I'll be celebrating Kwanzaa this season.

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Herb.

I don't see what's funny about Kwanzaa though. but mess

yummy

December 12, 2015, 12:53:03 PM #16 Last Edit: December 12, 2015, 12:53:18 PM by ANIMMAI
I always loved the idea of the holiday until I read up on the creator's history :uhh:

RAY7

I NEVER said Kwanzaa was a part of African culture
YOU said African Americans "kii at anything African"
that's where my not seeing an abundance of Black people laughing at African culture came from.

If anything it didn't make sense to mention "anything African"
when Kwanzaa isn't "African" it's "African-American"

Herb.

Quote from: ANIMMAI on December 12, 2015, 12:53:03 PM
I always loved the idea of the holiday until I read up on the creator's history :uhh:
spill tea sis :omgwatshappening:

yummy

December 12, 2015, 12:58:47 PM #19 Last Edit: December 12, 2015, 01:00:03 PM by ANIMMAI
Quote from: Herbie on December 12, 2015, 12:54:15 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on December 12, 2015, 12:53:03 PM
I always loved the idea of the holiday until I read up on the creator's history :uhh:
spill tea sis :omgwatshappening:

Maulana Karenga tortured and raped multiple women in his religious following and served four years in prison.

Nothing wrong with separating the concept of the holiday from the creator but idk about celebrating a tradition that honors unity and faith knowing it originated from a rapist.

Herb.

December 12, 2015, 01:01:10 PM #20 Last Edit: December 12, 2015, 01:05:40 PM by Herbie
Quote from: inluvwitbran on December 12, 2015, 12:53:22 PM
I NEVER said Kwanzaa was a part of African culture
YOU said African Americans "kii at anything African"
that's where my not seeing an abundance of Black people laughing at African culture came from.

If anything it didn't make sense to mention "anything African"
when Kwanzaa isn't "African" it's "African-American"
African, African American, etc. are all subjective.
If anything African is more factual, it is science based. I see African American as a label. Not an offensive label, or one that should be closely questioned, but it is a label.

Kwanzaa is a holiday which celebrates and honors AFRICAN heritage.
Not "African American" heritage, which includes the slave rape blood which is in most of our genomes.

You brought the word "culture" into the discussion. Not I.
Culture and heritage are two totally different things. You can be of African descent and have 100% heritage in your veins, and not know ONE thing about the culture of the country or countries from which you descend.

tigernathan

Quote from: Herbie on December 12, 2015, 12:52:05 PM
I don't see what's funny about Kwanzaa though. but mess

tears

You want to be cultured so bad omf

RAY7

Quote from: Herbie on December 12, 2015, 01:01:10 PM
Quote from: inluvwitbran on December 12, 2015, 12:53:22 PM
I NEVER said Kwanzaa was a part of African culture
YOU said African Americans "kii at anything African"
that's where my not seeing an abundance of Black people laughing at African culture came from.

If anything it didn't make sense to mention "anything African"
when Kwanzaa isn't "African" it's "African-American"
African, African American, etc. are all subjective.
If anything African is more factual, I see African American as a label. Not an offensive label, or one that should be closely questioned, but it is a label.

Kwanzaa is a holiday which celebrates and honors AFRICAN heritage.
Not "African American" heritage, which includes the slave rape blood which is in most of our genomes.

You brought the word "culture" into the discussion. Not I.
Culture and heritage are two totally different things. You can be of African descent and have 100% heritage in your veins, and not know ONE thing about the culture.
When you said ppl "kii" at "anything" African
would that not include the culture?

RAY7


tigernathan

Quote from: Boys Don't Cry on December 12, 2015, 12:46:40 PM
Ggg
Afro
>><<
As an African I think I know when something is being made fun of or ridiculed

:uhh:

Herb.

Quote from: imaan. on December 12, 2015, 01:05:25 PM
Quote from: Herbie on December 12, 2015, 12:52:05 PM
I don't see what's funny about Kwanzaa though. but mess

tears

You want to be cultured so bad omf
Are u really still coming at me personally because of Robert?

It's time to put you on ignore. I don't come sideways at you if you shade Toni or Kelly Price, etc.

That's not right. You'd think Robert was your brother or cousin or something. I don't want our interactions to go totally left because I like you so I'd rather end our communication here for now.

Nine

I really didn't know anything about Kwanzaa until this post.

The message seems nice.

Herb.

Quote from: Nine on December 12, 2015, 01:08:50 PM
I really didn't know anything about Kwanzaa until this post.

The message seems nice.
!!!!!!!

:stressed:

I think if more people knew what it stood for, we'd see the point.

It's not our fault that its not THROWN in our face every day like more commercialized holidays.

I only knew of it because we celebrated it every year in church when I was little.

tigernathan

Quote from: Herbie on December 12, 2015, 01:08:20 PM
Quote from: imaan. on December 12, 2015, 01:05:25 PM
Quote from: Herbie on December 12, 2015, 12:52:05 PM
I don't see what's funny about Kwanzaa though. but mess

tears

You want to be cultured so bad omf
Are u really still coming at me personally because of Robert?

It's time to put you on ignore. I don't come sideways at you if you shade Toni or Kelly Price, etc.

That's not right. You'd think Robert was your brother or cousin or something. I don't want our interactions to go totally left because I like you so I'd rather end our communication here for now.

Why is that man on your mind? :everythingok:

This about YOU.

Between the navjo mess and now Kwanzaa fjdjj