Mo'nique's problem: "She didn't transition from talent to producer".

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ya rock muh world.

Lew it's not hard to understand.

Let me break it down for you.

Comparing Mo'nique to someone like Dave or Chris is like comparing an artist who just sings (and does nothing else) to an artist who sings, produces, and writes their own music . The more you have your own hands in the background, the more ownership you have, the more money you get, and the more money you're WORTH.

Mo'nique never had her hands in the mix when it came to HELMING her biggest comedic projects. The Parkers, Phat Girlz, none of it. She was the puppet not the puppeteer. Get it?

Make sense?


Lane Bryant Jumpsuit

Quote from: p.i.m.p. on March 04, 2018, 11:09:55 PM
Lew it's not hard to understand.

Let me break it down for you.

Comparing Mo'nique to someone like Dave or Chris is like comparing an artist who just sings (and does nothing else) to an artist who sings, produces, and writes their own music . The more you have your own hands in the background, the more ownership you have, the more money you get, and the more money you're WORTH.

Mo'nique never had her hands in the mix when it came to HELMING her biggest comedic projects. The Parkers, Phat Girlz, none of it. She was the puppet not the puppeteer. Get it?

Make sense?

Okay I get it and I disagree
whitney and celine are very bankable not touching shit with that writing producing mess

and if the project is successfull and your name is attached it does not matter who did what

of course if she is not getting that back end money her worth will not be the same


amyshumer is only worth 3 million more than monique
and has very limited production credit

but then you say she sold out this or that

so Im not here for the criterion to keep changing




Lewie D Im Caramel Bitches Ion Wanna hear Im Actin
Different

ya rock muh world.

Whitney! Celine!

Historically, Dave and Chris Rock have had more behind the scenes involvement in their projects than Monique has. They've written, they've produced. And they've made more money. They're worth more money.

You're super stubborn so I'm not even gonna bother continuing this debate with you. Go look at the huge GAP between the reported net worth of Chris Rock and Mo'nique and hopefully that'll make it make sense for you.



Lane Bryant Jumpsuit

Quote from: p.i.m.p. on March 04, 2018, 11:25:55 PM
Whitney! Celine!

Historically, Dave and Chris Rock have had more behind the scenes involvement in their projects than Monique has. They've written, they've produced. And they've made more money. They're worth more money.

You're super stubborn so I'm not even gonna bother continuing this debate with you. Go look at the huge GAP between the reported of net worth of Chris Rock and Mo'nique and hopefully that'll make it make sense for you.

No I understand the reason why their worth more
and what im saying is

based on networth alone
the offer is still not correct



Lewie D Im Caramel Bitches Ion Wanna hear Im Actin
Different

jtwoeleven

Whitney and Celine may not have written much, but they DO have executive producer credits on their albums. That weighs heavier than someone who just contributed ?vocals?.

ya rock muh world.

Quote from: TheNextLew on March 04, 2018, 11:27:22 PM
Quote from: p.i.m.p. on March 04, 2018, 11:25:55 PM
Whitney! Celine!

Historically, Dave and Chris Rock have had more behind the scenes involvement in their projects than Monique has. They've written, they've produced. And they've made more money. They're worth more money.

You're super stubborn so I'm not even gonna bother continuing this debate with you. Go look at the huge GAP between the reported of net worth of Chris Rock and Mo'nique and hopefully that'll make it make sense for you.

No I understand the reason why their worth more
and what im saying is

based on networth alone
the offer is still not correct
Net worth speaks to what level someone is in the industry they're in.

How much money they've made as a BRAND speaks to what level they're on.

Mo'nique's brand is not on the same shelf as Chris and Dave's.

If someone were to say "Cassie's on the same level as Beyonce", the first thing we'd look at are the NUMBERS. Not how well Cassie can sing, not how pretty she is. What do the numbers fucking say. Period.

Make sense?


Vonc2002

Quote from: p.i.m.p. on March 04, 2018, 11:25:55 PM
Whitney! Celine!

Historically, Dave and Chris Rock have had more behind the scenes involvement in their projects than Monique has. They've written, they've produced. And they've made more money. They're worth more money.

You're super stubborn so I'm not even gonna bother continuing this debate with you. Go look at the huge GAP between the reported net worth of Chris Rock and Mo'nique and hopefully that'll make it make sense for you.
!!!!!!!!!
And bringing up Whitney and Celine is dumb anyway because they clearly have more  going on than u know. Whitney didn't write a ton of songs, so tf what.   :dead:
Whitney wasn't in the business and  still a puppet 20 yrs later. She actually had a production company and was the reason Cinderella was brought to TV. she CHOSE Brandy to star in that movie. Monique isn't out here making those kinda moves. She still out here HOPING someone calls her for a movie, not creating, writing, producing, and starring in her own shit so that whole point was really moot :dead:
This is my pass to say WHATEVER tf I wanna say about the mess she releases so I don't wanna hear SHIT! Baby mama is a mess of a song btw





Vonc2002

Quote from: jtwoeleven on March 04, 2018, 11:28:48 PM
Whitney and Celine may not have written much, but they DO have executive producer credits on their albums. That weighs heavier than someone who just contributed ?vocals?.
EXACTLY! Writing songs isn't the only way to be involved with creating and crafting your album.  What a majorly dumb point  :dead:
This is my pass to say WHATEVER tf I wanna say about the mess she releases so I don't wanna hear SHIT! Baby mama is a mess of a song btw





ya rock muh world.

Quote from: Vonc2002 on March 04, 2018, 11:31:56 PM
Quote from: p.i.m.p. on March 04, 2018, 11:25:55 PM
Whitney! Celine!

Historically, Dave and Chris Rock have had more behind the scenes involvement in their projects than Monique has. They've written, they've produced. And they've made more money. They're worth more money.

You're super stubborn so I'm not even gonna bother continuing this debate with you. Go look at the huge GAP between the reported net worth of Chris Rock and Mo'nique and hopefully that'll make it make sense for you.
!!!!!!!!!
And bringing up Whitney and Celine is dumb anyway because they clearly have more  going on than u know. Whitney didn't write a ton of songs, so tf what.   :dead:
Whitney wasn't in the business and  still a puppet 20 yrs later. She actually had a production company and was the reason Cinderella was brought to TV. she CHOSE Brandy to star in that movie. Monique isn't out here making those kinda moves. She still out here HOPING someone calls her for a movie, not creating, writing, producing, and starring in her own shit so that whole point was really moot :dead:
I didn't see the point of bringing up Whit and Celine either. :plzstop:

Monique damn sure is no one's Whitney or Celine of the film industry


Gekkouga

Quote from: jtwoeleven on March 04, 2018, 11:28:48 PM
Whitney and Celine may not have written much, but they DO have executive producer credits on their albums. That weighs heavier than someone who just contributed ?vocals?.
,


Vonc2002

Quote from: p.i.m.p. on March 04, 2018, 11:35:43 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on March 04, 2018, 11:31:56 PM
Quote from: p.i.m.p. on March 04, 2018, 11:25:55 PM
Whitney! Celine!

Historically, Dave and Chris Rock have had more behind the scenes involvement in their projects than Monique has. They've written, they've produced. And they've made more money. They're worth more money.

You're super stubborn so I'm not even gonna bother continuing this debate with you. Go look at the huge GAP between the reported net worth of Chris Rock and Mo'nique and hopefully that'll make it make sense for you.
!!!!!!!!!
And bringing up Whitney and Celine is dumb anyway because they clearly have more  going on than u know. Whitney didn't write a ton of songs, so tf what.   :dead:
Whitney wasn't in the business and  still a puppet 20 yrs later. She actually had a production company and was the reason Cinderella was brought to TV. she CHOSE Brandy to star in that movie. Monique isn't out here making those kinda moves. She still out here HOPING someone calls her for a movie, not creating, writing, producing, and starring in her own shit so that whole point was really moot :dead:
I didn't see the point of bringing up Whit and Celine either. :plzstop:

Monique damn sure is no one's Whitney or Celine of the film industry
RIGHT! because even if all they did have to bring to the table was their talent, they are of a whole other caliber talent wise. Monique is no one's stellar actress. So she's not extraordinarily talented and she's not business savvy at all, this is the crux of her problems.  Bringing up people who eclipse her in talent, relevance, creativity, and business sense won't change these facts :dead:
This is my pass to say WHATEVER tf I wanna say about the mess she releases so I don't wanna hear SHIT! Baby mama is a mess of a song btw





ya rock muh world.

Quote from: Vonc2002 on March 04, 2018, 11:39:45 PM
Quote from: p.i.m.p. on March 04, 2018, 11:35:43 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on March 04, 2018, 11:31:56 PM
Quote from: p.i.m.p. on March 04, 2018, 11:25:55 PM
Whitney! Celine!

Historically, Dave and Chris Rock have had more behind the scenes involvement in their projects than Monique has. They've written, they've produced. And they've made more money. They're worth more money.

You're super stubborn so I'm not even gonna bother continuing this debate with you. Go look at the huge GAP between the reported net worth of Chris Rock and Mo'nique and hopefully that'll make it make sense for you.
!!!!!!!!!
And bringing up Whitney and Celine is dumb anyway because they clearly have more  going on than u know. Whitney didn't write a ton of songs, so tf what.   :dead:
Whitney wasn't in the business and  still a puppet 20 yrs later. She actually had a production company and was the reason Cinderella was brought to TV. she CHOSE Brandy to star in that movie. Monique isn't out here making those kinda moves. She still out here HOPING someone calls her for a movie, not creating, writing, producing, and starring in her own shit so that whole point was really moot :dead:
I didn't see the point of bringing up Whit and Celine either. :plzstop:

Monique damn sure is no one's Whitney or Celine of the film industry
RIGHT! because even if all they did have to bring to the table was their talent, they are of a whole other caliber talent wise. Monique is no one's stellar actress. So she's not extraordinarily talented and she's not business savvy at all, this is the crux of her problems.  Bringing up people who eclipse her in talent, relevance, creativity, and business sense won't change these facts :dead:
:ATLcameo:

Bottom line. Mo'nique really should have had her hands in more stuff.

I still can't believe she didn't produce/write some of Phat Girlz. Is she not able to write a comedic script or something? The movie was a shit fest anyway so she might as well tried it out a bit


fedswatchin

The gorls that can't make their points without using caps locks and exclamation points

Even while they're quoting someone they agree with vvccvvvc

In jesus name, I pray for ya lol

Rxxf

This Mo'Nique era is in it for the long haul, it seems
Kii
BRANDY