i thought the gorls were being a little harsh on him at first when that whole appropriation thing came up
yall know for the most part i feel if someone is genuinely influenced by the culture why cant they dabble in it a lil. i can hear genuine influence when i listen to bruno mars - down to that "ahhh hooooo" adlib in finesse that was slim from 112 DOWNE. super small things like that ...that most people won't really notice....lets me know how DEEPLY influenced someone is. the intricate teas. and he has them.
but other parts of the album were :uhh: like ok i get why the gorls were tugging
the whole "i got all the shalequas waiting on for me" line in one song made me side eye him. :unsure:
then that song talking about relaxing with a perm and mess....
"u got tah relax it!"
:unsure:
at that point i was like ok. ur not black luv :calmdownsis: stop this.
there has to be a line somewhere
but he is so fucking talented. versace on the floor is fuckin amazing
just those two things really made me side eye him
Oh bitch let me gain 1000 woke points and revive this clip from the dead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDflHjSFqZI
:ohwow:
Quote from: Freemala Harris on June 10, 2021, 09:28:58 PM
Oh bitch let me gain 1000 woke points and revive this clip from the dead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDflHjSFqZI
:ohwow:
sl[,;kps]mjo[snfhipsfubfssfusfubsfubsufbusfbusbubu
But seriously
I think someone said it best (I screamed) when they said he makes nigger karoke music
Its really good but
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHovL2p_04M
But bitch it goes off, so hey. The woke gorls might be right, but it does knock a bit. :cheerup:
Quote from: Freemala Harris on June 10, 2021, 09:32:54 PM
But seriously
I think someone said it best (I screamed) when they said he makes nigger karoke music
Its really good but
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHovL2p_04M
But bitch it goes off, so hey. The woke gorls might be right, but it does knock a bit. :cheerup:
nsdsndnsdsd
i def enjoyed the album.
and see where the hype is from
finesse, 'sace on the floor alone, thats what i like >>>>>>
but the woke gorls are def onto something with his mess too.
I'm sorry but BruNO is so terrible to me
His music is so generic and predictable.... which is a shame because he's really talented (good singer, good producer, multi-instrumentalist, etc). He needs to switch up the formula because that retro! throwback! mess he's been doing for the past 10 years is late.
Do yall know what appropriation is? Bruno isnt appropriating black culture but I'm not gonna get into another one of these convos on here. Why is this all u wanna talk about :dead:
Quote from: Lucid Salvatore on June 10, 2021, 10:01:57 PM
I'm sorry but BruNO is so terrible to me
His music is so generic and predictable.... which is a shame because he's really talented (good singer, good producer, multi-instrumentalist, etc). He needs to switch up the formula because that retro! throwback! mess he's been doing for the past 10 years is late.
Or maybe that's just who he is as an artist. His first album was literally called door wops. He's CLEARLY influenced by earlier genres of music. You just don't like his style and that's ok :plzstop:
He seems genuinely influenced to me, but he's so corny with it.
Quote from: Lucid Salvatore on June 10, 2021, 10:01:57 PM
I'm sorry but BruNO is so terrible to me
His music is so generic and predictable.... which is a shame because he's really talented (good singer, good producer, multi-instrumentalist, etc). He needs to switch up the formula because that retro! throwback! mess he's been doing for the past 10 years is late.
i think the music is actually really good
But like free said it does give negro karaoke .
Quote from: L0NZ. on June 10, 2021, 10:06:22 PM
He seems genuinely influenced to me, but he's so corny with it.
DASSIT! I think the corniness works for him tho. It's clearly working for him actually. Bruni is like the most successful Male singer of this generation lowkey. No other Male artist is seeing his stats fr.
Quote from: L0NZ. on June 10, 2021, 10:06:22 PM
He seems genuinely influenced to me, but he's so corny with it.
thats kinda where I'm at .
I don't think he's a flat out appropriator nor does he intend to do anything malicious. The influence is def real for him .
It's just that part about shalequas waiting on him that rubbed me the wrong way .
Just made me uncomfortable . But for the most part solid talent and I had a few songs on repeat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3y-O-4IL-PU
:cmereddy:
Quote from: Lucid Salvatore on June 10, 2021, 10:01:57 PM
I'm sorry but BruNO is so terrible to me
His music is so generic and predictable.... which is a shame because he's really talented (good singer, good producer, multi-instrumentalist, etc). He needs to switch up the formula because that retro! throwback! mess he's been doing for the past 10 years is late.
yea. I've never understood how he got so successful remaking old shit over and over
and it's annoying because part of it is knowing white ppl are boosting him because he's making urban/soul music but not actually Black
Quote from: RAY7 on June 10, 2021, 10:22:22 PM
Quote from: Lucid Salvatore on June 10, 2021, 10:01:57 PM
I'm sorry but BruNO is so terrible to me
His music is so generic and predictable.... which is a shame because he's really talented (good singer, good producer, multi-instrumentalist, etc). He needs to switch up the formula because that retro! throwback! mess he's been doing for the past 10 years is late.
yea. I've never understood how he got so successful remaking old shit over and over
and it's annoying because part of it is knowing white ppl are boosting him because he's making urban/soul music but not actually Black
listening to the whole album it made even less sense to me that they pushed him into "pop" categories for the Grammys
meanwhile if an actual Black artist would have done an album THAT "black" talking about perms and shalequa waiting on them at the rib shack, it woulda def been put into R&B.
thats kinda where him being racially ambiguous gives him a leg up. and just proves that these awards shows literally throw black people into one bin, no matter what actual genre of music they're making. but others can float around.
really getting into the album put a lot of the points made in this conversation into perspective for real.
i'm not anti-bruno but i def see where a lot of the gorls were coming from now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9NTvCyprsA
Some black artists do get put in Pop categories tho. Lizzo won best pop vocal a couple yrs ago. And her music sometimes gives me a very lite female Bruno.
I don't mind Bruno at all but he is corny. At the same time, it's working for him and been working for him, so there's no need for him to change. I just can't fully get in. I mean, if a black artist is inspired by Madonna and wants to do Pop music, let them. If Bruno grew up around R&B music and wants to do more of that and make it a lil pop, let him. The ones that I have a bigger problem with are the white Justins.
Quote from: FRANCE on June 10, 2021, 10:42:55 PM
Some black artists do get put in Pop categories tho. Lizzo won best pop vocal a couple yrs ago. And her music sometimes gives me a very lite female Bruno.
I don't mind Bruno at all but he is corny. At the same time, it's working for him and been working for him, so there's no need for him to change. I just can't fully get in. I mean, if a black artist is inspired by Madonna and wants to do Pop music, let them. If Bruno grew up around R&B music and wants to do more of that and make it a lil pop, let him. The ones that I have a bigger problem with are the white Justins.
JUSTIN is an appropriator!
Quote from: L0NZ. on June 10, 2021, 10:06:22 PM
He seems genuinely influenced to me, but he's so corny with it.
just googled, apparently he's Jewish........................ you know they run the mess.
Drake has Jewish ties too and look at him. He def AINT THAT DOPE for all this......
but.
His music is so terr
Outside of Black twitter, Bruno is LOVED.
the Black aunties, uncles and legends adore him....along with the rest of the world. :wellheythere:
Quote from: bby ddy on June 10, 2021, 11:35:02 PM
Outside of Black twitter, Bruno is LOVED.
the Black aunties, uncles and legends adore him....along with the rest of the world. :wellheythere:
!!!!!!! :omf:
Quote from: bby ddy on June 10, 2021, 11:35:02 PM
Outside of Black twitter, Bruno is LOVED.
the Black aunties, uncles and legends adore him....along with the rest of the world. :wellheythere:
well the same goes for Tyler Perry and that doesn't stop people here from questioning him
sffsfs
am not holding my tongue for someone who's not even Black at all
but glad to see HE gets backup when needed from the stans
The rest of the world doesn't love Tyler Perry tho. He has a very niche market. Overall he's a joke to MOST people
Tyler Perry's estimated net worth is 600M, Brunos is 170.
If there's a joke, it's not on him.
His work is obviously loved, and obviously lucrative.
f
Being profitable ain't the conversation. Tyler perry is widely known as a joke except to those black fans that love his bullshit. He churns out shit shows and movies at an alarming pace like nothing and the aunties and grandmas that support him are very loyal (like black people tend to be). He is NOT widely loved or respected like bruno mars is
600 Million. The numbers in this case speak for themselves.
really nothing else to say.
Quote from: Vonc2002 on June 10, 2021, 11:55:51 PM
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Being profitable ain't the conversation. Tyler perry is widely known as a joke except to those black fans that love his bullshit. He churns out shit shows and movies at an alarming pace like nothing and the aunties and grandmas that support him are very loyal (like black people tend to be). He is NOT widely loved or respected like bruno mars is
Quote from: clueless on June 10, 2021, 11:56:43 PM
600 Million. The numbers in this case speak for themselves.
really nothing else to say.
you can still be worth a lot of money and still lack quality
McDonald's pull in billions but they're defo not the definition of fine cuisine
And Miguel>>>>>>>
Quote from: FxckDemCrackers on June 11, 2021, 02:30:58 AM
Quote from: clueless on June 10, 2021, 11:56:43 PM
600 Million. The numbers in this case speak for themselves.
really nothing else to say.
you can still be worth a lot of money and still lack quality
McDonald's pull in billions but they're defo not the definition of fine cuisine
not arguing perceived quality
Just referring to numbers and how they relate to how much Tyler Perry is loved and adored any many
But is still subject to criticism and conversation.
Bruno ain't getting a free pass from me . Bdbdbdbdbbd
Quote from: clueless on June 10, 2021, 09:26:44 PM
i thought the gorls were being a little harsh on him at first when that whole appropriation thing came up
yall know for the most part i feel if someone is genuinely influenced by the culture why cant they dabble in it a lil. i can hear genuine influence when i listen to bruno mars - down to that "ahhh hooooo" adlib in finesse that was slim from 112 DOWNE. super small things like that ...that most people won't really notice....lets me know how DEEPLY influenced someone is. the intricate teas. and he has them.
but other parts of the album were :uhh: like ok i get why the gorls were tugging
the whole "i got all the shalequas waiting on for me" line in one song made me side eye him. :unsure:
then that song talking about relaxing with a perm and mess....
"u got tah relax it!"
:unsure:
at that point i was like ok. ur not black luv :calmdownsis: stop this.
there has to be a line somewhere
but he is so fucking talented. versace on the floor is fuckin amazing
just those two things really made me side eye him
:plzstop: :plzstop:
Bruno is a very good performer and showman in general but the music never did it for me
Quote from: RIG 7 on June 11, 2021, 04:19:28 AM
Bruno is a very good performer and showman in general but the music never did it for me
!!
Aside from a few singles
Quote from: Lucid Salvatore on June 10, 2021, 10:01:57 PM
I'm sorry but BruNO is so terrible to me
His music is so generic and predictable.... which is a shame because he's really talented (good singer, good producer, multi-instrumentalist, etc). He needs to switch up the formula because that retro! throwback! mess he's been doing for the past 10 years is late.
not a Nicki stan
Bruno >
I like Bruno, he usually has solid albums.
He can be a little corny, but he's never come off as a culture vulture to me.
I feel like the people who don't like him or think he's cultural appropriating are mad he does black genres of music and has more success with it then black artists do, which I can understand.
Not really his fault though.
Quote from: RIG 7 on June 11, 2021, 04:19:28 AM
Bruno is a very good performer and showman in general but the music never did it for me
Quote from: Nine Fushiguro. on June 11, 2021, 10:01:51 AM
I like Bruno, he usually has solid albums.
He can be a little corny, but he's never come off as a culture vulture to me.
I feel like the people who don't like him or think he's cultural appropriating are mad he does black genres of music and has more success with it then black artists do, which I can understand.
Not really his fault though.
!!!!!!
Quote from: Nine Fushiguro. on June 11, 2021, 10:01:51 AM
I like Bruno, he usually has solid albums.
He can be a little corny, but he's never come off as a culture vulture to me.
I feel like the people who don't like him or think he's cultural appropriating are mad he does black genres of music and has more success with it then black artists do, which I can understand.
thats exactly it
like here he is with Anderson Paak, getting that song to #1
meanwhile the music on Anderson's last album w/Bran & Smokey Robinson etc couldnt even get on the Hot 100
Quote from: bby ddy on June 11, 2021, 10:05:08 AM
Quote from: Nine Fushiguro. on June 11, 2021, 10:01:51 AM
I like Bruno, he usually has solid albums.
He can be a little corny, but he's never come off as a culture vulture to me.
I feel like the people who don't like him or think he's cultural appropriating are mad he does black genres of music and has more success with it then black artists do, which I can understand.
Not really his fault though.
!!!!!!
Never knew he was Jewish tho
Always thought he was Filipino/Black or sum mess
:omgwatshappening:
Quote from: Cartierline on June 11, 2021, 10:32:16 AM
Quote from: bby ddy on June 11, 2021, 10:05:08 AM
Quote from: Nine Fushiguro. on June 11, 2021, 10:01:51 AM
I like Bruno, he usually has solid albums.
He can be a little corny, but he's never come off as a culture vulture to me.
I feel like the people who don't like him or think he's cultural appropriating are mad he does black genres of music and has more success with it then black artists do, which I can understand.
Not really his fault though.
!!!!!!
If Tyler can get called to the carpet for his presentation of Black culture , Bruno def ain't off limits for me.
Wont coddle him but valid points made
Quote from: clueless on June 10, 2021, 11:42:11 PM
Quote from: bby ddy on June 10, 2021, 11:35:02 PM
Outside of Black twitter, Bruno is LOVED.
the Black aunties, uncles and legends adore him....along with the rest of the world. :wellheythere:
well the same goes for Tyler Perry and that doesn't stop people here from questioning him
sffsfs
am not holding my tongue for someone who's not even Black at all
but glad to see HE gets backup when needed from the stans
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Not you comparing a damn Tyler Perry to Bruno :dead:
Quote from: clueless on June 10, 2021, 11:47:36 PM
Tyler Perry's estimated net worth is 600M, Brunos is 170.
If there's a joke, it's not on him.
His work is obviously loved, and obviously lucrative.
Bruno is a musician.....Tyler Perry is a filmmaker who owns his own studio. Two different businesses :plzstop:
I don't expect u to get it as a Tyler critic
Quote from: JCJ on June 11, 2021, 11:49:09 AM
Quote from: clueless on June 10, 2021, 11:47:36 PM
Tyler Perry's estimated net worth is 600M, Brunos is 170.
If there's a joke, it's not on him.
His work is obviously loved, and obviously lucrative.
Bruno is a musician.....Tyler Perry is a filmmaker who owns his own studio. Two different businesses :plzstop:
u do know that black culture and its representation is a larger conversation that can span across multiple industries, right?
Just checking
Quote from: clueless on June 11, 2021, 11:50:45 AM
Quote from: JCJ on June 11, 2021, 11:49:09 AM
Quote from: clueless on June 10, 2021, 11:47:36 PM
Tyler Perry's estimated net worth is 600M, Brunos is 170.
If there's a joke, it's not on him.
His work is obviously loved, and obviously lucrative.
Bruno is a musician.....Tyler Perry is a filmmaker who owns his own studio. Two different businesses :plzstop:
u do know that black culture and its representation is a conversation that can span across multiple industries, right?
Just checking
You're comparing profits from two different industries. I could see if they were both musicians or both filmmakers. Someone with Tyler Perry's job would naturally make more money than a singer. The networth comparison is fallacious. :uhh:
u do know that black culture and its representation is a larger conversation that can span across multiple industries, right?
Just checking
As in, we can talk about black culture in TV and easily make our way to music as well , with relevance still intact
It's not a conversation that must stay confined .
What does that have to do with net worth comparisons
its a valid comparison
not all filmmakers are in Tyler's tax bracket
and the point is they both are successful at what they do regardless of criticism
To say Tyler Perry is a joke to the world is just not true
just because u clearly hate him doesn't take away from his ENORMOUS success
Sorry
Quote from: RAY7 on June 11, 2021, 11:57:20 AM
its a valid comparison
It's not. Use another metric
Quote from: clueless on June 11, 2021, 11:57:36 AM
To say Tyler Perry is a joke to the world is just not true
just because u clearly hate him doesn't take away from his ENORMOUS success
Sorry
You don't even watch his content
Quote from: RAY7 on June 11, 2021, 11:57:20 AM
its a valid comparison
not all filmmakers are in Tyler's tax bracket
and the point is they both are successful at what they do regardless of criticism
right.
Fnnfnfnfnnfnfnf
The gorls try to throw out the "well black grandmas and aunties like Bruno so that's that on that! " card
Well hun I can say the same for Tyler . Does that make him immune to the gorls picking him apart?
The fuck
Can we give Tyler these same "BBQ approved" passes next time he comes up?
Woo! Afro got stomped out in here. :stressed: Luh him tho
I let u have it hun :trannyjblige:
Quote from: JCJ on June 11, 2021, 11:56:23 AM
What does that have to do with net worth comparisons
:omf:
Quote from: Vonc2002 on June 10, 2021, 10:04:51 PM
Quote from: Lucid Salvatore on June 10, 2021, 10:01:57 PM
I'm sorry but BruNO is so terrible to me
His music is so generic and predictable.... which is a shame because he's really talented (good singer, good producer, multi-instrumentalist, etc). He needs to switch up the formula because that retro! throwback! mess he's been doing for the past 10 years is late.
Or maybe that's just who he is as an artist. His first album was literally called door wops. He's CLEARLY influenced by earlier genres of music. You just don't like his style and that's ok :plzstop:
It was called WHAT
Djdhdhfh sounds painful
Quote from: Cartierline on June 11, 2021, 10:32:51 AM
Never knew he was Jewish tho
Always thought he was Filipino/Black or sum mess
:omgwatshappening:
He's Puerto Rican/Jewish/Filipino, but not black
I knew he was Filipino and Puerto Rican but never knew he was Jewish too
:omgwatshappening: