Spelman College To Admit Transgender Women In Fall 2018

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Kurama

Quote from: 1RIG on September 07, 2017, 07:47:13 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on September 07, 2017, 07:26:08 PM
Quote from: 1RIG on September 07, 2017, 07:21:13 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on September 07, 2017, 07:19:27 PM
no shade, but I wonder how biological women feel about being damn near forced into acknowledging trans women as equals and letting them into their spaces.
:blessed:

Honestly, there are much worse things. I couldn't imagine fuming or even being annoyed at this

They have bigger battles to fight IMO

It just seems kind of intrusive at times. Anyone can waltz in and claim space at the table with women, have their voice heard above everyone else's and demand that their need be embraced at the expense of biological women be met all because they "identify as a woman". And if anyone dares to question anything about it, they're hit with the transphobe label.

I'm not here for it, king

ssssddd I see this side as well, but it's really just about inclusion. I just don't see this really being a hindrance or inconvenience to women overall, other than "ok, now y'all have to share this space and bathroom". I could be dead wrong and missing the big picture though, I admit that. 

I just think women have greater obstacles right now, and the white man continues to be the main culprit
:overit:

This. The most salient point for me with any social issue.

I definitely have ambivalent feelings about the trans women vs bio women thing.

I just have to be mindful that I am a man, I should not tell a woman how she should feel about a male born person transitioning and now sort of co-opting her lifelong experience. Plus it just perpetuates the patriarchal standards that are already a factor in the oppression of women.

I really wish trans men were as prevalent as trans women are, just to see how men would handle these convos and practices .

b7

Quote from: Kurama on September 07, 2017, 07:27:33 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on September 07, 2017, 07:26:08 PM
Quote from: 1RIG on September 07, 2017, 07:21:13 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on September 07, 2017, 07:19:27 PM
no shade, but I wonder how biological women feel about being damn near forced into acknowledging trans women as equals and letting them into their spaces.
:blessed:

Honestly, there are much worse things. I couldn't imagine fuming or even being annoyed at this

They have bigger battles to fight IMO

It just seems kind of intrusive at times. Anyone can waltz in and claim space at the table with women, have their voice heard above everyone else's and demand that their need be embraced at the expense of biological women be met all because they "identify as a woman". And if anyone dares to question anything about it, they're hit with the transphobe label.

I'm not here for it, king


Legit point. I read a good ass article this white dyke wrote expressing the same things.
i wanna read it

Kurama

Quote from: Tinker Quinn on September 07, 2017, 07:59:09 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on September 07, 2017, 07:57:31 PM
Quote from: Kurama on September 07, 2017, 07:54:14 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on September 07, 2017, 07:29:28 PM
Quote from: Kurama on September 07, 2017, 07:27:33 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on September 07, 2017, 07:26:08 PM
Quote from: 1RIG on September 07, 2017, 07:21:13 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on September 07, 2017, 07:19:27 PM
no shade, but I wonder how biological women feel about being damn near forced into acknowledging trans women as equals and letting them into their spaces.
:blessed:

Honestly, there are much worse things. I couldn't imagine fuming or even being annoyed at this

They have bigger battles to fight IMO

It just seems kind of intrusive at times. Anyone can waltz in and claim space at the table with women, have their voice heard above everyone else's and demand that their need be embraced at the expense of biological women be met all because they "identify as a woman". And if anyone dares to question anything about it, they're hit with the transphobe label.

I'm not here for it, king


Legit point. I read a good ass article this white dyke wrote expressing the same things.

Link me

https://medium.com/athena-talks/i-am-not-a-cis-woman-i-am-a-woman-and-that-matters-da2248223e2a

QuoteI am angry that as a woman who has constantly had to be careful of my language and behavior around men to ensure my own safety, I am now being forced to police my language even more, around and for trans women who had entirely different experiences and anatomy.

well shake the table then queen!


i 'gree wit this
its tha basically wat chimanda was sayin' b'fore
they jus have diff' esperiences!

and I agree'd with Charizard. My friends took issue with that but to be completely honest. The erasure of that whole "Trans" piece is harmful imo. You're not honoring your entire journey to get to a place to be a trans individual. You're pretty much condensing your unique experience for the sake of taxonomy. Yes, you're a woman now but honor the entire process and the journey to get to that place.

It erases the experience and tells other young folks who struggle with their identities that it isn't important imo.

Kurama

Quote from: 1RIG on September 07, 2017, 08:01:01 PM
Quote from: Kurama on September 07, 2017, 07:27:33 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on September 07, 2017, 07:26:08 PM
Quote from: 1RIG on September 07, 2017, 07:21:13 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on September 07, 2017, 07:19:27 PM
no shade, but I wonder how biological women feel about being damn near forced into acknowledging trans women as equals and letting them into their spaces.
:blessed:

Honestly, there are much worse things. I couldn't imagine fuming or even being annoyed at this

They have bigger battles to fight IMO

It just seems kind of intrusive at times. Anyone can waltz in and claim space at the table with women, have their voice heard above everyone else's and demand that their need be embraced at the expense of biological women be met all because they "identify as a woman". And if anyone dares to question anything about it, they're hit with the transphobe label.

I'm not here for it, king


Legit point. I read a good ass article this white dyke wrote expressing the same things.
i wanna read it

https://medium.com/athena-talks/i-am-not-a-cis-woman-i-am-a-woman-and-that-matters-da2248223e2a

Kurama

Wow, love this discussion. Intelligent, thought-provoking, understanding selves.


The transphobes from earlier could never lolz
:jackiessales:

BAPHOMET.




b7

Quote from: Kurama on September 07, 2017, 08:03:30 PM
Quote from: 1RIG on September 07, 2017, 08:01:01 PM
Quote from: Kurama on September 07, 2017, 07:27:33 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on September 07, 2017, 07:26:08 PM
Quote from: 1RIG on September 07, 2017, 07:21:13 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on September 07, 2017, 07:19:27 PM
no shade, but I wonder how biological women feel about being damn near forced into acknowledging trans women as equals and letting them into their spaces.
:blessed:

Honestly, there are much worse things. I couldn't imagine fuming or even being annoyed at this

They have bigger battles to fight IMO

It just seems kind of intrusive at times. Anyone can waltz in and claim space at the table with women, have their voice heard above everyone else's and demand that their need be embraced at the expense of biological women be met all because they "identify as a woman". And if anyone dares to question anything about it, they're hit with the transphobe label.

I'm not here for it, king


Legit point. I read a good ass article this white dyke wrote expressing the same things.
i wanna read it

https://medium.com/athena-talks/i-am-not-a-cis-woman-i-am-a-woman-and-that-matters-da2248223e2a
thanks king

:ohwow:

Eternal Bell



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That's awesome ! Im sure some of the blacks will be up in arms though !

BAPHOMET.

September 07, 2017, 08:32:17 PM #56 Last Edit: September 07, 2017, 08:32:30 PM by Baph al Mana.
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oh Nick.


Buy The Stars✨

It's true luv and you know you it the Christian blacks who don't believe in homos and Trans will be upset


Kaeli.