Madonna calls Whitney "horribly mediocre" in old letter

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Quote from: ssw4919 on July 14, 2017, 04:38:16 PM
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Quote from: Baph al Mana. on July 14, 2017, 03:38:09 PM
and yea Bobby wasn't shit and still isnt shit.

Pretty much.
They can continue to act like he was the Justin Timberlake of his time all they want to.


Meaning what?  Because he outsold Justin, too.


Justin had one best-selling album of the year (2013) and that was... 2x platinum.   :helloimangie:

Girl *NSYNC has albums that outsold NE entire discography put together

Pls stop  :plzstop:

Justin first 2 albums both sold 10 mill + which is more than don't be cruel  :dead:

Keep clinging to that 1 album. You don't know what the meaning of a superstar or consecutive success is.  :ATLcameo:

Could've sworn you said "JT of his generation," implying solo success, not comparing group success.   
:damselindistress:



Justin ain't never sold ten million.  Not even seven million.


Justin debut and sophomore both sold 10 mill +

Lol at not even seven  :kii: get your numbers together Gyal.
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What Rihanna album is 5x platinum?
GGGB :woohoo:

Wow.  It only sold like 2.8-3 million.  But I guess with streams it got to 5x plat?

I forgot her label went through and started counting streams to increase her plaques in 2016. 

It's kind of hard to discuss pure sales albums vs. albums that have an extra 2 million from streaming.
Blah blah blah
Im not here to argue what u feel is valid vs invalid so u can attempt to discredit a bitch.  Im only here stating what's what.  U asked what album is 5x platinum and that's GGGB. U have the answer to your question. If u have anymore questions maybe I'll help u out but until then BYE! :kii:

Why so hostile, babe?

I was just wondering.  You ok?
Im not hostile at all. U asked and i answered. We're not discussing what u feel about numbers and streams, its all pretty irrelevant tbh. "What rihanna album is 5x platinum"
GGGB, dassit




The fact remains that Rihanna is 5x platinum
And that's all that matters. Any other comments, concerns or discrepancies u have can be forwarded to billboard and RIAA
This is my pass to say WHATEVER tf I wanna say about the mess she releases so I don't wanna hear SHIT! Baby mama is a mess of a song btw





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Quote from: ssw4919 on July 14, 2017, 04:41:11 PM
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Quote from: Sl? on July 14, 2017, 02:20:34 PM
ITS not like bobby was a fucking catch.

But the way Madonna fucked every damn body. #ThatPussy4Everybody #CommunityPumpum
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Back then Bobby brown couldve definitely been seen as a catch

:X I never saw it for him.

Whitney could've done a billion times better.
People feel the same way about beyonce. These women arent concerned with who we see them with

At least jay was at the top of his game / genre.

Bobby was never popping like that. Whitney literally married down.

Isn't his debut close to diamond :everythingok:

Anyone Whitney would've married would've been a downgrade :dead:

A king, a billionaire a sultan an international movie star a globally loved athlete.  Someone semi on her level  :howfestive:


Oh, so no musicians?  Interesting.   :rudone:

Well fag

George Michael clearly wanted to try her wigs on and not fuck her, same for Elton, she was too old and the wrong gender for Michael and Bruce Springsteen was already married.

When did I ever say someone on her level was going to be a singer?
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What Rihanna album is 5x platinum?
GGGB :woohoo:

Wow.  It only sold like 2.8-3 million.  But I guess with streams it got to 5x plat?

I forgot her label went through and started counting streams to increase her plaques in 2016. 

It's kind of hard to discuss pure sales albums vs. albums that have an extra 2 million from streaming.
Blah blah blah
Im not here to argue what u feel is valid vs invalid so u can attempt to discredit a bitch.  Im only here stating what's what.  U asked what album is 5x platinum and that's GGGB. U have the answer to your question. If u have anymore questions maybe I'll help u out but until then BYE! :kii:

Why so hostile, babe?

I was just wondering.  You ok?
Im not hostile at all. U asked and i answered. We're not discussing what u feel about numbers and streams, its all pretty irrelevant tbh. "What rihanna album is 5x platinum"
GGGB, dassit




The fact remains that Rihanna is 5x platinum
And that's all that matters. Any other comments, concerns or discrepancies u have can be forwarded to billboard and RIAA


This was a sales discussion.  But I see you sticking to the rivers and the streams that you're used to.  Whatever row row rows your boat!


Jon

Madge is so disrespected on here. :( Then again she was always polarizing so I guess its nothing new. 


ssw4919

Where was he selling seven?  Not in these here United States of America, he wasn't.  Usher sold that, and maybe a handful of others in that era.  Diamond albums were RARE after like 2002.

So yeah, JT had the #1 album in 2013 at 2.5 million.  Bobby did it in a much more competitive market in 1989 with 3 times that amount.   Strange comparison.

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Bobby was never popping like that.

Don't Be Cruel was the best-selling album of 1989. 

Seven times plat, Grammy Awards, huge international tour, awards show performances humping the stage to seduce Whitney.  He was kinda IT.

He really was the King of R&B for awhile.

Why are you saying 7 x plat like it's supposed to mean something?

All whitneys albums up to that point were selling 20 mill + worldwide.

Lol at 1 hit album making you king of rnb.


Seven-million in the US.  I'm not talking about worldwide because both Whit and Bobby were Americans.

You ain't talking worldwide cuz you can't.  :plzstop:
Whitney was a global superstar. A level reached by few. Your chitlin and local celebrations are of no amusement to me.
Keep clinging to 1989 in the US while Whitney has 15 years of albums that sold more and did it worldwide.


But we're not talking discographies.

*You're not

And it's because you have no leg to stand on.  :plzstop:

Money! 1989! Rnb group! Billboard! Grammy!

The he'll does any of that have to do with being a GLOBAL SUPERstar  :kii:


"Never poppin" was disproven with facts.


Do US sales mean nothing

Not when talking about a global superstar like Whitney. Who sold just as much across the border as she did at home.

N dead at not knowing sales. I know them very few overseas certificates don't even add up to a mill ...it's called basic math.
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Quote from: ssw4919 on July 14, 2017, 04:52:17 PM
Where was he selling seven?  Not in these here United States of America

In the United States of the world. That's what global superstars do you know?? sell around the globe

But a local 1989 to you too
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sawayama

Quote from: Jonovan on July 14, 2017, 04:51:51 PM
Madge is so disrespected on here. :( Then again she was always polarizing so I guess its nothing new.

since when  :uhh:

ssw4919

Basic math with no facts.  :welllol:

Where exactly was he performing overseas for three years then, if there was no market?


Whitney was a Jersey girl.  They were musical peers in the 80's.  Janet, Madonna, Eddie Murphy, Mike Tyson, all of those celebrities were around each other, went to the same parties and award shows, slept together, and were making millions.  Bryson Tiller was a ridiculous reach, and Madonna is a jealous skank.

Vonc2002

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What Rihanna album is 5x platinum?
GGGB :woohoo:

Wow.  It only sold like 2.8-3 million.  But I guess with streams it got to 5x plat?

I forgot her label went through and started counting streams to increase her plaques in 2016. 

It's kind of hard to discuss pure sales albums vs. albums that have an extra 2 million from streaming.
Blah blah blah
Im not here to argue what u feel is valid vs invalid so u can attempt to discredit a bitch.  Im only here stating what's what.  U asked what album is 5x platinum and that's GGGB. U have the answer to your question. If u have anymore questions maybe I'll help u out but until then BYE! :kii:

Why so hostile, babe?

I was just wondering.  You ok?
Im not hostile at all. U asked and i answered. We're not discussing what u feel about numbers and streams, its all pretty irrelevant tbh. "What rihanna album is 5x platinum"
GGGB, dassit




The fact remains that Rihanna is 5x platinum
And that's all that matters. Any other comments, concerns or discrepancies u have can be forwarded to billboard and RIAA


This was a sales discussion. 


Actually it wasn't.  I didn't break down numbers that bobby had sold. I said he has a 7x platinum certified album and that's true.  A beyonce fan was in here discrediting that and i said beyonce doesn't have that, which is also true. So how can u discredit sumn that your main bitch hasnt even achieved? That's the discussion in here. U and that other fool came in talkn about rihanna which was COMPLETELY irrelevant.  I wasnt trying to discredit someone's accomplishments. U and this other nigga came in here trying to squeeze your way into the conversation and didn't contribute to what we were discussing at all. Its actually quite annoying tbh BUT i answered your original question anyway. Im not turning this into a discussion about whether u feel streams are valid ways to certify albums. That's not the discussion in here. U can surely make that thread and go discuss it in there tho
This is my pass to say WHATEVER tf I wanna say about the mess she releases so I don't wanna hear SHIT! Baby mama is a mess of a song btw





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XXX.

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What Rihanna album is 5x platinum?
GGGB :woohoo:

Wow.  It only sold like 2.8-3 million.  But I guess with streams it got to 5x plat?

I forgot her label went through and started counting streams to increase her plaques in 2016. 

It's kind of hard to discuss pure sales albums vs. albums that have an extra 2 million from streaming.
Blah blah blah
Im not here to argue what u feel is valid vs invalid so u can attempt to discredit a bitch.  Im only here stating what's what.  U asked what album is 5x platinum and that's GGGB. U have the answer to your question. If u have anymore questions maybe I'll help u out but until then BYE! :kii:

Why so hostile, babe?

I was just wondering.  You ok?
Im not hostile at all. U asked and i answered. We're not discussing what u feel about numbers and streams, its all pretty irrelevant tbh. "What rihanna album is 5x platinum"
GGGB, dassit




The fact remains that Rihanna is 5x platinum
And that's all that matters. Any other comments, concerns or discrepancies u have can be forwarded to billboard and RIAA


This was a sales discussion. 


Actually it wasn't.  I didn't break down numbers that bobby had sold. I said he has a 7x platinum certified album and that's true.  A beyonce fan was in here discrediting that and i said beyonce doesn't have that, which is also true. So how can u discredit sumn that your main bitch hasnt even achieved? That's the discussion in here. U and that other fool came in talkn about rihanna which was COMPLETELY irrelevant.  I wasnt trying to discredit someone's accomplishments. U and this other nigga came in here trying to squeeze your way into the conversation and didn't contribute to what we were discussing at all. Its actually quite annoying tbh BUT i answered your original question anyway. Im not turning this into a discussion about whether u feel streams are valid ways to certify albums. That's not the discussion in here. U can surely make that thread and go discuss it in there tho

Oh wow.

Boy, first of all, you are taking this way too seriously.  But sorry for annoying you!  Didn't know it was that deep.  Second of all, I didn't talk about anything COMPLETELY irrelevant.  You made a statement that Rihanna was 5x platinum.  I simply asked which album, because I was shocked to know she had a 5x platinum plaque.  You're in your feelings, because I made note that the other 2 million was from streams, because she only sold around 3 million.  I don't think I was trying to "squeeze" into any conversation.  I posted what I wanted just like you do when you want to when you insert yourself in conversations where no one was talking to you.

But let me squeeze my way out of it.  Because I'm not going to get all serious about Good Girl Gone Bad and Rihanna.


ssw4919

Everything I said had facts.  And I didn't speak on what can't be verified, like Bobby's worldwide numbers.