Chicago students won't get diplomas unless...

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KING BENTLEY.

July 06, 2017, 12:32:22 PM #105 Last Edit: July 06, 2017, 12:38:11 PM by ORORO MUNROE-UDAKU
This is so damaging, especially to low income and minority students, and sadly blacks fit both demographics.

But the bottom line for America has always been to widen the gap. And like Sista Soulja said, take away our power to stand on our own two, to de-educate us.

Instead of going to a "pre-K to college" system, they need to be finding ways to LESSEN the burden of our educational system in America and overall make it more efficient.

We have to question why Chinese and Japanese students are more capable at a younger age!

This is just sad. And with Trump in office the agenda is really getting pushed further.

H.#.G.*.Z

AIDS

Quote from: LORD GRAND SUPREME PRIME CELESTIAL MARSHALL on July 06, 2017, 12:31:59 PM
But this level of GET BLK PPL THE FCK OUT is the most extreme I've EVER seen

:guys:

Ive seen gentrification in my own city but its usually like a small block or something

Not a whole damns section of a city with schools and entire neighborhoods

!!!

This is definitely different.

GRAND

Quote from: KhoiZan on July 06, 2017, 12:33:48 PM
Quote from: LORD GRAND SUPREME PRIME CELESTIAL MARSHALL on July 06, 2017, 12:31:59 PM
But this level of GET BLK PPL THE FCK OUT is the most extreme I've EVER seen

:guys:

Ive seen gentrification in my own city but its usually like a small block or something

Not a whole damns section of a city with schools and entire neighborhoods
You clearly haven't been to Brooklyn then. :plzstop:

People used to kii @ the thought of even moving there. It was the hood -- period.
But now it's "artsy! edgy! the place for young professionals."

Only one of my neighbors were Black in my building.
I understand that, but Chicago is the only place I know of where 16 people die in one McDonalds on a sunday afternoon

GRAND

Quote from: KhoiZan on July 06, 2017, 12:34:33 PM
or Harlem.

Another place that used to be the butt of hood jokes. Now it's "upscale! historic!"

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Like..this is nothing new.
I didn't say white people throwing the blacks out are new

but this initially stemmed from the gun violence and unemployment rates for me and why its happening so bad in chicago

Thats what Kurama posted   :dead:

Kurama

Quote from: KhoiZan on July 06, 2017, 12:29:21 PM
Gentrification is not a unique issue for Chicago by a long shot. Nor is poor school funding in Black neighborhoods.
I could pull up dozens of articles reflecting the same issues in other inner city neighborhoods around the country.

What I'm addressing is the uniquely higher need for employment there.
And how that makes this new rule somewhat logical.

Hope that makes sense.

Gentrification isn't the topic its a sidebar. Yes, poor funding is something that happens in our communities but like pretty much everything in life, the degree to which it extends or impacts vary.


Well you have your own definition of what is logical. I personally don't see how placing yet another barrier for some of these kids barely making it to their senior year, who are having to survive hiking to some of these "better" neighborhoods, and who come from areas without education, jobs, or overall support is helpful. Not even taking to account familial and cultural barriers.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions I guess.

RAY7

Quote from: Kurama on July 06, 2017, 12:37:34 PM
Quote from: KhoiZan on July 06, 2017, 12:29:21 PM
Gentrification is not a unique issue for Chicago by a long shot. Nor is poor school funding in Black neighborhoods.
I could pull up dozens of articles reflecting the same issues in other inner city neighborhoods around the country.

What I'm addressing is the uniquely higher need for employment there.
And how that makes this new rule somewhat logical.

Hope that makes sense.

Gentrification isn't the topic its a sidebar. Yes, poor funding is something that happens in our communities but like pretty much everything in life, the degree to which it extends or impacts vary.


Well you have your own definition of what is logical. I personally don't see how placing yet another barrier for some of these kids barely making it to their senior year, who are having to survive hiking to some of these "better" neighborhoods, and who come from areas without education, jobs, or overall support is helpful. Not even taking to account familial and cultural barriers.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions I guess.
how is this a "barrier" for anyone? It's about the diploma
if a kid is eligible to get a diploma they're automatically eligible for the things that the program is forcing them to get (a college acceptance, job, military enrollment, etc.)

Stunna Gor’

Quote from: LORD GRAND SUPREME PRIME CELESTIAL MARSHALL on July 06, 2017, 12:03:25 PM
Quote from: Kurama on July 06, 2017, 12:01:22 PM
Quote from: KhoiZan on July 06, 2017, 11:48:27 AM
Take a look at this before you guys continue to question this decision:

https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20170523/englewood/state-black-unemployment-tied-for-worst-nation-report-says

I already knew this would be the case based on this new rule, but I wanted to double check Google. And sure enough...

You probably should read this

http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/20170428/BLOGS02/170429849/emanuel-cps-will-complete-full-term-through-june-20

It highlights how the school system here has been fighting with the govenor and state to get their needs met.

Chicago public schools have lost millions of dollars in funding for years. Dozens of schools have closed in the short timespan that Ive been here. Where do you think most of these schools are? They're not in the white neighborhoods?

http://www.usccr.gov/pubs/IL-FoodDeserts-2011.pdf

https://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/chicago-politics-segregation-african-american-black-white-hispanic-latino-population-census-community/Content?oid=3221712

this highlights food desserts and a overall lack of resources in these same areas. You can search englewood and see that it is one of the most resource lacking environments in the city.

Another Black community btw.

Now, add all of these factors into a nice cocktail. Poverty, no resources, schools are being closed down in non-white communitties, folks become aggressive ( impoverished folks do statistically), gun violence and BAM!


I'd add some context to the way you all are approaching this. Yall ki about gun violence and people being hoodlums often but its a little more multifaceted than posting and article and saying this is what it is....
This definitely puts it in a better perspective for me

Because I couldn't really understand why gun violence was so massive there

But, it looks like they're literally trying to put black people OWT  :dead: or rather a certain financial class of them
Hhhhhh

Yea.... Chicago is kinda on whole other level of MESS for this to even be effective. :dead: He lives there, so I'm sure he would have a better understanding of what's really HAPP'.

KING BENTLEY.

Quote from: AYR on July 06, 2017, 12:42:46 PM
Quote from: Kurama on July 06, 2017, 12:37:34 PM
Quote from: KhoiZan on July 06, 2017, 12:29:21 PM
Gentrification is not a unique issue for Chicago by a long shot. Nor is poor school funding in Black neighborhoods.
I could pull up dozens of articles reflecting the same issues in other inner city neighborhoods around the country.

What I'm addressing is the uniquely higher need for employment there.
And how that makes this new rule somewhat logical.

Hope that makes sense.

Gentrification isn't the topic its a sidebar. Yes, poor funding is something that happens in our communities but like pretty much everything in life, the degree to which it extends or impacts vary.


Well you have your own definition of what is logical. I personally don't see how placing yet another barrier for some of these kids barely making it to their senior year, who are having to survive hiking to some of these "better" neighborhoods, and who come from areas without education, jobs, or overall support is helpful. Not even taking to account familial and cultural barriers.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions I guess.
how is this a "barrier" for anyone? It's about the diploma
if a kid is eligible to get a diploma they're automatically eligible for the things that the program is forcing them to get (a college acceptance, job, military enrollment, etc.)
tickets to a fairytale imo. It's a nice thought, but I wouldn't say this is statement is automatically true.

If kids are skipping school now, where is a rule like this going to drive them?

H.#.G.*.Z

RAY7

Quote from: ORORO MUNROE-UDAKU on July 06, 2017, 12:48:02 PM
Quote from: AYR on July 06, 2017, 12:42:46 PM
Quote from: Kurama on July 06, 2017, 12:37:34 PM
Quote from: KhoiZan on July 06, 2017, 12:29:21 PM
Gentrification is not a unique issue for Chicago by a long shot. Nor is poor school funding in Black neighborhoods.
I could pull up dozens of articles reflecting the same issues in other inner city neighborhoods around the country.

What I'm addressing is the uniquely higher need for employment there.
And how that makes this new rule somewhat logical.

Hope that makes sense.

Gentrification isn't the topic its a sidebar. Yes, poor funding is something that happens in our communities but like pretty much everything in life, the degree to which it extends or impacts vary.


Well you have your own definition of what is logical. I personally don't see how placing yet another barrier for some of these kids barely making it to their senior year, who are having to survive hiking to some of these "better" neighborhoods, and who come from areas without education, jobs, or overall support is helpful. Not even taking to account familial and cultural barriers.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions I guess.
how is this a "barrier" for anyone? It's about the diploma
if a kid is eligible to get a diploma they're automatically eligible for the things that the program is forcing them to get (a college acceptance, job, military enrollment, etc.)
tickets to a fairytale imo. It's a nice thought, but I wouldn't say this is statement is automatically true.

If kids are skipping school now, where is a rule like this going to drive them?
its definitely true IDK what kids skipping school has to do with this
those kids aren't trying to get their diploma anyway

Lane Bryant Jumpsuit

Quote from: Kordei. on July 06, 2017, 10:12:25 AM
You can't implement shit like this as if everyone's situation is the same. There is real struggle out there and many people are at a disadvantage. Particularly Black Boys. I wish God was real so that he could wipe this earth of all white people.

Except my family members.
the sun is slowly burning them alive



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Different

Opposites Attract.

Quote from: Kurama on July 06, 2017, 12:01:22 PM
Quote from: KhoiZan on July 06, 2017, 11:48:27 AM
Take a look at this before you guys continue to question this decision:

https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20170523/englewood/state-black-unemployment-tied-for-worst-nation-report-says

I already knew this would be the case based on this new rule, but I wanted to double check Google. And sure enough...

You probably should read this

http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/20170428/BLOGS02/170429849/emanuel-cps-will-complete-full-term-through-june-20

It highlights how the school system here has been fighting with the govenor and state to get their needs met.

Chicago public schools have lost millions of dollars in funding for years. Dozens of schools have closed in the short timespan that Ive been here. Where do you think most of these schools are? They're not in the white neighborhoods?

http://www.usccr.gov/pubs/IL-FoodDeserts-2011.pdf

https://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/chicago-politics-segregation-african-american-black-white-hispanic-latino-population-census-community/Content?oid=3221712

this highlights food desserts and a overall lack of resources in these same areas. You can search englewood and see that it is one of the most resource lacking environments in the city.

Another Black community btw.

Now, add all of these factors into a nice cocktail. Poverty, no resources, schools are being closed down in non-white communitties, folks become aggressive ( impoverished folks do statistically), gun violence and BAM!


I'd add some context to the way you all are approaching this. Yall ki about gun violence and people being hoodlums often but its a little more multifaceted than posting an article and saying this is what it is....
Thanks beloved


It's unconditional, these days you know....

Lane Bryant Jumpsuit

Quote from: AYR on July 06, 2017, 10:20:48 AM
I like this
did everyone read the actual article?
It says you have to have college acceptance, a job or military enlisted
if you have the grades to get your diploma I don't see how none of these options would be possible Black or not. and tbh if you wanna beat this all you have to do is get accepted to a junior/community college real quick until graduation
don't even have to really attend

so dumb

how bout you shut the fuck up

no one dictates what  you do when you graduate  cause that has nothing to do with high school if you earned your diploma you earned it like...

lol @ grades do you know how many niggas are d and c students?

and coming up with ways to "beat" the system is dumb cause the system is wrong to propose this from jump so having ppul beat it defeats the original purpose and is equally just as dumb



Lewie D Im Caramel Bitches Ion Wanna hear Im Actin
Different

Just Dropped In To See What Condition My Condition Was In

If the students get the grades and the credits to graduate from school, then they should receive their diploma. END OF STORY. Guidance counselors and parents should be pissed off regarding this law because it's stupid and doesn't really serve a purpose but to put more and more young people behind and making sure that they become a statistic. Simple as that.
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These are the scars of me
The very fucking scars of me
This is my tragic heart
My tragic heart

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Opposites Attract.

July 06, 2017, 01:02:56 PM #118 Last Edit: July 06, 2017, 01:03:13 PM by Kordei.
and who tf is living in these poor communities traveling abroad? Some of them haven't even visited other parts of Illinois let alone thinking about traveling to another country :uhh:


It's unconditional, these days you know....

Kurama

Quote from: KhoiZan on July 06, 2017, 01:00:10 PM
Quote from: Kurama on July 06, 2017, 12:37:34 PM
Quote from: KhoiZan on July 06, 2017, 12:29:21 PM
Gentrification is not a unique issue for Chicago by a long shot. Nor is poor school funding in Black neighborhoods.
I could pull up dozens of articles reflecting the same issues in other inner city neighborhoods around the country.

What I'm addressing is the uniquely higher need for employment there.
And how that makes this new rule somewhat logical.

Hope that makes sense.

Gentrification isn't the topic its a sidebar. Yes, poor funding is something that happens in our communities but like pretty much everything in life, the degree to which it extends or impacts vary.


Well you have your own definition of what is logical. I personally don't see how placing yet another barrier for some of these kids barely making it to their senior year, who are having to survive hiking to some of these "better" neighborhoods, and who come from areas without education, jobs, or overall support is helpful. Not even taking to account familial and cultural barriers.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions I guess.
And my opinion is that lil Jaquan from Chicago is less likely to spend his gap year broadening his horizons and doing world traveling, and is more likely to spend it getting in trouble or shot down by a cop for wandering around in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Okay,

Im not sure what this has to do with what you and I began conversing about.

I also think if you actually look at everything  I presented in context "world traveling" is also problematic.