Who ruled the 2000s, Ashanti or Ciara? (Flop showdown)

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RAY7

Quote from: Genesis on October 13, 2015, 01:51:28 PM
Quote from: ........ on October 13, 2015, 01:45:59 PM
Ashanti>Goodies
Chapter II>Evolution
Concrete Rose>Fantasy Ride
Declaration>Basic Instinct
Collectables>Ciara
Braveheart>Jackie

Shan wins every time
Ashanti & goodies sold the same, just like chapter 2 & evolution

And alot of those albums you comparing are in different time periods.

Thats why ciara outsold braveheart that same year
Ashanti sold 3.5 Million, Goodies sold 2.7 Million
Chapter II & Evolution maybe are the same.
but plz Ashanti debuted in 2002, Ci in 2004
it was the SAME period. Usher did TEN Million in 04, so save the bull about album sales
and Braveheart came in 2014, Ciara in 2013 so it wasn't the same year

Million.

Rolling Stone just called Ciara the Princess of R&B.

Ashit can't even get a title like that from JET MAG anymore.

Million.

Quote from: ........ on October 13, 2015, 01:56:01 PM
Quote from: Genesis on October 13, 2015, 01:51:28 PM
Quote from: ........ on October 13, 2015, 01:45:59 PM
Ashanti>Goodies
Chapter II>Evolution
Concrete Rose>Fantasy Ride
Declaration>Basic Instinct
Collectables>Ciara
Braveheart>Jackie

Shan wins every time
Ashanti & goodies sold the same, just like chapter 2 & evolution

And alot of those albums you comparing are in different time periods.

Thats why ciara outsold braveheart that same year
Ashanti sold 3.5 Million, Goodies sold 2.7 Million
Chapter II & Evolution maybe are the same.
but plz Ashanti debuted in 2002, Ci in 2004
it was the SAME period. Usher did TEN Million in 04, so save the bull about album sales
and Braveheart came in 2014, Ciara in 2013 so it wasn't the same year
Ashanti didn't debut in 2002, and nobody said albums didn't sell in 2004.

You're a fucking idiot.

RAY7

Quote from: SUPREME on October 13, 2015, 01:55:28 PM
Quote from: ........ on October 13, 2015, 01:53:08 PM
Quote from: SUPREME on October 13, 2015, 01:49:19 PM
Quote from: ........ on October 13, 2015, 01:48:14 PM
Quote from: LiiVE on October 13, 2015, 01:44:49 PM
most of yall faves perform at the venues ciara is playing in. brandy included so i dont see the read. Touring around the country is good no matter how u slice and dice it.
its not a "read" its just not an accomplishment to put her over Ashanti
or anyone else
but somehow selling .3 copies more than someone is?

:kii:
Yes, are they "recording artist" or not?
their main job is to sell albums, and Ashanti is doing better at that
Ci can be a socialite all she wants. its not helping her career
:kii: :kii: :kii: :kii:
the magazine covers, specials, 2nd tour legs, Photoshoots and nominations are definitely apart of her career and helping

:flamebroiled:
they are not helping
its supposed to be promotion for her albums
which are not selling as much as Ashanti's
:kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii:

novmbrchild

Quote from: M ? I on October 13, 2015, 01:55:52 PM
That makes absolutely no kinda sense. If you're "relevant" a bitch should be buying your mess, correct? All the relevant girls are able to sell anything.
f no jlo is relevant and cant sell an album for her life

SUPREME

That part of why i admire about Ciara

She's been flopping since 09 but has been touring for 75% of that time and constantly doing things that'll make her pockets fatter

:ohwow:

RAY7

Quote from: Million. on October 13, 2015, 01:57:13 PM
Quote from: ........ on October 13, 2015, 01:56:01 PM
Quote from: Genesis on October 13, 2015, 01:51:28 PM
Quote from: ........ on October 13, 2015, 01:45:59 PM
Ashanti>Goodies
Chapter II>Evolution
Concrete Rose>Fantasy Ride
Declaration>Basic Instinct
Collectables>Ciara
Braveheart>Jackie

Shan wins every time
Ashanti & goodies sold the same, just like chapter 2 & evolution

And alot of those albums you comparing are in different time periods.

Thats why ciara outsold braveheart that same year
Ashanti sold 3.5 Million, Goodies sold 2.7 Million
Chapter II & Evolution maybe are the same.
but plz Ashanti debuted in 2002, Ci in 2004
it was the SAME period. Usher did TEN Million in 04, so save the bull about album sales
and Braveheart came in 2014, Ciara in 2013 so it wasn't the same year
Ashanti didn't debut in 2002, and nobody said albums didn't sell in 2004.

You're a fucking idiot.
no dumb bitch YOU are an idiot
Ashanti debuted APRIL 2ND 2002, and Gen tried to say "different time period"
I didnt even put ALBUMS DONT SELL in my post
shut the fuck up

Lazarus

Quote from: Genesis on October 13, 2015, 01:51:28 PM
Quote from: ........ on October 13, 2015, 01:45:59 PM
Ashanti>Goodies
Chapter II>Evolution
Concrete Rose>Fantasy Ride
Declaration>Basic Instinct
Collectables>Ciara
Braveheart>Jackie

Shan wins every time
Ashanti & goodies sold the same, just like chapter 2 & evolution

And alot of those albums you comparing are in different time periods.

Thats why ciara outsold braveheart that same year

Ashanti 3,600,000
Goodies 2,784,000

Chapter II 1,500,000
Evolution 1,300,000

Million.

After Bey and Rih...the next black young Pop/R&B girl is Ci.

Period.

jumpman

Quote from: LiiVE on October 13, 2015, 01:40:33 PM
Quote from: SUPREME on October 13, 2015, 01:38:10 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on October 13, 2015, 01:35:45 PM
Quote from: SUPREME on October 13, 2015, 01:29:00 PM
Ciaras celebrity is far beyonds Ashanti

well, she's in a pr stunt of a relationship with an athlete and her baby daddy is one of the biggest rappers owt rn

pret' sure shans would be able to say she's more relevant if she was in the same predicament
rihanna changed her look to emulate kelis and various other artist and used her domestic violence issue to propel her celebrity

but does any of that change what i said?
g,,,,fff right i mean  even in 2015 rihanna is still talking about chris to garner attention
!!!!

the bitch released her album cover and a statement about Chris on the same day for a reason :jackiessales:

"y'all member when he beat my ass? oh! & buy Anti, guys!"

vvvv; rih ol flop ass

SUPREME

Quote from: ........ on October 13, 2015, 01:57:38 PM
Quote from: SUPREME on October 13, 2015, 01:55:28 PM
Quote from: ........ on October 13, 2015, 01:53:08 PM
Quote from: SUPREME on October 13, 2015, 01:49:19 PM
Quote from: ........ on October 13, 2015, 01:48:14 PM
Quote from: LiiVE on October 13, 2015, 01:44:49 PM
most of yall faves perform at the venues ciara is playing in. brandy included so i dont see the read. Touring around the country is good no matter how u slice and dice it.
its not a "read" its just not an accomplishment to put her over Ashanti
or anyone else
but somehow selling .3 copies more than someone is?

:kii:
Yes, are they "recording artist" or not?
their main job is to sell albums, and Ashanti is doing better at that
Ci can be a socialite all she wants. its not helping her career
:kii: :kii: :kii: :kii:
the magazine covers, specials, 2nd tour legs, Photoshoots and nominations are definitely apart of her career and helping

:flamebroiled:
they are not helping
its supposed to be promotion for her albums
which are not selling as much as Ashanti's
:kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii:
Ciara gave up trying to sell an album long ago.

∧ ∨ ∩ ∪

Quote from: LiiVE on October 13, 2015, 01:57:38 PM
Quote from: M ? I on October 13, 2015, 01:55:52 PM
That makes absolutely no kinda sense. If you're "relevant" a bitch should be buying your mess, correct? All the relevant girls are able to sell anything.
f no jlo is relevant and cant sell an album for her life

n

But Queen has a successful fashion line, accessories, perfume lines and films. So again, I'm not understanding.

jumpman

Quote from: LiiVE on October 13, 2015, 01:44:49 PM
most of yall faves perform at the venues ciara is playing in. brandy included so i dont see the read. Touring around the country is good no matter how u slice and dice it.
& Ashitty ain't even touring in the country :letsmessfag:

SUPREME

Quote from: M ? I on October 13, 2015, 02:00:03 PM
Quote from: LiiVE on October 13, 2015, 01:57:38 PM
Quote from: M ? I on October 13, 2015, 01:55:52 PM
That makes absolutely no kinda sense. If you're "relevant" a bitch should be buying your mess, correct? All the relevant girls are able to sell anything.
f no jlo is relevant and cant sell an album for her life

n

But Queen has a successful fashion line, accessories, perfume lines and films. So again, I'm not understanding.
!!

So why not an album

Get your contradictions together

Million.

Quote from: SUPREME on October 13, 2015, 02:00:56 PM
Quote from: M ? I on October 13, 2015, 02:00:03 PM
Quote from: LiiVE on October 13, 2015, 01:57:38 PM
Quote from: M ? I on October 13, 2015, 01:55:52 PM
That makes absolutely no kinda sense. If you're "relevant" a bitch should be buying your mess, correct? All the relevant girls are able to sell anything.
f no jlo is relevant and cant sell an album for her life

n

But Queen has a successful fashion line, accessories, perfume lines and films. So again, I'm not understanding.
!!

So why not an album

Get your contradictions together
fffff