Can a Black person effectively be "Anti White"?

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jtwoeleven

April 12, 2019, 01:00:22 PM #45 Last Edit: April 12, 2019, 01:02:18 PM by jtwoeleven
There's a difference between social racism and systemic racism. This country is based on systemic racism (and social) in the form of government policies, court decisions, etc

A black person's racism against whites can't hurt much of anything besides their feelings, but who cares about that? Lol

Vonc2002

Well what else are we to go by if not definitions :plzstop:

U can use YOUR definition of racism if it suits u better but that's actually not the definition most people live by. And I was actually gonna say sumn when I saw that "if u ask can black people be racist then most would say no" post. ACTUALLY most would probably say yes because the only people that recognize this hotep definition of racism are these black people that are too enlightened for their own good :dead:
This is my pass to say WHATEVER tf I wanna say about the mess she releases so I don't wanna hear SHIT! Baby mama is a mess of a song btw





Kurama

Quote from: Vonc2002 on April 12, 2019, 12:57:40 PM
Quote from: ophelia_b on April 12, 2019, 12:56:37 PM
Quote from: Kurama on April 12, 2019, 12:39:13 PM
Can someone walk me through how Black ppl can be racist?

because racism is ANY set of beliefs (good OR bad) about a specific group based solely on their race.

like when people joke that asians are smarter than everybody else, thats racism by definition.

power only comes into play when you start takling about using racism as a means if oppression. a lot of people mistakenly think racism isself IS the institution of oppression, but it's not. it's merely the TOOL used within the institution. just like sexism is the tool used in the institution of the oppression of women.

anyone can be racist because it's just a set of views. you have to have power in order to OPPRESS. but the two are not one in the same.
U spoke a word here

Yeah he did. You aint ever fuckin doing it so MOVE! lolz

Vonc2002

Quote from: Kurama on April 12, 2019, 01:03:37 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on April 12, 2019, 12:57:40 PM
Quote from: ophelia_b on April 12, 2019, 12:56:37 PM
Quote from: Kurama on April 12, 2019, 12:39:13 PM
Can someone walk me through how Black ppl can be racist?

because racism is ANY set of beliefs (good OR bad) about a specific group based solely on their race.

like when people joke that asians are smarter than everybody else, thats racism by definition.

power only comes into play when you start takling about using racism as a means if oppression. a lot of people mistakenly think racism isself IS the institution of oppression, but it's not. it's merely the TOOL used within the institution. just like sexism is the tool used in the institution of the oppression of women.

anyone can be racist because it's just a set of views. you have to have power in order to OPPRESS. but the two are not one in the same.
U spoke a word here

Yeah he did. You aint ever fuckin doing it so MOVE! lolz
And no one wants to hear ur words because they're usually skewed and self gratifying but I'm glad he was able provide u with a DEFINITION that penetrated that dense ass head of yours lmmfao!!!!!
This is my pass to say WHATEVER tf I wanna say about the mess she releases so I don't wanna hear SHIT! Baby mama is a mess of a song btw





Kurama

Quote from: jtwoeleven on April 12, 2019, 01:00:22 PM
There's a difference between social racism and systemic racism. This country is based on systemic racism (and social) in the form of government policies, court decisions, etc

A black person's racism against whites can't hurt much of anything besides their feelings, but who cares about that? Lol

I agree but what are you saying exactly is my question. How can Black ppl ignore oppression that they currently deal with to perceive white ppl fairly?

How can you remove oppression from racism when its literally the foundation of it?

No one gave a shit about race until WHITE ppl made it a qualifier of humanity.

Vonc2002

This is my pass to say WHATEVER tf I wanna say about the mess she releases so I don't wanna hear SHIT! Baby mama is a mess of a song btw





Kurama

Quote from: Vonc2002 on April 12, 2019, 01:08:33 PM
Quote from: Kurama on April 12, 2019, 01:03:37 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on April 12, 2019, 12:57:40 PM
Quote from: ophelia_b on April 12, 2019, 12:56:37 PM
Quote from: Kurama on April 12, 2019, 12:39:13 PM
Can someone walk me through how Black ppl can be racist?

because racism is ANY set of beliefs (good OR bad) about a specific group based solely on their race.

like when people joke that asians are smarter than everybody else, thats racism by definition.

power only comes into play when you start takling about using racism as a means if oppression. a lot of people mistakenly think racism isself IS the institution of oppression, but it's not. it's merely the TOOL used within the institution. just like sexism is the tool used in the institution of the oppression of women.

anyone can be racist because it's just a set of views. you have to have power in order to OPPRESS. but the two are not one in the same.
U spoke a word here

Yeah he did. You aint ever fuckin doing it so MOVE! lolz
And no one wants to hear ur words

Nigga, really? Idk why yo ass even ATTEMPTS to post in the socially aware threads. We've all seen those shitty angry nonsensical ass posts, PLEASE!

Stick to  being disgruntled in music and reality tv threads. You're out of your depth.
:ohhey:

LOONA.

Quote from: ophelia_b on April 12, 2019, 12:56:37 PM
Quote from: Kurama on April 12, 2019, 12:39:13 PM
Can someone walk me through how Black ppl can be racist?

because racism is ANY set of beliefs (good OR bad) about a specific group based solely on their race.

like when people joke that asians are smarter than everybody else, thats racism by definition.

power only comes into play when you start takling about using racism as a means if oppression. a lot of people mistakenly think racism isself IS the institution of oppression, but it's not. it's merely the TOOL used within the institution. just like sexism is the tool used in the institution of the oppression of women.

anyone can be racist because it's just a set of views. you have to have power in order to OPPRESS. but the two are not one in the same.

Oh naw this nigga is too smart to be Mu     

LOONA.

Quote from: Kurama on April 12, 2019, 01:12:34 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on April 12, 2019, 01:08:33 PM
Quote from: Kurama on April 12, 2019, 01:03:37 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on April 12, 2019, 12:57:40 PM
Quote from: ophelia_b on April 12, 2019, 12:56:37 PM
Quote from: Kurama on April 12, 2019, 12:39:13 PM
Can someone walk me through how Black ppl can be racist?

because racism is ANY set of beliefs (good OR bad) about a specific group based solely on their race.

like when people joke that asians are smarter than everybody else, thats racism by definition.

power only comes into play when you start takling about using racism as a means if oppression. a lot of people mistakenly think racism isself IS the institution of oppression, but it's not. it's merely the TOOL used within the institution. just like sexism is the tool used in the institution of the oppression of women.

anyone can be racist because it's just a set of views. you have to have power in order to OPPRESS. but the two are not one in the same.
U spoke a word here

Yeah he did. You aint ever fuckin doing it so MOVE! lolz
And no one wants to hear ur words

Nigga, really? Idk why yo ass even ATTEMPTS to post in the socially aware threads. We've all seen those shitty angry nonsensical ass posts, PLEASE!

Stick to  being disgruntled in music and reality tv threads. You're out of your depth.
:ohhey:

SHIT...you really just lashed Vonc here 

Vonc2002

Quote from: Kurama on April 12, 2019, 01:12:34 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on April 12, 2019, 01:08:33 PM
Quote from: Kurama on April 12, 2019, 01:03:37 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on April 12, 2019, 12:57:40 PM
Quote from: ophelia_b on April 12, 2019, 12:56:37 PM
Quote from: Kurama on April 12, 2019, 12:39:13 PM
Can someone walk me through how Black ppl can be racist?

because racism is ANY set of beliefs (good OR bad) about a specific group based solely on their race.

like when people joke that asians are smarter than everybody else, thats racism by definition.

power only comes into play when you start takling about using racism as a means if oppression. a lot of people mistakenly think racism isself IS the institution of oppression, but it's not. it's merely the TOOL used within the institution. just like sexism is the tool used in the institution of the oppression of women.

anyone can be racist because it's just a set of views. you have to have power in order to OPPRESS. but the two are not one in the same.
U spoke a word here

Yeah he did. You aint ever fuckin doing it so MOVE! lolz
And no one wants to hear ur words

Nigga, really? Idk why yo ass even ATTEMPTS to post in the socially aware threads.
Because I, like everyone else, have an opinion. If u don't like my opinion or don't value it then ur free to move around me. I DEFINITELY won't hold u up lolz
:dead:
This is my pass to say WHATEVER tf I wanna say about the mess she releases so I don't wanna hear SHIT! Baby mama is a mess of a song btw





oph.

Quote from: Kurama on April 12, 2019, 01:00:16 PM
Quote from: ophelia_b on April 12, 2019, 12:56:37 PM
Quote from: Kurama on April 12, 2019, 12:39:13 PM
Can someone walk me through how Black ppl can be racist?

because racism is ANY set of beliefs (good OR bad) about a specific group based solely on their race.

like when people joke that asians are smarter than everybody else, thats racism by definition.

power only comes into play when you start takling about using racism as a means if oppression. a lot of people mistakenly think racism isself IS the institution of oppression, but it's not. it's merely the TOOL used within the institution. just like sexism is the tool used in the institution of the oppression of women.

anyone can be racist because it's just a set of views. you have to have power in order to OPPRESS. but the two are not one in the same.

Ack! Thanks for a real ass response king lolz.

I receive that. So here's my thing. How can an entire group of people NOT bare resentment or prejudice to another group of people who historically and presently have treated them as less than human?

Like if there's a bully in high school that just wont fuckin graduate or die. Your grandparents told you about how this bully fucked them over, then your parents, then you get to high school are you expected to not have an impression of this bully and give em a clean slate?

all valid points bby. with no easy answer.

the "right" or moral answer is: We can't stoop to the level of our enemies and oppressors. We have to overcome and forgive.

but we're human and resentment is REAL. i think one of the major psychological struggles that many go through as black people is trying to deal with the feelings of anger and resentment (that white people are STILL giving us reasons to feel) while also not wanting to become like or adopt the same mindset as the oppressor.

Kurama

Quote from: Vonc2002 on April 12, 2019, 01:14:57 PM
Quote from: Kurama on April 12, 2019, 01:12:34 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on April 12, 2019, 01:08:33 PM
Quote from: Kurama on April 12, 2019, 01:03:37 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on April 12, 2019, 12:57:40 PM
Quote from: ophelia_b on April 12, 2019, 12:56:37 PM
Quote from: Kurama on April 12, 2019, 12:39:13 PM
Can someone walk me through how Black ppl can be racist?

because racism is ANY set of beliefs (good OR bad) about a specific group based solely on their race.

like when people joke that asians are smarter than everybody else, thats racism by definition.

power only comes into play when you start takling about using racism as a means if oppression. a lot of people mistakenly think racism isself IS the institution of oppression, but it's not. it's merely the TOOL used within the institution. just like sexism is the tool used in the institution of the oppression of women.

anyone can be racist because it's just a set of views. you have to have power in order to OPPRESS. but the two are not one in the same.
U spoke a word here

Yeah he did. You aint ever fuckin doing it so MOVE! lolz
And no one wants to hear ur words

Nigga, really? Idk why yo ass even ATTEMPTS to post in the socially aware threads.
Because I, like everyone else, have an opinion.
:dead:

Aint nobody tryna hear or see it in threads like these nigga, shit :kii:

Kurama

Quote from: ophelia_b on April 12, 2019, 01:15:06 PM
Quote from: Kurama on April 12, 2019, 01:00:16 PM
Quote from: ophelia_b on April 12, 2019, 12:56:37 PM
Quote from: Kurama on April 12, 2019, 12:39:13 PM
Can someone walk me through how Black ppl can be racist?

because racism is ANY set of beliefs (good OR bad) about a specific group based solely on their race.

like when people joke that asians are smarter than everybody else, thats racism by definition.

power only comes into play when you start takling about using racism as a means if oppression. a lot of people mistakenly think racism isself IS the institution of oppression, but it's not. it's merely the TOOL used within the institution. just like sexism is the tool used in the institution of the oppression of women.

anyone can be racist because it's just a set of views. you have to have power in order to OPPRESS. but the two are not one in the same.

Ack! Thanks for a real ass response king lolz.

I receive that. So here's my thing. How can an entire group of people NOT bare resentment or prejudice to another group of people who historically and presently have treated them as less than human?

Like if there's a bully in high school that just wont fuckin graduate or die. Your grandparents told you about how this bully fucked them over, then your parents, then you get to high school are you expected to not have an impression of this bully and give em a clean slate?

all valid points bby. with no easy answer.

the "right" or moral answer is: We can't stoop to the level of our enemies and oppressors. We have to overcome and forgive.

but we're human and resentment is REAL. i think one of the major psychological struggles that many go through as black people is trying to deal with the feelings of anger and resentment (that white people are STILL giving us reasons to feel) while also not wanting to become like or adopt the same mindset as the oppressor.

I agree. It's a struggle especially considering that it's something that we are still experiencing but I also understand how carrying that can be burdensome for Black folks too.

I think when we give white folks and ourselves the freedom to call us racist we create a vacuum of false equivalency (which white ppl love), lack of context, and an invalidation of our experience as Black ppl, then and now.

I appreciate you addressing my question intelligent king.
:ohwow: :ohwow: :ohwow:

oph.


LOONA.

Can blacks be racist? Yh by standard textbook definition I guess. Blacks don't have the power to act on their "racism" and use it to slight or disadvantage anybody though. IDK if that's an excuse to absolve blacks or any race from being labeled racist tbh.

And I feel like racism and prejudice is no different from shit and piss...both are terrible but people seem think being prejudice isn't as bad.