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?The writers were already breaking a story in which ? shock of shocks ? Jamal hooks up with a girl, after all he?s been through,? showrunner Ilene Chaiken tells Variety of the surprising storyline. ?It?s a conversation that happens among gay people about sexual fluidity ? about being devoutly gay, if you will, but there?s a spectrum. There are some folks who aren?t attracted to people of the opposite sex at all, but there are some gay folks who sometimes do find themselves unexpectedly and momentarily attracted. Especially when you?re involved in a creative endeavor, those sparks can flare up because when you do something creative with someone and it really catches fire, there?s just nothing sexier.?

Clearing up Jamal?s sexuality, Chaiken adds, ?We?re very clear that Jamal is gay and Jamal is clear that he?s gay, but it just happened. Isn?t personal agency all about being able to act on something in the moment and owning yourself and not having to explain it or justify it??
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http://variety.com/2015/tv/news/empire-alicia-keys-jamal-skye-kiss-rosie-o-donnell-season-2-episode-9-recap-1201648360/

just like I was telling y'all dumbasses especially Talisa
it was just in the moment
Egg all in them faces

so you would kiss a guy?

[throwintheTAL]

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If that boxer can have 10 kids between multiple women and still be labeled "gay" then why are y'all up in arms about Jamal kissing a girl in some spur of the moment mess?

It isn't odd for gays to dabble in pussy, especially if they're still struggling or coming to terms with their sexual identity. IDK what the point of this debate is.   

It's not even a debate! Ppl are just pissed that the show is not turning out to be as good as they thought. It's disappointing

[death]

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especially if they're still struggling or coming to terms with their sexual identity. IDK what the point of this debate is.   

jamal isnt fckin comin to terms wit his damn sexuality
hes a FAGGOT

moreso on
nobod' is knockin tha fact of wen men come to terms wit their sexuality

Jamal been gay & let tha world kno about it every damn scene in season 1

wat we ARE discussin is this bad writing n tha fact ppl are gonna eat IT UP 'cause jamal is 'finally healed'
'found tha right gurl'


fck outta hea wit this bullshit

You sound dumb

Empire has done nothing but exploit gays and use them for shock value/ratings and controversy. This Jamal mess is just another example and you dummies are kinda falling for it.

Am kinda confused as to why y'all still watch and support this mess. 

Jamal wasnt sum queen wit lipstick on testing tha audiences patience & switchin around in heels ev' scene

Stupid tranny   

guh...

[death]

SHUT UP!

[LOONA.]

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If that boxer can have 10 kids between multiple women and still be labeled "gay" then why are y'all up in arms about Jamal kissing a girl in some spur of the moment mess?

It isn't odd for gays to dabble in pussy, especially if they're still struggling or coming to terms with their sexual identity. IDK what the point of this debate is.   

It's not even a debate! Ppl are just pissed that the show is not turning out to be as good as they thought. It's disappointing

The show was always terrible honestly. I think everybody was just caught up in the hype during season 1.   

[RAY7]

?The writers were already breaking a story in which ? shock of shocks ? Jamal hooks up with a girl, after all he?s been through,? showrunner Ilene Chaiken tells Variety of the surprising storyline. ?It?s a conversation that happens among gay people about sexual fluidity ? about being devoutly gay, if you will, but there?s a spectrum. There are some folks who aren?t attracted to people of the opposite sex at all, but there are some gay folks who sometimes do find themselves unexpectedly and momentarily attracted. Especially when you?re involved in a creative endeavor, those sparks can flare up because when you do something creative with someone and it really catches fire, there?s just nothing sexier.?

Clearing up Jamal?s sexuality, Chaiken adds, ?We?re very clear that Jamal is gay and Jamal is clear that he?s gay, but it just happened. Isn?t personal agency all about being able to act on something in the moment and owning yourself and not having to explain it or justify it??
/quote]

http://variety.com/2015/tv/news/empire-alicia-keys-jamal-skye-kiss-rosie-o-donnell-season-2-episode-9-recap-1201648360/

just like I was telling y'all dumbasses especially Talisa
it was just in the moment
Egg all in them faces

so you would kiss a guy?

no I wouldn't
I'm not on that end of the spectrum

[death]

i want a nice prett' trans gurl to come onto tha show

n 'change hakeems world'
hmph

[BAPHOMET.]

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[throwintheTAL]

i want a nice prett' trans gurl to come onto tha show

n 'change hakeems world'
hmph

i second the motion

[FINE.]

i want a nice prett' trans gurl to come onto tha show

n 'change hakeems world'
hmph

i second the motion

[Bentley!]

?The writers were already breaking a story in which ? shock of shocks ? Jamal hooks up with a girl, after all he?s been through,? showrunner Ilene Chaiken tells Variety of the surprising storyline. ?It?s a conversation that happens among gay people about sexual fluidity ? about being devoutly gay, if you will, but there?s a spectrum. There are some folks who aren?t attracted to people of the opposite sex at all, but there are some gay folks who sometimes do find themselves unexpectedly and momentarily attracted. Especially when you?re involved in a creative endeavor, those sparks can flare up because when you do something creative with someone and it really catches fire, there?s just nothing sexier.?

Clearing up Jamal?s sexuality, Chaiken adds, ?We?re very clear that Jamal is gay and Jamal is clear that he?s gay, but it just happened. Isn?t personal agency all about being able to act on something in the moment and owning yourself and not having to explain it or justify it??
/quote]

http://variety.com/2015/tv/news/empire-alicia-keys-jamal-skye-kiss-rosie-o-donnell-season-2-episode-9-recap-1201648360/

just like I was telling y'all dumbasses especially Talisa
it was just in the moment
Egg all in them faces

so you would kiss a guy?

no I wouldn't
I'm not on that end of the spectrum

ssss
so basically proving our argument and our disdain for how it's portrayed

Cause if you (str8 guy) kissed another guy it'd make you gay huh?
But if Jamal kissed a girl he's just a confused soul huh?

Um... Yea

[RAY7]

?The writers were already breaking a story in which ? shock of shocks ? Jamal hooks up with a girl, after all he?s been through,? showrunner Ilene Chaiken tells Variety of the surprising storyline. ?It?s a conversation that happens among gay people about sexual fluidity ? about being devoutly gay, if you will, but there?s a spectrum. There are some folks who aren?t attracted to people of the opposite sex at all, but there are some gay folks who sometimes do find themselves unexpectedly and momentarily attracted. Especially when you?re involved in a creative endeavor, those sparks can flare up because when you do something creative with someone and it really catches fire, there?s just nothing sexier.?

Clearing up Jamal?s sexuality, Chaiken adds, ?We?re very clear that Jamal is gay and Jamal is clear that he?s gay, but it just happened. Isn?t personal agency all about being able to act on something in the moment and owning yourself and not having to explain it or justify it??
/quote]

http://variety.com/2015/tv/news/empire-alicia-keys-jamal-skye-kiss-rosie-o-donnell-season-2-episode-9-recap-1201648360/

just like I was telling y'all dumbasses especially Talisa
it was just in the moment
Egg all in them faces

so you would kiss a guy?

no I wouldn't
I'm not on that end of the spectrum

ssss
so basically proving our argument and our disdain for how it's portrayed

Cause if you (str8 guy) kissed another guy it'd make you gay huh?
But if Jamal kissed a girl he's just a confused soul huh?

Um... Yea

didnt prove anything the person from the show said he's not confused you did (and others in this thread)

If I kissed a guy I still wouldn't be actually gay, but I wouldn't do it
because that's disgusting to me, and no one would let me live it down
Jamal can kiss whoever he wants and still just be the same gay man
I don't see what the disdain is about

[The Brandy Barbie]

Ray give it up, it's not about you. The gheys in here are upset at the fact that the masses would use Jamal more if he takes on a female love interest.

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when did I say it's about me?
can you read?

You seem to be taking the "confused" thing personal

Its just weird to me how the gays on here stay up in arms about the hardships they face, specifically me as a Christian, religious person, it's been all blamed on us. Then they turn around and do the same stuff to others, that they claim we do to them.

Because we don't have a problem with bisexuality. It's the fact that this character has always said that he was gay since season 1 and now they're flip flopping. You don't have no clue what you're talking about AT ALL. Please, don't throw the fact that you're a Christian in this. Please don't. Because you're asking for trouble by doing that. Just warning you.

But they do this all of the time with "straight" characters in shows... Were you up in arms when Analise was making out with her lesbian boo or when Anika had sex with the lady to try to get a deal with her?  They turned characters on Grey's Anatomy, Desperate Housewives, Love That Girl, and  The Game onto some bisexual activities when those characters had always been straight.  You are only offended with this character who is supposed to be gay that now may be bi.

[RekeRig]

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nobody said anything about bisexuality. I wouldn't mind seeing Hakeem or Andre give a bisexual MESS out, but they won't do that. They will take Jamal and try to make him "confused" because thus giving weight to the gay is a choice or phase debate.

What happened to "LOVE is LOVE" ? To be honest those scenes with him and Skye had more chemistry than him and Dora, we've never seen any emotional connection from them.... just them playing house, occasional kiss, and breaking up

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If Lee wanna put him up with Alicia Keys I don't give a damn. I ain't even watched the show, but please don't sit here like him having Jamal is supposed to be some bisexual representation. It's being used for SHOCK value which is a problem in itself.

Im just saying they would have never given a Straight character a storyline with a man.

right. People would be in a damn uproar

[AIDS!]

The only people using the term confusedare in here though
and that's assumptions
nothing from the show so far has led to the conclusion he's confused about anything
or that he chose his sexuality
It just seems like gays are looking at bi ppl just like others view them
very hilarious considering everyone wants to blame Christians for everything

You claim to be neither gay or bi, so just stay out of it.
Please ????