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[Ｂｏｏｍｚ]

honestly artists like GHan and Kim Burrell already prove that how a singer uses their voice on material can significantly contribute to the perceived level of "artistry" they have.

Boomz wasn't introducing some new, edgy concept

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Bhhhhh

Oh gorl

Are you really gonna say that these other gorls aren't saying that?

Maybe YOU weren't! But the thread isn't "what does Afro think?"

They are def saying Whit's ability to sing and perform was less than everyone else's contributions because she didn't genre jump, do an 8 count, or have 9 different eras with different themes and costumes and wigs

And you're right, that would sound crazy coming from Brandy stans. Which is why my eyes were crossed while reading the whole thread.

Being able to use your GOD given voice to inspire millions is an ART! Cause everyone can't do it! And I'm not coming off it

Whitney AND Brandy inspired generations of singers that followed. That means something

[Ｂｏｏｍｚ]

I'm not even a big nippy fan but she was an artist. Let's not play in here lol

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Like wtf is happening?!

[oph.]

well i was clearly speaking to a reasonably assumed context, and have been speaking to that this entire time.

challenge: ask most people you know what they consider "great artistry" to be

and tell me how many people tell you all they consider for that is how great someone's voice is.

that's all. i'll gladly eat egg if my assumptions are wrong or unreasonable.

hun, are you reading my posts or just typing? bvvvv

again, i NEVER. ARGUED. what most people assume artistry entails. which is why, again, i stated that i feel like people don't accurately recognized the artistry in the voice-- which actually ALIGNS with your argument. take a breath bby

[stillpretty]

well i was clearly speaking to a reasonably assumed context, and have been speaking to that this entire time.

challenge: ask most people you know what they consider "great artistry" to be

and tell me how many people tell you all they consider for that is how great someone's voice is.

that's all. i'll gladly eat egg if my assumptions are wrong or unreasonable.

again, i NEVER. ARGUED. what most people assume artistry entails.

then why are we even here

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if you agree that there's a pretty consistent idea of what "artistry" entails to most people?

let me take u back to what started our exchange:

that's you just making an assumption tho bby. all it said was category: artistry go. there were no specifications made.

do specifications NEED to be made if everyone kinda knows what's implied when someone says "category is artistry"?

[stillpretty]

honestly artists like GHan and Kim Burrell already prove that how a singer uses their voice on material can significantly contribute to the perceived level of "artistry" they have.

Boomz wasn't introducing some new, edgy concept

cssjnsjnscnscjnscjnscjjc

Bhhhhh

Oh gorl

Are you really gonna say that these other gorls aren't saying that?

Maybe YOU weren't! But the thread isn't "what does Afro think?"

They are def saying Whit's ability to sing and perform was less than everyone else's contributions because she didn't genre jump, do an 8 count, or have 9 different eras with different themes and costumes and wigs

And you're right, that would sound crazy coming from Brandy stans. Which is why my eyes were crossed while reading the whole thread.

Being able to use your GOD given voice to inspire millions is an ART! Cause everyone can't do it! And I'm not coming off it

Whitney AND Brandy inspired generations of singers that followed. That means something

you're kinda inherently reducing GODnet's artistry to "two steps, costumes and wigs" when she went a LOT deeper than that.

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whether intentionally or not, that in itself flaws ur argument here.

even putting subjectivity completely aside, people cant say GODnet didnt explore/tackle themes that went way beyond a "boy i luh u, now watch me shake my boovy" tea.

[Nine]

Correct me if I'm wrong but Whitney wasn't sitting down producing her vocals, crafting and stacking her backgrounds like Brandy does. I know Brandy had help but she was still at the forefront of her vocal producing, at least for most of her albums.

The perception of Whitney was that she goes to the studio, records the song in 30 minutes before heading to the mall before it closes.

[oph.]

well i was clearly speaking to a reasonably assumed context, and have been speaking to that this entire time.

challenge: ask most people you know what they consider "great artistry" to be

and tell me how many people tell you all they consider for that is how great someone's voice is.

that's all. i'll gladly eat egg if my assumptions are wrong or unreasonable.

again, i NEVER. ARGUED. what most people assume artistry entails.

then why are we even here

sdnsdnsds

if you agree that there's a pretty consistent idea of what "artistry" entails to most people?

let me take u back to what started our exchange:

that's you just making an assumption tho bby. all it said was category: artistry go. there were no specifications made.

 

jesus. you really do just wanna argue bvccccccc

i made that statement in response to this:

but i think the context of this thread was pointing more towards material. songs.

pointing out that the facebook prompt (which was the basis of this thread, therefore setting the context) never specific what artistry they were referring to, therefore what you said was an assumption-- which you agreed.

so yeah, why ARE we here? 

[stillpretty]

well i was clearly speaking to a reasonably assumed context, and have been speaking to that this entire time.

challenge: ask most people you know what they consider "great artistry" to be

and tell me how many people tell you all they consider for that is how great someone's voice is.

that's all. i'll gladly eat egg if my assumptions are wrong or unreasonable.

again, i NEVER. ARGUED. what most people assume artistry entails.

then why are we even here

sdnsdnsds

if you agree that there's a pretty consistent idea of what "artistry" entails to most people?

let me take u back to what started our exchange:

that's you just making an assumption tho bby. all it said was category: artistry go. there were no specifications made.

 

jesus. you really do just wanna argue bvccccccc

i made that statement in response to this:

but i think the context of this thread was pointing more towards material. songs.

and we have people in here saying Whitney has the best voice but isn't the greatest artist
which speaks to...guess what: overall material.

so yes again, why are we here

"material" and "songs" speaks to a combination of vocals, themes/concepts, and overall musicality.
it's more general than "voice".

whats not clicking

[stillpretty]

as in: if you ask most people (especially those are who are really into music) what a "great artist" is

they'd be more likely to say "someone with great material/songs" - which in itself encompasses/covers MULTIPLE factors.

like, am i in the fucking twilight zone?

when did this any of this become groundbreaking news or a left field POV?

[Justaway_]

wow i guess fro is right.. in this particular case

 

[L0NZ.]

Just want to say that Janet's musicality and ability to emote and make people FEEL, WITHOUT a "big" voice is a huge serve djdjdjdjdj

[stillpretty]

wow i guess fro is right.. in any/all cases

 

[RAY7]

Correct me if I'm wrong but Whitney wasn't sitting down producing her vocals, crafting and stacking her backgrounds like Brandy does. I know Brandy had help but she was still at the forefront of her vocal producing, at least for most of her albums.

The perception of Whitney was that she goes to the studio, records the song in 30 minutes before heading to the mall before it closes.

This songwriter said she did stack her vocals sometimes like on her 2nd album
I do know that she often had backing vocalists on her songs like her mom, Chante Moore, Shanice etc but she was involved in the crafting of her music
Just not the lyrics

[Justaway_]

that's cute.

Now let's compare to what the other 3 have done with their craft.

[RAY7]

2 of them can't sing and the other can't sing anymore
That's what they've done with their craft