It's crazy how Rihanna doesn't write, produce, or dance..

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RAY7

for every Santana
there's Stevie Wonder, Prince, Michael etc that revere Bey as an artist/musician
and who Ive never heard say anything about Rih or Adele as a musicians
horrible comparison

Vonc2002

Quote from: Wild Bitch on March 11, 2018, 04:27:04 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on March 11, 2018, 04:19:26 PM
Quote from: Wild Bitch on March 11, 2018, 04:15:11 PM
And as for Santana

QuoteMy intent was to congratulate Adele on her amazing night at the Grammys. My comment about Beyonce was regretfully taken out of context. I have the utmost respect for her as an artist and a person. She deserves all the accolades that come her way. I wish Beyonce and her family all the best.?

So yeah even her haters respect her
Yea, we're not taking backtracking comments to be nice :dead:
He said what he said and only apologized after her fans spazzed. I don't even have to argue that Beyonce is as respected musically as the Adeles of the world. they've shitted on her each time they've got the opportunity.  :kii:

n

Beys is the most praised and respected artist in the industry out of the current girls

So this debate about Santana is pointless

Especially when he was misquoted

:plzstop:
How was he misquoted when he said what he said :dead:
The most praised and respected but Taylor and Adele best her at every turn. Y'all beys are a mess :kii:
Beyonce ain't nobodies ARTISTE and that bitch's image is key in her success. Anyone who doubts that is an idiot
This is my pass to say WHATEVER tf I wanna say about the mess she releases so I don't wanna hear SHIT! Baby mama is a mess of a song btw





LOONA.

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Beyonc?'s music might not be your cup of tea but people like Prince have spoken about her craft and skills as a musician so that can't really be denied.

And not Wendy Williams. She's basically tabloid in TV form. People watch her because she's messy, not because they believe her opinions on music hold any actual weight. And her audience usually boos or disagrees when she says something slick about Bey.     


LOONA.

Quote from: Vonc2002 on March 11, 2018, 04:30:08 PM
Quote from: Wild Bitch on March 11, 2018, 04:27:04 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on March 11, 2018, 04:19:26 PM
Quote from: Wild Bitch on March 11, 2018, 04:15:11 PM
And as for Santana

QuoteMy intent was to congratulate Adele on her amazing night at the Grammys. My comment about Beyonce was regretfully taken out of context. I have the utmost respect for her as an artist and a person. She deserves all the accolades that come her way. I wish Beyonce and her family all the best.?

So yeah even her haters respect her
Yea, we're not taking backtracking comments to be nice :dead:
He said what he said and only apologized after her fans spazzed. I don't even have to argue that Beyonce is as respected musically as the Adeles of the world. they've shitted on her each time they've got the opportunity.  :kii:

n

Beys is the most praised and respected artist in the industry out of the current girls

So this debate about Santana is pointless

Especially when he was misquoted

:plzstop:
How was he misquoted when he said what he said :dead:
The most praised and respected but Taylor and Adele best her at every turn. Y'all beys are a mess :kii:
Beyonce ain't nobodies ARTISTE and that bitch's image is key in her success. Anyone who doubts that is an idiot

What does being praise and respected have to with album sales?

Quincy Jones literally dragged the shit out Taylor. The point seems to be going over your head.     


RAY7

Quote from: Vonc2002 on March 11, 2018, 04:30:08 PM
Quote from: Wild Bitch on March 11, 2018, 04:27:04 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on March 11, 2018, 04:19:26 PM
Quote from: Wild Bitch on March 11, 2018, 04:15:11 PM
And as for Santana

QuoteMy intent was to congratulate Adele on her amazing night at the Grammys. My comment about Beyonce was regretfully taken out of context. I have the utmost respect for her as an artist and a person. She deserves all the accolades that come her way. I wish Beyonce and her family all the best.?

So yeah even her haters respect her
Yea, we're not taking backtracking comments to be nice :dead:
He said what he said and only apologized after her fans spazzed. I don't even have to argue that Beyonce is as respected musically as the Adeles of the world. they've shitted on her each time they've got the opportunity.  :kii:

n

Beys is the most praised and respected artist in the industry out of the current girls

So this debate about Santana is pointless

Especially when he was misquoted

:plzstop:
How was he misquoted when he said what he said :dead:
The most praised and respected but Taylor and Adele best her at every turn. Y'all beys are a mess :kii:
Beyonce ain't nobodies ARTISTE and that bitch's image is key in her success. Anyone who doubts that is an idiot
Taylor and Adele best her in accolades because they're white and we know this
c'mon son. Nobody is praising a damn TAYLOR SWIFT as an artist over Bey

LiiVE

Quote from: Andrais. on March 11, 2018, 04:26:01 PM
It'll be interesting to see where Rih's career goes from here. It's funny how her team set her up to be an artist who needed to stay hot and trendy by constantly pumping out radio candy material to keep people invested. As soon as they slightly deviated from that path she started to struggle. It started with the extended break and her coming back trying to transition into a more mature artist. All that cranking out #1s back to back is pretty much done. Touring power dwindled, and although she's never been an Adele or Taylor album selling artist Anti still struggled the most saleswise out of all her albums.

You have to be careful with how you present yourself as an artist because when you try to grow and mature it can backfire on you. Look at what happened to Gaga & Katy.

That's why I'm glad Bey set her career up the way she did. She had a plan outside of trying to constantly please radio.

Rih seems to be transitioning into a mogul so she'll probably take a step back from tossing out albums anyway.   

jkjjjjjjn but ummm

What artist stays at their peak for their entire career? Bey experienced a decline  when she deviated from her usual mess. I just think it?s unrealistic to think any artist will forever be on top.

Zabi.

Quote from: Vonc2002 on March 11, 2018, 04:30:08 PM
Quote from: Wild Bitch on March 11, 2018, 04:27:04 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on March 11, 2018, 04:19:26 PM
Quote from: Wild Bitch on March 11, 2018, 04:15:11 PM
And as for Santana

QuoteMy intent was to congratulate Adele on her amazing night at the Grammys. My comment about Beyonce was regretfully taken out of context. I have the utmost respect for her as an artist and a person. She deserves all the accolades that come her way. I wish Beyonce and her family all the best.?

So yeah even her haters respect her
Yea, we're not taking backtracking comments to be nice :dead:
He said what he said and only apologized after her fans spazzed. I don't even have to argue that Beyonce is as respected musically as the Adeles of the world. they've shitted on her each time they've got the opportunity.  :kii:

n

Beys is the most praised and respected artist in the industry out of the current girls

So this debate about Santana is pointless

Especially when he was misquoted

:plzstop:
How was he misquoted when he said what he said :dead:
The most praised and respected but Taylor and Adele best her at every turn. Y'all beys are a mess :kii:
Beyonce ain't nobodies ARTISTE and that bitch's image is key in her success. Anyone who doubts that is an idiot

Um... Are you ok?

🦚

Quote from: Andrais. on March 11, 2018, 04:30:20 PM
h

Beyonc?'s music might not be your cup of tea but people like Prince have spoken about her craft and skills as a musician so that can't really be denied.

And not Wendy Williams. She's basically tabloid in TV form. People watch her because she's messy, not because they believe her opinions on music hold any actual weight. And her audience usually boos or disagrees when she says something slick about Bey.     


I have yet to see anyone else of her peers get introduction videos with praise from the stevie?s Prince?s and barbra?s Just to name a few.
Hell wasnt adele crying on that Grammy stage for her idol. Isn?t destiny?s child the reason she got into music  :plzstop:
Wasn?t Taylor doing irreplaceable cover left, right and center when nobody outside of middle confederate flag America cared for.  :ATLcameo:

Bey mothered these hoes.
Hear 'em swarmin', right? (Zz) 🐝 🐝  is known to bite (Zz, zz)
——————///——————-
https://justiceforbreonna.org/

Vonc2002

Quote from: Andrais. on March 11, 2018, 04:32:01 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on March 11, 2018, 04:30:08 PM
Quote from: Wild Bitch on March 11, 2018, 04:27:04 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on March 11, 2018, 04:19:26 PM
Quote from: Wild Bitch on March 11, 2018, 04:15:11 PM
And as for Santana

QuoteMy intent was to congratulate Adele on her amazing night at the Grammys. My comment about Beyonce was regretfully taken out of context. I have the utmost respect for her as an artist and a person. She deserves all the accolades that come her way. I wish Beyonce and her family all the best.?

So yeah even her haters respect her
Yea, we're not taking backtracking comments to be nice :dead:
He said what he said and only apologized after her fans spazzed. I don't even have to argue that Beyonce is as respected musically as the Adeles of the world. they've shitted on her each time they've got the opportunity.  :kii:

n

Beys is the most praised and respected artist in the industry out of the current girls

So this debate about Santana is pointless

Especially when he was misquoted

:plzstop:
How was he misquoted when he said what he said :dead:
The most praised and respected but Taylor and Adele best her at every turn. Y'all beys are a mess :kii:
Beyonce ain't nobodies ARTISTE and that bitch's image is key in her success. Anyone who doubts that is an idiot

What does being praise and respected have to with album sales
Quote me saying anything about album sales. These are the girls that are more popular and winning awards over her. Both of these girls have won album of the yr......TWICE  :dead:
Fck album sales, eventho they  kill her there as well :plzstop:
Y'all be so delusional. I'm done with this convo, y'all can have it :kii:
This is my pass to say WHATEVER tf I wanna say about the mess she releases so I don't wanna hear SHIT! Baby mama is a mess of a song btw





CHOKE

Adele Taylor!

Why even bring them up when they both shit on Rih

:plzstop:



🦚

Lemonade is the most awarded era of all time.
More popular! But yet nobody is seeing her tour numbers.  :ATLcameo:
Hear 'em swarmin', right? (Zz) 🐝 🐝  is known to bite (Zz, zz)
——————///——————-
https://justiceforbreonna.org/

LOONA.

Quote from: november on March 11, 2018, 04:33:39 PM
Quote from: Andrais. on March 11, 2018, 04:26:01 PM
It'll be interesting to see where Rih's career goes from here. It's funny how her team set her up to be an artist who needed to stay hot and trendy by constantly pumping out radio candy material to keep people invested. As soon as they slightly deviated from that path she started to struggle. It started with the extended break and her coming back trying to transition into a more mature artist. All that cranking out #1s back to back is pretty much done. Touring power dwindled, and although she's never been an Adele or Taylor album selling artist Anti still struggled the most saleswise out of all her albums.

You have to be careful with how you present yourself as an artist because when you try to grow and mature it can backfire on you. Look at what happened to Gaga & Katy.

That's why I'm glad Bey set her career up the way she did. She had a plan outside of trying to constantly please radio.

Rih seems to be transitioning into a mogul so she'll probably take a step back from tossing out albums anyway.   

jkjjjjjjn but ummm

What artist stays at their peak for their entire career? Bey experienced a decline  when she deviated from her usual mess. I just think it?s unrealistic to think any artist will forever be on top.

g

Boy

I wasn't talking about maintaining a peak. I was talking about having a plan longterm past popping out radio hits. Beyonce never deviated from anything. She put out an R&B record when the genre was 90% dead commercially and EDM/Dance was the new wave so her album suffered as a result.

Despite that it's still a grammy winning record that's practically double platinum. Mahority of the singles are platinum and even RTW is practically one of her signature records now. People sing every word in stadiums and the song is associuated with so many movements.

Now where are all the gurs who were putting out EDM & Dance? How did that work out for them?

:letsmessfag:   


Treasure

Black artists rarely write their own lyrics in my opinion.

Dua Lipa, Kelly Clarkson, Faith Hill and Britney do though.

CHOKE

And the fact you have to bring up 2 privileged white bitches is a kiiii in itself

Both worship Bey BTW

:feelinmyself:

ya rock muh world.

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Love 'fas but if she managed to pull thru GODanna can as well. Easily.

Dead at this delusion. Bey has been here 21 years. Bey has reached the status where she never needs another hit again and can still sel out shows worldwide. The other girls can?t do it at the height of their careers in their prime years.
Beys impact reaches beyond music and fanshit.
Even beys songs who weren?t that big like Run The World (still platinum tho) go on to become cult classics. Can?t have a women?s day of women?s march without bey being front and cente as the reference point.


Let?s wait and see until there are some new younger girls truly popping before we can say that Rihanna will transition the same. So far nobody has come behind her.
GODanna will be fine. Each era, she always manages to release at least one song that becomes inescapable. And hits that #1

Yeah it's not all about #1's but it says a lot about her staying power. She's not a tour gor IMO. Because she's not that much of a performer. It actually makes sense.

Talk That Talk is a fucking bible and Loud is my mess from start to finish, but I wouldn't pay hundreds to see goddess shimmy across a stage somewhere. sdnsndsdnsdn

As an artist overall, she slays though.

That number 1 bullshit is for the birds.

Go check Stevie Wonder, Michael, Whitney, Madonna etc era?s and there number ones stopped quite early while they kept thriving.

Mariah and all her number ones ended up being a Vegas show girl.

Bey is in a whole other league and has outlived all her peers. The last 1 standing was Justin and he seems to be done now too.
'fas is the most legendary to me. But saying GODanna doesn't have another chance at huge success that she's seen before is really a reach.

When she decides to drop the weight, get back into model mode and slay the scene, the gorls will gag all over again. Trust.

I didn?t say anything about her chances.

Well the whole point of my post you first quoted was regarding her chances, love. Of pulling through at this point. I assumed that's what you were challenging. :shannonsmissing:

Well let?s skip the pleasantries and get straight to meat and potatoes.
You got quoted for bringing bey into this bullshit.
Gotta stop you right there.

I didn't introduce 'fas into this convo.
The post you quoted happened to come after what you see below. Thnx.

Quote from: Wild Bitch on March 11, 2018, 03:43:35 PM
Quote from: Kaeli. on March 11, 2018, 03:40:49 PM
Quote from: Wild Bitch on March 11, 2018, 03:38:20 PM
I guess

Am interested to see her transition into her 30s

So far it?s already not looking good

it's lookin pretty great, actually.

2 billion streams on apple music having ass self

People said the same thing about Bey during the 4 era and look at her now

Bey is the exception not the rule