant compare it to modern r&b because its a older cut! Phylis Hymn and Roberta Flack are two black singers who def used this style among dozens. Its like yall are just giving the white man our legacy by calling this shit pop. This isnt Tiffany or a Duran Duran ballad.

There's a reason why the background singers and musicians on stage with Adele are predominately black! Its black music guys! LISTEN TO JOES COVER... SAME SONG.....AINT SHIT POP ABOUT IT.
????


AIDS!

Quote from: TriBeCa on December 14, 2015, 01:55:37 AM
Radio and tv, bust mostly radio. Can't deny its power on pop culture. So few corporations control all stations. Clear Channel being one, which is why their festival is always so star studded. With how many R&B acts exactly? ^o) We need GOOD music programming. We don't know who these artists are anymore. We just see photos of them and read what is told to us. What happened to Making The Video, Spring Break, Diary, music countdowns with interviews and performances, artists favorite video countdowns, ALBUM RELEASE SPECIALS, random shows with celebrity appearances. MTV was the shit one time. It was the number 1 station for an entire teenage/young adult generation, pre-internet launch.It was Brandy's music that captured me, buy her personality and aura that made me fall in love. She was so cute, unique, cool, beyond talented, outgoing. We all got to witness that. The magazine covers/endorsements didn't hurt so much either. ^_^ Same thing applies to other huge R&B acts at the time. Sorry for the rant. Lol.