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[Ulysses]

It's still your baby, but you shouldn't support your baby under certain circumstances. THIS is one of them...

So she's not supposed to go see him in court?

Nope.

There is enough evidence against him. Hence why he is in jail right now and not out on bail.

u just have to be mindful that ur looking at it from a completely different lens than his MOTHER.

is the ability to see things from more than one perspective a rarity?

sffsfsffsf

i think he belongs behind bars too and shouldn't be released ever. but i understand his MOTHER feeling differently.

I mean, I'm not a mother, but if it were my brother I would never ever support him in this instance. I'm not going to stick behind someone in my family just because they are my family. A monster is a monster

now imagine that you did not believe your brother actually did what he was accused of

he tells u he's innocent, and u believe him.
he has not been found guilty of anything yet, or even put thru a trial yet

and how you would handle that.

Because there would be enough evidence AGAINST my brother in order to be kept without bail. Trial or no trial yet. My brother is still human and can still lie to protect my feelings. But what DOESN'T lie is evidence. But I guess if my brother was my source of a lavish lifestyle, that could possibly change things....

[saveme]

Isn't the point being, since he is her son, this is her fault? That's how I feel about school shooters and serial killers.. I blame their parents, at least partially. This old bitch needs a knuckle sandwich, if you ask me..

 

[stillpretty]

It's still your baby, but you shouldn't support your baby under certain circumstances. THIS is one of them...

So she's not supposed to go see him in court?

Nope.

There is enough evidence against him. Hence why he is in jail right now and not out on bail.

u just have to be mindful that ur looking at it from a completely different lens than his MOTHER.

is the ability to see things from more than one perspective a rarity?

sffsfsffsf

i think he belongs behind bars too and shouldn't be released ever. but i understand his MOTHER feeling differently.

I mean, I'm not a mother, but if it were my brother I would never ever support him in this instance. I'm not going to stick behind someone in my family just because they are my family. A monster is a monster

now imagine that you did not believe your brother actually did what he was accused of

he tells u he's innocent, and u believe him.
he has not been found guilty of anything yet, or even put thru a trial yet

and how you would handle that.

Because there would be enough evidence AGAINST my brother in order to be kept without bail. Trial or no trial yet. My brother is still human and can still lie to protect my feelings. But what DOESN'T lie is evidence. But I guess if my brother was my source of a lavish lifestyle, that could possibly change things....

youre assuming Janice has combed through a bunch of evidence which hasn't even been made available to the public yet

Gggvvg

Right now we know there's a lot of accusers and there's a ton of baby oil found in the house.

We can reasonably assume that there's a lot of hard evidence against diddy since the feds are gunning for him - and I'm sure they've taken time to build a strong case before doing so.

But we can't assume Janice has seen a bunch of hardcore evidence that we have yet to see ourselves.

The trial is really when a lot of details are gonna be made available for everyone to sift through .

[Purple Moon]

It's still your baby, but you shouldn't support your baby under certain circumstances. THIS is one of them...

So she's not supposed to go see him in court?

Nope.

There is enough evidence against him. Hence why he is in jail right now and not out on bail.

u just have to be mindful that ur looking at it from a completely different lens than his MOTHER.

is the ability to see things from more than one perspective a rarity?

sffsfsffsf

i think he belongs behind bars too and shouldn't be released ever. but i understand his MOTHER feeling differently.

I mean, I'm not a mother, but if it were my brother I would never ever support him in this instance. I'm not going to stick behind someone in my family just because they are my family. A monster is a monster

now imagine that you did not believe your brother actually did what he was accused of

he tells u he's innocent, and u believe him.
he has not been found guilty of anything yet, or even put thru a trial yet

and how you would handle that.

Because there would be enough evidence AGAINST my brother in order to be kept without bail. Trial or no trial yet. My brother is still human and can still lie to protect my feelings. But what DOESN'T lie is evidence. But I guess if my brother was my source of a lavish lifestyle, that could possibly change things....

youre assuming Janice has combed through a bunch of evidence which hasn't even been made available to the public yet

Gggvvg

Right now we know there's a lot of accusers and there's a ton of baby oil found in the house.

We can reasonably assume that there's a lot of hard evidence against diddy since the feds are gunning for him - and I'm sure they've taken time to build a strong case before doing so.

But we can't assume Janice has seen a bunch of hardcore evidence that we have yet to see ourselves.

The trial is really when a lot of details are gonna be made available for everyone to sift through .

what about the cassie video? Even if so far unrelated to the charges.

[stillpretty]

It's still your baby, but you shouldn't support your baby under certain circumstances. THIS is one of them...

So she's not supposed to go see him in court?

Nope.

There is enough evidence against him. Hence why he is in jail right now and not out on bail.

u just have to be mindful that ur looking at it from a completely different lens than his MOTHER.

is the ability to see things from more than one perspective a rarity?

sffsfsffsf

i think he belongs behind bars too and shouldn't be released ever. but i understand his MOTHER feeling differently.

I mean, I'm not a mother, but if it were my brother I would never ever support him in this instance. I'm not going to stick behind someone in my family just because they are my family. A monster is a monster

now imagine that you did not believe your brother actually did what he was accused of

he tells u he's innocent, and u believe him.
he has not been found guilty of anything yet, or even put thru a trial yet

and how you would handle that.

Because there would be enough evidence AGAINST my brother in order to be kept without bail. Trial or no trial yet. My brother is still human and can still lie to protect my feelings. But what DOESN'T lie is evidence. But I guess if my brother was my source of a lavish lifestyle, that could possibly change things....

youre assuming Janice has combed through a bunch of evidence which hasn't even been made available to the public yet

Gggvvg

Right now we know there's a lot of accusers and there's a ton of baby oil found in the house.

We can reasonably assume that there's a lot of hard evidence against diddy since the feds are gunning for him - and I'm sure they've taken time to build a strong case before doing so.

But we can't assume Janice has seen a bunch of hardcore evidence that we have yet to see ourselves.

The trial is really when a lot of details are gonna be made available for everyone to sift through .

what about the cassie video? Even if so far unrelated to the charges.

the video is disgusting but I can see a MOTHER buying whatever explanation their child gave them

Whether that be diddy saying he was drunk or that Cassie hit him first off camera

Is "mothers want to believe the best about about their children and don't want to believe the worst about their children" a new/foreign/unheard of concept or something?

Hgggvvvvvv

I feel like I'm introducing something left field and edgy.

[Purple Moon]

It's still your baby, but you shouldn't support your baby under certain circumstances. THIS is one of them...

So she's not supposed to go see him in court?

Nope.

There is enough evidence against him. Hence why he is in jail right now and not out on bail.

u just have to be mindful that ur looking at it from a completely different lens than his MOTHER.

is the ability to see things from more than one perspective a rarity?

sffsfsffsf

i think he belongs behind bars too and shouldn't be released ever. but i understand his MOTHER feeling differently.

I mean, I'm not a mother, but if it were my brother I would never ever support him in this instance. I'm not going to stick behind someone in my family just because they are my family. A monster is a monster

now imagine that you did not believe your brother actually did what he was accused of

he tells u he's innocent, and u believe him.
he has not been found guilty of anything yet, or even put thru a trial yet

and how you would handle that.

Because there would be enough evidence AGAINST my brother in order to be kept without bail. Trial or no trial yet. My brother is still human and can still lie to protect my feelings. But what DOESN'T lie is evidence. But I guess if my brother was my source of a lavish lifestyle, that could possibly change things....

youre assuming Janice has combed through a bunch of evidence which hasn't even been made available to the public yet

Gggvvg

Right now we know there's a lot of accusers and there's a ton of baby oil found in the house.

We can reasonably assume that there's a lot of hard evidence against diddy since the feds are gunning for him - and I'm sure they've taken time to build a strong case before doing so.

But we can't assume Janice has seen a bunch of hardcore evidence that we have yet to see ourselves.

The trial is really when a lot of details are gonna be made available for everyone to sift through .

what about the cassie video? Even if so far unrelated to the charges.

the video is disgusting but I can see a MOTHER buying whatever explanation their child gave them

Whether that be diddy saying he was drunk or that Cassie hit him first off camera

Is "mothers want to believe the best about about their children and don't want to believe the worst about their children" a new/foreign/unheard of concept or something?

Hgggvvvvvv

I feel like I'm introducing something left field and edgy.

can we agree that this is wrong? Im sorry, but too many mothers turn a blind eye to their sons domestic or sexual abuse that they do and that is part of the problem.

[stillpretty]

It's still your baby, but you shouldn't support your baby under certain circumstances. THIS is one of them...

So she's not supposed to go see him in court?

Nope.

There is enough evidence against him. Hence why he is in jail right now and not out on bail.

u just have to be mindful that ur looking at it from a completely different lens than his MOTHER.

is the ability to see things from more than one perspective a rarity?

sffsfsffsf

i think he belongs behind bars too and shouldn't be released ever. but i understand his MOTHER feeling differently.

I mean, I'm not a mother, but if it were my brother I would never ever support him in this instance. I'm not going to stick behind someone in my family just because they are my family. A monster is a monster

now imagine that you did not believe your brother actually did what he was accused of

he tells u he's innocent, and u believe him.
he has not been found guilty of anything yet, or even put thru a trial yet

and how you would handle that.

Because there would be enough evidence AGAINST my brother in order to be kept without bail. Trial or no trial yet. My brother is still human and can still lie to protect my feelings. But what DOESN'T lie is evidence. But I guess if my brother was my source of a lavish lifestyle, that could possibly change things....

youre assuming Janice has combed through a bunch of evidence which hasn't even been made available to the public yet

Gggvvg

Right now we know there's a lot of accusers and there's a ton of baby oil found in the house.

We can reasonably assume that there's a lot of hard evidence against diddy since the feds are gunning for him - and I'm sure they've taken time to build a strong case before doing so.

But we can't assume Janice has seen a bunch of hardcore evidence that we have yet to see ourselves.

The trial is really when a lot of details are gonna be made available for everyone to sift through .

what about the cassie video? Even if so far unrelated to the charges.

the video is disgusting but I can see a MOTHER buying whatever explanation their child gave them

Whether that be diddy saying he was drunk or that Cassie hit him first off camera

Is "mothers want to believe the best about about their children and don't want to believe the worst about their children" a new/foreign/unheard of concept or something?

Hgggvvvvvv

I feel like I'm introducing something left field and edgy.

can we agree that this is wrong? Im sorry, but too many mothers turn a blind eye to their sons domestic or sexual abuse that they do and that is part of the problem.

id never say a mother wanting to believe their child isn't a monster is "wrong"

understandably delusional - yes. but not "wrong".

Janice didnt do anything wrong and shouldnt be pinned to the cross for doing what comes natural to a mother - which is protecting her young.

[Purple Moon]

It's still your baby, but you shouldn't support your baby under certain circumstances. THIS is one of them...

So she's not supposed to go see him in court?

Nope.

There is enough evidence against him. Hence why he is in jail right now and not out on bail.

u just have to be mindful that ur looking at it from a completely different lens than his MOTHER.

is the ability to see things from more than one perspective a rarity?

sffsfsffsf

i think he belongs behind bars too and shouldn't be released ever. but i understand his MOTHER feeling differently.

I mean, I'm not a mother, but if it were my brother I would never ever support him in this instance. I'm not going to stick behind someone in my family just because they are my family. A monster is a monster

now imagine that you did not believe your brother actually did what he was accused of

he tells u he's innocent, and u believe him.
he has not been found guilty of anything yet, or even put thru a trial yet

and how you would handle that.

Because there would be enough evidence AGAINST my brother in order to be kept without bail. Trial or no trial yet. My brother is still human and can still lie to protect my feelings. But what DOESN'T lie is evidence. But I guess if my brother was my source of a lavish lifestyle, that could possibly change things....

youre assuming Janice has combed through a bunch of evidence which hasn't even been made available to the public yet

Gggvvg

Right now we know there's a lot of accusers and there's a ton of baby oil found in the house.

We can reasonably assume that there's a lot of hard evidence against diddy since the feds are gunning for him - and I'm sure they've taken time to build a strong case before doing so.

But we can't assume Janice has seen a bunch of hardcore evidence that we have yet to see ourselves.

The trial is really when a lot of details are gonna be made available for everyone to sift through .

what about the cassie video? Even if so far unrelated to the charges.

the video is disgusting but I can see a MOTHER buying whatever explanation their child gave them

Whether that be diddy saying he was drunk or that Cassie hit him first off camera

Is "mothers want to believe the best about about their children and don't want to believe the worst about their children" a new/foreign/unheard of concept or something?

Hgggvvvvvv

I feel like I'm introducing something left field and edgy.

can we agree that this is wrong? Im sorry, but too many mothers turn a blind eye to their sons domestic or sexual abuse that they do and that is part of the problem.

id never say a mother wanting to believe their child isn't a monster is "wrong"

understandably delusional - yes. but not "wrong".

Janice didnt do anything wrong and shouldnt be pinned to the cross for doing what comes natural to a mother - which is protecting her young.

ok i disagree with you here. mothers need to hold their sons accountable.

[The Brandy Barbie]

they need to leave janice alone

she's up there in age and that's her son

very few mothers will abandon their kids, even when they've done the unthinkable

especially if their child is claiming to be innocent, and making it seem like the world is just randomly targeting them
(as Diddy so shamelessly is 🙄 )

its just her maternal instinct is to protect him

  That mother isn't innocent, either. I think she knows more than she lets on.

[stillpretty]

yall r gonna leave goddess alone

flat owt.

[Buy The Stars✨]

they need to leave janice alone

she's up there in age and that's her son

very few mothers will abandon their kids, even when they've done the unthinkable

especially if their child is claiming to be innocent, and making it seem like the world is just randomly targeting them
(as Diddy so shamelessly is 🙄 )

its just her maternal instinct is to protect him

  That mother isn't innocent, either. I think she knows more than she lets on.

!!!

she should be subpoenaed now that i think about it. Diddy def gives me the type of vibe to confess to his mother,  " she made me DO IT MA! she mad me kill HER!"

what kinda norman bate

[Ulysses]

It's still your baby, but you shouldn't support your baby under certain circumstances. THIS is one of them...

So she's not supposed to go see him in court?

Nope.

There is enough evidence against him. Hence why he is in jail right now and not out on bail.

u just have to be mindful that ur looking at it from a completely different lens than his MOTHER.

is the ability to see things from more than one perspective a rarity?

sffsfsffsf

i think he belongs behind bars too and shouldn't be released ever. but i understand his MOTHER feeling differently.

I mean, I'm not a mother, but if it were my brother I would never ever support him in this instance. I'm not going to stick behind someone in my family just because they are my family. A monster is a monster

now imagine that you did not believe your brother actually did what he was accused of

he tells u he's innocent, and u believe him.
he has not been found guilty of anything yet, or even put thru a trial yet

and how you would handle that.

Because there would be enough evidence AGAINST my brother in order to be kept without bail. Trial or no trial yet. My brother is still human and can still lie to protect my feelings. But what DOESN'T lie is evidence. But I guess if my brother was my source of a lavish lifestyle, that could possibly change things....

youre assuming Janice has combed through a bunch of evidence which hasn't even been made available to the public yet

Gggvvg

Right now we know there's a lot of accusers and there's a ton of baby oil found in the house.

We can reasonably assume that there's a lot of hard evidence against diddy since the feds are gunning for him - and I'm sure they've taken time to build a strong case before doing so.

But we can't assume Janice has seen a bunch of hardcore evidence that we have yet to see ourselves.

The trial is really when a lot of details are gonna be made available for everyone to sift through .

So would it be okay for her to not support her son when he is found guilty in court? Or will you still support her decision to support him when he is found guilty?

[stillpretty]

It's still your baby, but you shouldn't support your baby under certain circumstances. THIS is one of them...

So she's not supposed to go see him in court?

Nope.

There is enough evidence against him. Hence why he is in jail right now and not out on bail.

u just have to be mindful that ur looking at it from a completely different lens than his MOTHER.

is the ability to see things from more than one perspective a rarity?

sffsfsffsf

i think he belongs behind bars too and shouldn't be released ever. but i understand his MOTHER feeling differently.

I mean, I'm not a mother, but if it were my brother I would never ever support him in this instance. I'm not going to stick behind someone in my family just because they are my family. A monster is a monster

now imagine that you did not believe your brother actually did what he was accused of

he tells u he's innocent, and u believe him.
he has not been found guilty of anything yet, or even put thru a trial yet

and how you would handle that.

Because there would be enough evidence AGAINST my brother in order to be kept without bail. Trial or no trial yet. My brother is still human and can still lie to protect my feelings. But what DOESN'T lie is evidence. But I guess if my brother was my source of a lavish lifestyle, that could possibly change things....

youre assuming Janice has combed through a bunch of evidence which hasn't even been made available to the public yet

Gggvvg

Right now we know there's a lot of accusers and there's a ton of baby oil found in the house.

We can reasonably assume that there's a lot of hard evidence against diddy since the feds are gunning for him - and I'm sure they've taken time to build a strong case before doing so.

But we can't assume Janice has seen a bunch of hardcore evidence that we have yet to see ourselves.

The trial is really when a lot of details are gonna be made available for everyone to sift through .

So would it be okay for her to not support her son when he is found guilty in court? Or will you still support her decision to support him when he is found guilty?

honestly when it comes to family members, there's no telling how deluded they can understandably become.

even if he's convicted, the next step of delusion/denial would be "they got it wrong! hes innocent"

there are people who are not even related to men like R. Kelly and Diddy....have never met them once in their life or had a conversation with them... but are so passionate about them as fans that they feel they are innocent and feel these things are just part of a plot to "take them down".

we know how delusional some STANS can be. they allow their love for an artist to blind them to what everyone else can clearly see.
they defend them relentlessly and appear to REALLY believe in their innocence, even after a conviction. they're genuinely delusional.

that goes quadruple when ur talking about actual family members.

and i'd say for family members it's understandable.

[Ulysses]

It's still your baby, but you shouldn't support your baby under certain circumstances. THIS is one of them...

So she's not supposed to go see him in court?

Nope.

There is enough evidence against him. Hence why he is in jail right now and not out on bail.

u just have to be mindful that ur looking at it from a completely different lens than his MOTHER.

is the ability to see things from more than one perspective a rarity?

sffsfsffsf

i think he belongs behind bars too and shouldn't be released ever. but i understand his MOTHER feeling differently.

I mean, I'm not a mother, but if it were my brother I would never ever support him in this instance. I'm not going to stick behind someone in my family just because they are my family. A monster is a monster

now imagine that you did not believe your brother actually did what he was accused of

he tells u he's innocent, and u believe him.
he has not been found guilty of anything yet, or even put thru a trial yet

and how you would handle that.

Because there would be enough evidence AGAINST my brother in order to be kept without bail. Trial or no trial yet. My brother is still human and can still lie to protect my feelings. But what DOESN'T lie is evidence. But I guess if my brother was my source of a lavish lifestyle, that could possibly change things....

youre assuming Janice has combed through a bunch of evidence which hasn't even been made available to the public yet

Gggvvg

Right now we know there's a lot of accusers and there's a ton of baby oil found in the house.

We can reasonably assume that there's a lot of hard evidence against diddy since the feds are gunning for him - and I'm sure they've taken time to build a strong case before doing so.

But we can't assume Janice has seen a bunch of hardcore evidence that we have yet to see ourselves.

The trial is really when a lot of details are gonna be made available for everyone to sift through .

So would it be okay for her to not support her son when he is found guilty in court? Or will you still support her decision to support him when he is found guilty?

honestly when it comes to family members, there's no telling how deluded they can understandably become.

even if he's convicted, the next step of delusion/denial would be "they got it wrong! hes innocent"

there are people who are not even related to men like R. Kelly and Diddy....have never met them once in their life or had a conversation with them... but are so passionate about them as fans that they feel they are innocent and feel these things are just part of a plot to "take them down".

we know how delusional some STANS can be. they allow their love for an artist to blind them to what everyone else can clearly see.
they defend them relentlessly and appear to REALLY believe in their innocence, even after a conviction. they're genuinely delusional.

that goes quadruple when ur talking about actual family members.

and i'd say for family members it's understandable.

Exactly back to my point. Thank you for bringing us back.

Family member or not, you should not support the guilty...

[stillpretty]

It's still your baby, but you shouldn't support your baby under certain circumstances. THIS is one of them...

So she's not supposed to go see him in court?

Nope.

There is enough evidence against him. Hence why he is in jail right now and not out on bail.

u just have to be mindful that ur looking at it from a completely different lens than his MOTHER.

is the ability to see things from more than one perspective a rarity?

sffsfsffsf

i think he belongs behind bars too and shouldn't be released ever. but i understand his MOTHER feeling differently.

I mean, I'm not a mother, but if it were my brother I would never ever support him in this instance. I'm not going to stick behind someone in my family just because they are my family. A monster is a monster

now imagine that you did not believe your brother actually did what he was accused of

he tells u he's innocent, and u believe him.
he has not been found guilty of anything yet, or even put thru a trial yet

and how you would handle that.

Because there would be enough evidence AGAINST my brother in order to be kept without bail. Trial or no trial yet. My brother is still human and can still lie to protect my feelings. But what DOESN'T lie is evidence. But I guess if my brother was my source of a lavish lifestyle, that could possibly change things....

youre assuming Janice has combed through a bunch of evidence which hasn't even been made available to the public yet

Gggvvg

Right now we know there's a lot of accusers and there's a ton of baby oil found in the house.

We can reasonably assume that there's a lot of hard evidence against diddy since the feds are gunning for him - and I'm sure they've taken time to build a strong case before doing so.

But we can't assume Janice has seen a bunch of hardcore evidence that we have yet to see ourselves.

The trial is really when a lot of details are gonna be made available for everyone to sift through .

So would it be okay for her to not support her son when he is found guilty in court? Or will you still support her decision to support him when he is found guilty?

honestly when it comes to family members, there's no telling how deluded they can understandably become.

even if he's convicted, the next step of delusion/denial would be "they got it wrong! hes innocent"

there are people who are not even related to men like R. Kelly and Diddy....have never met them once in their life or had a conversation with them... but are so passionate about them as fans that they feel they are innocent and feel these things are just part of a plot to "take them down".

we know how delusional some STANS can be. they allow their love for an artist to blind them to what everyone else can clearly see.
they defend them relentlessly and appear to REALLY believe in their innocence, even after a conviction. they're genuinely delusional.

that goes quadruple when ur talking about actual family members.

and i'd say for family members it's understandable.

Exactly back to my point. Thank you for bringing us back.

Family member or not, you should not support the guilty...

but if someone is delusional about someone's innocence, they don't KNOW they're supporting the guilty.

in their eyes, they are supporting the innocent.
they are doing what's right.

whats not clicking about this?