Jay Z is getting dragged for comparing Beyoncé to MJ

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https://youtube.com/watch?v=UuRXrab1S4c

Any fucking questions?


MJ could never.
dance to a rap song? :plzstop:
out perform her or give this for 2 straight hours
she didn't give this for 2 straight hours she paced herself throughout  dndndndj
And yes MJ in his prime did, again and again and again
You are delusional and she def gave this for 2 hours. She had a few ballads and that's it.
You're a hater. I can't imagine you ever being impartial.
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this youtube video in the OP :dead:


was this woman deepthroating her mic under water

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Quote from: RAY7 on December 22, 2021, 09:58:14 AM
Michael definitely had the better music videos so I would say he has the "visuals"
Bey obviously has the vocals, Mike has the dance ability. I think Bey has the best mix of singing/dance ability combined. It's pretty much even as far as performing goes
yeah i can get with this easily.

MJ's visuals were top tier and still hold up and that was back in the damn early 80's

:plzstop:

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December 24, 2021, 12:36:52 AM #246 Last Edit: December 24, 2021, 12:37:19 AM by Somebody's RIG
Quote from: PRESSED on December 22, 2021, 11:29:30 AM
Quote from: RAY7 on December 22, 2021, 09:58:14 AM
Michael definitely had the better music videos so I would say he has the "visuals"
Bey obviously has the vocals, Mike has the dance ability. I think Bey has the best mix of singing/dance ability combined. It's pretty much even as far as performing goes
Other than Remember the Time, Billie and Thriller, what videos that he has that can sit with Beyonces visuals?
we can't just take away 3 of the biggest and greatest music videos of all time to fit an agenda tho. Those are the blueprints like you said. Black is King is everything but it wouldn't exist without him. It's just like someone asking you "Other than Lemonade and Black is King, what Bey visuals can sit with such and such?" But i don't think anyone should do that in this type of discussion. MJ, Janet and Beyoncé are the full package though. No one is really fucking with them, although, visually, im pretty certain Aaliyah was on her way to being in that particular discussion and tier.

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Quote from: ophliyah on December 22, 2021, 06:02:37 PM
when mike performed, there was an element of BITCH how he do that ???

wmbey's performance are stellar, but i can see another talented gor pulling the same mess off as well
See, i don't see all that and we've yet to see anyone sniff Beyoncé when it comes to that. 

Singing and Dancing, maybe, but Beyoncé is so much more than that as a performer. The way she engages the crowd, her charm, charisma and nonstop energy on stage is second to no one, and that includes MJ IMO.  She doesn't top MJ overall but she's definitely the only one I'd compare him to along with Queen Janet

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Quote from: Lucid Salvatore on December 22, 2021, 09:37:11 PM
These comparisons are so disrespectful and I really wish the Hive would stop it

Let's forgot about the music and performances for a second, and let's talk about the artistry. In addition to being a great singer and dancer, Michael had 100% involvement in his mess. He wrote, composed, and produced damn near all his mess. I love Beyonce, but we all know she pays people to write and produce for her, and right before the album is released, she slaps her name on the songwriting and producing credits  :dead:

Furthermore, Bey's Coachella performance was great, but it was local as hell. When Michael did the moonwalk at Motown 25, people all over the world started to imitate that dance move and that performance helped the Thriller album sell around a million copies per week worldwide at its peak in 1983. There will never be an artist like Michael, and the Bey HIV are gonna have to deal 🤷🏽‍♂️
She's one of the greatest vocal producers of all time though. Definitely influenced by the Jacksons just like Brandy is but they do their own thing with those influences, it's pretty amazing.

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Quote from: Somebody's RIG on December 24, 2021, 12:36:52 AM
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Quote from: RAY7 on December 22, 2021, 09:58:14 AM
Michael definitely had the better music videos so I would say he has the "visuals"
Bey obviously has the vocals, Mike has the dance ability. I think Bey has the best mix of singing/dance ability combined. It's pretty much even as far as performing goes
Other than Remember the Time, Billie and Thriller, what videos that he has that can sit with Beyonces visuals?
we can't just take away 3 of the biggest and greatest music videos of all time to fit an agenda tho. Those are the blueprints like you said. Black is King is everything but it wouldn't exist without him. It's just like someone asking you "Other than Lemonade and Black is King, what Bey visuals can sit with such and such?" But i don't think anyone should do that in this type of discussion. MJ, Janet and Beyoncé are the full package though. No one is really fucking with them, although, visually, im pretty certain Aaliyah was on her way to being in that particular discussion and tier.
Yeah she did it better.
He definitely originated it all. She mastered it. I have yet to see anything as good as Black is King, Lemonade or the self titled from an artist in totality (visually). It's not too soon to give her her credit or flowers.
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Like you're gonna be unbiased

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Outside her hits from DC and a few scattered mediocre hits here and there, Beyoncé discography is rather forgettable. She has always compensated with her other talents; mainly that she is black, and a good performer.

A comparison to MJ, and his magnitude of success worldwide and impact on pop culture in general  is entirely laughable.

Beyoncé doesn't come even close.

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and I've always said this. As a an artist Beyoncé has been entirely over-fetishized by the white mainstream culture; mainly bc she is black and beautiful and accessible and the mainstream/industry is guiltily, and culpable to all the racism. It makes everyone feel really good when they can celebrate her, gawking and gushing.

Don't get me wrong she has crazy talent, but it's definitely over-rated and entirely hyperbolic.

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Quote from: Micheal Watson on December 24, 2021, 04:59:25 PM
and I've always said this. As a an artist Beyoncé has been entirely over-fetishized by the white mainstream culture; mainly bc she is black and beautiful and accessible and the mainstream/industry is guiltily, and culpable to all the racism. It makes everyone feel really good when they can celebrate her, gawking and gushing.

Don't get me wrong she has crazy talent, but it's definitely over-rated and entirely hyperbolic.
What? This rhetoric is literally what made Michael popular and successful.
He played up his whiteness to be more palatable and reach people.

Beyoncé deserves every bit of praise and respect she has.
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