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GRAND

Quote from: OwnIt on February 24, 2018, 07:43:33 PM
Quote from: OwnIt on January 31, 2018, 05:11:30 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on January 31, 2018, 04:52:58 PM
Are we seriously still going on about this :uhh:
well, you surely ran your ass in here to be poster #1 on a topic you're tired of :guys:

First post before ever reading the damn contract. Clocked and backed into a wall
read him queens

I stand with Monique now lolz

fedswatchin


Vonc2002

Quote from: OwnIt on February 24, 2018, 07:43:33 PM
Quote from: OwnIt on January 31, 2018, 05:11:30 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on January 31, 2018, 04:52:58 PM
Are we seriously still going on about this :uhh:
well, you surely ran your ass in here to be poster #1 on a topic you're tired of :guys:

First post before ever reading the damn contract. Clocked and backed into a wall
:dead: :dead: :dead:
Is this is it?
Yea, BYE!
This is my pass to say WHATEVER tf I wanna say about the mess she releases so I don't wanna hear SHIT! Baby mama is a mess of a song btw





fedswatchin

Vonc be goin thru so many loops and plotholes to work out his illogical ass posts :dead:

If it ain't concise, it ain't right

Monique's worth more

GRAND

Quote from: OwnIt on February 24, 2018, 07:47:21 PM
Vonc be goin thru so many loops and plotholes to work out his illogical ass posts :dead:

If it ain't concise, it ain't right

Monique's worth more
!!

Give queen her check

Btw vonc has AIDS everyone

ya rock muh world.

Quote from: Young on February 24, 2018, 07:40:22 PM
Quote from: i stay hai. on February 24, 2018, 07:38:24 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on February 24, 2018, 07:34:44 PM
Quote from: i stay hai. on February 24, 2018, 07:30:14 PM
If some of you really think that , there's no point in me wasting time debating. Because you see her on Chris Rock and Dave Chapelle's level, so it makes sense that you'd be confused as to why she isn't paid more.

I would recommend doing some research on Dave and Chris's careers and compare it to Mo'nique's.

I enjoyed Soul Plane just as much as the next person but I can't say she's on that level with them.
sdddddddddddddddddd
Hair Salon was really nice but yea, issa no
The fact that people answered "yes" to that question I asked....

This isn't about opinions. These are numbers we're talking when it comes to areas being sold out, ticket sales, viewership on previous comedy specials.

Numbers talk, everything else walks. If someone in here can prove to me that Mo'nique has historically pulled the same numbers as Dave or Chris, I'll happily wave my white flag. And even put it in my sig for a month.

Sis it?s not about the being directly on par with them or their success

You don?t see the difference in pay being extremely unfair ?

500k vs Millions for the other 3


Yawl won?t do Ms Parker this way
Well that's what you answered "yes" to my love.

I asked if gender was the only thing separating her from Dave and Chris and a couple of you answered "yes". But I think we know that's not true.

As far as the 500K offer, considering all the stipulations, it was worth her negotiating. Not saying it was 100% fair.

But Mo'nique said herself that the fact that she's been blackballed could have had something to do with the offer as well. It could have been Netflix knowing that she doesn't have many other options right now because of HER history of interpersonal challenges with others in the industry.




Young

Quote from: Vonc2002 on February 24, 2018, 07:44:49 PM
Quote from: Young on February 24, 2018, 07:38:24 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on February 24, 2018, 07:32:42 PM
Quote from: Young on February 24, 2018, 07:30:47 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on February 24, 2018, 07:26:18 PM
Quote from: Young on February 24, 2018, 07:07:39 PM
Monique should have gotten way more than .5M

How do u warrant her getting more than 500k? She's not getting that NOW so how should Netflix be offering her more when they are already offering her more than she's getting?  Do y'all know anything about business?  Why tf would they shell out money when they don't have too? Netflix wasn't in a bidding war with HBO or Showtime to try to come out victorious. She should get more based on WHAT exactly? :dead:

Because of the stipulations around the contract

She?s pulling more and is worth more
Go read the contract :dead:
And how is she worth more when no deal she has on the table even rivals this one from Netflix. She counting others money and that's why she felt like she deserved more

Do you not honestly think her being blackballed has anything to do with that ?

WHICH by the way , was a fucked up thing as well?
WTF DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH NETFLIX!?!?! :dead:
If someone has a shit reputation in the entertainment industry they don't work and they aren't being thrown money.   it's happened to people MUCH bigger than Monique. Katharine higel or w/e tf her name is scrounges for work for the same fckn reason. People don't like her. Netflix doesn't have to pay Monique millions because her name is shit and there aren't other offers out there PLUS her work and resume don't warrant the check.  Them giving her an opportunity was a stretch anyway because she's notoriously difficult and all she did was prove that right.  Like gtfoh

You?re dumb as a bag of rocks if you don?t believe that number she was given is also due to her being blackballed

She hasn?t gotten a lot of work ! We all know this ?these big name entities know how to play the numbers game with acts who arent getting handed deals left and right

Let?s not act brand fckn NEW hun


Vonc2002

Quote from: i stay hai. on February 24, 2018, 07:48:31 PM
Quote from: Young on February 24, 2018, 07:40:22 PM
Quote from: i stay hai. on February 24, 2018, 07:38:24 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on February 24, 2018, 07:34:44 PM
Quote from: i stay hai. on February 24, 2018, 07:30:14 PM
If some of you really think that , there's no point in me wasting time debating. Because you see her on Chris Rock and Dave Chapelle's level, so it makes sense that you'd be confused as to why she isn't paid more.

I would recommend doing some research on Dave and Chris's careers and compare it to Mo'nique's.

I enjoyed Soul Plane just as much as the next person but I can't say she's on that level with them.
sdddddddddddddddddd
Hair Salon was really nice but yea, issa no
The fact that people answered "yes" to that question I asked....

This isn't about opinions. These are numbers we're talking when it comes to areas being sold out, ticket sales, viewership on previous comedy specials.

Numbers talk, everything else walks. If someone in here can prove to me that Mo'nique has historically pulled the same numbers as Dave or Chris, I'll happily wave my white flag. And even put it in my sig for a month.

Sis it?s not about the being directly on par with them or their success

You don?t see the difference in pay being extremely unfair ?

500k vs Millions for the other 3


Yawl won?t do Ms Parker this way
Well that's what you answered "yes" to my love.

I asked if gender was the only thing separating her from Dave and Chris and a couple of you answered "yes". But I think we know that's not true.

As far as the 500K offer, considering all the stipulations, it was worth her negotiating. Not saying it was 100% fair.

But Mo'nique said herself that the fact that she's been blackballed could have had something to do with the offer as well. It could have been Netflix knowing that she doesn't have many other options right now because of HER history of interpersonal challenges with others in the industry.
THANK YOU! Why tf would u offer someone tons of money to work when the offer are scarce? That's bad business.  Monique's money issues are her own fault
This is my pass to say WHATEVER tf I wanna say about the mess she releases so I don't wanna hear SHIT! Baby mama is a mess of a song btw





ya rock muh world.

And as we're sitting here caping for Mo'nique, I hope we keep our sis Tiffany Haddish in mind.

She's just signed a new deal with Netflix (you know, the company Mo'nique is moving to have canceled?) And is getting her feet wet in the industry.

Something tells me Tiffany is going to be huge.

So while we're on the topic of supporting Black women, let's remember all of them. No shade


Young

Like I said her being blackballed is most definitely a factor? (some just don?t care to dissect into the reasons WHY however)

But Her being a black female is the MAIN factor because it?s all intertwined as to why she is where she is now and was offered what she was offered.


Vonc2002

Quote from: Young on February 24, 2018, 07:49:54 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on February 24, 2018, 07:44:49 PM
Quote from: Young on February 24, 2018, 07:38:24 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on February 24, 2018, 07:32:42 PM
Quote from: Young on February 24, 2018, 07:30:47 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on February 24, 2018, 07:26:18 PM
Quote from: Young on February 24, 2018, 07:07:39 PM
Monique should have gotten way more than .5M

How do u warrant her getting more than 500k? She's not getting that NOW so how should Netflix be offering her more when they are already offering her more than she's getting?  Do y'all know anything about business?  Why tf would they shell out money when they don't have too? Netflix wasn't in a bidding war with HBO or Showtime to try to come out victorious. She should get more based on WHAT exactly? :dead:

Because of the stipulations around the contract

She?s pulling more and is worth more
Go read the contract :dead:
And how is she worth more when no deal she has on the table even rivals this one from Netflix. She counting others money and that's why she felt like she deserved more

Do you not honestly think her being blackballed has anything to do with that ?

WHICH by the way , was a fucked up thing as well?
WTF DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH NETFLIX!?!?! :dead:
If someone has a shit reputation in the entertainment industry they don't work and they aren't being thrown money.   it's happened to people MUCH bigger than Monique. Katharine higel or w/e tf her name is scrounges for work for the same fckn reason. People don't like her. Netflix doesn't have to pay Monique millions because her name is shit and there aren't other offers out there PLUS her work and resume don't warrant the check.  Them giving her an opportunity was a stretch anyway because she's notoriously difficult and all she did was prove that right.  Like gtfoh

You?re dumb as a bag of rocks if you don?t believe that number she was given is also due to her being blackballed

Are u reading wtf I'm saying? :dead:
Boy get yo reading comprehension up. I didn't say it wasn't. I said wtf does that have to do with Netflix? Should they offer her more money out of the kindness of their hearts? Please catch a clue, young
This is my pass to say WHATEVER tf I wanna say about the mess she releases so I don't wanna hear SHIT! Baby mama is a mess of a song btw





fedswatchin

No one is arguing that she deserves $13 million. Just more than $500k

Which is essentially what I see everyone agreeing on :dead:

Genesis

Quote from: Young on February 24, 2018, 07:52:35 PM
Like I said her being blackballed is most definitely a factor? (some just don?t care to dissect into the reasons WHY however)

But Her being a black female is the MAIN factor because it?s all intertwined as to why she is where she is now and was offered what she was offered.
Wanda sykes, tiffany haddish, viola davis?

What more proof do they need? Blackballed isnt an excuse.

Young

At the end of the day it all boils down to :

Monique isnt gonna let the system run her .
Anyone who knows the industry knows you have to abide by certain rules and refrain from pissing those in power off ? or you?ll be cut off .

?nique don?t take no mess and isn?t gonna stand for being treated any kind of way .
This is what has hurt her .

But it doesn?t negate the TRUTH of the matter that many acts like Monique and Viola have spoken about .


fedswatchin

February 24, 2018, 07:55:58 PM #164 Last Edit: February 24, 2018, 07:56:58 PM by OwnIt
Quote from: i stay hai. on February 24, 2018, 07:52:21 PM
And as we're sitting here caping for Mo'nique, I hope we keep our sis Tiffany Haddish in mind.

She's just signed a new deal with Netflix (you know, the company Mo'nique is moving to have canceled?) And is getting her feet wet in the industry.

Something tells me Tiffany is going to be huge.

So while we're on the topic of supporting Black women, let's remember all of them. No shade
I'll wait for her to make me laugh before I show outrageous support

I'm not supporting every black bitch or negro that gets acknowledgement from Hollywood, a seat at the house slave kitchen table, when I'm not interested in their work