Need some OPINIONS! I can't deal with my Manager...

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December 16, 2016, 11:08:15 AM Last Edit: December 16, 2016, 11:11:57 AM by BLOND?.
My boss is literally driving me crazy, because she is constantly sending mixed messages.  I work for a young & dynamic company that specializes in marketing.  I wouldn't necessarily consider it a "marketing firm", because we do everything from plan events around the city or work with major clients to help with major advertising campaigns, promotion, brainstorming, etc.

Well, long story short (as short as I can make it anyway)... My role is to really coordinate the "quality" piece of everything we do.  And in doing that, I am known as the police, because I'm always auditing everyone's work.  Well, ever since I started, there's this running joke around the office that I'm my boss's "henchman" or "assistant".  Granted, I do get a lot of busy work & she does groom me to kind of be HER when she isn't in the office, but I'm not petty nor do I go after people.  There's a team of 4 managers directly under my boss.  And the heirarchy goes down from there -- in office anyway.    My relationship with these 4 managers is rocky, because I "police" their people.  So, whenever I have to uphold the standards of quality and call out someone on their teams, they feel I'm personally throwing them (the manager) under the bus.  They're all so sensitive and any critique to a member on their team is like a reflection of them.

So anywho... to the POINT of where I'm going with this.  My manager is pregnant.  She has been telling me she wants me to run certain meetings and kind of step into her shoes when she is on her maternity leave.  She's let me know she is taking the ENTIRE leave and won't be answering calls or E-Mails.  But the problem I'm having is she shoots me down ANY TIME I step up to the plate.  And it's hurting my confidence.  I really try to go in and own these meetings, partner with the other managers, really just doing everything that she does without the extra authority (because I'm not their boss) --- And one time she told me I came off too aggressive!  As a black man, hearing that from a white woman really fired me UP. 

Especially because the managers actually told me they liked my approach.  I feel my manager is insecure that sometimes I do her role better than her, and she never praises me or tells me that it was good.  But yet AND STILL keeps hammering into my head that I will be the one running a lot of shit when she is gone.  There's so much trust in me and she depends on me, but never gives me her approval.  I am having a hard time being confident!

I got my performance review yesterday for Quarter 4, and she gave me low marks on Collaborating/Leading  and also Innovation.  We are talking about someone that is always asking for ideas & fresh new ways to do things -- but whenever you offer something -- she rejects it!


"YEAH!  Let me think about that!"
"Hmmmm.  I don't know about that!"
"Explain that a little more!"
"Let's circle back to that!"


In her mind, I think she believes she's this progressive hands-off woman.  But she is a micromanager, closed minded & way too structured to really grow.  She has to let go!   Because no one under her can truly grow.  How can you push your team to step up and own their role in leadership, but you make sure to knock them down a peg EVERY time they try?

I just don't know how to deal with this.  And it has literally been driving me CRAZY!

FINE.

I know you're super stressed because of this. She def sounds threatened by you. And that "aggressive" comment she made would have sent me over. That's how "they" think of us anyway.  Just try to play it cool. Continue doing u and kinda kiss her ass without really kissing her ass if you know what I mean.

XXX.

Quote from: bougi?. on December 16, 2016, 11:23:44 AM
I know you're super stressed because of this. She def sounds threatened by you. And that "aggressive" comment she made would have sent me over. That's how "they" think of us anyway.  Just try to play it cool. Continue doing u and kinda kiss her ass without really kissing her ass if you know what I mean.

!!!!!!!!!!!!

I swear.  I have been working on not trying to take every little thing to heart, but that comment had me pressed for a long time.

And yes, I feel the same way.  When I am assertive & confident, it's seen as "aggressive".  But when the white male manager gives the same mess, he's "collaborative".

It really pisses me off.

XXX.

Quote from: Afar on December 16, 2016, 11:26:30 AM
Jesus u can type gorl

R u my long lost sister

Gonna read n reply soon as I get back to the comp :blessed:

nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnddds

:blush:

Just Dropped In To See What Condition My Condition Was In

Here's my take on this and I have a few questions to ask first? Was she acting this way before she got pregnant? Because when a woman is pregnant her hormones are all over the place and that may play a part in her emotions. Now if she was acting this way before she got pregnant then that's a totally different story and she is definitely threatened by you possibly taking HER job and doing a better job than HER at it. That's a huge sign of insecurity on her part and if that is the case I suggest you have a meeting with her but have a liaison who can vouch on your behalf there as well and address your concerns in a cohesive and coherent manner to keep possible conflict from happening. But if she wasn't acting this way beforehand, just chalk it up to her fucking pregnancy hormones and ignore the fuck out of her and give a shady smirk and nod your head. Trust me, don't piss off a pregnant woman. Nothing worse than a pissed off hormonal pregnant woman. LOL
I am scarred, so fucking scarred
These are the scars of me
The very fucking scars of me
This is my tragic heart
My tragic heart

-Me "Tragic Heart"

MAY

It sounds like she wants you to take the responsibility, but not the praise. She's definitely threatened, and with her going on maternity leave her insecurities are at an all time high. Whenever someone takes an extended leave from the office there's always a chance that someone stepping into their position will do the job better than them, which could cause a lot of change or reassessment when they return.

The people there don't use you because of her. You're guilty by association. I say keep doing what you do. Once she's gone you run things the way you prefer and watch how people in the office begin to gravitate towards you.

Just Dropped In To See What Condition My Condition Was In

And I'm dead ass serious about don't want to piss off a hormonal pregnant woman. I've been there and don't want to experience that ever again.
I am scarred, so fucking scarred
These are the scars of me
The very fucking scars of me
This is my tragic heart
My tragic heart

-Me "Tragic Heart"

Just Dropped In To See What Condition My Condition Was In

Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on December 16, 2016, 11:35:41 AM
It sounds like she wants you to take the responsibility, but not the praise. She's definitely threatened, and with her going on maternity leave her insecurities are at an all time high. Whenever someone takes an extended leave from the office there's always a chance that someone stepping into their position will do the job better than them, which could cause a lot of change or reassessment when they return.

The people there don't use you because of her. You're guilty by association. I say keep doing what you do. Once she's gone you run things the way you prefer and watch how people in the office begin to gravitate towards you.
!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am scarred, so fucking scarred
These are the scars of me
The very fucking scars of me
This is my tragic heart
My tragic heart

-Me "Tragic Heart"

Real

I would say address your concerns with her. But she's about to be on leave, so this is really your chance to brand yourself and kinda take over :letsmessfag: . If you kill it, your reputation will speak for itself and you won't need her to sing your praises. Be creative with a new process or something that's totally yours. People above her will definitely notice.

XXX.

December 16, 2016, 11:46:12 AM #9 Last Edit: December 16, 2016, 11:52:18 AM by BLOND?.
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on December 16, 2016, 11:35:41 AM
It sounds like she wants you to take the responsibility, but not the praise. She's definitely threatened, and with her going on maternity leave her insecurities are at an all time high. Whenever someone takes an extended leave from the office there's always a chance that someone stepping into their position will do the job better than them, which could cause a lot of change or reassessment when they return.

The people there don't use you because of her. You're guilty by association. I say keep doing what you do. Once she's gone you run things the way you prefer and watch how people in the office begin to gravitate towards you.

Thanks for the response!  I appreciate it.

And I have been trying to be more alert and aware to the fact that she may be dealing with her own insecurities & stress being pregnant.  I do know she is someone that likes to take the shine.  I've caught her in E-Mail chains or heard of situations where she's been thanked or will stand there beaming in praise for work that I busted my ass on.  And granted, in most businesses that's just how it goes.  The big boss is the "face" and everyone else is really doing the hard work to deliver.  So, I am okay not always getting direct praise for most of the work I do. 

But now I'm just looking for growth.  And I feel so stifled. 


FINE.

Quote from: BLOND?. on December 16, 2016, 11:30:07 AM
Quote from: bougi?. on December 16, 2016, 11:23:44 AM
I know you're super stressed because of this. She def sounds threatened by you. And that "aggressive" comment she made would have sent me over. That's how "they" think of us anyway.  Just try to play it cool. Continue doing u and kinda kiss her ass without really kissing her ass if you know what I mean.

!!!!!!!!!!!!

I swear.  I have been working on not trying to take every little thing to heart, but that comment had me pressed for a long time.

And yes, I feel the same way.  When I am assertive & confident, it's seen as "aggressive".  But when the white male manager gives the same mess, he's "collaborative".

It really pisses me off.
Just continue doing you no shade. And up the ante on that ass a bit while she's on maternity leave. :justabit:

Like Real said ppl above her will notice. Doesn't sound like ur doing a bad job. She won't know what hit her. Don't let her break your confidence.

MAY

Quote from: Real on December 16, 2016, 11:39:43 AM
I would say address your concerns with her. But she's about to be on leave, so this is really your chance to brand yourself and kinda take over :letsmessfag: . If you kill it, your reputation will speak for itself and you won't need her to sing your praises. Be creative with a new process or something that's totally yours. People above her will definitely notice.

!!!

Honestly, this is your moment.

yummy

I'm gonna respond later when I get to my computer cause I'm dealing with something similar with the pale demons at my job.

FINE.