and this is why i cant stand cynthia WEIRDrivo

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stillpretty

October 22, 2024, 05:42:59 PM #30 Last Edit: October 22, 2024, 05:44:02 PM by goodies
she articulated it very well.

it's not to say the person definitely had intention to erase/shade Cynthia with that fanmade art..

it's just understanding why Cynthia feels that way. why she may be sensitive to it.

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oph.

Quote from: goodies on October 22, 2024, 04:50:42 PM
Quote from: i'm oph, he's mine on October 22, 2024, 04:42:39 PMyea babe, thats why you should do a lil research before typing these novels.


and you should have as well before making this thread and adding 1000 links to white grizzlies dragging her on twitter

when her apparent hypersensitivity is actually very justified according to my "lil research"

im the one who educated YOU vccvvvcvv

and most of those tweets are from black folks. so yeah, she sounds stupid and ur pissed about it babe

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stillpretty

October 23, 2024, 03:34:58 AM #33 Last Edit: October 23, 2024, 03:56:04 AM by goodies
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Quote from: goodies on October 22, 2024, 04:50:42 PM
Quote from: i'm oph, he's mine on October 22, 2024, 04:42:39 PMyea babe, thats why you should do a lil research before typing these novels.


and you should have as well before making this thread and adding 1000 links to white grizzlies dragging her on twitter

when her apparent hypersensitivity is actually very justified according to my "lil research"

im the one who educated YOU vccvvvcvv

and most of those tweets are from black folks. so yeah, she sounds stupid and ur pissed about it babe

 :letsmessfag:
we can just agree to disagree

If we couldn't get on the same page about something like OG being called a monkey I highly doubt we'd end up seeing eye to eye on this issue

So I'll end our discussion here.
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L0NZ.

I'm with Fro on this one.

If not for anything than my initial, IMMEDIATE internal response upon seeing the trailer after the credits for "The Wild Robot" rolled in the theatre.

I thought just that. "Not the only Black person I see being the wicked witch."  :dead:



oph.

even fro walked that point back bby. he's sticking with the fan edit outrange angle now.

again, having an understanding of the actual story beyond merely the character's name is pivotal here.

stillpretty

October 23, 2024, 08:25:14 PM #38 Last Edit: October 23, 2024, 08:29:02 PM by goodies
Quote from: Aalonso. on October 23, 2024, 04:38:37 PMI'm with Fro on this one.

If not for anything than my initial, IMMEDIATE internal response upon seeing the trailer after the credits for "The Wild Robot" rolled in the theatre.

I thought just that. "Not the only Black person I see being the wicked witch."  :dead:


yeah

I did say it's SOMEWHAT/KINDA different after considering the context of how the witch is portrayed in the "wicked" play specifically

But the lineup is still questionable.
If nothing else , optically at first glance .

Just because I was willing to consider and research helpful context that was introduced (as I should) doesn't mean I've 100% abandoned my thoughts on casting.


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Amazing

She is a theatre gal and has been talking about this role being her dream role for over 10 years now.

Amazing

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Quote from: goodies on October 22, 2024, 10:34:11 AMmy problem is the fact that they picked a Black woman to be the wicked witch amongst a bunch of non-Black actors

I mean she auditioned for the role
and she's not some struggling actress who needed it.
im not her banker so i cant speak to what she needs and doesn't need

but the casting is horrible. that i can speak to
Im not talking about the money either. She's a seasoned enough actress not to mention Oscar and other award winning that she can choose which roles she takes.
This casting probably was going to a white woman like in the original movie until she decided she wanted it
if u really wanna go that route, having an oscar doesnt mean u can be extra picky cuz there's so many people banging down ur door

that's been proven several times over - especially for black actors

if anything, the "oscar curse" becomes a real concern. where the OPPOSITE of what you'd expect to happen after winning happens

so i cant even speak to how selective she is able to be. and even if she can be super picky the casting director still isn't off the hook

sometimes looking from the outside in is the best view of how things are being set up.

just as someone whos in a bad relationship may need a friend to say "gorl, he doin u dirty." doesn't mean the person loves being done dirty, or asked for it. just means they're looking at things through a different lens.
that's why I said a seasoned actress AND Oscar winning. Meaning outside of the award she has a long resume with hit movies to her name. It's not like she just won an Oscar and disappeared

and you may want to look up Cynthia's comments about American Black ppl being that she's from the UK. She's gotten quite some backlash for comments she's made. So even if someone told her it doesn't look good for a Black woman im not sure she would listen or agree
which is actually why i'm lashing the casting directors
because they were supposed to tell an award winning actress NO to this role. Because shes Black
 :omf:
because i find it odd that the only main Black actress in the cast happens to be the wicked witch.

how does this NOT make sense to you?

maybe a visual will help.



well it is called WICKED sir. She's the title character. They could have casted more black characters but if there had to be just one, definitely give them the top billing
u know wat ur right

so if someone writes up a movie called EVIL and casts a Black person to play the evil aggressor

and everyone else to be White Asian or Hispanic

it's OK because the evil aggressor is a focal point of the movie! :cheerup:

i see ur logic
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Quote from: goodies on October 22, 2024, 10:34:11 AMmy problem is the fact that they picked a Black woman to be the wicked witch amongst a bunch of non-Black actors

I mean she auditioned for the role
and she's not some struggling actress who needed it.
im not her banker so i cant speak to what she needs and doesn't need

but the casting is horrible. that i can speak to
Im not talking about the money either. She's a seasoned enough actress not to mention Oscar and other award winning that she can choose which roles she takes.
This casting probably was going to a white woman like in the original movie until she decided she wanted it
if u really wanna go that route, having an oscar doesnt mean u can be extra picky cuz there's so many people banging down ur door

that's been proven several times over - especially for black actors

if anything, the "oscar curse" becomes a real concern. where the OPPOSITE of what you'd expect to happen after winning happens

so i cant even speak to how selective she is able to be. and even if she can be super picky the casting director still isn't off the hook

sometimes looking from the outside in is the best view of how things are being set up.

just as someone whos in a bad relationship may need a friend to say "gorl, he doin u dirty." doesn't mean the person loves being done dirty, or asked for it. just means they're looking at things through a different lens.
that's why I said a seasoned actress AND Oscar winning. Meaning outside of the award she has a long resume with hit movies to her name. It's not like she just won an Oscar and disappeared

and you may want to look up Cynthia's comments about American Black ppl being that she's from the UK. She's gotten quite some backlash for comments she's made. So even if someone told her it doesn't look good for a Black woman im not sure she would listen or agree
which is actually why i'm lashing the casting directors
because they were supposed to tell an award winning actress NO to this role. Because shes Black
 :omf:
because i find it odd that the only main Black actress in the cast happens to be the wicked witch.

how does this NOT make sense to you?

maybe a visual will help.



well it is called WICKED sir. She's the title character. They could have casted more black characters but if there had to be just one, definitely give them the top billing
u know wat ur right

so if someone writes up a movie called EVIL and casts a Black person to play the evil aggressor

and everyone else to be White Asian or Hispanic

it's OK because the evil aggressor is a focal point of the movie! :cheerup:

i see ur logic

This is the best role in the movie. She has wanted this role for over a decade.

oph.


cccxxcvcdfcvcxcgcxxcvcccv the way king broke it down point by damn POINT

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