Do you think that Usher is an icon?

Started by GLOCK, October 10, 2016, 02:34:23 PM

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RAY7

Quote from: COCO on October 10, 2016, 07:18:33 PM
Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 07:15:33 PM
Quote from: COCO on October 10, 2016, 07:12:26 PM
defef who wasn't singing about sex in the 90's
:uhh:
Brandy
Monica
Tevin Campbell
NSynce, BSB, Britney
Immature, you know the YOUNG artist
please everyone had some "mature" content :dead:
mature & flat out singing about having sex are different
Usher's debut was a complete 180 lyrically from Bran's

MAY

Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 07:21:07 PM
Quote from: BLOND?. on October 10, 2016, 07:16:24 PM
But is he iconic in the way Britney or Beyonce are?

No.  And that's simply because outside of the music, there isn't really anything interesting about Usher.  No iconic outfits, no real iconic routines (even though he is a phonemonal dancer) like "Remember The Time", "Thriller", "Vogue", "Rhythm Nation", "Single Ladies", "I'm A Slave 4 U"......  No snake, no metal glove or alter ego, no bodysuit with the ass out....

There's no frenzy.  There's no real hype.  He can probably walk down the street without causing too much of a commotion.  And now he's sitting on The Voice alongside Shakira (who's being paid more).  When Mariah did American Idol, she was paid the most.  When Britney did X-Factor, she was paid the most.  And sadly, that just makes him seem desperate and washed up.  Not to mention, he's on Snapchat desperately taking nude pictures.  Didn't he just star in a movie?  If he were truly ICONIC, everything he does would in someway become an extension of his iconography.  He's just regular as hell now.

Usher is an R&B legend.  But he is not ICONIC.
this is BS and probably cuz you're gay
no offense


bbb

Ray WTF?! :uhh: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:

FlowerBomb

Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 07:21:07 PM
Quote from: BLOND?. on October 10, 2016, 07:16:24 PM
But is he iconic in the way Britney or Beyonce are?

No.  And that's simply because outside of the music, there isn't really anything interesting about Usher.  No iconic outfits, no real iconic routines (even though he is a phonemonal dancer) like "Remember The Time", "Thriller", "Vogue", "Rhythm Nation", "Single Ladies", "I'm A Slave 4 U"......  No snake, no metal glove or alter ego, no bodysuit with the ass out....

There's no frenzy.  There's no real hype.  He can probably walk down the street without causing too much of a commotion.  And now he's sitting on The Voice alongside Shakira (who's being paid more).  When Mariah did American Idol, she was paid the most.  When Britney did X-Factor, she was paid the most.  And sadly, that just makes him seem desperate and washed up.  Not to mention, he's on Snapchat desperately taking nude pictures.  Didn't he just star in a movie?  If he were truly ICONIC, everything he does would in someway become an extension of his iconography.  He's just regular as hell now.

Usher is an R&B legend.  But he is not ICONIC.
this is BS and probably cuz you're gay

:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:

RAY7

Quote from: ANIMMAI on October 10, 2016, 07:18:15 PM
Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 07:17:07 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on October 10, 2016, 07:15:21 PM
Where was Usher's mother when he was recording these R Kelly leftovers before he hit puberty? I'm disgusted.
she sent him to stay with Diddy
and he, has always said that wasnt the best place for a kid
the songs didnt sound like Molest at all though
more Jodeci

So she was a neglectful parent who let her child be sexualized for a chance at stardom.

How sad.
well not neglectful, but yea to the second part
and now he's an Icon
are we on topic or...

FINE.

Blonde swooped in with truth tbh

Ray can i take the tampon out ur booty with my teeth?

Vonc2002

Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on October 10, 2016, 07:15:04 PM
I'm sorry, but I don't consider Usher an icon.

Besides that 'Confessions' plaque, I just don't see it.
Yh, that's it and that's all. He had the opportunity to be one but he didn't seize it tbh. Trying to be hot at the moment. When ur a REAL iconic figure, u set the trend. U make us listen to whatever the fuck it is ur doing, not hopping on trends hoping u can still be a part of the crowd
This is my pass to say WHATEVER tf I wanna say about the mess she releases so I don't wanna hear SHIT! Baby mama is a mess of a song btw





FlowerBomb

Usher doesnt have to be cunt for us to recognise him as Iconic
Shit even JLo has more recognisable moments and she's already been awarded an "Icon" award before Usher

RAY7

Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on October 10, 2016, 07:23:02 PM
Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 07:21:07 PM
Quote from: BLOND?. on October 10, 2016, 07:16:24 PM
But is he iconic in the way Britney or Beyonce are?

No.  And that's simply because outside of the music, there isn't really anything interesting about Usher.  No iconic outfits, no real iconic routines (even though he is a phonemonal dancer) like "Remember The Time", "Thriller", "Vogue", "Rhythm Nation", "Single Ladies", "I'm A Slave 4 U"......  No snake, no metal glove or alter ego, no bodysuit with the ass out....

There's no frenzy.  There's no real hype.  He can probably walk down the street without causing too much of a commotion.  And now he's sitting on The Voice alongside Shakira (who's being paid more).  When Mariah did American Idol, she was paid the most.  When Britney did X-Factor, she was paid the most.  And sadly, that just makes him seem desperate and washed up.  Not to mention, he's on Snapchat desperately taking nude pictures.  Didn't he just star in a movie?  If he were truly ICONIC, everything he does would in someway become an extension of his iconography.  He's just regular as hell now.

Usher is an R&B legend.  But he is not ICONIC.
this is BS and probably cuz you're gay
no offense


bbb

Ray WTF?! :uhh: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
n
Im sorry but its clear as a damn bell
"Vogue! Bey! Brit! Iconic outfits!" if he was waiving a rainbow flag I bet it would be "Iconic" to him

yummy

Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 07:23:35 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on October 10, 2016, 07:18:15 PM
Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 07:17:07 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on October 10, 2016, 07:15:21 PM
Where was Usher's mother when he was recording these R Kelly leftovers before he hit puberty? I'm disgusted.
she sent him to stay with Diddy
and he, has always said that wasnt the best place for a kid
the songs didnt sound like Molest at all though
more Jodeci

So she was a neglectful parent who let her child be sexualized for a chance at stardom.

How sad.
and now he's an Icon

Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 07:12:36 PM
and who said Im "bragging"? the album flopped

:kii:

MAY

This thread is about to take a turn... :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:

FlowerBomb

No iconic performances
No iconic pop culture moments
No iconic dances

BAPHOMET.

Quote from: BLOND?. on October 10, 2016, 07:16:24 PM
Usher is an R&B legend with more classics than any other artist his age.  His catalog (minus the last 2 albums) is pretty much flawless.  The Confessions album went Diamond and he was pretty much the biggest artist in the game at one point.  Back in the 90's, everyone wanted to "dance like Usher" or had Usher posters on their walls.  He was able to adapt at the start of the 2000's pioneering the futuristic Neptunes sound to R&B and later adapting and pioneering to the crunk sound with Lil Jon.  Being adaptable is the key to longevity.  His music is his impact.  Like many artists who have huge blockbuster albums, though, it became his downfall.  It took Polow leaking "Love In This Club" for him to even release another single.  The impact of his previous album helped that song fly to #1 within weeks.  But he steered away from his heartthrob image, got married, acted crazy on TRL defending Tameka, sued his biggest fansite for hating on his wife, and the Here I Stand album was a little too mature for his core audience.  By 30, he was cooling off.

But is he iconic in the way Britney or Beyonce are?

No.  And that's simply because outside of the music, there isn't really anything interesting about Usher.  No iconic outfits, no real iconic routines (even though he is a phonemonal dancer) like "Remember The Time", "Thriller", "Vogue", "Rhythm Nation", "Single Ladies", "I'm A Slave 4 U"......  No snake, no metal glove or alter ego, no bodysuit with the ass out....

There's no frenzy.  There's no real hype.  He can probably walk down the street without causing too much of a commotion.  And now he's sitting on The Voice alongside Shakira (who's being paid more).  When Mariah did American Idol, she was paid the most.  When Britney did X-Factor, she was paid the most.  And sadly, that just makes him seem desperate and washed up.  Not to mention, he's on Snapchat desperately taking nude pictures.  Didn't he just star in a movie?  If he were truly ICONIC, everything he does would in someway become an extension of his iconography.  He's just regular as hell now.

Usher is an R&B legend.  But he is not ICONIC.

Best post in here tbh


FlowerBomb

Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 07:25:13 PM
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on October 10, 2016, 07:23:02 PM
Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 07:21:07 PM
Quote from: BLOND?. on October 10, 2016, 07:16:24 PM
But is he iconic in the way Britney or Beyonce are?

No.  And that's simply because outside of the music, there isn't really anything interesting about Usher.  No iconic outfits, no real iconic routines (even though he is a phonemonal dancer) like "Remember The Time", "Thriller", "Vogue", "Rhythm Nation", "Single Ladies", "I'm A Slave 4 U"......  No snake, no metal glove or alter ego, no bodysuit with the ass out....

There's no frenzy.  There's no real hype.  He can probably walk down the street without causing too much of a commotion.  And now he's sitting on The Voice alongside Shakira (who's being paid more).  When Mariah did American Idol, she was paid the most.  When Britney did X-Factor, she was paid the most.  And sadly, that just makes him seem desperate and washed up.  Not to mention, he's on Snapchat desperately taking nude pictures.  Didn't he just star in a movie?  If he were truly ICONIC, everything he does would in someway become an extension of his iconography.  He's just regular as hell now.

Usher is an R&B legend.  But he is not ICONIC.
this is BS and probably cuz you're gay
no offense


bbb

Ray WTF?! :uhh: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
n
Im sorry but its clear as a damn bell
"Vogue! Bey! Brit! Iconic outfits!" if he was waiving a rainbow flag I bet it would be "Iconic" to him
I guess you chose to miss out the parts where he referenced MJ right

BAPHOMET.

I think i just attached Icon to how long Ush' has been around when i made my initial post.


FlowerBomb

Blonde was talking about popular moments, dances, or fashion statements that made the aforementioned artists iconic.
It had nothing to do with them being "cunt" :dead:
Usher doesnt have any of those which he mentioned, no real pop culture impact