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Bentley. HARRIS!

Quote from: 89 on December 19, 2019, 05:56:04 PM
Quote from: Bentley. A Moderator. on December 19, 2019, 05:48:37 PM
Quote from: 89 on December 19, 2019, 05:44:16 PM
Quote from: Bentley. A Moderator. on December 19, 2019, 05:30:35 PM
Did they all get their degrees from hbcu institutions?

I saw this posted a lot today and wasn't sure of the purpose or message they were tryna convey

I'm such a cynical asshole now
:plzstop:
maybe just the message that they are successful in the medical field but will always be humbled by their roots/ancestry
Or that their slave ancestors would be proud of how much they have accomplished
Something like that
Yea, none of that makes sense.

And it's the "powerful" and "we are our ancestors wildest dreams" assertions that's got me like
:calmdownsis:

Harriet and friends weren't sitting around in a pile of med school rejection letters, that wasn't their dream boy :dead:

But I get it! They're doing good, for their head on str8. And that's good.

But I'm not gonna clap any harder for them, than I am for a young black male or female that works at dollar tree, pays their bills, and may take 1 or 2 classes at the local community college to get where they need to get in this system that is so unfair to us. White accomplishments just don't equate to Black achievements to me anymore.

Now what would I clap hard for?

I would go BANANAS for them to caption this photo "Providing free medical care for all families and victims of slavery."

End of soapbox.
how is being a doctor a "white accomplishment"? The point is it's a high
Paying salaried job where they can provide for themselves and their families, which is far from being a slave
and I totally get the achievement part of it. I'm risking looking like a hater :dead:

But the "we are our ancestors dream" part ... that wasn't a bit much for you?

Our ancestors dream was to never even be part of this American system. They didn't want to be here at all :plzstop:

That's what we've gotten fooled into thinking.

I feel like a lot of blacks who consider themselves "far and above" being a slave, would be quite shocked if one of our ancestors visited them and gave them the real of this American system :dead:

And why didn't you comment on them giving free or reduced care to victims of slavery?

Bentley. HARRIS!

And they would be shocked to find out carpenters, doctors, priests, and architects lived in that house and al over other plantations :dead:

THOSE were our ancestors

Sometimes we look at our own past and buy into the reformed savage narrative that the slave owners tried to sell.

They actually took our knowledge and put us to work doing menial tasks.

But .... whatever, I'll go with the flow

"Med School! I's good at book learning' now!" :dead:

RAY7

Quote from: Bentley. A Moderator. on December 19, 2019, 06:03:19 PM
Quote from: 89 on December 19, 2019, 05:56:04 PM
Quote from: Bentley. A Moderator. on December 19, 2019, 05:48:37 PM
Quote from: 89 on December 19, 2019, 05:44:16 PM
Quote from: Bentley. A Moderator. on December 19, 2019, 05:30:35 PM
Did they all get their degrees from hbcu institutions?

I saw this posted a lot today and wasn't sure of the purpose or message they were tryna convey

I'm such a cynical asshole now
:plzstop:
maybe just the message that they are successful in the medical field but will always be humbled by their roots/ancestry
Or that their slave ancestors would be proud of how much they have accomplished
Something like that
Yea, none of that makes sense.

And it's the "powerful" and "we are our ancestors wildest dreams" assertions that's got me like
:calmdownsis:

Harriet and friends weren't sitting around in a pile of med school rejection letters, that wasn't their dream boy :dead:

But I get it! They're doing good, for their head on str8. And that's good.

But I'm not gonna clap any harder for them, than I am for a young black male or female that works at dollar tree, pays their bills, and may take 1 or 2 classes at the local community college to get where they need to get in this system that is so unfair to us. White accomplishments just don't equate to Black achievements to me anymore.

Now what would I clap hard for?

I would go BANANAS for them to caption this photo "Providing free medical care for all families and victims of slavery."

End of soapbox.
how is being a doctor a "white accomplishment"? The point is it's a high
Paying salaried job where they can provide for themselves and their families, which is far from being a slave
and I totally get the achievement part of it. I'm risking looking like a hater :dead:

But the "we are our ancestors dream" part ... that wasn't a bit much for you?

Our ancestors dream was to never even be part of this American system. They didn't want to be here at all :plzstop:

That's what we've gotten fooled into thinking.

I feel like a lot of blacks who consider themselves "far and above" being a slave, would be quite shocked if one of our ancestors visited them and gave them the real of this American system :dead:

And why didn't you comment on them giving free or reduced care to victims of slavery?
the dream would just be to be free, successful, educated and self-sufficient, most likely not in America but that's definitely not the point  :dead:
The free or reduced care part, I have no issue with
Hit them up on Twitter and provide that suggestion

RAY7

Quote from: Bentley. A Moderator. on December 19, 2019, 06:08:14 PM
And they would be shocked to find out carpenters, doctors, priests, and architects lived in that house and al over other plantations :dead:

THOSE were our ancestors

Sometimes we look at our own past and buy into the reformed savage narrative that the slave owners tried to sell.

They actually took our knowledge and put us to work doing menial tasks.

But .... whatever, I'll go with the flow

"Med School! I's good at book learning' now!" :dead:
they probably would not be shocked about that
clearly slaves were intelligent and creative, they were just bound in chains, not compensated for their work, not considered human etc
and now these descendants can own land, white ppl have to go to them for medical care, no one is whipping them and making them pick cotton
It's clearly a huge difference

Nine

Quote from: my "jesus" is Blindian on December 19, 2019, 11:29:20 AM
Medical students pose in front of Louisiana plantation's slave quarters for powerful photo



WALLACE, Louisiana -- A group of black medical students posed in front of the slave quarters of a Louisiana plantation for a powerful photo.

"Standing in front of the slave quarters of our ancestors, at The Whitney Plantation, with my medical school classmates. We are truly our ancestors' wildest dreams," Sydney Labat posted to Twitter.

https://twitter.com/_botttt/status/1205995679014891525?

The photo, featuring Labat and 14 of her Tulane University classmates in their white coats, was posted to Twitter and liked more than 65,000 times.

"I think I speak for myself and my classmates that it was an extremely humbling experience, to say the least," Labat told Good Morning America. "We would not be here without the strength and determination of those enslaved and their strength to live and to press on."

She said she credits her ancestors' resilience for her ability to pursue an education.

The Whitney Plantation in Wallace is one of the only plantations in the state with an exclusive focus on enslaved people, according to its website.

https://twitter.com/theguywithyes/status/1205998323355803648

https://abc7.com/society/medical-students-take-powerful-photo-in-front-of-slave-quarters/5766066/?fbclid=IwAR26oDtxlFdtKXBnF3OfgPgqAynaw-avdOm514e00fdXpJiPELz9uEovy_o
wow. powerful.

Bentley. HARRIS!

December 19, 2019, 06:25:51 PM #20 Last Edit: December 19, 2019, 06:27:31 PM by Bentley. A Moderator.
Quote from: 89 on December 19, 2019, 06:15:44 PM
Quote from: Bentley. A Moderator. on December 19, 2019, 06:08:14 PM
And they would be shocked to find out carpenters, doctors, priests, and architects lived in that house and al over other plantations :dead:

THOSE were our ancestors

Sometimes we look at our own past and buy into the reformed savage narrative that the slave owners tried to sell.

They actually took our knowledge and put us to work doing menial tasks.

But .... whatever, I'll go with the flow

"Med School! I's good at book learning' now!" :dead:
they probably would not be shocked about that
clearly slaves were intelligent and creative, they were just bound in chains, not compensated for their work, not considered human etc
and now these descendants can own land, white ppl have to go to them for medical care, no one is whipping them and making them pick cotton
It's clearly a huge difference
well you the one that said a dream of the slaves was to get free and educated

And it is clearly a fairytale narrative pushed by blk ppl with mindsets like Ben Carson and Candance Owens :dead:

Ok, how many black ppl you know that CAN actually own land, or afford a good college education? Realistically.

And we just found out concrete proof that whites PAY for Ivy League degrees :dead:

And let's also admit the fact that HBCU education isn't even black education, rather a diet white institution that provides Great Valu degree programs. That's not what Booker T envisioned :dead:

Yea they're not in chains or being whipped, but we can't act like this is for the good of Black culture anymore. How many doctors, lawyers, Tyler Perry's or Oprah's do we need before the narrative changes from, "oh we're "allowed" to prosper", to "I'm going to shed white American standards of success, and do my part for my people"

And I can guarantee if I ask them to offer free or reduced care to blacks. "Oh them niggas need to get it themselves, we're "allowed" to do it, I did it!"

I mean, that thought process is not working and never has good sir.

Bentley. HARRIS!

Quote from: 89 on December 19, 2019, 06:10:38 PM
Quote from: Bentley. A Moderator. on December 19, 2019, 06:03:19 PM
Quote from: 89 on December 19, 2019, 05:56:04 PM
Quote from: Bentley. A Moderator. on December 19, 2019, 05:48:37 PM
Quote from: 89 on December 19, 2019, 05:44:16 PM
Quote from: Bentley. A Moderator. on December 19, 2019, 05:30:35 PM
Did they all get their degrees from hbcu institutions?

I saw this posted a lot today and wasn't sure of the purpose or message they were tryna convey

I'm such a cynical asshole now
:plzstop:
maybe just the message that they are successful in the medical field but will always be humbled by their roots/ancestry
Or that their slave ancestors would be proud of how much they have accomplished
Something like that
Yea, none of that makes sense.

And it's the "powerful" and "we are our ancestors wildest dreams" assertions that's got me like
:calmdownsis:

Harriet and friends weren't sitting around in a pile of med school rejection letters, that wasn't their dream boy :dead:

But I get it! They're doing good, for their head on str8. And that's good.

But I'm not gonna clap any harder for them, than I am for a young black male or female that works at dollar tree, pays their bills, and may take 1 or 2 classes at the local community college to get where they need to get in this system that is so unfair to us. White accomplishments just don't equate to Black achievements to me anymore.

Now what would I clap hard for?

I would go BANANAS for them to caption this photo "Providing free medical care for all families and victims of slavery."

End of soapbox.
how is being a doctor a "white accomplishment"? The point is it's a high
Paying salaried job where they can provide for themselves and their families, which is far from being a slave
and I totally get the achievement part of it. I'm risking looking like a hater :dead:

But the "we are our ancestors dream" part ... that wasn't a bit much for you?

Our ancestors dream was to never even be part of this American system. They didn't want to be here at all :plzstop:

That's what we've gotten fooled into thinking.

I feel like a lot of blacks who consider themselves "far and above" being a slave, would be quite shocked if one of our ancestors visited them and gave them the real of this American system :dead:

And why didn't you comment on them giving free or reduced care to victims of slavery?
the dream would just be to be free, successful, educated and self-sufficient, most likely not in America but that's definitely not the point  :dead:
The free or reduced care part, I have no issue with
Hit them up on Twitter and provide that suggestion
Ok let's make it simple.

Our ancestors wouldn't approve of photo-ops

Why don't we just make it a resort,  Complete with rides on the Underground Railroad and gift shops filled with cotton candy and souvenir shackles!

And don't forget to throw in a Whipping Tree Selfie booth, no trip to Slave Land would be complete without it

Bentley. HARRIS!

Quote from: my "jesus" is Blindian on December 19, 2019, 06:32:40 PM
You kinda gettin at it a bit :butwait!:

I def see your logic 100%

You're speaking a lot to that "we're our ancestors' dream" line...And I did side eye it as well. Just a bit.

How do we know what their dreams were? Did they really want to be in the same positions as those who enslaved them? Because it was usually people of wealth who had slaves. Not regular degular White folks - those were the slave catchers, not owners.

A surgeon, J. Marion Sims, actually used female slaves to further his research in gynecology. Basically used them by performing invasive experiments on their genitalia for his own agenda.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/made-by-history/wp/2018/06/04/american-medicine-was-built-on-the-backs-of-slaves-and-it-still-affects-how-doctors-treat-patients-today/

Yeah it's digging a little deeper below the surface of it all but I think that's always healthy.

I think it's great to celebrate Black progress as a whole....but I'm also about being super mindful of things we say..to and about each other.
!!!!!!

You get it.

And we definitely have to watch the message we're sending to Da'Quan and Tyrone. To me it's a very sub-conscious message that is sent to them from teen years.

It's dangerous because as a Black, high level American education became the "dream". wearing a white lab coat gets you praise and at the core, accepted.

Medical School is very expensive, exclusive, and difficult :dead:

Hispanics and Asians and Sand Niggers will open a nail salon, massage parlor, landscaping company, restaurant, or corner store in OUR neighborhoods and we look down on it because they're servicing us. While still pouring our dollars into their business.

So What do we do with our youth that don't fit, and won't ever fit into this American system of accolades?

Ray wants us to show them this picture and say sorry you let your ancestors down :dead:

RAY7

Quote from: Bentley. A Moderator. on December 19, 2019, 06:25:51 PM
Quote from: 89 on December 19, 2019, 06:15:44 PM
Quote from: Bentley. A Moderator. on December 19, 2019, 06:08:14 PM
And they would be shocked to find out carpenters, doctors, priests, and architects lived in that house and al over other plantations :dead:

THOSE were our ancestors

Sometimes we look at our own past and buy into the reformed savage narrative that the slave owners tried to sell.

They actually took our knowledge and put us to work doing menial tasks.

But .... whatever, I'll go with the flow

"Med School! I's good at book learning' now!" :dead:
they probably would not be shocked about that
clearly slaves were intelligent and creative, they were just bound in chains, not compensated for their work, not considered human etc
and now these descendants can own land, white ppl have to go to them for medical care, no one is whipping them and making them pick cotton
It's clearly a huge difference
well you the one that said a dream of the slaves was to get free and educated

And it is clearly a fairytale narrative pushed by blk ppl with mindsets like Ben Carson and Candance Owens :dead:

Ok, how many black ppl you know that CAN actually own land, or afford a good college education? Realistically.

And we just found out concrete proof that whites PAY for Ivy League degrees :dead:

And let's also admit the fact that HBCU education isn't even black education, rather a diet white institution that provides Great Valu degree programs. That's not what Booker T envisioned :dead:

Yea they're not in chains or being whipped, but we can't act like this is for the good of Black culture anymore. How many doctors, lawyers, Tyler Perry's or Oprah's do we need before the narrative changes from, "oh we're "allowed" to prosper", to "I'm going to shed white American standards of success, and do my part for my people"

And I can guarantee if I ask them to offer free or reduced care to blacks. "Oh them niggas need to get it themselves, we're "allowed" to do it, I did it!"

I mean, that thought process is not working and never has good sir.
well educated and intelligent are 2 different things
But what are you really getting at? It kinda isn't making sense to tear ppl down for bettering themselves and being proud of it
What should Blacks do instead of going to college in order to become at least moderately successful and wealthy enough to live happily, debt-free etc?

jtwoeleven

Whew, Bent is kinda preachin' in here. I'm feelin some kinda way  :oof:

Bentley. HARRIS!

Quote from: 89 on December 19, 2019, 06:41:34 PM
Quote from: Bentley. A Moderator. on December 19, 2019, 06:25:51 PM
Quote from: 89 on December 19, 2019, 06:15:44 PM
Quote from: Bentley. A Moderator. on December 19, 2019, 06:08:14 PM
And they would be shocked to find out carpenters, doctors, priests, and architects lived in that house and al over other plantations :dead:

THOSE were our ancestors

Sometimes we look at our own past and buy into the reformed savage narrative that the slave owners tried to sell.

They actually took our knowledge and put us to work doing menial tasks.

But .... whatever, I'll go with the flow

"Med School! I's good at book learning' now!" :dead:
they probably would not be shocked about that
clearly slaves were intelligent and creative, they were just bound in chains, not compensated for their work, not considered human etc
and now these descendants can own land, white ppl have to go to them for medical care, no one is whipping them and making them pick cotton
It's clearly a huge difference
well you the one that said a dream of the slaves was to get free and educated

And it is clearly a fairytale narrative pushed by blk ppl with mindsets like Ben Carson and Candance Owens :dead:

Ok, how many black ppl you know that CAN actually own land, or afford a good college education? Realistically.

And we just found out concrete proof that whites PAY for Ivy League degrees :dead:

And let's also admit the fact that HBCU education isn't even black education, rather a diet white institution that provides Great Valu degree programs. That's not what Booker T envisioned :dead:

Yea they're not in chains or being whipped, but we can't act like this is for the good of Black culture anymore. How many doctors, lawyers, Tyler Perry's or Oprah's do we need before the narrative changes from, "oh we're "allowed" to prosper", to "I'm going to shed white American standards of success, and do my part for my people"

And I can guarantee if I ask them to offer free or reduced care to blacks. "Oh them niggas need to get it themselves, we're "allowed" to do it, I did it!"

I mean, that thought process is not working and never has good sir.
well educated and intelligent are 2 different things
But what are you really getting at? It kinda isn't making sense to tear ppl down for bettering themselves and being proud of it
What should Blacks do instead of going to college in order to become at least moderately successful and wealthy enough to live happily, debt-free etc?
Looks can be deceiving buddy, and that's what we as blacks fall into, the look of things.

I guarantee you that Every person in this pic is less wealthy and more poor than Reek is.
They'll spend their entire life working shifts and paying back for this "achievement"

White ppl don't pay what we pay for college and education :dead:

I'm not hating or looking down on their achievements, bravo to them.

But I'm not buying into what they're selling tbh

RAY7

Quote from: Bentley. A Moderator. on December 19, 2019, 06:41:06 PM
Quote from: my "jesus" is Blindian on December 19, 2019, 06:32:40 PM
You kinda gettin at it a bit :butwait!:

I def see your logic 100%

You're speaking a lot to that "we're our ancestors' dream" line...And I did side eye it as well. Just a bit.

How do we know what their dreams were? Did they really want to be in the same positions as those who enslaved them? Because it was usually people of wealth who had slaves. Not regular degular White folks - those were the slave catchers, not owners.

A surgeon, J. Marion Sims, actually used female slaves to further his research in gynecology. Basically used them by performing invasive experiments on their genitalia for his own agenda.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/made-by-history/wp/2018/06/04/american-medicine-was-built-on-the-backs-of-slaves-and-it-still-affects-how-doctors-treat-patients-today/

Yeah it's digging a little deeper below the surface of it all but I think that's always healthy.

I think it's great to celebrate Black progress as a whole....but I'm also about being super mindful of things we say..to and about each other.
!!!!!!

You get it.

And we definitely have to watch the message we're sending to Da'Quan and Tyrone. To me it's a very sub-conscious message that is sent to them from teen years.

It's dangerous because as a Black, high level American education became the "dream". wearing a white lab coat gets you praise and at the core, accepted.

Medical School is very expensive, exclusive, and difficult :dead:

Hispanics and Asians and Sand Niggers will open a nail salon, massage parlor, landscaping company, restaurant, or corner store in OUR neighborhoods and we look down on it because they're servicing us. While still pouring our dollars into their business.

So What do we do with our youth that don't fit, and won't ever fit into this American system of accolades?

Ray wants us to show them this picture and say sorry you let your ancestors down :dead:
Who are the youth that "don't fit in", and what separates them from these ppl pictured? I don't know any of these ppl and have no evidence that they have any kind of advantages or privileges
If anything showing any of our youth this should motivate them to see that they can do this if they want

RAY7

Quote from: Bentley. A Moderator. on December 19, 2019, 06:47:34 PM
Quote from: 89 on December 19, 2019, 06:41:34 PM
Quote from: Bentley. A Moderator. on December 19, 2019, 06:25:51 PM
Quote from: 89 on December 19, 2019, 06:15:44 PM
Quote from: Bentley. A Moderator. on December 19, 2019, 06:08:14 PM
And they would be shocked to find out carpenters, doctors, priests, and architects lived in that house and al over other plantations :dead:

THOSE were our ancestors

Sometimes we look at our own past and buy into the reformed savage narrative that the slave owners tried to sell.

They actually took our knowledge and put us to work doing menial tasks.

But .... whatever, I'll go with the flow

"Med School! I's good at book learning' now!" :dead:
they probably would not be shocked about that
clearly slaves were intelligent and creative, they were just bound in chains, not compensated for their work, not considered human etc
and now these descendants can own land, white ppl have to go to them for medical care, no one is whipping them and making them pick cotton
It's clearly a huge difference
well you the one that said a dream of the slaves was to get free and educated

And it is clearly a fairytale narrative pushed by blk ppl with mindsets like Ben Carson and Candance Owens :dead:

Ok, how many black ppl you know that CAN actually own land, or afford a good college education? Realistically.

And we just found out concrete proof that whites PAY for Ivy League degrees :dead:

And let's also admit the fact that HBCU education isn't even black education, rather a diet white institution that provides Great Valu degree programs. That's not what Booker T envisioned :dead:

Yea they're not in chains or being whipped, but we can't act like this is for the good of Black culture anymore. How many doctors, lawyers, Tyler Perry's or Oprah's do we need before the narrative changes from, "oh we're "allowed" to prosper", to "I'm going to shed white American standards of success, and do my part for my people"

And I can guarantee if I ask them to offer free or reduced care to blacks. "Oh them niggas need to get it themselves, we're "allowed" to do it, I did it!"

I mean, that thought process is not working and never has good sir.
well educated and intelligent are 2 different things
But what are you really getting at? It kinda isn't making sense to tear ppl down for bettering themselves and being proud of it
What should Blacks do instead of going to college in order to become at least moderately successful and wealthy enough to live happily, debt-free etc?
Looks can be deceiving buddy, and that's what we as blacks fall into, the look of things.

I guarantee you that Every person in this pic is less wealthy and more poor than Reek is.
They'll spend their entire life working shifts and paying back for this "achievement"

White ppl don't pay what we pay for college and education :dead:

I'm not hating or looking down on their achievements, bravo to them.

But I'm not buying into what they're selling tbh
how do you know they didn't get scholarships and don't have to pay anything back? This is a mess  :plzstop: