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I know some might disagree but I never really saw Mariah as R&B.. She just don't have that grit and authenticity of soul.

[FlowerBomb]

Wasn't Mariah jealous of Mary's street cred?
She said she'd trade all her sales for that

[FlowerBomb]

Rooney: One night, we went to dinner at Sylvia's in Harlem -- me, Tommy, and Mariah. On our way back, we were riding in the limo and every club, every car was bumping "Fantasy." Mariah put her sunglasses on, and tears came down her cheeks, because she couldn't believe her record was getting played all through the hood. That was the beginning of her not turning back to pop.

She once told me though she was grateful for her success, she would trade in all of her record sales to get the respect that Mary J. Blige got. She said, "Mary doesn't have to sell 28 million records to be respected -- people respect Mary, and I just want to be respected like her."

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  yeah mariah is not respected. She's the taylor of the 90s.

Mary been a legend since ger debut single 

[Good Morning Gorgeous]

Wasn't Mariah jealous of Mary's street cred?
She said she'd trade all her sales for that

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Mariah serving every bit of suzie from bbw in that pic 

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The singer is also credited for introducing R&B and hip hop into mainstream pop culture, and for popularizing rap as a featuring act through her post-1995 songs. Sasha Frere-Jones, editor of The New Yorker commented, "It became standard for R&B/hip-hop stars like Missy Elliott and Beyoncé, to combine melodies with rapped verses. And young white pop stars—including Britney Spears, Jessica Simpson, Christina Aguilera, and 'N Sync—have spent much of the past ten years making pop music that is unmistakably R&B." Moreover Jones concludes that "[Carey's] idea of pairing a female songbird with the leading male MCs of hip-hop changed R&B and, eventually, all of pop. Although now anyone is free to use this idea, the success of The Emancipation of Mimi suggests that it still belongs to Carey."[69]

hmm

Called the "Queen of Hip-Hop Soul", Blige is credited with influencing the musical marriage of hip hop and R&B.
Ethan Brown of The New Yorker says that albums "What's the 411?" and "My Life", in hindsight, invented "the sample-heavy sound that reinvigorated urban radio and became a blueprint for nineties hip-hop and R&B".
Brown further concludes that Mary's "duets with the Wu-Tang Clan's Method Man and Ghostface Killah set the trend for collaborations between rappers and R&B songbirds like Mariah Carey".
Tom Horan of The Daily Telegraph comments that Blige, being a hugely influential figure in popular music, "invented what is now called R&B by successfully combining female vocals with muscular hip hop rhythm tracks. All over the world, that recipe dominates today's charts.
"Called one of the "most explosive, coming-out displays of pure singing prowess" and "one of the most important albums of the nineties",
What's the 411? saw Blige pioneer "the movement that would later become neo soul, generating gripping songs that were also massive radio hits".

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The singer is also credited for introducing R&B and hip hop into mainstream pop culture, and for popularizing rap as a featuring act through her post-1995 songs. Sasha Frere-Jones, editor of The New Yorker commented, "It became standard for R&B/hip-hop stars like Missy Elliott and Beyoncé, to combine melodies with rapped verses. And young white pop stars—including Britney Spears, Jessica Simpson, Christina Aguilera, and 'N Sync—have spent much of the past ten years making pop music that is unmistakably R&B." Moreover Jones concludes that "[Carey's] idea of pairing a female songbird with the leading male MCs of hip-hop changed R&B and, eventually, all of pop. Although now anyone is free to use this idea, the success of The Emancipation of Mimi suggests that it still belongs to Carey."[69]

hmm

Called the "Queen of Hip-Hop Soul", Blige is credited with influencing the musical marriage of hip hop and R&B.
Ethan Brown of The New Yorker says that albums "What's the 411?" and "My Life", in hindsight, invented "the sample-heavy sound that reinvigorated urban radio and became a blueprint for nineties hip-hop and R&B".
Brown further concludes that Mary's "duets with the Wu-Tang Clan's Method Man and Ghostface Killah set the trend for collaborations between rappers and R&B songbirds like Mariah Carey".
Tom Horan of The Daily Telegraph comments that Blige, being a hugely influential figure in popular music, "invented what is now called R&B by successfully combining female vocals with muscular hip hop rhythm tracks. All over the world, that recipe dominates today's charts.
"Called one of the "most explosive, coming-out displays of pure singing prowess" and "one of the most important albums of the nineties",
What's the 411? saw Blige pioneer "the movement that would later become neo soul, generating gripping songs that were also massive radio hits".

I always look back to Mary's first Grammy performance in which she performed No More Drama. The passion in that performance was due to the countless years of being deprived of all of her accomplishments, including paving the way for so many artists...even  the pop favorites. Since her debut you could not and still can't turn on the the radio without hearing her influence. The lady is legendary, influential and transcendent from the cookie cutter norm at the time (Whitney, Mariah and Toni). There is and always will be something about Mary.

[Scott.]

Like I said, generally speaking, I honestly believe Mary influenced the 2000s R&B girls more than MC cause that's the core of her music, but MC has influenced a much more WIDER crop of girls. And one of the biggest things she influenced artists to do is to pick up a damn pen and pad, and write & produce your work. Her whistle register alone is legendary, got these young girls tryna mimic her, tryna hit those big notes. Oh shit, I even forgot about Leona Lewis and Jordin Sparks and how they stan for her ass. C'mon now. And Mariah's music has been sampled way more than Mary's have. Her Christmas album is a staple and the amount of covers of All I Want For Xmas by artists of all genres. Y'all betta keep it the fuck cute on MC's influence. Mary may be #1 in Keyshia Cole's eyes, but MC influenced VOCALISTS.

Mary is number one in many people's eyes. Shut the fuck up.

Nobody is trying to take shit from Mariah so let's not

[Scott.]

If we're talking about R&B

That's literally what's in the fckn title

The lack of comprehension is troubling. The question was very specific.
Mary did more for the health and advancement of R&B. Inspired a whole generation of R&B artists that followed. Male and female.

"Inspired Kelly Clarkson!"

Bitch, is Kelly R&B? 

Exactly

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Ohhhh bitch y'all came to MESS with this topic 

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Mary pretty much is the definition of R&B
Mariah is a great vocalist/ songwriter her influence is stronger in the POP world IMO

!!!! This topic doesn't take away from Mariah

But in terms of R&B, u have to go with Mary

[BAPHOMET.]

Beyoncé is more influential than Mariah as well. Period.

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I know some might disagree but I never really saw Mariah as R&B.. She just don't have that grit and authenticity of soul.

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No matter the lies you tell yourself, Mary music became a major influence on Mariah Carey's sound. When Uptown Records dropped Mary's first #1 singles, "You Remind Me" and "Real Love," she kicked open the door on a new sound that would forever influence the way R&B was approached, especially for female artists like Mariah "whistleblowing" Carey.

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i feel like discrediting this bitch now

Go say something nice about brandy babe