Wale needs to have a damn seat

Started by HUGO, June 19, 2018, 06:32:18 AM

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Cartierline

Quote from: HUGO on June 19, 2018, 08:55:52 AM
Of course he didn?t but in his profession....

Kendrick, Wayne, Kanye, Future  Asap, Rick Ross, Meek...

:diddraispoot:


Drake has arguably achieved more mainstream success than all of these people.

#Mu7

Quote from: Cartier on June 19, 2018, 09:00:33 AM
Quote from: HUGO on June 19, 2018, 08:55:52 AM
Of course he didn?t but in his profession....

Kendrick, Wayne, Kanye, Future  Asap, Rick Ross, Meek...

:diddraispoot:


Drake has arguably achieved more mainstream success than all of these people.

This is 100 percent spot on. He gets more pop airplay and all of that. It's not really a lie what Wale is speaking about, but his issue is just multifactoral

Cartierline

June 19, 2018, 09:04:01 AM #17 Last Edit: June 19, 2018, 09:07:30 AM by Cartier
Shit, you can even argue that racial ambiguity played a huge part in Rihanna breaking out and becoming a worldwide star compared to her contemporaries that came out around the same time.

When you're BLACK black, there are definitely certain limits imposed on you in comparison to your racially ambiguous counterparts.

Kurama

Quote from: Cartier on June 19, 2018, 09:04:01 AM
Shit, you can even argue that racial ambiguity played a huge part in Rihanna breaking out and becoming a worldwide star compared to her compared to her contemporaries that came out around the same time.

When you're BLACK black, there are definitely certain limits imposed on you in comparison to your racially ambiguous counterparts.

Yeah

fresh

Quote from: Cartier on June 19, 2018, 09:04:01 AM
Shit, you can even argue that racial ambiguity played a huge part in Rihanna breaking out and becoming a worldwide star compared to her compared to her contemporaries that came out around the same time.

When you're BLACK black, there are definitely certain limits imposed on you in comparison to your racially ambiguous counterparts.

regardless of the profession.
it could be rap, acting, modeling, porn, or a McDonald's cashier

I'm not seeing how is point was missed here.  :uhh:

Nine

Quote from: Cartier on June 19, 2018, 09:00:33 AM
Quote from: HUGO on June 19, 2018, 08:55:52 AM
Of course he didn?t but in his profession....

Kendrick, Wayne, Kanye, Future  Asap, Rick Ross, Meek...

:diddraispoot:


Drake has arguably achieved more mainstream success than all of these people.
!!!!!

like...

fresh

look at Bruno Mars, he's not an excellent singer/dancer
but because he's racially ambiguous he's not considered an 'R&B' act.

he instantly was considered POP, and got played on all the pop AND r&b stations.
had he been black, it would have gone a complete different direction.

the black gur's like Whitney, Janet, Toni, even Ciara had to overcome many obstacles in order to cross over.
I don't think Rap is any different.

HUGO

June 19, 2018, 09:23:11 AM #22 Last Edit: June 19, 2018, 09:27:44 AM by HUGO
It definitely plays a part but it?s never really been an issue in rap I?ve noticed. You really can?t name any other light skin rapper who?s benefited from being light skinned besides Drake. Even back in the 90?s and earlier days.

fresh

Quote from: HUGO on June 19, 2018, 09:23:11 AM
It definitely plays a part but it?s never really been an issue in rap I?ve noticed. You really can?t name any other light skin rapper who?s benefited from being light skinned besides Drake. Even back in the 90?s and earlier days.

Eminim, cardi, post malone, lil pump ect...

RAY7

Quote from: Nine on June 19, 2018, 09:10:00 AM
Quote from: Cartier on June 19, 2018, 09:00:33 AM
Quote from: HUGO on June 19, 2018, 08:55:52 AM
Of course he didn?t but in his profession....

Kendrick, Wayne, Kanye, Future  Asap, Rick Ross, Meek...

:diddraispoot:


Drake has arguably achieved more mainstream success than all of these people.
!!!!!

like...
IDK when you include Wayne and Kanye
I mean Drake JUST started getting #1 singles in the past couple years...

Hatsumomo

Quote from: OwnIt on June 19, 2018, 07:37:13 AM
I get what he's getting at. Maybe you should watch it again and try to comprehend his words a little better?

n

Vonc2002

Quote from: Cartier on June 19, 2018, 09:04:01 AM
Shit, you can even argue that racial ambiguity played a huge part in Rihanna breaking out and becoming a worldwide star compared to her contemporaries that came out around the same time.

When you're BLACK black, there are definitely certain limits imposed on you in comparison to your racially ambiguous counterparts.
Well to be fair that's pop music and not at all what Hugo is talking about
This is my pass to say WHATEVER tf I wanna say about the mess she releases so I don't wanna hear SHIT! Baby mama is a mess of a song btw





Cartierline

Quote from: Vonc2002 on June 19, 2018, 10:18:06 AM
Quote from: Cartier on June 19, 2018, 09:04:01 AM
Shit, you can even argue that racial ambiguity played a huge part in Rihanna breaking out and becoming a worldwide star compared to her contemporaries that came out around the same time.

When you're BLACK black, there are definitely certain limits imposed on you in comparison to your racially ambiguous counterparts.
Well to be fair that's pop music and not at all what Hugo is talking about


Pop, rap, film, whatever. As fresh said, being racially ambiguous is almost always a positive in any field.

Kurama