Should R&B artists go on strike?

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Herb.

Is it some unknown fact that 'fas deliberately tried to play both sides of the fence with I Am Sasha?

I thought that was pretty obvious.

BAPHOMET.

Quote from: Drais. on December 12, 2015, 08:54:48 PM
Quote from: Herbie on December 12, 2015, 08:52:03 PM
Quote from: Drais. on December 12, 2015, 08:47:08 PM
Quote from: Baphomet. on December 12, 2015, 08:18:50 PM
I am crying out to JESUS. "Halo" and IIWAB were both huge.
Not a ballad making you whitewashed.

See how he limited her to Urban music.

You're wrong. Allow me to break this down.

Your argument was that black people's sales are reflective of what type of music they sing.

I explained that this isn't true as you think.

'fas released what many would consider to be surefire mainstream HITS. Like "Halo" and "If I Were A Boy", etc. they were very "safe" songs.

But none of these songs did nearly as good or solidified her status more than "Single Ladies" did. "Irreplaceable" was kind of a ballad but it was a sassy ballad. Very much a "roll my neck, tell this nigger how it is" song. And it did extremely well for her as well, way better than any of the safer mess she put out.

I'm all for an artist who is multidimensional. I mean I stan for GHan and GODni Braxton. C'mon, give me more credit than that. But you guys seem a little delusional to the fact that people love 'fas more when she's swinging that horse hair around than when she's giving prim proper ballads.

For 90% of them, yes. They all literally sing the exact same record.

And yes even I prefer "aggressive" Beyonc?. What is your point and what does that have to do with anything?

   


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Aggressive in your face Bey >


LOONA.

Quote from: Herbie on December 12, 2015, 08:53:37 PM
People were also sooo sure "XO" was gonna slam. Be honest with yourself when I ask WHY did we think it would smash?

Because it was super safe, and it was very...how do we put it... "pop"?

But yet again, the gorls preferred to see ha dancing around on a beach talking about how she's up all night having sex and riding surf bort's. Hot 100 confirmed this.

It never fails. Do you not see a got damn trend

h

How many of you gurs were running around KI'ing at RTW flopping and labeling it a "Single Ladies" clone? This aint about people preferring some nigger type record over a honky one.

:uhh:

 

COD.

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this entire clip  :kii:
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Kmichelle: You've had 5 record deals....This is your second album... your first debuted at #127....... ok?


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When Tamera reaches over and brushes the hair off Mar's shoulder
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Herb.

Quote from: Herbie on December 12, 2015, 08:58:21 PM
Is it some unknown fact that 'fas deliberately tried to play both sides of the fence with I Am Sasha?

I thought that was pretty obvious.
cuz the gorls are acting like I'm speaking in Swedish or something.

LOONA.

Why wouldn't she

She's an R&B/Pop artist and the I Am side was mostly regular ballads a person of any genre could sing regardless of skin color. 

Your argument is weak

Herb.

December 12, 2015, 09:04:28 PM #171 Last Edit: December 12, 2015, 09:05:16 PM by Herbie
Quote from: Drais. on December 12, 2015, 09:00:38 PM
Quote from: Herbie on December 12, 2015, 08:53:37 PM
People were also sooo sure "XO" was gonna slam. Be honest with yourself when I ask WHY did we think it would smash?

Because it was super safe, and it was very...how do we put it... "pop"?

But yet again, the gorls preferred to see ha dancing around on a beach talking about how she's up all night having sex and riding surf bort's. Hot 100 confirmed this.

It never fails. Do you not see a got damn trend

h

How many of you gurs were running around KI'ing at RTW flopping and labeling it a "Single Ladies" clone? This aint about people preferring some nigger type record over a honky one.

:uhh:

 

We're dealing with facts and numbers here.
Not bSource stan wars.

Fact: Hot 100 loves 'fas more when she's promoting sex , rolling her neck and swinging around weave.
It's not as friendly when she begins going into Adele territory.

Is there something unclear here? Or?

BAPHOMET.

December 12, 2015, 09:05:46 PM #172 Last Edit: December 12, 2015, 09:06:10 PM by Baphomet.
When has Bey ever been just a urban gorl? Even in Destiny's Child and in her debut era.
She makes a blend of both.

It wasn't some master plan.


LOONA.

Quote from: Herbie on December 12, 2015, 09:04:28 PM
Quote from: Drais. on December 12, 2015, 09:00:38 PM
Quote from: Herbie on December 12, 2015, 08:53:37 PM
People were also sooo sure "XO" was gonna slam. Be honest with yourself when I ask WHY did we think it would smash?

Because it was super safe, and it was very...how do we put it... "pop"?

But yet again, the gorls preferred to see ha dancing around on a beach talking about how she's up all night having sex and riding surf bort's. Hot 100 confirmed this.

It never fails. Do you not see a got damn trend

h

How many of you gurs were running around KI'ing at RTW flopping and labeling it a "Single Ladies" clone? This aint about people preferring some nigger type record over a honky one.

:uhh:

 

We're dealing with facts and numbers here.
Not bSource stan wars.

Fact: Hot 100 loves 'fas more when she's promoting sex , rolling her neck and swinging around weave.

Is there something unclear here? Or?

And yet all these other R&B artists are doing it and the charts don't use.

Either way what you're saying is totally irrelevant. 

LOONA.

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Nobody was even arguing or denying what you're talking about, so again......?

It's common knowledge people prefer Bey's uptempos.   

Herb.

Quote from: Baphomet. on December 12, 2015, 09:05:46 PM
When has Bey ever been just a urban gorl? Even in Destiny's Child and in her debut era.
She makes a blend of both.

It wasn't some master plan.

So why separate the discs in I Am Sasha.... ?

You gorls and this oblivious act  :plzstop:

Just admit the gorl wanted to play both sides of the fence.

I mean, Rih tried it too this era with FourFiveSeconds and Bitch Betta Have My Money.

It's pretty simple, and very obvious. What's the big fuss?

Stewie

Quote from: ANIMMAI on December 12, 2015, 08:54:05 PM
Quote from: Stewie on December 12, 2015, 08:51:51 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on December 12, 2015, 07:48:11 PM
I just don't get the obsession some of y'all have with r&b artists selling more :dead:

As long as great music is out there (which it is), why does it matter that other audiences don't use?

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your taste in everything is shitty and you still want brandy rapping  :uhh:
her last three efforts flopped.....those recycled stale ass runs just aren't going to cut it...people are not impressed by that...
she needs to drastically reinvent herself and make people take notice.

and the fact that you think these late ass, unimaginative  drake sounding shit that everyone is doing 'great music' speaks volumes. jkkjkj

tigernathan

I like the discussion in here. :stressed: It's something that needs to be discussed not just by black people but the music industry in general.

People can't support music they don't know about. PERIOD. You can say R&B isn't mainstream all you want but have you listened to Justin Bieber's latest album? It's R&B downe! Do you know Country music has become more R&B influenced? I was shopping a couple of weeks ago and there was this country playlist just blaring throughout the store and it was so R&B.  :plzstop: I gagged and had to Google some of the music! The melodies and even vocals are very R&B influenced. Country is a genre that thrives 'til this day. Their award shows are events and their artists book platinum consistently.

The artists being labeled 'Pop' thrive because they have a push and people KNOW their music. I think the R&B artists have a disadvantage because they don't get promotion but at the same time their people aren't checking for them like that even without the promotion. :stressed: Have you guys noticed that the sites that caters to the blacks are consistently slandering our artists, directors, celebs, etc.? The consensus of "Black Twitter" is built on making fun of our people and our celebs. Every time there's a BET Award show it's all about who can crack the funniest joke or make a meme the fastest for likes and kii's. Basically the presence of BLACK people isn't taken seriously and in turn that effects how their music is being sold. It hurts their marketing as well.

Perhaps we need white people to co-sign R&B the way the way they do with Hip-Hop so the niggas can purchase again! lol! kinda how the Black Lives Matter movement was started by a white man and the niggas followed like SHEEP!

LOONA.

h

What does Beyonc? marketing her music to black & white audiences have to do with anything? And who argued that she doesn't?

:dead:   

BAPHOMET.

Quote from: Herbie on December 12, 2015, 09:08:46 PM
Quote from: Baphomet. on December 12, 2015, 09:05:46 PM
When has Bey ever been just a urban gorl? Even in Destiny's Child and in her debut era.
She makes a blend of both.

It wasn't some master plan.

So why separate the discs in I Am Sasha.... ?

You gorls and this oblivious act  :plzstop:

Just admit the gorl wanted to play both sides of the fence.

I mean, Rih tried it too this era with FourFiveSeconds and Bitch Betta Have My Money.

It's pretty simple, and very obvious. What's the big fuss?


Because it was a theme of Beyonce Vs Sasha.  :uhh:
Not Gimmie those White Sales Vs MmmHmm *Neck Roll* Yeah