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[KenyaMamaDoor]

so ray what's ur point

that Ci would likely be in a better place in her career if she had just did her
and completely ignored and avoided Keri
instead of competing and releasing diss tracks (PARTIALLY) towards her

can you explain in length how this hurt her?


I'm curious

[RAY7]

and putting the song out at the same time was also a competitive move, if not she could've moved her date knowing the drama it would cause

this makes 0 sense


Speechless and Breaking Point have nothing to do with each other. You can't prove anything outside of saying they were released on the same day, which, much like what would happen in a court room, doesn't prove shit.


Ciara ain't competing with someone with no platinum album.

it makes perfect sense they (or maybe their teams,, whatever the case)
both put out songs at the same time clearly with drama already surrounding the 2
obviously

clearly and obviously you haven't given us and ceipts to back this up


I want a file. A document. Sumn shit. No more typing, get to uploading a receipt

your word doesn't carry authority so...

[GRAND ETERNAL SUPREME]

so ray what's ur point

that Ci would likely be in a better place in her career if she had just did her
and completely ignored and avoided Keri
instead of competing and releasing diss tracks (PARTIALLY) towards her

ci was having issues before keri even released a single



u forget the myriad of leaks of her album? the pushbacks because jive was shutting down? her ex manager leaking info about her to blogs?

FORGOT THAT THO HUH?

Im not a stan how would I know that?
but with all that going on, she made matters worse by involving herself in a beef
with another female artist with a solid fanbase
which divided fans and consumers

yeah

im no mya but I know what was going on with her label mess and why she was asian for a moment

so what

[KenyaMamaDoor]

and either way keri is depressed somewhere and still albumless a decade later

just like mya lmao

yeah

didn't keri outsell her too?

lol

I think she did lowkey


Keri also has more recent hits than Mya. No wonder ray got all this time to be worrying about Ci, mya ain't givin the nigga not a SHIT to do ki

[RAY7]

so ray what's ur point

that Ci would likely be in a better place in her career if she had just did her
and completely ignored and avoided Keri
instead of competing and releasing diss tracks (PARTIALLY) towards her

can you explain in length how this hurt her?


I'm curious

her sales (albums, singles declined) , there's a lot of memes/gifs/video clips etc of different ppl clowning her, thats kinda superficial but it applies to any celeb

[KenyaMamaDoor]

The original BI instinct is not SOLEY about Keri

I didnt say it was
Keri's song wasn't SOLELY about Ci, it was about Bey as well
either way she should've just ignored Keri like Bey did

They inserted her into the conversation when Ciara showed up to v103.


Outside of that and that dumb ass ustream, she's never directly spoken on Keri. What point are you trying to prove by saying Ciara should've stayed out of this though? Who cares if she did or didn't, Keri released 2 albums in 2 years, and hasn't mattered outside of those 2 years. What's your point, Raymond?

I used an example of the other artist that Keri was attacking who ignored her and faired better
its so simple. Ci should've followed the Bey example and let Keri stay fuming on her own instead of responding thats the point

You're missing my point


I'll say it again for a 3rd time


In March of 2009 Ciara came to the v103 studio to promote her album, where she found Polow was already at. Then the folks at the station called Keri up and forced Ciara to get involved. It was out of her control


So the option to take the Bey route wasn't there. Even if it were, Ciara addressing Keri in that studio and on U Got Me didn't hurt her. And if you can prove it did, I'm waiting 

[RAY7]

and either way keri is depressed somewhere and still albumless a decade later

just like mya lmao

yeah

didn't keri outsell her too?

lol

I think she did lowkey


Keri also has more recent hits than Mya. No wonder ray got all this time to be worrying about Ci, mya ain't givin the nigga not a SHIT to do ki

yep Keri outsold Mya
and Mya hasn't been putting out ANY music

[KenyaMamaDoor]

and putting the song out at the same time was also a competitive move, if not she could've moved her date knowing the drama it would cause

this makes 0 sense


Speechless and Breaking Point have nothing to do with each other. You can't prove anything outside of saying they were released on the same day, which, much like what would happen in a court room, doesn't prove shit.


Ciara ain't competing with someone with no platinum album.

it makes perfect sense they (or maybe their teams,, whatever the case)
both put out songs at the same time clearly with drama already surrounding the 2
obviously

clearly and obviously you haven't given us and ceipts to back this up


I want a file. A document. Sumn shit. No more typing, get to uploading a receipt

!!

Today I found a $20 bill on the ground

omg its 2020, 20 and 20 :o

Clearly God set that up

gxgggdgdhdgdgzgdg


Ray know he just be on this bitch talkin, with no point in mind   girl, this is AP English over here. Get your fckin thesis statement ready and make it make sense to me nigger

[Navyman]

so ray what's ur point

that Ci would likely be in a better place in her career if she had just did her
and completely ignored and avoided Keri
instead of competing and releasing diss tracks (PARTIALLY) towards her

Get a grip


That shit is a spec of Ci's career. It did nothing, literally bad nor good.

Her album sales went up the following damn album, no one cared about this shit
 

[RAY7]

The original BI instinct is not SOLEY about Keri

I didnt say it was
Keri's song wasn't SOLELY about Ci, it was about Bey as well
either way she should've just ignored Keri like Bey did

They inserted her into the conversation when Ciara showed up to v103.


Outside of that and that dumb ass ustream, she's never directly spoken on Keri. What point are you trying to prove by saying Ciara should've stayed out of this though? Who cares if she did or didn't, Keri released 2 albums in 2 years, and hasn't mattered outside of those 2 years. What's your point, Raymond?

I used an example of the other artist that Keri was attacking who ignored her and faired better
its so simple. Ci should've followed the Bey example and let Keri stay fuming on her own instead of responding thats the point

You're missing my point


I'll say it again for a 3rd time


In March of 2009 Ciara came to the v103 studio to promote her album, where she found Polow was already at. Then the folks at the station called Keri up and forced Ciara to get involved. It was out of her control


So the option to take the Bey route wasn't there. Even if it were, Ciara addressing Keri in that studio and on U Got Me didn't hurt her. And if you can prove it did, I'm waiting 

Ci could've walked out of the interview at v103, or anything
but further more Keri told her that day the song wasn't about her
so she could've definitely took the Bey route from there
but no, she makes a track and disses the girl, upsetting her own fans who probably just wanted good music and Keri fans, adding to the drama and controversy it just was a bad decision

[RAY7]

so ray what's ur point

that Ci would likely be in a better place in her career if she had just did her
and completely ignored and avoided Keri
instead of competing and releasing diss tracks (PARTIALLY) towards her

Get a grip


That shit is a spec of Ci's career. It did nothing, literally bad nor good.

Her album sales went up the following damn album, no one cared about this shit
 

no one cared about what?

[KenyaMamaDoor]

so ray what's ur point

that Ci would likely be in a better place in her career if she had just did her
and completely ignored and avoided Keri
instead of competing and releasing diss tracks (PARTIALLY) towards her

can you explain in length how this hurt her?


I'm curious

her sales

??


Were effected by coming for Keri?  & what solid fanbase does Keri have? Cause they couldn't even give sis 1 platinum skin album


Back up claims about that fanbase too. Waiting lol

[Mel.]

She ATE that verse up.
no shade to the girlies she came for, but she did that

[KenyaMamaDoor]

so ray what's ur point

that Ci would likely be in a better place in her career if she had just did her
and completely ignored and avoided Keri
instead of competing and releasing diss tracks (PARTIALLY) towards her

Get a grip


That shit is a spec of Ci's career. It did nothing, literally bad nor good.

Her album sales went up the following damn album, no one cared about this shit

let Ray tell the story, Keri was neck and neck with all the top r&b girls and was getting #1s and shit. No more revisions Raymund. Keep Ciara name out your posts unless you praisin ha

[GRAND ETERNAL SUPREME]

yeah her sales went up with 'Ciara'

so what r we talking about ray

what happened

was it Ker or what