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[D.I.E.G.O.]

What white R&B singers?

They name dropped Sam Smith & Adele.

Eric says why is it label 'genius' when they do it.

Thanks, love! Just finished listening. I don?t consider these folks R&B artists. Hmmm I get what he?s saying, I?m just trying to think of examples that make sense?true R&B artists who are white.

Teena Marie aka the Ivory Queen of Soul

Contemporary, I should have clarified. Jon and Teena are not current artists. There are many that rely on R&B elements, inflections, etc. I think his categorization threw me off.

[Lazarus]

Daley. He's super underrated.

[D.I.E.G.O.]

Daley is favored? How so? He has no hit records here in the States and he?s not the most critically acclaimed import. In fact, he?s incredibly underrated (and trying to slide into Bran?s DMs for a collab.)

I?m genuinely curious about Eric?s argument. It sounds good in theory, but I am trying to find concrete examples.

[D.I.E.G.O.]

Daley. He's super underrated.

True! I wouldn?t say he?s favored, but he is a contemporary R&B artist who is white.

[Lazarus]

I didn't say he was favored though. If anything he's underrated and imo, much better than Sam Smith.

[Sovereign.]

I don?t agree with Joe?s statement about music JUST being entertainment. Look at the Blues, Gospel, Jazz, Disco, Hip-Hop, House, etc. Those forms were birthed from specific political and social experiences. They were birthed as an act of survival unique to black, queer and trans folk. However, I don?t agree without Eric either. He comes from the school where if it isn?t imagined as respectable it isn?t art. That is also a lie. Hip-Hop has been the catalyst for so much social and cultural change. As much as the "mainstream" (white folks), refuse to acknowledge this or show up monetarily for black artists, just look at media and see all the en vogue dances, the Trap beats that every artist wants to reference, and look at who is attending the Migos concerts and before Migos who was attending NWA, Snoop concerts, etc.

[Lazarus]

I think of Boy George but he's not totally a true blue R&B artist although he's incorporated those elements into his music and was highly successful in his prime.

[D.I.E.G.O.]

I didn't say he was favored though. If anything he's underrated and imo, much better than Sam Smith.

!!! For sure. Daley is dope. I was referring back to Eric?s argument about white R&B acts being favored. Thanks for the example.

[b7]

This was a bop but I low-key was like at all the appropriation.

Blacks in the field clappin with me ya'll! Soul sistah! Nigga-approved!



I wouldn't call Kelly a wannabe R&B singer but it definitely was a side eye moment for me.

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r these cotton fields

[Bulldagger]

Soul music is not rhythm and blues. Just because Adele yells and screams doesn?t make her an R&B artist. Both she and Sam sing SOUL music. If she sang a song like Angel of Mine or Let It Flow, then she?d be considered R&B.

[Bulldagger]

I mean, white soul is a real thing...

I don?t get R&B from song like Rolling in The Deep and Someone Like You. I get alternative lite rock vibes.