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stillpretty

February 28, 2021, 09:43:09 AM #75 Last Edit: February 28, 2021, 09:48:57 AM by I got Black in my family
He's painting OG as being unreasonable for concluding she's facing colorism/racism/featurism  when those women flat out called her a MONKEY.

like ... am i I the fuckin twilight zone

I'm convinced people like funk don't have black women in their family and have no dark skinned unambiguously  black female friends either  .They've just Been surrounded by exoticals all their life who share their exotical mixed race struggles with them

Nfnfnfnfnf

The lack of empathy whenever he dives into this topic is STUNNING.

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stillpretty

February 28, 2021, 10:42:24 AM #76 Last Edit: February 28, 2021, 10:50:59 AM by I got Black in my family
now I see why he's doing this. being so willfully ignorant about this whole "ugly" thing

he called Blu Ivy "ugly" and ended up apologizing for it

https://www.ebony.com/news/comedian-funky-dineva-sorry-calling-blue-ivy-ugly/

I suspected it but now I think I have enough evidence (between the comments about Blu Ivy, the "ghetto", and this OG mess) to just flat out say it.

he is anti-Black.

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oph.

Quote from: Palladium on February 28, 2021, 06:28:22 AM
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could be anti-blackness

oh so you acknowledge theres a chance that it isnt.
i think funky is at the very least grossly irresponsible for pushing that "it ain't colorism or featurism u just ugly!" Mess . That's very damaging and he should know better . It goes beyond OG . That is something people have used for years to dismiss black women and silence them.

That's at the very least.

ok he isnt talking about in GENERAL, ge talking about this specific instance

he doesn't have a responsibility to represent this situation as colorism even if it isn't just because colorism EXISTS. we need to be able to judge these situations on a cases by case basis.
and he can judge it without using phrases , word for word , which have been used to dismiss black women and their plight.

"It ain't colorism u just ugly"

the phrase is true in THIS instance. thats the point.

ppl often say blk women are being "aggressive" when they are not at all, but in fact are simply standing up for themselves. THATS wrong.

but when a black woman is ACTUALLY being aggressive, im not going to shy away from calling a spade a spade because "oh! they be using that to diminish black women!"

yea they do in many instances, but im not going to let that stop me from calling out a blatantly agressive woman for wgat sge is in THIS instance

Point blank period

ccccccc knew i wasn't crazy bby!!!!!

ppl are really IGNORING the context of OG's interactions in order to say

mistreated! ostracized!

when thats simply NOT the way it went down  :dead:

stillpretty

What do u think of them calling her a monkey?
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Scott.

Yeah, so she was mistreated and ostracized for being the same thing the other women are like l said she was. 

oh and let's also ignore the blatant favoritism as well 

stillpretty

Gvvvvvv

i just wanna know how the gorls feel about her flat out being called a monkey 

how r we gonna justify that part?
maybe she just took it the wrong way cuz she's insecure? 
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Kaeli.

February 28, 2021, 12:00:07 PM #81 Last Edit: February 28, 2021, 12:00:57 PM by Kaeli.
Quote from: Scott. on February 28, 2021, 11:54:10 AM
Yeah, so she was mistreated and ostracized for being the same thing the other women are like l said she was.

oh and let's also ignore the blatant favoritism as well
yea... and OG isn't the first girl either

Tami, Meeka, Kenya and Royce were all ostracized at a point too.... for things that would slide if Evelyn happened to do them

Hm What is the common denominator here

L0NZ.

Quote from: Kaeli. on February 28, 2021, 12:00:07 PM
Quote from: Scott. on February 28, 2021, 11:54:10 AM
Yeah, so she was mistreated and ostracized for being the same thing the other women are like l said she was.

oh and let's also ignore the blatant favoritism as well
yea... and OG isn't the first girl either

Tami, Meeka, Kenya and Royce were all ostracized at a point too.... for things that would slide if Evelyn happened to do them

Hm What is the common denominator here

That Evelyn was best friends with Shaunie, an executive producer? So the whole "Evelyn can do things I cant" isnt because Evelyn is lightskinned?


L0NZ.

Quote from: I got Black in my family on February 28, 2021, 11:57:34 AM
Gvvvvvv

i just wanna know how the gorls feel about her flat out being called a monkey

how r we gonna justify that part?
maybe she just took it the wrong way cuz she's insecure?

One person called her that, and I dont think anyone here disagrees that Evelyn is disgusting and that was colorist/racist.


stillpretty

February 28, 2021, 12:31:38 PM #84 Last Edit: February 28, 2021, 12:33:09 PM by I got Black in my family
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Gvvvvvv

i just wanna know how the gorls feel about her flat out being called a monkey

how r we gonna justify that part?
maybe she just took it the wrong way cuz she's insecure?

One person called her that, and I dont think anyone here disagrees that Evelyn is disgusting and that was colorist/racist.
well if there's even just  one experience that OG had from a woman who is within this group from this show that was EXPLICITLY racist/colorist, how is it unreasonable for OG to conclude that there is even more underlying racism, featurism and colorism with others on the show as well?

How is it fair to say that it may all just be in her own head , a figment of her imagination? And that what she experienced is only because she's "just ugly"?

... when shes actually had explicitly racist/colorist experiences as a result of her participation in this same show?






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oph.

Quote from: I got Black in my family on February 28, 2021, 11:45:09 AM
What do u think of them calling her a monkey?

no one called her a monkey

ev used a lauging monkey emoj' and i can see why she would feel that gave colorist teas

so she can say she thinks ev is a colorist

but groups colorist!

vvvccc try again   :dead:

L0NZ.

because that one person has been rag tagged about that to the point of death threats, and everyone else are different people?


stillpretty

I see .

So it's only colorist/racist if someone speaks it

Imagery doesn't count as a message

So when the crazy stans took this pic of kelly morphed it into a monkey , that wasn't colorist or racist . Cuz they didn't actually say it.

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Takeaways: Be prepared to pivot, even when you think you're on the right track. Be OK with being wrong so you can get things right.

Kalmyks are tribal Mongolic people who settled in Russia. It's estimated that only 300,000 Kalmyk descendants exist worldwide - with only 3,000 in America.



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L0NZ.

Quote from: I got Black in my family on February 28, 2021, 12:49:29 PM
I see .

So it's only colorist/racist if someone speaks it

Imagery doesn't count as a message

So when the crazy stans took this pic of kelly morphed it into a monkey , that wasn't colorist or racist . Cuz they didn't actually say it.



Whats OG's unspoken colorism experience?


stillpretty

That was for oph

who said no one ever called OG a monkey

There's  more than one way to communicate a message :
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Takeaways: Be prepared to pivot, even when you think you're on the right track. Be OK with being wrong so you can get things right.

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