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And that's why I put "conversation" in quotations. At no point were we really conversing, as I honestly didn't pay much attention to anything you posted.

Understandable, another interesting point though. Especially considering how you seem to proclaim how you enjoy a certain type of interaction that allows folks to have different perspectives and remain adult, respectful, and non-shady.

Maybe if you actually paid attention more you wouldn't become so disgruntled or "unbothered" when your perspective is well... stomped out- for a lack of better phrase lolz.

I would love to see this facade you're trying to keep up actually become a reality love.

omg 😲

[RAY7]

Gentrification is not a unique issue for Chicago by a long shot. Nor is poor school funding in Black neighborhoods.
I could pull up dozens of articles reflecting the same issues in other inner city neighborhoods around the country.

What I'm addressing is the uniquely higher need for employment there.
And how that makes this new rule somewhat logical.

Hope that makes sense.

Gentrification isn't the topic its a sidebar. Yes, poor funding is something that happens in our communities but like pretty much everything in life, the degree to which it extends or impacts vary.


Well you have your own definition of what is logical. I personally don't see how placing yet another barrier for some of these kids barely making it to their senior year, who are having to survive hiking to some of these "better" neighborhoods, and who come from areas without education, jobs, or overall support is helpful. Not even taking to account familial and cultural barriers.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions I guess.

how is this a "barrier" for anyone? It's about the diploma
if a kid is eligible to get a diploma they're automatically eligible for the things that the program is forcing them to get (a college acceptance, job, military enrollment, etc.)

I really think you're coming from a personal place rather than looking at context and different lived experiences.

A kid is eligible for a diploma based on their performance in school. Nothing afterward. Some kids do not go to college, its not for everyone. Same for the military.

To force kids to have engagement with either (especially military) just to receive something they already earned is criminal. Especially taking into account that not having a diploma will effectively hinder their gross income potential(may affect their families), they would have to remain in school after completing all courses, they would be forced to engage in something they may not even want to do.

All of this may even push them back to the communities that they were tryna get away from.

Im not viewing this personally at all. Earning a high school diploma automatically places a person in the position for some type of higher education or employment. You can even be employed at certain places before getting a diploma. This is not saying you have to start a career or go to an Ivy League school. It's just asking for proof that the student is at least trying to better themself. Military or college, gap, a job SOMETHING
and for college they just want an acceptance letter you don't even have to go. No one is being forced into any certain place they don't want to be except staying home doing nothing
and life is not always about what everyone "wants" this is teaching these kids that very important lesson. When you're an adult no has to let you just wait until you're "ready". Verizon doesn't "give me a break" because I graduated before they ask for their money for the phone bill
why should these kids be allowed to not do anything because they got a diploma which is really nothing in today's work force?

[RAY7]

I like this
did everyone read the actual article?
It says you have to have college acceptance, a job or military enlisted
if you have the grades to get your diploma I don't see how none of these options would be possible Black or not. and tbh if you wanna beat this all you have to do is get accepted to a junior/community college real quick until graduation
don't even have to really attend

so dumb

how bout you shut the fuck up

no one dictates what  you do when you graduate  cause that has nothing to do with high school if you earned your diploma you earned it like...

lol @ grades do you know how many niggas are d and c students?

and coming up with ways to "beat" the system is dumb cause the system is wrong to propose this from jump so having ppul beat it defeats the original purpose and is equally just as dumb

what are you arguing? C students can get diplomas and jobs/go to college boy go eat

Im arguing its none of your fucking business what i do when i graduate

if you're a resident in my city where I'm the mayor it is my business

No its not

are your records not kept at city hall in your town?

[FlowerBomb]

[Kurama]

Gentrification is not a unique issue for Chicago by a long shot. Nor is poor school funding in Black neighborhoods.
I could pull up dozens of articles reflecting the same issues in other inner city neighborhoods around the country.

What I'm addressing is the uniquely higher need for employment there.
And how that makes this new rule somewhat logical.

Hope that makes sense.

Gentrification isn't the topic its a sidebar. Yes, poor funding is something that happens in our communities but like pretty much everything in life, the degree to which it extends or impacts vary.


Well you have your own definition of what is logical. I personally don't see how placing yet another barrier for some of these kids barely making it to their senior year, who are having to survive hiking to some of these "better" neighborhoods, and who come from areas without education, jobs, or overall support is helpful. Not even taking to account familial and cultural barriers.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions I guess.

how is this a "barrier" for anyone? It's about the diploma
if a kid is eligible to get a diploma they're automatically eligible for the things that the program is forcing them to get (a college acceptance, job, military enrollment, etc.)

I really think you're coming from a personal place rather than looking at context and different lived experiences.

A kid is eligible for a diploma based on their performance in school. Nothing afterward. Some kids do not go to college, its not for everyone. Same for the military.

To force kids to have engagement with either (especially military) just to receive something they already earned is criminal. Especially taking into account that not having a diploma will effectively hinder their gross income potential(may affect their families), they would have to remain in school after completing all courses, they would be forced to engage in something they may not even want to do.

All of this may even push them back to the communities that they were tryna get away from.

Im not viewing this personally at all. 1.Earning a high school diploma automatically places a person in the position for some type of higher education or employment. You can even be employed at certain places before getting a diploma. This is not saying you have to start a career or go to an Ivy League school. 2.It's just asking for proof that the student is at least trying to better themself. Military or college, gap, a job SOMETHING
and for college they just want an acceptance letter you don't even have to go. 3. No one is being forced into any certain place they don't want to be except staying home doing nothing
and life is not always about what everyone "wants" this is teaching these kids that very important lesson. When you're an adult no has to let you just wait until you're "ready". Verizon doesn't "give me a break" because I graduated before they ask for their money for the phone bill
4.why should these kids be allowed to not do anything because they got a diploma which is really nothing in today's work force?

Agreed so why place another obstacle to attain one?

College and the military are the only ways to better yourself? Aren't there people, hell even celebrities who have done immensely well for themselves and their communities without either?

Who decides what lessons are important? The kids? The parents? The government? I don't think having a whole curriculum around geometry, PE, physics, or trig have been helpful in my life or my friends.

That's the assumption I don't agree with. We're conditioned to feel like college and the military are our ONLY options. Considering how people have been graduating with degrees for almost a decade and still not finding jobs while being buried in debt, considering how there are veterans who come back from war homeless without any assistance, and considering how the government has been instrumental in harming these kids, the community, and their education for decades now this is just another policy that asks folks to jump through hoops.


I guarantee yall that these kids who are seniors who do want to strive to make something of themselves (I'd argue that they probably already have) have the drive to do it on their own. REQUIRING them to prove that to you, the institution, and the government that doesn't really give a shit about them is asinine imo.

[Aamerie.]

I agree with Ku'

[MelMel]

Gentrification is not a unique issue for Chicago by a long shot. Nor is poor school funding in Black neighborhoods.
I could pull up dozens of articles reflecting the same issues in other inner city neighborhoods around the country.

What I'm addressing is the uniquely higher need for employment there.
And how that makes this new rule somewhat logical.

Hope that makes sense.

Gentrification isn't the topic its a sidebar. Yes, poor funding is something that happens in our communities but like pretty much everything in life, the degree to which it extends or impacts vary.


Well you have your own definition of what is logical. I personally don't see how placing yet another barrier for some of these kids barely making it to their senior year, who are having to survive hiking to some of these "better" neighborhoods, and who come from areas without education, jobs, or overall support is helpful. Not even taking to account familial and cultural barriers.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions I guess.

how is this a "barrier" for anyone? It's about the diploma
if a kid is eligible to get a diploma they're automatically eligible for the things that the program is forcing them to get (a college acceptance, job, military enrollment, etc.)

I really think you're coming from a personal place rather than looking at context and different lived experiences.

A kid is eligible for a diploma based on their performance in school. Nothing afterward. Some kids do not go to college, its not for everyone. Same for the military.

To force kids to have engagement with either (especially military) just to receive something they already earned is criminal. Especially taking into account that not having a diploma will effectively hinder their gross income potential(may affect their families), they would have to remain in school after completing all courses, they would be forced to engage in something they may not even want to do.

All of this may even push them back to the communities that they were tryna get away from.

Im not viewing this personally at all. 1.Earning a high school diploma automatically places a person in the position for some type of higher education or employment. You can even be employed at certain places before getting a diploma. This is not saying you have to start a career or go to an Ivy League school. 2.It's just asking for proof that the student is at least trying to better themself. Military or college, gap, a job SOMETHING
and for college they just want an acceptance letter you don't even have to go. 3. No one is being forced into any certain place they don't want to be except staying home doing nothing
and life is not always about what everyone "wants" this is teaching these kids that very important lesson. When you're an adult no has to let you just wait until you're "ready". Verizon doesn't "give me a break" because I graduated before they ask for their money for the phone bill
4.why should these kids be allowed to not do anything because they got a diploma which is really nothing in today's work force?

Agreed so why place another obstacle to attain one?

College and the military are the only ways to better yourself? Aren't there people, hell even celebrities who have done immensely well for themselves and their communities without either?

Who decides what lessons are important? The kids? The parents? The government? I don't think having a whole curriculum around geometry, PE, physics, or trig have been helpful in my life or my friends.

That's the assumption I don't agree with. We're conditioned to feel like college and the military are our ONLY options. Considering how people have been graduating with degrees for almost a decade and still not finding jobs while being buried in debt, considering how there are veterans who come back from war homeless without any assistance, and considering how the government has been instrumental in harming these kids, the community, and their education for decades now this is just another policy that asks folks to jump through hoops.


I guarantee yall that these kids who are seniors who do want to strive to make something of themselves (I'd argue that they probably already have) have the drive to do it on their own. REQUIRING them to prove that to you, the institution, and the government that doesn't really give a shit about them is asinine imo.

you are just...

[KING BENTLEY.]

And that's why I put "conversation" in quotations. At no point were we really conversing, as I honestly didn't pay much attention to anything you posted.

Understandable, another interesting point though. Especially considering how you seem to proclaim how you enjoy a certain type of interaction that allows folks to have different perspectives and remain adult, respectful, and non-shady.

Maybe if you actually paid attention more you wouldn't become so disgruntled or "unbothered" when your perspective is well... stomped out- for a lack of better phrase lolz.

I would love to see this facade you're trying to keep up actually become a reality love.

listen .... LISTEN!

cause when I say I LOVE you!!!! Jesus CHRIST!!!

[❄️☃️🌨� Shuji Feels Different 🌨�☃️❄️]

I can never support something that removes free will from the equation.

[KING BENTLEY.]

K.

ssssssssssssssss

Juju on 'em curls
Juju on 'em curls
Juju on 'em
Juju on 'em
Juju on 'em curls

LMAO!!!!

[Lane Bryant Jumpsuit]

I like this
did everyone read the actual article?
It says you have to have college acceptance, a job or military enlisted
if you have the grades to get your diploma I don't see how none of these options would be possible Black or not. and tbh if you wanna beat this all you have to do is get accepted to a junior/community college real quick until graduation
don't even have to really attend

so dumb

how bout you shut the fuck up

no one dictates what  you do when you graduate  cause that has nothing to do with high school if you earned your diploma you earned it like...

lol @ grades do you know how many niggas are d and c students?

and coming up with ways to "beat" the system is dumb cause the system is wrong to propose this from jump so having ppul beat it defeats the original purpose and is equally just as dumb

what are you arguing? C students can get diplomas and jobs/go to college boy go eat

Im arguing its none of your fucking business what i do when i graduate

if you're a resident in my city where I'm the mayor it is my business

No its not

are your records not kept at city hall in your town?

Not school records thats kept by the respective school districts and schools

city hall keeps vital statistic information and marriage licenses  business and tax information ect

and a public official such as a mayor is not entitled to private information unless he gets a court order or subpoena to look into them

and school records are covered by the ferpa laws

you are not making sense

[RAY7]

Gentrification is not a unique issue for Chicago by a long shot. Nor is poor school funding in Black neighborhoods.
I could pull up dozens of articles reflecting the same issues in other inner city neighborhoods around the country.

What I'm addressing is the uniquely higher need for employment there.
And how that makes this new rule somewhat logical.

Hope that makes sense.

Gentrification isn't the topic its a sidebar. Yes, poor funding is something that happens in our communities but like pretty much everything in life, the degree to which it extends or impacts vary.


Well you have your own definition of what is logical. I personally don't see how placing yet another barrier for some of these kids barely making it to their senior year, who are having to survive hiking to some of these "better" neighborhoods, and who come from areas without education, jobs, or overall support is helpful. Not even taking to account familial and cultural barriers.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions I guess.

how is this a "barrier" for anyone? It's about the diploma
if a kid is eligible to get a diploma they're automatically eligible for the things that the program is forcing them to get (a college acceptance, job, military enrollment, etc.)

I really think you're coming from a personal place rather than looking at context and different lived experiences.

A kid is eligible for a diploma based on their performance in school. Nothing afterward. Some kids do not go to college, its not for everyone. Same for the military.

To force kids to have engagement with either (especially military) just to receive something they already earned is criminal. Especially taking into account that not having a diploma will effectively hinder their gross income potential(may affect their families), they would have to remain in school after completing all courses, they would be forced to engage in something they may not even want to do.

All of this may even push them back to the communities that they were tryna get away from.

Im not viewing this personally at all. 1.Earning a high school diploma automatically places a person in the position for some type of higher education or employment. You can even be employed at certain places before getting a diploma. This is not saying you have to start a career or go to an Ivy League school. 2.It's just asking for proof that the student is at least trying to better themself. Military or college, gap, a job SOMETHING
and for college they just want an acceptance letter you don't even have to go. 3. No one is being forced into any certain place they don't want to be except staying home doing nothing
and life is not always about what everyone "wants" this is teaching these kids that very important lesson. When you're an adult no has to let you just wait until you're "ready". Verizon doesn't "give me a break" because I graduated before they ask for their money for the phone bill
4.why should these kids be allowed to not do anything because they got a diploma which is really nothing in today's work force?

Agreed so why place another obstacle to attain one?

College and the military are the only ways to better yourself? Aren't there people, hell even celebrities who have done immensely well for themselves and their communities without either?

Who decides what lessons are important? The kids? The parents? The government? I don't think having a whole curriculum around geometry, PE, physics, or trig have been helpful in my life or my friends.

That's the assumption I don't agree with. We're conditioned to feel like college and the military are our ONLY options. Considering how people have been graduating with degrees for almost a decade and still not finding jobs while being buried in debt, considering how there are veterans who come back from war homeless without any assistance, and considering how the government has been instrumental in harming these kids, the community, and their education for decades now this is just another policy that asks folks to jump through hoops.


I guarantee yall that these kids who are seniors who do want to strive to make something of themselves (I'd argue that they probably already have) have the drive to do it on their own. REQUIRING them to prove that to you, the institution, and the government that doesn't really give a shit about them is asinine imo.

I see what you're saying I'm missing how this is an obstacle
if you're accepted to college already, or have a job already or doing something with yourself you should have no worries.
The only ppl who have an obstacle are those who just want to graduate and then "take a break" i.e. Sit at home doing nothing claiming you're deciding what you want to do. It doesn't say that the option has to be college or the military, just do SOMETHING. an internship, a trade school
do something to be productive
It's a PUSH instead of an obstacle for those who procrastinate and wait to get prepared for the future.
guess I'll just leave you with that we disagree

[Kurama]

Gentrification is not a unique issue for Chicago by a long shot. Nor is poor school funding in Black neighborhoods.
I could pull up dozens of articles reflecting the same issues in other inner city neighborhoods around the country.

What I'm addressing is the uniquely higher need for employment there.
And how that makes this new rule somewhat logical.

Hope that makes sense.

Gentrification isn't the topic its a sidebar. Yes, poor funding is something that happens in our communities but like pretty much everything in life, the degree to which it extends or impacts vary.


Well you have your own definition of what is logical. I personally don't see how placing yet another barrier for some of these kids barely making it to their senior year, who are having to survive hiking to some of these "better" neighborhoods, and who come from areas without education, jobs, or overall support is helpful. Not even taking to account familial and cultural barriers.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions I guess.

how is this a "barrier" for anyone? It's about the diploma
if a kid is eligible to get a diploma they're automatically eligible for the things that the program is forcing them to get (a college acceptance, job, military enrollment, etc.)

I really think you're coming from a personal place rather than looking at context and different lived experiences.

A kid is eligible for a diploma based on their performance in school. Nothing afterward. Some kids do not go to college, its not for everyone. Same for the military.

To force kids to have engagement with either (especially military) just to receive something they already earned is criminal. Especially taking into account that not having a diploma will effectively hinder their gross income potential(may affect their families), they would have to remain in school after completing all courses, they would be forced to engage in something they may not even want to do.

All of this may even push them back to the communities that they were tryna get away from.

Im not viewing this personally at all. 1.Earning a high school diploma automatically places a person in the position for some type of higher education or employment. You can even be employed at certain places before getting a diploma. This is not saying you have to start a career or go to an Ivy League school. 2.It's just asking for proof that the student is at least trying to better themself. Military or college, gap, a job SOMETHING
and for college they just want an acceptance letter you don't even have to go. 3. No one is being forced into any certain place they don't want to be except staying home doing nothing
and life is not always about what everyone "wants" this is teaching these kids that very important lesson. When you're an adult no has to let you just wait until you're "ready". Verizon doesn't "give me a break" because I graduated before they ask for their money for the phone bill
4.why should these kids be allowed to not do anything because they got a diploma which is really nothing in today's work force?

Agreed so why place another obstacle to attain one?

College and the military are the only ways to better yourself? Aren't there people, hell even celebrities who have done immensely well for themselves and their communities without either?

Who decides what lessons are important? The kids? The parents? The government? I don't think having a whole curriculum around geometry, PE, physics, or trig have been helpful in my life or my friends.

That's the assumption I don't agree with. We're conditioned to feel like college and the military are our ONLY options. Considering how people have been graduating with degrees for almost a decade and still not finding jobs while being buried in debt, considering how there are veterans who come back from war homeless without any assistance, and considering how the government has been instrumental in harming these kids, the community, and their education for decades now this is just another policy that asks folks to jump through hoops.


I guarantee yall that these kids who are seniors who do want to strive to make something of themselves (I'd argue that they probably already have) have the drive to do it on their own. REQUIRING them to prove that to you, the institution, and the government that doesn't really give a shit about them is asinine imo.

you are just...

Im still gonna kick your ass

[Kurama]

K.

ssssssssssssssss

Juju on 'em curls
Juju on 'em curls
Juju on 'em
Juju on 'em
Juju on 'em curls

LMAO!!!!

fnfjfj

ur terrible Bent

[MelMel]

Gentrification is not a unique issue for Chicago by a long shot. Nor is poor school funding in Black neighborhoods.
I could pull up dozens of articles reflecting the same issues in other inner city neighborhoods around the country.

What I'm addressing is the uniquely higher need for employment there.
And how that makes this new rule somewhat logical.

Hope that makes sense.

Gentrification isn't the topic its a sidebar. Yes, poor funding is something that happens in our communities but like pretty much everything in life, the degree to which it extends or impacts vary.


Well you have your own definition of what is logical. I personally don't see how placing yet another barrier for some of these kids barely making it to their senior year, who are having to survive hiking to some of these "better" neighborhoods, and who come from areas without education, jobs, or overall support is helpful. Not even taking to account familial and cultural barriers.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions I guess.

how is this a "barrier" for anyone? It's about the diploma
if a kid is eligible to get a diploma they're automatically eligible for the things that the program is forcing them to get (a college acceptance, job, military enrollment, etc.)

I really think you're coming from a personal place rather than looking at context and different lived experiences.

A kid is eligible for a diploma based on their performance in school. Nothing afterward. Some kids do not go to college, its not for everyone. Same for the military.

To force kids to have engagement with either (especially military) just to receive something they already earned is criminal. Especially taking into account that not having a diploma will effectively hinder their gross income potential(may affect their families), they would have to remain in school after completing all courses, they would be forced to engage in something they may not even want to do.

All of this may even push them back to the communities that they were tryna get away from.

Im not viewing this personally at all. 1.Earning a high school diploma automatically places a person in the position for some type of higher education or employment. You can even be employed at certain places before getting a diploma. This is not saying you have to start a career or go to an Ivy League school. 2.It's just asking for proof that the student is at least trying to better themself. Military or college, gap, a job SOMETHING
and for college they just want an acceptance letter you don't even have to go. 3. No one is being forced into any certain place they don't want to be except staying home doing nothing
and life is not always about what everyone "wants" this is teaching these kids that very important lesson. When you're an adult no has to let you just wait until you're "ready". Verizon doesn't "give me a break" because I graduated before they ask for their money for the phone bill
4.why should these kids be allowed to not do anything because they got a diploma which is really nothing in today's work force?

Agreed so why place another obstacle to attain one?

College and the military are the only ways to better yourself? Aren't there people, hell even celebrities who have done immensely well for themselves and their communities without either?

Who decides what lessons are important? The kids? The parents? The government? I don't think having a whole curriculum around geometry, PE, physics, or trig have been helpful in my life or my friends.

That's the assumption I don't agree with. We're conditioned to feel like college and the military are our ONLY options. Considering how people have been graduating with degrees for almost a decade and still not finding jobs while being buried in debt, considering how there are veterans who come back from war homeless without any assistance, and considering how the government has been instrumental in harming these kids, the community, and their education for decades now this is just another policy that asks folks to jump through hoops.


I guarantee yall that these kids who are seniors who do want to strive to make something of themselves (I'd argue that they probably already have) have the drive to do it on their own. REQUIRING them to prove that to you, the institution, and the government that doesn't really give a shit about them is asinine imo.

you are just...

Im still gonna kick your ass