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[oph.]

like... WHO said gay means you have to pop and twirl and if you dont you must be "in denial" or being "performatively masculine"

like wtf

some of us just are find masulinity (or society's idea of it) sexy. like... i support my fem girls... but im into niggas because im into niggas 

masc4fem niggas exist and i dont hear nobody complaining about that. some fem girls just get mad when a masc nigga don't want them

keep it tf pushing

[Lane Bryant Jumpsuit]

right some guys enjoy masculine energy 
sometimes its no point if it still feels like ur with a female
not all masculine has to mean butch but its just to eliminate the rainbow queens a lil twist in the wrist is okay tbh
i think masc is honestly a range but for sure its not someone showing up in a lace thong and gum smackin and weave pattiing

[CHOKE]

I love it 
And there's a primal energy to it
Like it really feels like a battle for power and dominance 

[CHOKE]

I love it
And there's a primal energy to it
Like it really feels like a battle for power and dominance

ur masc kwee?

Let's roleplay, I'll wear a disguise

[oph.]

!!!!

like, if i want a woman i'll get that. and you can tell its just bitterness

cuz it be the same girls trynna give butch! in their profile mess, but sweeter than a tootsie roll in real life.

finger on chin! head tilted back!

girl stop this

[Arcstrider]

The problem with "masc4masc" is that it focuses primarily on what could be considered "toxic" masculinity. People who say that generally have deep mental issues, I've noticed. A lot of straight guys don't even take themselves that seriously. 

All I need is the average "guy next door" type, and I'm fine.

[Dr Naomi Campbell]

Poor us

[oph.]

The problem with "masc4masc" is that it focuses primarily on what could be considered "toxic" masculinity. People who say that generally have deep mental issues, I've noticed. A lot of straight guys don't even take themselves that seriously. 

All I need is the average "guy next door" type, and I'm fine.

the "guys next door" would be considered masculine tho bby

and im kinda missing your point because its masc 4 masc the keyword being 4. its literally one person saying what they want for themselves. so its confusing to me why anyone else would have anything to say about that

unless they were just bitter that they themselves are not whats on the menu. thats the only thing i can think otherwise why do they care? how does it effect them? lol.

personally, if im not someones type, thats a turn off for me lol next-a!

but to complain 

[oph.]

Poor us

n

don't do that king

let's discuss. i want honest thoughts abd perspective. maybe im missing something

[Barbie Dangerous]

Everyone has a preference and that's fine but it becomes toxic when people look down upon femininity.

[Arcstrider]

The problem with "masc4masc" is that it focuses primarily on what could be considered "toxic" masculinity. People who say that generally have deep mental issues, I've noticed. A lot of straight guys don't even take themselves that seriously. 

All I need is the average "guy next door" type, and I'm fine.

the "guys next door" would be considered masculine tho bby

and im kinda missing your point because its masc 4 masc the keyword being 4. its literally one person saying what they want for themselves. so its confusing to me why anyone else would have anything to say about that

unless they were just bitter that they themselves are not whats on the menu. thats the only thing i can think otherwise why do they care? how does it effect them? lol.

personally, if im not someones type, thats a turn off for me lol next-a!

but to complain 

"Guy next door" is much less restrictive, than what "masc4masc" suggests. From what I've noticed, people who say "masc4masc" focus in on the male archetype, what could be considered traits of "toxic" masculinity.

And it's fine if people want that for themselves, but it does become a legitimate issue beyond a certain point where people should just take a step back and really self-evaluate as to why they feel the way they do.

[oph.]

Everyone has a preference and that's fine but it becomes toxic when people look down upon femininity.

but who's making that implication? just because someone prefers masucline me romantically, it doesn't mean they look down upon femenine men

and again, no one makes that argument when it comes to masc4fem. what is that treated as merely a preference but this isn't?

[Barbie Dangerous]

Everyone has a preference and that's fine but it becomes toxic when people look down upon femininity.

but who's making that implication? just because someone prefers masucline me romantically, it doesn't mean they look down upon femenine men

and again, no one makes that argument when it comes to masc4fem. what is that treated as merely a preference but this isn't?

I agree. I didn't take this thread as you looking down, just a general statement.

[oph.]

The problem with "masc4masc" is that it focuses primarily on what could be considered "toxic" masculinity. People who say that generally have deep mental issues, I've noticed. A lot of straight guys don't even take themselves that seriously. 

All I need is the average "guy next door" type, and I'm fine.

the "guys next door" would be considered masculine tho bby

and im kinda missing your point because its masc 4 masc the keyword being 4. its literally one person saying what they want for themselves. so its confusing to me why anyone else would have anything to say about that

unless they were just bitter that they themselves are not whats on the menu. thats the only thing i can think otherwise why do they care? how does it effect them? lol.

personally, if im not someones type, thats a turn off for me lol next-a!

but to complain 

"Guy next door" is much less restrictive, than what "masc4masc" suggests. From what I've noticed, people who say "masc4masc" focus in on the male archetype, what could be considered traits of "toxic" masculinity.

And it's fine if people want that for themselves, but it does become a legitimate issue beyond a certain point where people should just take a step back and really self-evaluate as to why they feel the way they do.

a legitimate issue to whom? why do they need to evaluate why they feel the way that they do? because you dont agree with it? again its their preference

and what exactly are you categorizing as "toxic" exactly? what are the specific traits that you feel are specifically referred to when it comes to masc 4 masc. because for me its mannerisms and speech, etc.

and again that is not saying its bad or wrong to have feminine mannerisms or speech. simply saying it doesn't make my dick hard.

[oph.]

my thread has nothing to do with what nipsey said