Not all Africans were slaves. Sorry to disappoint ya!

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AIDS!

Quote from: MAKEDA on April 16, 2016, 03:19:27 PM
Quote from: GOLD on April 16, 2016, 03:17:54 PM
Quote from: MAKEDA on April 16, 2016, 03:15:09 PM
Quote from: GOLD on April 16, 2016, 03:09:57 PM
Wow according to this persons study, out of 350 results, only 4 people came back with 100% African DNA

Link?

wtf

QuoteDespite previous findings there are in fact also African Americans who don?t show any non-African admixture at all in DNA testing. Even though they can still be described as mixed regionally within-Africa. I managed to collect no less than 4 African American results showing 100% African ancestry, which is about 1% of my total sample group (4/350)(edit: i added a fifth one while writing this blogpost). I verified that these were indeed multigenerational African Americans and not persons with recent ancestry from either the West Indies or Africa itself. Most of the people with the lowest amounts of total African are from Louisiana, but some of these results were also from other states.

https://tracingafricanroots.wordpress.com/ancestrydna/african-american-results/

Oh. I thought you were referring to Africans. I was about to say  :plzstop:
hhdjdjdjdjsjsjsisis I just know your heart stopped  :plzstop:

Glenda

Quote from: GOLD on April 16, 2016, 03:21:29 PM
Quote from: Herbie on April 16, 2016, 03:16:38 PM
Quote from: GOLD on April 16, 2016, 03:09:57 PM
Wow according to this persons study, out of 350 results, only 4 people came back with 100% African DNA
!!!!

Any AA taking this test should be perched on his blog.

It really helps you understand a lot of the results and how it relates to what states your ancestors from.The test is stunningly accurate when it comes to pinpointing your origins though. Because certain slaves were sent to certain areas. The DNA reflects it.

For many AA's who take the test though, their African DNA is sporadically and evenly distributed amongst the total percentage . Like 20% GHAna 21% Cameroon Congo, etc. My GHana came in at a whopping 34%.  :ohwow:  :ohwow: and then it smoothly transitioned south of GHana to the central region of Cameroon/Congo, then further south to SE Bantu. I'm actually one of the luckier test takes who have a less random distribution of their African DNA. So I'm at least thankful for that.

But I still think more could be done. For instance separating GHana/Ivory Coast. They clump those two regions together. I really wanted to know whether it was more GHana or Ivory Coast. It probably doesn't matter because I guess they're so genetically similar that a clump was logical, but still.  :uhh: sss
Ghana andIvory Coast used to be the same terrortorieseekk before the Europeans came and divided it up
Most AA's who tests come back with Ghana/Ivory Coast belong to the Akan tribe since it's the dominating ethnic tribe in both countries and a tro the Europeans took a lot of slaves from this a lot of AA's and blacks in the diaspora DNA holding that one particular ethnic tribe

:stressed:

AIDS!

QuoteA large number of Akans were taken as captives to the Americas, and many people of African descent in the Americas have partial Akan ancestry. During the 18th and 19th centuries, Akan slaves were all referred to as "Coromantees". Due to their organization, common language, and fierce nature, Coromantees were responsible for the majority of slave revolts in the Caribbean and North America.

Herb.

April 16, 2016, 03:29:00 PM #243 Last Edit: April 16, 2016, 03:30:03 PM by Herbie
I hunted Fonte (the creator of that blog) down and had him to analyze my African DNA in January. :justabit:
He gave me props for my impressive GHana score :stressed:
And he had already guessed a good portion of my DNA was from Angolans. And mentioned that people with roots in the West INdies tend to score these types of results in regard to the strong Central African presence.

The tests are real. And scarily accurate.

I really didn't know how to CONNECT much of what he was saying until now. Honestly when I first read it I was like huh  :uhh: sdssdsd but now looking with a more educated eye, it makes sense. This is why I never gave up on my research. And THIS is why I am so excited. I've been hard at work trying to understand everything.

Here's my review.

QuoteHi Herbert, these are my thoughts on your results, remember it's just my 2 cents wink.  Your Ivory Coast/Ghana proportion is impressive and nearly one half of your African breakdown (36/81=44%). It's twice as high as the average i found for 350 AA's (19,5%) and actually only 13 other AA results i've seen scored higher for this region (proportionally speaking). So this is definitely a region worthy of exploring further to get a better grip on your African background. It's good to keep in mind that besides origins from firstmost Ghana and then Ivory Coast this category could also be suggestive of origins from Liberia and even (southern) Sierra Leone. Judging from the results of actual persons from those countries. (see also African results).

Your Cameroon/Congo score (18%) is also significant but much more in line with what seems to be common among AA's and especially from the Carolina's and Georgia. This region is ambigious as it might point towards origins from both the Bight of Biafra and Central Africa. Given that you also score a fair amount of Southeastern Bantu while your Nigerian contribution is rather small it's tempting to assume your Cameroon/Congo combines with SE Bantu and generally might point towards Central African origins in your case. However other options might still also be valid!

Looking more closely at your SE Bantu score (13%), it's clearly above the average i have found for 350 AA's. It makes up 16% (13/81) of your total African breakdown, while the average would be about 6,5%. It's good to keep in mind though that averages hide a great deal of variation around the mean. I have seen about 35 other AA's score higher SE Bantu proportions than yourself, while about 133 AA's had higher SE Bantu proportions than the average of 6,5%. This region has very wideranging potential implications across southern and eastern parts of Africa. We will have to wait for an update of Ancestry's referencepanel, involving heavier sampling from Angola and Mozambique, to get a clearer picture.

I find this category nonetheless very intriguing, my personal take on any possible interpretation is to go by whatever's been documented on the African origins for whichever nationality the person who's taking the test belongs to. In the case of AA's i therefore believe that a Central African (northern Angola & interior of Congo) explanation seems to be most plausible in a majority of cases (of course there's always individual variation). Because judging from the slave trade records this region supplied about 25% of all captives to the US while the share of Mozambique/Madagascar was no more than 2%. While it's true that the Portuguese were heavily present in this area, starting from the late 1600's they were mostly confined to Angola in the area around the capital Luanda and places to the south of it (Benguela). The captives they brought over to the Americas were destined almost exclusively towards Brazil in the 1700's/1800's while during earlier centuries (1500's/1600's) also other parts of Latin America received many of these captives. Because of incidental pirate attacks on Portuguese slave ships a small number of Angolans also ended up in the US in the late 1600's. Around the river Congo, near northern Angola, it was actually the Dutch, French, English and later on even American based slave traders who were predominant. This place centered around the kingdom of Loango had many interior connections, perhaps reaching as far as Zambia even. So i imagine any Southeastern Bantu scores among AA's and also West Indians (they also can score noticeable SE Bantu scores upto around 20%, even when it's more exceptional), might still be originating from this disembarkation region.

Glenda

Quote from: GOLD on April 16, 2016, 03:27:57 PM
QuoteA large number of Akans were taken as captives to the Americas, and many people of African descent in the Americas have partial Akan ancestry. During the 18th and 19th centuries, Akan slaves were all referred to as "Coromantees". Due to their organization, common language, and fierce nature, Coromantees were responsible for the majority of slave revolts in the Caribbean and North America.

:wellheythere:

tigernathan


MAY

I'm descended from African peoples too (the White ones) :young:

Glenda


Glenda


AIDS!

In my mothers village in Brong Ahafo there's actually a tomb yard where there's 700-800 years worth of buried dead :dead:
My mother is one of the very first of modern people to actually leave for Europe
My father (Ivory Coast) has connections to the Hausa/Fulani tribe and their admixture is more complicated since they are nomadic which means they've travelled from East, to North down Central and West and settled everywhere in between
QuoteThe kingdom of Bonoman (or Brong-Ahafo) was established as early as the 12th century, and between the 12th and 13th centuries a gold boom in the Akan area brought wealth to numerous Akans.

During different phases of the Kingdom of Bonoman groups of Akans migrated out of the area to create numerous states based predominantly on gold mining and trading of cash crops.

This brought wealth to numerous Akan states like Akwamu Empire, (1550-1650) and ultimately led to the rise of the most well known Akan empire, the Empire of Ashanti, (1700-1900), the most dominant of the Akan states.


This is why I :uhh: the blacks who ignore al the WEALTH of African history and glorify that less than 20% Euro or w/e slave DNA (and please this isn't directed to anyone)
Our own culture and kingdoms were so...,.rich!


SouravMay

The London airport is Nigerian owned lolz...

Nigerian music rules Africa. Nigerian film industry is the second largest on the globe. We are the country with the 2nd biggest ethno-linguistic diversity in the world. Oh and Nigerian women are by far the most successful soccer players of the continent.
B7

tigernathan

Quote from: GOLD on April 16, 2016, 03:32:30 PM
In my mothers village in Brong Ahafo there's actually a tomb yard where there's 700-800 years worth of buried dead :dead:
My mother is one of the very first people to actually leave for Europe
QuoteThe kingdom of Bonoman (or Brong-Ahafo) was established as early as the 12th century, and between the 12th and 13th centuries a gold boom in the Akan area brought wealth to numerous Akans.

During different phases of the Kingdom of Bonoman groups of Akans migrated out of the area to create numerous states based predominantly on gold mining and trading of cash crops.

This brought wealth to numerous Akan states like Akwamu Empire, (1550-1650) and ultimately led to the rise of the most well known Akan empire, the Empire of Ashanti, (1700-1900), the most dominant of the Akan states.


This is why I :uhh: the blacks who ignore al the WEALTH of African history and glorify that less than 20% Euro or w/e slave DNA (and please this isn't directed to anyone)
Our own culture and kingdoms were so...,.rich!

Now this is power :stressed:

Cartierline

Ugh can we not with the country v country mess..

:udontlookok:

AIDS!

Quote from: Rajesha on April 16, 2016, 03:33:22 PM
The London airport is Nigerian owned lolz...

Nigerian music rules Africa. Nigerian film industry is the second largest on the globe. We are the country with the 2nd biggest ethno-linguistic diversity in the world. Oh and Nigerian women are by far the most successful soccer players of the continent.
They live in bleach and don't remember where they put their children