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Quote from: GUCCI. on July 14, 2017, 05:07:42 PMQuote from: Vonc2002 on July 14, 2017, 05:02:23 PMQuote from: GUCCI. on July 14, 2017, 04:51:50 PMQuote from: Vonc2002 on July 14, 2017, 04:47:58 PMQuote from: GUCCI. on July 14, 2017, 04:45:42 PMQuote from: Vonc2002 on July 14, 2017, 04:42:51 PMQuote from: GUCCI. on July 14, 2017, 04:38:38 PMQuote from: Vonc2002 on July 14, 2017, 04:37:50 PMQuote from: GUCCI. on July 14, 2017, 04:32:47 PMQuote from: Kaeli. on July 14, 2017, 04:29:17 PMQuote from: GUCCI. on July 14, 2017, 04:28:05 PMWhat Rihanna album is 5x platinum?GGGB Wow. It only sold like 2.8-3 million. But I guess with streams it got to 5x plat?I forgot her label went through and started counting streams to increase her plaques in 2016. It's kind of hard to discuss pure sales albums vs. albums that have an extra 2 million from streaming.Blah blah blahIm not here to argue what u feel is valid vs invalid so u can attempt to discredit a bitch. Im only here stating what's what. U asked what album is 5x platinum and that's GGGB. U have the answer to your question. If u have anymore questions maybe I'll help u out but until then BYE! Why so hostile, babe?I was just wondering. You ok?Im not hostile at all. U asked and i answered. We're not discussing what u feel about numbers and streams, its all pretty irrelevant tbh. "What rihanna album is 5x platinum"GGGB, dassit The fact remains that Rihanna is 5x platinumAnd that's all that matters. Any other comments, concerns or discrepancies u have can be forwarded to billboard and RIAAThis was a sales discussion. Actually it wasn't. I didn't break down numbers that bobby had sold. I said he has a 7x platinum certified album and that's true. A beyonce fan was in here discrediting that and i said beyonce doesn't have that, which is also true. So how can u discredit sumn that your main bitch hasnt even achieved? That's the discussion in here. U and that other fool came in talkn about rihanna which was COMPLETELY irrelevant. I wasnt trying to discredit someone's accomplishments. U and this other nigga came in here trying to squeeze your way into the conversation and didn't contribute to what we were discussing at all. Its actually quite annoying tbh BUT i answered your original question anyway. Im not turning this into a discussion about whether u feel streams are valid ways to certify albums. That's not the discussion in here. U can surely make that thread and go discuss it in there thoOh wow. You made a statement that Rihanna was 5x platinum. I simply asked which album, because I was shocked to know she had a 5x platinum plaque.
Quote from: Vonc2002 on July 14, 2017, 05:02:23 PMQuote from: GUCCI. on July 14, 2017, 04:51:50 PMQuote from: Vonc2002 on July 14, 2017, 04:47:58 PMQuote from: GUCCI. on July 14, 2017, 04:45:42 PMQuote from: Vonc2002 on July 14, 2017, 04:42:51 PMQuote from: GUCCI. on July 14, 2017, 04:38:38 PMQuote from: Vonc2002 on July 14, 2017, 04:37:50 PMQuote from: GUCCI. on July 14, 2017, 04:32:47 PMQuote from: Kaeli. on July 14, 2017, 04:29:17 PMQuote from: GUCCI. on July 14, 2017, 04:28:05 PMWhat Rihanna album is 5x platinum?GGGB Wow. It only sold like 2.8-3 million. But I guess with streams it got to 5x plat?I forgot her label went through and started counting streams to increase her plaques in 2016. It's kind of hard to discuss pure sales albums vs. albums that have an extra 2 million from streaming.Blah blah blahIm not here to argue what u feel is valid vs invalid so u can attempt to discredit a bitch. Im only here stating what's what. U asked what album is 5x platinum and that's GGGB. U have the answer to your question. If u have anymore questions maybe I'll help u out but until then BYE! Why so hostile, babe?I was just wondering. You ok?Im not hostile at all. U asked and i answered. We're not discussing what u feel about numbers and streams, its all pretty irrelevant tbh. "What rihanna album is 5x platinum"GGGB, dassit The fact remains that Rihanna is 5x platinumAnd that's all that matters. Any other comments, concerns or discrepancies u have can be forwarded to billboard and RIAAThis was a sales discussion. Actually it wasn't. I didn't break down numbers that bobby had sold. I said he has a 7x platinum certified album and that's true. A beyonce fan was in here discrediting that and i said beyonce doesn't have that, which is also true. So how can u discredit sumn that your main bitch hasnt even achieved? That's the discussion in here. U and that other fool came in talkn about rihanna which was COMPLETELY irrelevant. I wasnt trying to discredit someone's accomplishments. U and this other nigga came in here trying to squeeze your way into the conversation and didn't contribute to what we were discussing at all. Its actually quite annoying tbh BUT i answered your original question anyway. Im not turning this into a discussion about whether u feel streams are valid ways to certify albums. That's not the discussion in here. U can surely make that thread and go discuss it in there tho
Quote from: GUCCI. on July 14, 2017, 04:51:50 PMQuote from: Vonc2002 on July 14, 2017, 04:47:58 PMQuote from: GUCCI. on July 14, 2017, 04:45:42 PMQuote from: Vonc2002 on July 14, 2017, 04:42:51 PMQuote from: GUCCI. on July 14, 2017, 04:38:38 PMQuote from: Vonc2002 on July 14, 2017, 04:37:50 PMQuote from: GUCCI. on July 14, 2017, 04:32:47 PMQuote from: Kaeli. on July 14, 2017, 04:29:17 PMQuote from: GUCCI. on July 14, 2017, 04:28:05 PMWhat Rihanna album is 5x platinum?GGGB Wow. It only sold like 2.8-3 million. But I guess with streams it got to 5x plat?I forgot her label went through and started counting streams to increase her plaques in 2016. It's kind of hard to discuss pure sales albums vs. albums that have an extra 2 million from streaming.Blah blah blahIm not here to argue what u feel is valid vs invalid so u can attempt to discredit a bitch. Im only here stating what's what. U asked what album is 5x platinum and that's GGGB. U have the answer to your question. If u have anymore questions maybe I'll help u out but until then BYE! Why so hostile, babe?I was just wondering. You ok?Im not hostile at all. U asked and i answered. We're not discussing what u feel about numbers and streams, its all pretty irrelevant tbh. "What rihanna album is 5x platinum"GGGB, dassit The fact remains that Rihanna is 5x platinumAnd that's all that matters. Any other comments, concerns or discrepancies u have can be forwarded to billboard and RIAAThis was a sales discussion.
Quote from: Vonc2002 on July 14, 2017, 04:47:58 PMQuote from: GUCCI. on July 14, 2017, 04:45:42 PMQuote from: Vonc2002 on July 14, 2017, 04:42:51 PMQuote from: GUCCI. on July 14, 2017, 04:38:38 PMQuote from: Vonc2002 on July 14, 2017, 04:37:50 PMQuote from: GUCCI. on July 14, 2017, 04:32:47 PMQuote from: Kaeli. on July 14, 2017, 04:29:17 PMQuote from: GUCCI. on July 14, 2017, 04:28:05 PMWhat Rihanna album is 5x platinum?GGGB Wow. It only sold like 2.8-3 million. But I guess with streams it got to 5x plat?I forgot her label went through and started counting streams to increase her plaques in 2016. It's kind of hard to discuss pure sales albums vs. albums that have an extra 2 million from streaming.Blah blah blahIm not here to argue what u feel is valid vs invalid so u can attempt to discredit a bitch. Im only here stating what's what. U asked what album is 5x platinum and that's GGGB. U have the answer to your question. If u have anymore questions maybe I'll help u out but until then BYE! Why so hostile, babe?I was just wondering. You ok?Im not hostile at all. U asked and i answered. We're not discussing what u feel about numbers and streams, its all pretty irrelevant tbh. "What rihanna album is 5x platinum"GGGB, dassit The fact remains that Rihanna is 5x platinumAnd that's all that matters. Any other comments, concerns or discrepancies u have can be forwarded to billboard and RIAA
Quote from: GUCCI. on July 14, 2017, 04:45:42 PMQuote from: Vonc2002 on July 14, 2017, 04:42:51 PMQuote from: GUCCI. on July 14, 2017, 04:38:38 PMQuote from: Vonc2002 on July 14, 2017, 04:37:50 PMQuote from: GUCCI. on July 14, 2017, 04:32:47 PMQuote from: Kaeli. on July 14, 2017, 04:29:17 PMQuote from: GUCCI. on July 14, 2017, 04:28:05 PMWhat Rihanna album is 5x platinum?GGGB Wow. It only sold like 2.8-3 million. But I guess with streams it got to 5x plat?I forgot her label went through and started counting streams to increase her plaques in 2016. It's kind of hard to discuss pure sales albums vs. albums that have an extra 2 million from streaming.Blah blah blahIm not here to argue what u feel is valid vs invalid so u can attempt to discredit a bitch. Im only here stating what's what. U asked what album is 5x platinum and that's GGGB. U have the answer to your question. If u have anymore questions maybe I'll help u out but until then BYE! Why so hostile, babe?I was just wondering. You ok?Im not hostile at all. U asked and i answered. We're not discussing what u feel about numbers and streams, its all pretty irrelevant tbh. "What rihanna album is 5x platinum"GGGB, dassit The fact remains that Rihanna is 5x platinum
Quote from: Vonc2002 on July 14, 2017, 04:42:51 PMQuote from: GUCCI. on July 14, 2017, 04:38:38 PMQuote from: Vonc2002 on July 14, 2017, 04:37:50 PMQuote from: GUCCI. on July 14, 2017, 04:32:47 PMQuote from: Kaeli. on July 14, 2017, 04:29:17 PMQuote from: GUCCI. on July 14, 2017, 04:28:05 PMWhat Rihanna album is 5x platinum?GGGB Wow. It only sold like 2.8-3 million. But I guess with streams it got to 5x plat?I forgot her label went through and started counting streams to increase her plaques in 2016. It's kind of hard to discuss pure sales albums vs. albums that have an extra 2 million from streaming.Blah blah blahIm not here to argue what u feel is valid vs invalid so u can attempt to discredit a bitch. Im only here stating what's what. U asked what album is 5x platinum and that's GGGB. U have the answer to your question. If u have anymore questions maybe I'll help u out but until then BYE! Why so hostile, babe?I was just wondering. You ok?Im not hostile at all. U asked and i answered. We're not discussing what u feel about numbers and streams, its all pretty irrelevant tbh. "What rihanna album is 5x platinum"GGGB, dassit
Quote from: GUCCI. on July 14, 2017, 04:38:38 PMQuote from: Vonc2002 on July 14, 2017, 04:37:50 PMQuote from: GUCCI. on July 14, 2017, 04:32:47 PMQuote from: Kaeli. on July 14, 2017, 04:29:17 PMQuote from: GUCCI. on July 14, 2017, 04:28:05 PMWhat Rihanna album is 5x platinum?GGGB Wow. It only sold like 2.8-3 million. But I guess with streams it got to 5x plat?I forgot her label went through and started counting streams to increase her plaques in 2016. It's kind of hard to discuss pure sales albums vs. albums that have an extra 2 million from streaming.Blah blah blahIm not here to argue what u feel is valid vs invalid so u can attempt to discredit a bitch. Im only here stating what's what. U asked what album is 5x platinum and that's GGGB. U have the answer to your question. If u have anymore questions maybe I'll help u out but until then BYE! Why so hostile, babe?I was just wondering. You ok?
Quote from: Vonc2002 on July 14, 2017, 04:37:50 PMQuote from: GUCCI. on July 14, 2017, 04:32:47 PMQuote from: Kaeli. on July 14, 2017, 04:29:17 PMQuote from: GUCCI. on July 14, 2017, 04:28:05 PMWhat Rihanna album is 5x platinum?GGGB Wow. It only sold like 2.8-3 million. But I guess with streams it got to 5x plat?I forgot her label went through and started counting streams to increase her plaques in 2016. It's kind of hard to discuss pure sales albums vs. albums that have an extra 2 million from streaming.Blah blah blahIm not here to argue what u feel is valid vs invalid so u can attempt to discredit a bitch. Im only here stating what's what. U asked what album is 5x platinum and that's GGGB. U have the answer to your question. If u have anymore questions maybe I'll help u out but until then BYE!
Quote from: GUCCI. on July 14, 2017, 04:32:47 PMQuote from: Kaeli. on July 14, 2017, 04:29:17 PMQuote from: GUCCI. on July 14, 2017, 04:28:05 PMWhat Rihanna album is 5x platinum?GGGB Wow. It only sold like 2.8-3 million. But I guess with streams it got to 5x plat?I forgot her label went through and started counting streams to increase her plaques in 2016. It's kind of hard to discuss pure sales albums vs. albums that have an extra 2 million from streaming.
Quote from: Kaeli. on July 14, 2017, 04:29:17 PMQuote from: GUCCI. on July 14, 2017, 04:28:05 PMWhat Rihanna album is 5x platinum?GGGB
Quote from: GUCCI. on July 14, 2017, 04:28:05 PMWhat Rihanna album is 5x platinum?
Quote from: Vonc2002 on July 14, 2017, 05:18:03 PMQuote from: GUCCI. on July 14, 2017, 05:07:42 PMQuote from: Vonc2002 on July 14, 2017, 05:02:23 PMQuote from: GUCCI. on July 14, 2017, 04:51:50 PMQuote from: Vonc2002 on July 14, 2017, 04:47:58 PMQuote from: GUCCI. on July 14, 2017, 04:45:42 PMQuote from: Vonc2002 on July 14, 2017, 04:42:51 PMQuote from: GUCCI. on July 14, 2017, 04:38:38 PMQuote from: Vonc2002 on July 14, 2017, 04:37:50 PMQuote from: GUCCI. on July 14, 2017, 04:32:47 PMQuote from: Kaeli. on July 14, 2017, 04:29:17 PMQuote from: GUCCI. on July 14, 2017, 04:28:05 PMWhat Rihanna album is 5x platinum?GGGB Wow. It only sold like 2.8-3 million. But I guess with streams it got to 5x plat?I forgot her label went through and started counting streams to increase her plaques in 2016. It's kind of hard to discuss pure sales albums vs. albums that have an extra 2 million from streaming.Blah blah blahIm not here to argue what u feel is valid vs invalid so u can attempt to discredit a bitch. Im only here stating what's what. U asked what album is 5x platinum and that's GGGB. U have the answer to your question. If u have anymore questions maybe I'll help u out but until then BYE! Why so hostile, babe?I was just wondering. You ok?Im not hostile at all. U asked and i answered. We're not discussing what u feel about numbers and streams, its all pretty irrelevant tbh. "What rihanna album is 5x platinum"GGGB, dassit The fact remains that Rihanna is 5x platinumAnd that's all that matters. Any other comments, concerns or discrepancies u have can be forwarded to billboard and RIAAThis was a sales discussion. Actually it wasn't. I didn't break down numbers that bobby had sold. I said he has a 7x platinum certified album and that's true. A beyonce fan was in here discrediting that and i said beyonce doesn't have that, which is also true. So how can u discredit sumn that your main bitch hasnt even achieved? That's the discussion in here. U and that other fool came in talkn about rihanna which was COMPLETELY irrelevant. I wasnt trying to discredit someone's accomplishments. U and this other nigga came in here trying to squeeze your way into the conversation and didn't contribute to what we were discussing at all. Its actually quite annoying tbh BUT i answered your original question anyway. Im not turning this into a discussion about whether u feel streams are valid ways to certify albums. That's not the discussion in here. U can surely make that thread and go discuss it in there thoOh wow. You made a statement that Rihanna was 5x platinum. I simply asked which album, because I was shocked to know she had a 5x platinum plaque. This was the only part that mattered and where our exchange in here shouldve ended. I honestly don't care about beyonce fans talking about streams or WHATEVER because it's expected. They discredit in an attempt to put one over the other, SURPRISE! Billlboard and RIAA kinda said what's what so im not moved by beyonce fans opinions on what should and shouldnt be. It annoyed me because u came in here ready to shift what the convo was and missed the whole point of what i was talking about. Im not in here discussing streams vs actual units. Were in here ATM talking about bobby brown being a "nobody" Everytime i say beyonce that doesnt mean im looking for one of ya'll to come up behind me with "RIHANNA"If u wanna discuss streams and their validity then make that thread. If i come in there, we can discuss it.
Quote from: JaySeeJay on July 14, 2017, 04:55:30 PMQuote from: Jonovan on July 14, 2017, 04:51:51 PMMadge is so disrespected on here. :( Then again she was always polarizing so I guess its nothing new. since when
Quote from: Jonovan on July 14, 2017, 04:51:51 PMMadge is so disrespected on here. :( Then again she was always polarizing so I guess its nothing new.
QuoteThe album was far more successful than Brown's debut, peaking at number one on the Billboard 200 album chart and spawning five top 10 Billboard Hot 100 singles, including Brown's only number one, "My Prerogative". It spent a total of six weeks on top of the Billboard 200 and was the best-selling album of 1989 in the United States. The album also reached the top five in the United Kingdom and Australia.
Quote"My Prerogative" also reached top ten positions in many countries, such as Ireland, New Zealand, the Netherlands, and the United Kingdom.
Quote"Every Little Step" is a 1989 single by American singer Bobby Brown, written by L.A. Reid and Kenneth "Babyface" Edmonds and released by MCA Records. Released as the fourth single on his second album Don't Be Cruel it reached number three on the Billboard Hot 100, number one on the Hot Black Singles chart, and number six on the UK Singles Chart in 1989.
Quote"On Our Own" is a song by Bobby Brown recorded in April 1989 and released the following month as a single from the Ghostbusters II soundtrack. It peaked at number one on the U.S. Billboard R&B chart for one week. It peaked at number two on the Billboard Hot 100 pop chart for three weeks, kept from the top spot by a combination of Prince's "Batdance" and Richard Marx's "Right Here Waiting".[2] It reached number four on the UK Singles Chart...Chart (1989) PeakpositionAustralia ARIA Charts 22German Singles 18New Zealand Singles 1Irish Singles 5UK Singles Chart 4Canadian Singles 3US Billboard Hot 100 2US Top R&B Singles 1US Hot Dance Music/Maxi-Singles Sales
QuoteBobby peaked at #2 on the US Billboard 200 album chart, and spawned two Top 10 Billboard Hot 100 singles: "Humpin' Around" (#3) and "Good Enough" (#7). The album also peaked at #1 on the Billboard R&B Albums chart and reached #2 in Australia.
Quote from: Jonovan on July 14, 2017, 05:29:45 PMQuote from: JaySeeJay on July 14, 2017, 04:55:30 PMQuote from: Jonovan on July 14, 2017, 04:51:51 PMMadge is so disrespected on here. :( Then again she was always polarizing so I guess its nothing new. since when when madge divided opinion? always
Quote from: JaySeeJay on July 14, 2017, 05:41:25 PMQuote from: Jonovan on July 14, 2017, 05:29:45 PMQuote from: JaySeeJay on July 14, 2017, 04:55:30 PMQuote from: Jonovan on July 14, 2017, 04:51:51 PMMadge is so disrespected on here. :( Then again she was always polarizing so I guess its nothing new. since when when madge divided opinion? always I was talking about her being disrespected on here
Quote from: Sl? on July 14, 2017, 02:33:56 PMQuote from: Vonc2002 on July 14, 2017, 02:30:40 PMQuote from: Sl? on July 14, 2017, 02:28:03 PMQuote from: Vonc2002 on July 14, 2017, 02:26:35 PMQuote from: Sl? on July 14, 2017, 02:23:13 PMQuote from: Vonc2002 on July 14, 2017, 02:22:04 PMQuote from: Sl? on July 14, 2017, 02:20:34 PMITS not like bobby was a fucking catch. But the way Madonna fucked every damn body. #ThatPussy4Everybody #CommunityPumpumfBack then Bobby brown couldve definitely been seen as a catch:X I never saw it for him. Whitney could've done a billion times better.People feel the same way about beyonce. These women arent concerned with who we see them withAt least jay was at the top of his game / genre. Bobby was never popping like that. Whitney literally married down.fBobby brown was definitely "popping" when he got with whitney Not and never on that global superstar level. That's like Rihanna marrying Bryson tiller. It's just not the same wave length.
Quote from: Vonc2002 on July 14, 2017, 02:30:40 PMQuote from: Sl? on July 14, 2017, 02:28:03 PMQuote from: Vonc2002 on July 14, 2017, 02:26:35 PMQuote from: Sl? on July 14, 2017, 02:23:13 PMQuote from: Vonc2002 on July 14, 2017, 02:22:04 PMQuote from: Sl? on July 14, 2017, 02:20:34 PMITS not like bobby was a fucking catch. But the way Madonna fucked every damn body. #ThatPussy4Everybody #CommunityPumpumfBack then Bobby brown couldve definitely been seen as a catch:X I never saw it for him. Whitney could've done a billion times better.People feel the same way about beyonce. These women arent concerned with who we see them withAt least jay was at the top of his game / genre. Bobby was never popping like that. Whitney literally married down.fBobby brown was definitely "popping" when he got with whitney
Quote from: Sl? on July 14, 2017, 02:28:03 PMQuote from: Vonc2002 on July 14, 2017, 02:26:35 PMQuote from: Sl? on July 14, 2017, 02:23:13 PMQuote from: Vonc2002 on July 14, 2017, 02:22:04 PMQuote from: Sl? on July 14, 2017, 02:20:34 PMITS not like bobby was a fucking catch. But the way Madonna fucked every damn body. #ThatPussy4Everybody #CommunityPumpumfBack then Bobby brown couldve definitely been seen as a catch:X I never saw it for him. Whitney could've done a billion times better.People feel the same way about beyonce. These women arent concerned with who we see them withAt least jay was at the top of his game / genre. Bobby was never popping like that. Whitney literally married down.
Quote from: Vonc2002 on July 14, 2017, 02:26:35 PMQuote from: Sl? on July 14, 2017, 02:23:13 PMQuote from: Vonc2002 on July 14, 2017, 02:22:04 PMQuote from: Sl? on July 14, 2017, 02:20:34 PMITS not like bobby was a fucking catch. But the way Madonna fucked every damn body. #ThatPussy4Everybody #CommunityPumpumfBack then Bobby brown couldve definitely been seen as a catch:X I never saw it for him. Whitney could've done a billion times better.People feel the same way about beyonce. These women arent concerned with who we see them with
Quote from: Sl? on July 14, 2017, 02:23:13 PMQuote from: Vonc2002 on July 14, 2017, 02:22:04 PMQuote from: Sl? on July 14, 2017, 02:20:34 PMITS not like bobby was a fucking catch. But the way Madonna fucked every damn body. #ThatPussy4Everybody #CommunityPumpumfBack then Bobby brown couldve definitely been seen as a catch:X I never saw it for him. Whitney could've done a billion times better.
Quote from: Vonc2002 on July 14, 2017, 02:22:04 PMQuote from: Sl? on July 14, 2017, 02:20:34 PMITS not like bobby was a fucking catch. But the way Madonna fucked every damn body. #ThatPussy4Everybody #CommunityPumpumfBack then Bobby brown couldve definitely been seen as a catch
Quote from: Sl? on July 14, 2017, 02:20:34 PMITS not like bobby was a fucking catch. But the way Madonna fucked every damn body. #ThatPussy4Everybody #CommunityPumpum
Quote from: Sl? on July 14, 2017, 02:40:03 PMQuote from: REMY on July 14, 2017, 02:35:56 PMCeline can fucking sing but girls like Grace Jones, or Bj?rk just embody cutting edge creative passion. M.I.A and for instance Iggy same thing. Iggy might have a better flow, but M.i.a's music really has depth.NOBody would even ever compare Celine to grace or bjork. N dead at those being you're go to names. You're just as fucking pretentious as Madonna. If you really were into bjork instead of name dropping like Dawn does you'd know how much Madonna ripped of bjork in the early / mid 90s before bowing down and asking for her help. Or when she made that whole album literally whispering on top of Joi. Giving exactly what joi gave on her own album. But oh original! Out the box! Envelope pusher!
Quote from: REMY on July 14, 2017, 02:35:56 PMCeline can fucking sing but girls like Grace Jones, or Bj?rk just embody cutting edge creative passion. M.I.A and for instance Iggy same thing. Iggy might have a better flow, but M.i.a's music really has depth.
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Quote from: Bre's Husband on July 14, 2017, 07:21:48 PMQuote from: JaySeeJay on July 14, 2017, 05:41:25 PMQuote from: Jonovan on July 14, 2017, 05:29:45 PMQuote from: JaySeeJay on July 14, 2017, 04:55:30 PMQuote from: Jonovan on July 14, 2017, 04:51:51 PMMadge is so disrespected on here. :( Then again she was always polarizing so I guess its nothing new. since when when madge divided opinion? always I was talking about her being disrespected on hereffff she's read when it suits some people Lol