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[RAY7]

I like this
did everyone read the actual article?
It says you have to have college acceptance, a job or military enlisted
if you have the grades to get your diploma I don't see how none of these options would be possible Black or not. and tbh if you wanna beat this all you have to do is get accepted to a junior/community college real quick until graduation
don't even have to really attend

so dumb

how bout you shut the fuck up

no one dictates what  you do when you graduate  cause that has nothing to do with high school if you earned your diploma you earned it like...

lol @ grades do you know how many niggas are d and c students?

and coming up with ways to "beat" the system is dumb cause the system is wrong to propose this from jump so having ppul beat it defeats the original purpose and is equally just as dumb

what are you arguing? C students can get diplomas and jobs/go to college boy go eat

Im arguing its none of your fucking business what i do when i graduate

if you're a resident in my city where I'm the mayor it is my business

No its not

are your records not kept at city hall in your town?

Not school records thats kept by the respective school districts and schools

city hall keeps vital statistic information and marriage licenses  business and tax information ect

and a public official such as a mayor is not entitled to private information unless he gets a court order or subpoena to look into them

and school records are covered by the ferpa laws

you are not making sense

no YOU are not making sense
what does school records have to do with what you do AFTER you graduate?
and just like I thought the business/tax info is right in the same building with the Mayor so a quick court order/ subpoena and he knows where you work or what you did after high school
thnx bye

[Kurama]

Gentrification is not a unique issue for Chicago by a long shot. Nor is poor school funding in Black neighborhoods.
I could pull up dozens of articles reflecting the same issues in other inner city neighborhoods around the country.

What I'm addressing is the uniquely higher need for employment there.
And how that makes this new rule somewhat logical.

Hope that makes sense.

Gentrification isn't the topic its a sidebar. Yes, poor funding is something that happens in our communities but like pretty much everything in life, the degree to which it extends or impacts vary.


Well you have your own definition of what is logical. I personally don't see how placing yet another barrier for some of these kids barely making it to their senior year, who are having to survive hiking to some of these "better" neighborhoods, and who come from areas without education, jobs, or overall support is helpful. Not even taking to account familial and cultural barriers.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions I guess.

how is this a "barrier" for anyone? It's about the diploma
if a kid is eligible to get a diploma they're automatically eligible for the things that the program is forcing them to get (a college acceptance, job, military enrollment, etc.)

I really think you're coming from a personal place rather than looking at context and different lived experiences.

A kid is eligible for a diploma based on their performance in school. Nothing afterward. Some kids do not go to college, its not for everyone. Same for the military.

To force kids to have engagement with either (especially military) just to receive something they already earned is criminal. Especially taking into account that not having a diploma will effectively hinder their gross income potential(may affect their families), they would have to remain in school after completing all courses, they would be forced to engage in something they may not even want to do.

All of this may even push them back to the communities that they were tryna get away from.

Im not viewing this personally at all. Earning a high school diploma automatically places a person in the position for some type of higher education or employment. You can even be employed at certain places before getting a diploma. This is not saying you have to start a career or go to an Ivy League school. It's just asking for proof that the student is at least trying to better themself. Military or college, gap, a job SOMETHING
and for college they just want an acceptance letter you don't even have to go. No one is being forced into any certain place they don't want to be except staying home doing nothing
and life is not always about what everyone "wants" this is teaching these kids that very important lesson. When you're an adult no has to let you just wait until you're "ready". Verizon doesn't "give me a break" because I graduated before they ask for their money for the phone bill
why should these kids be allowed to not do anything because they got a diploma which is really nothing in today's work force?

Cool, we can agree to disagree. I respect that Ray, thanks for the discussion.

[❄️☃️🌨� Shuji Feels Different 🌨�☃️❄️]

Gentrification is not a unique issue for Chicago by a long shot. Nor is poor school funding in Black neighborhoods.
I could pull up dozens of articles reflecting the same issues in other inner city neighborhoods around the country.

What I'm addressing is the uniquely higher need for employment there.
And how that makes this new rule somewhat logical.

Hope that makes sense.

Gentrification isn't the topic its a sidebar. Yes, poor funding is something that happens in our communities but like pretty much everything in life, the degree to which it extends or impacts vary.


Well you have your own definition of what is logical. I personally don't see how placing yet another barrier for some of these kids barely making it to their senior year, who are having to survive hiking to some of these "better" neighborhoods, and who come from areas without education, jobs, or overall support is helpful. Not even taking to account familial and cultural barriers.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions I guess.

how is this a "barrier" for anyone? It's about the diploma
if a kid is eligible to get a diploma they're automatically eligible for the things that the program is forcing them to get (a college acceptance, job, military enrollment, etc.)

I really think you're coming from a personal place rather than looking at context and different lived experiences.

A kid is eligible for a diploma based on their performance in school. Nothing afterward. Some kids do not go to college, its not for everyone. Same for the military.

To force kids to have engagement with either (especially military) just to receive something they already earned is criminal. Especially taking into account that not having a diploma will effectively hinder their gross income potential(may affect their families), they would have to remain in school after completing all courses, they would be forced to engage in something they may not even want to do.

All of this may even push them back to the communities that they were tryna get away from.

Im not viewing this personally at all. Earning a high school diploma automatically places a person in the position for some type of higher education or employment. You can even be employed at certain places before getting a diploma. This is not saying you have to start a career or go to an Ivy League school. It's just asking for proof that the student is at least trying to better themself. Military or college, gap, a job SOMETHING
and for college they just want an acceptance letter you don't even have to go. No one is being forced into any certain place they don't want to be except staying home doing nothing
and life is not always about what everyone "wants" this is teaching these kids that very important lesson. When you're an adult no has to let you just wait until you're "ready". Verizon doesn't "give me a break" because I graduated before they ask for their money for the phone bill
why should these kids be allowed to not do anything because they got a diploma which is really nothing in today's work force?

Cool, we can agree to disagree. I respect that Ray, thanks for the discussion.

Are you sure this met the "discussion" test ?

[Lane Bryant Jumpsuit]

I like this
did everyone read the actual article?
It says you have to have college acceptance, a job or military enlisted
if you have the grades to get your diploma I don't see how none of these options would be possible Black or not. and tbh if you wanna beat this all you have to do is get accepted to a junior/community college real quick until graduation
don't even have to really attend

so dumb

how bout you shut the fuck up

no one dictates what  you do when you graduate  cause that has nothing to do with high school if you earned your diploma you earned it like...

lol @ grades do you know how many niggas are d and c students?

and coming up with ways to "beat" the system is dumb cause the system is wrong to propose this from jump so having ppul beat it defeats the original purpose and is equally just as dumb

what are you arguing? C students can get diplomas and jobs/go to college boy go eat

Im arguing its none of your fucking business what i do when i graduate

if you're a resident in my city where I'm the mayor it is my business

No its not

are your records not kept at city hall in your town?

Not school records thats kept by the respective school districts and schools

city hall keeps vital statistic information and marriage licenses  business and tax information ect

and a public official such as a mayor is not entitled to private information unless he gets a court order or subpoena to look into them

and school records are covered by the ferpa laws

you are not making sense

no YOU are not making sense
what does school records have to do with what you do AFTER you graduate?
and just like I thought the business/tax info is right in the same building with the Mayor so a quick court order/ subpoena and he knows where you work or what you did after high school
thnx bye

U said they have access to records but not school records
meaning the mayors
office and school records should not intersect
and they would if you are preventing  a valid  graduation(school issue) because of a municipal issue (jobs)

its fine if the mayor inquires about that info but why would he?

[Kurama]

Gentrification is not a unique issue for Chicago by a long shot. Nor is poor school funding in Black neighborhoods.
I could pull up dozens of articles reflecting the same issues in other inner city neighborhoods around the country.

What I'm addressing is the uniquely higher need for employment there.
And how that makes this new rule somewhat logical.

Hope that makes sense.

Gentrification isn't the topic its a sidebar. Yes, poor funding is something that happens in our communities but like pretty much everything in life, the degree to which it extends or impacts vary.


Well you have your own definition of what is logical. I personally don't see how placing yet another barrier for some of these kids barely making it to their senior year, who are having to survive hiking to some of these "better" neighborhoods, and who come from areas without education, jobs, or overall support is helpful. Not even taking to account familial and cultural barriers.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions I guess.

how is this a "barrier" for anyone? It's about the diploma
if a kid is eligible to get a diploma they're automatically eligible for the things that the program is forcing them to get (a college acceptance, job, military enrollment, etc.)

I really think you're coming from a personal place rather than looking at context and different lived experiences.

A kid is eligible for a diploma based on their performance in school. Nothing afterward. Some kids do not go to college, its not for everyone. Same for the military.

To force kids to have engagement with either (especially military) just to receive something they already earned is criminal. Especially taking into account that not having a diploma will effectively hinder their gross income potential(may affect their families), they would have to remain in school after completing all courses, they would be forced to engage in something they may not even want to do.

All of this may even push them back to the communities that they were tryna get away from.

Im not viewing this personally at all. Earning a high school diploma automatically places a person in the position for some type of higher education or employment. You can even be employed at certain places before getting a diploma. This is not saying you have to start a career or go to an Ivy League school. It's just asking for proof that the student is at least trying to better themself. Military or college, gap, a job SOMETHING
and for college they just want an acceptance letter you don't even have to go. No one is being forced into any certain place they don't want to be except staying home doing nothing
and life is not always about what everyone "wants" this is teaching these kids that very important lesson. When you're an adult no has to let you just wait until you're "ready". Verizon doesn't "give me a break" because I graduated before they ask for their money for the phone bill
why should these kids be allowed to not do anything because they got a diploma which is really nothing in today's work force?

Cool, we can agree to disagree. I respect that Ray, thanks for the discussion.

Are you sure this met the "discussion" test ?

loved what u posted earlier btw bavi

[Vonc2002]

And that's why I put "conversation" in quotations. At no point were we really conversing, as I honestly didn't pay much attention to anything you posted.

Understandable, another interesting point though. Especially considering how you seem to proclaim how you enjoy a certain type of interaction that allows folks to have different perspectives and remain adult, respectful, and non-shady.

Maybe if you actually paid attention more you wouldn't become so disgruntled or "unbothered" when your perspective is well... stomped out- for a lack of better phrase lolz.

I would love to see this facade you're trying to keep up actually become a reality love.

Im sorry but

[Vonc2002]

Only when our perceptions are aligned will i engage u, otherwise we don't need to talk

[MelMel]

Only when our perceptions are aligned will i engage u, otherwise we don't need to talk

fuck u

[Vonc2002]

Gentrification is not a unique issue for Chicago by a long shot. Nor is poor school funding in Black neighborhoods.
I could pull up dozens of articles reflecting the same issues in other inner city neighborhoods around the country.

What I'm addressing is the uniquely higher need for employment there.
And how that makes this new rule somewhat logical.

Hope that makes sense.

Gentrification isn't the topic its a sidebar. Yes, poor funding is something that happens in our communities but like pretty much everything in life, the degree to which it extends or impacts vary.


Well you have your own definition of what is logical. I personally don't see how placing yet another barrier for some of these kids barely making it to their senior year, who are having to survive hiking to some of these "better" neighborhoods, and who come from areas without education, jobs, or overall support is helpful. Not even taking to account familial and cultural barriers.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions I guess.

how is this a "barrier" for anyone? It's about the diploma
if a kid is eligible to get a diploma they're automatically eligible for the things that the program is forcing them to get (a college acceptance, job, military enrollment, etc.)

I really think you're coming from a personal place rather than looking at context and different lived experiences.

A kid is eligible for a diploma based on their performance in school. Nothing afterward. Some kids do not go to college, its not for everyone. Same for the military.

To force kids to have engagement with either (especially military) just to receive something they already earned is criminal. Especially taking into account that not having a diploma will effectively hinder their gross income potential(may affect their families), they would have to remain in school after completing all courses, they would be forced to engage in something they may not even want to do.

All of this may even push them back to the communities that they were tryna get away from.

This is what i don't get! Like ur opting out of giving kids diplomas and how exactly will this be beneficial? So now i have no diploma and am forced to do things that i may not have done otherwise. Like, HOW is this positive or beneficial in any way?  We're gonna cut funding and we're gonna fire the people that were supposed to guide you, but u better fckn figure it out and FAST because otherwise all these yrs u spent in school will ALSO be for naught. Like, it's dumb. 

[Cartierline]

Whew Kur' is in here preaching

Love that boy sometimes

[RAY7]

What about getting a GED?

[Lane Bryant Jumpsuit]

Whew Kur' is in here preaching

Love that boy sometimes

thats my husband

[FlowerBomb]

Close this.

[MelMel]

Whew Kur' is in here preaching

Love that boy sometimes

thats my husband

oh?

[Kurama]

Only when our perceptions are aligned will i engage u, otherwise we don't need to talk

d

you and I know what it is, you didn't need to publicize this