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[klappa.]

Those differences have to play a part in the way we accept him back.

no they don't. those "differences" are nothing more than attempts to justify a double standard, tbh

[The Only BLACK Kalmyks]

someone's influence/power does matter

look at the backlash Oprah got for going after those Black men with those specials she was doing

it was way easier for HER to brush mess under the rug because she's "Oprah". people were more willing to forgive her and let it go because she's "Oprah". Her career survived the HIT of backlash because she's "Oprah".

It really does matter and make a huge difference.

doesn't make anyone less or more wrong...it's just the way it works.

[klappa.]

someone's influence/power does matter

only if u allow it to. it's a choice. and its a double standard. nothing is changing that fact.

kanye is so talented, i have NO CHOICE but to forgive him

nah

[The Only BLACK Kalmyks]

someone's influence/power does matter

only if u allow it to.

who said i allow it to? im simply aware of how things work in the real world. lol

i thought the gorls were wondering why kanye is still thriving

thats what i was answering.

how things work in general. and brought Oprah...who is a bLack woman....to the conversation

Black women get away with things too as well if they have enough influence and money.

[The Only BLACK Kalmyks]

i think ur real concern really should be why people with lots of money and power get to do what they want.

cuz if u talk to mo'nique she'll definitely tell you that Oprah got away with a lot of mess she did to her AND her family because she's "Oprah".
she's said it a million times.

this is a clout convo, not really gender.

if u just wanna stick up for Black women...i'm all for that
i have a laundry list of things we can talk about and we can dig in

[klappa.]

someone's influence/power does matter

only if u allow it to.

i thought the gorls were wondering why kanye is still thriving

no we weren't. we know its a double standard. we established that in my chrisette v. kanye thread

and the excuses being made in here for him again only reiterate that point.

[klappa.]

someone's influence/power does matter

only if u allow it to.

who said i allow it to?

speaking in general hun

[The Only BLACK Kalmyks]

someone's influence/power does matter

only if u allow it to.

i thought the gorls were wondering why kanye is still thriving

no we weren't. we know its a double standard.

double standard based on gender?

[klappa.]

i think ur real concern really should be why people with lots of money and power get to do what they want.

that's always a concern of mine, but has no relevance to the topic i presented

[klappa.]

someone's influence/power does matter

only if u allow it to.

i thought the gorls were wondering why kanye is still thriving

no we weren't. we know its a double standard.

double standard based on gender?

popularity. gender plays a part as well.

[The Only BLACK Kalmyks]

someone's influence/power does matter

only if u allow it to.

who said i allow it to?

speaking in general hun

well u must be typing from disneyland

cuz it's not about people "allowing" power and influence to matter

power and influence have real effects which many cannot opt-out of when they feel like it.

mo'nique didn't "allow" Oprah's influence to overshadow what she did to her family
Oprah basically did what she wanted to do and all Mo'nique could scrream as loud as she could afterwards HOPING someone would hear her over the audience cheers for Oprah lol.

[klappa.]

someone's influence/power does matter

only if u allow it to.

who said i allow it to?

speaking in general hun

well u must be typing from disneyland

cuz it's not about people "allowing" power and influence to matter

when it comes to forgiving someone and choosing to support them again, yes it is about allowing, which is what i specifically stated i was referring to

don't remove my statements from the context in which they were made in order to digress bby

[L0NZ.]

Those differences have to play a part in the way we accept him back.

those "differences" are nothing more than attempts to justify a double standard, tbh

No they aren't.

The acceptance of an entertainer back into our households is solely reliant on what they are feeding us with for that is the measure by which we value them......... because they are entertainers. That's why I made the distinction between accepting an apology and leaving it there, and allowing a disgraced entertainer to prosper again. Chrisette isnt worried about you or me accepting her apology. She's questioning why she doesn't have a seat at that table anymore, but Kanye does. And the obvious answer is what have you done for us lately?

[The Only BLACK Kalmyks]

someone's influence/power does matter

only if u allow it to.

who said i allow it to?

speaking in general hun

well u must be typing from disneyland

cuz it's not about people "allowing" power and influence to matter

when it comes to forgiving someone and choosing to support them again, yes it is about allowing, which is what i specifically stated i was referring to

don't remove my statements from the context in which they were made in order to digress bby

u literally said power and influence doesn't matter unless u allow it to.

it's right in this quote thread we're in right now luv. review it

im saying that's not true. if we're speaking in general - which u said we are.

[L0NZ.]

someone's influence/power does matter

only if u allow it to. it's a choice. and its a double standard. nothing is changing that fact.

Based on what? Oprah is a woman