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Title: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: tigernathan on February 13, 2016, 06:55:08 PM
Could the Grammy Awards have their own race problem? The show is coming under huge pressure to diversify its all-white tribute lineup and honor thelate Maurice White.

During Monday?s telecast, Lady Gaga will perform an eight-minute David Bowie tribute, Jackson Browne will honor Glenn Frey and Alice Cooper andJohnny Depp are expected to perform a tribute for Lemmy from Mot?rhead.

But industry insiders are griping that White, of the band Earth, Wind & Fire, and Natalie Cole have been banished to a video tribute package with others who died in the past year.

?Over the last week or so, since Maurice White passed away, there has been back and forth with the producers and the academy about some kind of representation of him during the show. The tributes they?ve confirmed are all white. As of yesterday, there was no tribute at all for Maurice because Grammy producers said they didn?t have time,? one insider told the New York Post.

Meanwhile, another source close to the Grammys said they?re still trying to figure out how to add more diversity to the lineup.

?Maurice White and the group he founded had unprecedented impact on pop culture. After a lot of pressure, producers are trying to figure out how to properly pay tribute to him. It?s still in limbo,? said the insider.

To add fuel to the fire, Run-DMC are set to receive a lifetime achievement award ? but it won?t be televised. ?People are afraid to speak on it because it?s the Grammys. But there?s a history of them not acknowledging black artists,? the first source added.

Billboard recently reported in a ?Confessions of a Grammy Voter? piece, ?The voting bloc is still too white, too old and too male . . . the voters are becoming more diverse in terms of minorities, females and younger ages ? but there?s still a long way to go.?

Grammy reps didn?t get back to the Post by press time.

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2016/02/13/now-grammys-are-under-fire-for-lack-diversity/

I hope they tribute Maurice White :uhh:
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: death on February 13, 2016, 07:00:12 PM
boo frickin hoo

all this whinin'
theres alway BET 'wards
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: yummy on February 13, 2016, 07:00:50 PM
vccc;

this need for inclusion in everything is getting late
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: death on February 13, 2016, 07:01:44 PM
i honesly feel blck ppl should take wat they can get outside of TVone, centric & BET!
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: tigernathan on February 13, 2016, 07:02:05 PM
Billboard:

Do the Grammys Have the Same Diversity Issue as the Oscars?

Black art has long been adopted and exploited by white audiences. Dances like the viral two-step, the Nae Nae, and profitable hip-hip biopics like Straight Outta Compton have magnified diversity issues, especially as the Oscars and the Grammys -- the largest spectacles of film and music -- remain platforms that deny people of color a slot in the winner?s circle.

With as much ruthlessness as an Eazy-E record, critics slammed the list of nominees of the 88th Academy Awards with the help of the hashtag #OscarsSoWhite. Amid the announcement of potential winners, the phrase? -- created by managing editor of BroadwayBlack.com, April Reign -- flooded timelines, highlighting the Academy?s deep-rooted issue with diversity.

According to detractors, this year?s Oscar nods and its egregious snubs largely underrepresent the film industry, highlighting its Caucasian population. People of color (particularly blacks) were noticeably absent, despite pumping out some of the year?s best work (hi, Dope). Black actors like Michael B. Jordan (Creed), Idris Elba (Beasts of No Nations), Samuel L. Jackson (The Hateful Eight), Will Smith (Concussion) and the entire leading cast of the highest grossing music biopic Straight Outta Compton were barred from the big race. Likewise, film directors Ryan Coogler (Creed) and F. Gary Gray (Straight Outta Compton) were omitted from the final list of submissions.

Oscars 2016: Between Lady Gaga, Sam Smith & The Weeknd, Who Has the Best Chance of Winning?

The growing controversy got several celebrities charged up to take action, including Spike Lee, Jada Pinkett-Smith and Will Smith. Pinkett-Smith took to Twitter to express the lack of non-white Oscar nominees. "At the Oscars ... people of color are always welcomed to give out awards ... even entertain," she tweeted. "But we are rarely recognized for our artistic accomplishments. Should people of color refrain from participating all together?"

Later, she revealed she wouldn?t attend the award ceremony via a video announcement posted on Facebook. ?Maybe it is time that we pull back our resources, and we put them back into our communities, into our programs, and we make programs for ourselves that acknowledge us in ways that we see fit that are just as good as the so-called mainstream ones.?

Award shows like the BET Awards, the Soul Train Awards and the NAACP Awards are not just necessary, they?re critical for celebrating and supporting black talent without racial disparities. Despite Fresh Prince actress Janet Hubert taking aim at the Smiths for being ?the system that is unfair to other actors,? Will has lost to other black actors the two times he was nominated for an Oscar -- he was nominated for Ali in 2002 and lost to Denzel Washington for Training Day. In 2007, Forest Whitaker and his role in The Last King of Scotland beat Will Smith and his performance in The Pursuit of Happyness. Smith even took the same defiant yet peaceful approach back in 1989 when he skipped that year?s Grammys, despite scoring the first prize given to a rap artist (best rap performance) for ?Parents Just Don?t Understand.? By the show?s design, the ceremony omitted its rap portion and Smith boycotted.

Will Smith to Join Jada Pinkett in Boycotting 2016 Oscars

Years later, faulty hip-hop categories and non-broadcasted announcements of Grammy winners in these black-leaning spaces are proof positive that a lack of diversity bleeds across industries. "Diversity is the American superpower," Smith declared during his exclusive interview with Good Morning America. "I think that I have to protect and fight for the ideals that make our country, and make our Hollywood community, great. So when I look at the series of nominations for the Academy, it's not reflecting that beauty."

Take, for instance, the 2014 Grammys, when Macklemore?s indie-meets-hipster LP, The Heist, took home best rap album over Kendrick Lamar?s cinematic good kid, m.A.A.d city, arguably a more deserving nominee by the runaway rap king of that particular year. The following year, Iggy Azalea -- an artist often accused by fellow rap artists and critics as an appropriator of black music and culture -- was stacked against the likes of heralded lyricists ScHoolboy Q, Common and Eminem.

Additionally, the upper echelon of recording arts routinely shuts out traditional R&B acts, aiming to showcase only pop phenoms like Beyonc?, Rihanna or Prince and disregard rising stars like Tinashe and runaway hits like Omarion?s ?Post To Be.? Fans saluted this year?s more diverse Grammy lineup -- Kendrick?s long-overdue 11 noms reign served as the ceremony?s redemption song -- but they can expect to catch the winners? names of most rap categories barreling across their screen?s ticker as Kim Kardashian flaunts her post-Saint West bod pre-show.

50 Cent Calls for Chris Rock to Step Down as Oscars Host

The longstanding exclusion of black talent at both the Oscars and the Grammys forces the question: Why? Both institutions are operated on a members-only voting basis, which further urges for the real culprit of this controversy to please stand up. Continuous calls to action ring out from celebrities like 50 Cent and Tyrese, who are begging this year?s Oscars host Chris Rock to abandon his MC duties for the Feb. 28 show. But is it better for people of color with real influence to sit at the table or excuse themselves from the conversation in order to show solidarity and a need for change?

With the overwhelming backlash hogging headlines and timelines, the Oscars and Grammy boards are attempting to clean up their acts. Academy President Cheryl Boone Isaacs announced the "dramatic steps" the Academy will take to diversify its nominations and present a more accurate reflection of the industry?s stars, including a voting membership overhaul. Still, when incredible, high-selling albums like good kid m.A.A.d city and blockbusters like Straight Outta Compton are shut out, fans probably aren?t eager to mull over statements as much as -- to borrow a line from late icon and multi-Grammy winner Whitney Houston -- see the receipts.

?We still need to put pressure on the Hollywood studio heads to make more inclusive and diverse films because the academy can only nominate quality work that has been made,? Reign told The L.A. Times. ?If people of color, marginalized communities, are still being stymied, if we?re still being ignored by the Hollywood studios, then the changes that the academy is making won?t result in people of color and marginalized communities seeing themselves on screen more often.?

Academy Unveils Dramatic Changes to Increase Diversity of Oscars Voters

Both the Oscars and the Grammys acknowledge people of color every few years (see: Lupita Nyong?o). While these trophies are merited and hold a high level of validation for Hollywood and beyond, these wins must be taken with a grain of salt if the industry?s gatekeepers don?t continuously and genuinely applaud the talents of deserving non-white talent across the board.

?I?m very encouraged,? Reign says. ?I think that the changes that will be made will make a significant difference. I appreciate the fact that the vote was unanimous, which indicates to me that the academy is serious about making the organization more inclusive and more diverse.?

Until circumstances change, the #OscarsSoWhite and Grammys backlash is welcomed and warranted. It?s an ongoing problem and discussion best had where the world can participate, weigh in and help diversify the narrative. And if hashtag activism and a socially responsible yet funny monologue are what it takes to allow black creatives to get their just due, so be it.

http://www.billboard.com/articles/events/oscars/6874151/grammys-oscars-diversity-issues

:ohwow: :flamebroiled: :flamebroiled: :flamebroiled: :flamebroiled:
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: throwintheTAL on February 13, 2016, 07:02:22 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on February 13, 2016, 07:00:50 PM
vccc;

this need for inclusion in everything is getting late
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Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: tigernathan on February 13, 2016, 07:02:34 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on February 13, 2016, 07:00:50 PM
vccc;

this need for inclusion in everything is getting late

Maurice White is a legend tho. His influence goes beyond R&B.
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: Mel. on February 13, 2016, 07:03:06 PM
Maurice is getting a tribute
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: BAPHOMET. on February 13, 2016, 07:04:06 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on February 13, 2016, 07:00:50 PM
vccc;

this need for inclusion in everything is getting late
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: FAMÈ on February 13, 2016, 07:04:16 PM
Quote from: Blues trans clue on February 13, 2016, 07:00:12 PM
boo frickin hoo

all this whinin'
theres alway BET 'wards
Watch NONE of these "activist" show up for the ACTUAL nigger awards.
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: Marilyn on February 13, 2016, 07:04:35 PM
I disagree, in general. They widely acknowledge blacks.
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: tigernathan on February 13, 2016, 07:04:56 PM
Quote from: ˈBrʊklᵻn on February 13, 2016, 07:03:06 PM
Maurice is getting a tribute

Receipts? I read he's only going to be a part of the video montage mess.
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: tigernathan on February 13, 2016, 07:05:44 PM
Quote from: Marilyn on February 13, 2016, 07:04:35 PM
I disagree, in general. They widely acknowledge blacks.

Outside of Beyonce, Kanye and some other Hip-Hop artists. They don't.
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: Mel. on February 13, 2016, 07:06:58 PM
Quote from: imaan. on February 13, 2016, 07:04:56 PM
Quote from: ˈBrʊklᵻn on February 13, 2016, 07:03:06 PM
Maurice is getting a tribute

Receipts? I read he's only going to be a part of the video montage mess.

I saw the commercial last night
they were talking about him and David Bowie getting a tribute

someone else but I forgot who it was
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: Buy The Stars✨ on February 13, 2016, 07:07:40 PM
ohh wow .. do we need to boycott this too?
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: tigernathan on February 13, 2016, 07:08:38 PM
Award shows like the BET Awards, the Soul Train Awards and the NAACP Awards are not just necessary, they?re critical for celebrating and supporting black talent without racial disparities. Despite Fresh Prince actress Janet Hubert taking aim at the Smiths for being ?the system that is unfair to other actors,? Will has lost to other black actors the two times he was nominated for an Oscar -- he was nominated for Ali in 2002 and lost to Denzel Washington for Training Day. In 2007, Forest Whitaker and his role in The Last King of Scotland beat Will Smith and his performance in The Pursuit of Happyness. Smith even took the same defiant yet peaceful approach back in 1989 when he skipped that year?s Grammys, despite scoring the first prize given to a rap artist (best rap performance) for ?Parents Just Don?t Understand.? By the show?s design, the ceremony omitted its rap portion and Smith boycotted.

wait Will
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: FUCK Bey on February 13, 2016, 07:14:45 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on February 13, 2016, 07:00:50 PM
vccc;

this need for inclusion in everything is getting late
!!!!!!!!! This is becoming super late. We're starting to look just PATHETIC at this point. I get the Oscars, but the Grammys?

And then the shows that actually HONOR you niggers, yall wont even show up for :uhh:
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: death on February 13, 2016, 07:15:08 PM
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Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: ∧ ∨ ∩ ∪ on February 13, 2016, 07:16:29 PM
American was built on the backs of our ancestors. Why should we continue to allow our history to be shut out? Black Award shows and black owned programs are great but we work just as hard as the majority race if not harder, why shouldn't we receive the same acknowledgement? Boycotting isn't as effective as it was back in the day because 70% majority and 13% Minority.

Something has to give. We can't be 56 removed from the Civil Rights movement and still dealing with the same shit.
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: tigernathan on February 13, 2016, 07:18:38 PM
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Now you faggs are just being late. The Oscars outrage was silly to me but the Grammys lack of diversity is justified. Especially when the whole show has been diluted to showcasing Rock, Country and Pop acts and their wins. You don't see anything wrong with that? :kii: Then y'all want to complain about your flop nigger faves not getting opportunities to promote and their label shitting on them.
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: KING BENTLEY. on February 13, 2016, 07:20:20 PM
Quote from: Trey on February 13, 2016, 07:14:45 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on February 13, 2016, 07:00:50 PM
vccc;

this need for inclusion in everything is getting late
!!!!!!!!! This is becoming super late. We're starting to look just PATHETIC at this point. I get the Oscars, but the Grammys?

And then the shows that actually HONOR you niggers, yall wont even show up for :uhh:
and ki of it is, it's the niggers with money finally realizing that ... well ... they're still niggers

so now they wanna complain and MLK it out and boycott ... and still aren't on the front lines getting killed by police or denied jobs
but for all those years you've been taking slut payments from the white man and skipping black awards events like you're >>>>>>

boo hoo you can't get grammy and oscar nods, and your album didn't win AOTY, nobody wants you in the fashion world
how will you ever stay warm in your mansion that the white man paid for now?
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: yummy on February 13, 2016, 07:20:47 PM
Quote from: Trey on February 13, 2016, 07:14:45 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on February 13, 2016, 07:00:50 PM
vccc;

this need for inclusion in everything is getting late
!!!!!!!!! This is becoming super late. We're starting to look just PATHETIC at this point. I get the Oscars, but the Grammys?

And then the shows that actually HONOR you niggers, yall wont even show up for :uhh:

dfvdv

didn't omarion snapchat himself watching the soul train wards and then whine about not being nominated for a grammy  :kii:
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: FUCK Bey on February 13, 2016, 07:22:33 PM
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Its actually the exact OPPOSITE imo. The Grammys is MUCH more inclusive and fair than the damn Oscars.... :uhh:


Its only the fucking FLOPS complaining about not getting noms. Omarion, ect.  :uhh: :uhh: :uhh:
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: tigernathan on February 13, 2016, 07:23:10 PM
Let's see here

A Grammy Award (originally called Gramophone Award), or Grammy, is an accolade by the National Academy of Recording Arts and Sciences (NARAS) of the United States to recognize outstanding achievement in the music industry. The annual presentation ceremony features performances by prominent artists, and the presentation of those awards that have a more popular interest. It shares recognition of the music industry as that of the other performance arts: Emmy Awards (television), the Tony Awards (stage performance), and the Academy Awards (motion pictures).

vs.

The Soul Train Music Awards is an annual award show which previously aired in national television syndication, and honors the best in Black music and entertainment. It is produced by the makers of Soul Train, the program from which it takes its name, and features musical performances by various R&B and Soul recording artists interspersed throughout the ceremonies.
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: FUCK Bey on February 13, 2016, 07:23:15 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on February 13, 2016, 07:20:47 PM
Quote from: Trey on February 13, 2016, 07:14:45 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on February 13, 2016, 07:00:50 PM
vccc;

this need for inclusion in everything is getting late
!!!!!!!!! This is becoming super late. We're starting to look just PATHETIC at this point. I get the Oscars, but the Grammys?

And then the shows that actually HONOR you niggers, yall wont even show up for :uhh:

dfvdv

didn't omarion snapchat himself watching the soul train wards and then whine about not being nominated for a grammy  :kii:
DSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :uhh:
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: yummy on February 13, 2016, 07:23:34 PM
I'm sorry but this whole mess reeks of victimhood. Cater to the shows who respect your craft and keep it moving.

Begging for validation from these award shows isn't going to change a damn thing.

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Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: Buy The Stars✨ on February 13, 2016, 07:24:20 PM
i do think they need televise all catergories.. i dont get why they exclude those
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: tigernathan on February 13, 2016, 07:27:28 PM
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you guys sound like those white people who tell blacks to get over slavery fjjjj
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: death on February 13, 2016, 07:30:02 PM
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Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: FUCK Bey on February 13, 2016, 07:30:53 PM
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Isnt Kendrick Lamar LEADING with most noms this year?  :uhh:
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: FUCK Bey on February 13, 2016, 07:31:13 PM
Quote from: Blues trans clue on February 13, 2016, 07:30:02 PM
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wat
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Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: throwintheTAL on February 13, 2016, 07:39:30 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on February 13, 2016, 07:23:34 PM
I'm sorry but this whole mess reeks of victimhood. Cater to the shows who respect your craft and keep it moving.

Begging for validation from these award shows isn't going to change a damn thing.

(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lq5cqhgE3U1qjp8ua.gif)
!!!!

they acting like a Grammy is gon be the CURE. Hello, Chrisette Michelle won a Grammy and she's still a fckin flop :plzstop:
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: KING BENTLEY. on February 13, 2016, 07:39:50 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on February 13, 2016, 07:23:34 PM
I'm sorry but this whole mess reeks of victimhood. Cater to the shows who respect your craft and keep it moving.

Begging for validation from these award shows isn't going to change a damn thing.

(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lq5cqhgE3U1qjp8ua.gif)
!!!!!!!!!!!!

QuoteThe origin of the Academy dates back to the beginning of the 1950s Hollywood Walk of Fame project. The Hollywood Chamber of Commerce asked the help of major recording industry executives in compiling a list of people in the music business who should be honored by Walk of Fame stars.[1][2] The music committee, made up of these executives, compiled a list, but as they worked, they realized there were many more talented industry people who would not qualify to be recognized with a Hollywood Boulevard bronze star. The founding committee members included Jesse Kaye, MGM Records; Lloyd Dunn and Richard Jones, Capitol Records; Sonny Burke and Milt Gabler, Decca Records; Dennis Farnon, RCA Records; and Axel Stordahl, Paul Weston, and Doris Day from Columbia Records.[3] This was the start of the Academy and also of the GRAMMY Awards.

it's not even a government organization :dead:
it was made by them, for them, a neighborhood clubhouse tea
:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:

these poor young black artists THINK to be special you need a grammy

forget about "adding diversity"
it wasn't created with diversity in mind so they can KEEP it

by now we have more than enough capable and talented black musicians and music industry execs to start a separate academy. WE set the trends in music moreso than movies. Stop going to the Grammys unless they agree to a COMPLETE overhaul and restarting of the Academy

if not ..... let's start our own shit, just name it something more official than Soul Train :dead:
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: FRANCE on February 13, 2016, 07:39:58 PM
I definitely don't agree that the Grammys lack diversity.
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: throwintheTAL on February 13, 2016, 07:40:48 PM
miguel is paying tribute to Michael Jackson? vvvvvvvvv;

:uhh:
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: death on February 13, 2016, 07:41:38 PM
yucks wtf

they coulda got an'bod'....AN'BOD'!!...n they chose tht faggot

fck it
good luck migay
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: FUCK Bey on February 13, 2016, 07:41:42 PM
Quote from: Francois Lite on February 13, 2016, 07:39:58 PM
I definitely don't agree that the Grammys lack diversity.
ssdssdsdsdsdds Idk what the gorls are talking about.
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: KING BENTLEY. on February 13, 2016, 07:43:08 PM
Quote from: Francois Lite on February 13, 2016, 07:39:58 PM
I definitely don't agree that the Grammys lack diversity.
:dead: did you read who makes up the committee?
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: RAY7 on February 13, 2016, 07:43:23 PM
I've been saying for the past few weeks that the Grammys are just as bad as the Oscars
the Biggest Black artists barely ever win in the general field
Usher has 8 awards and none were ever televised
Bey has 20 awards and only like 2 are in the general categories
but Adele, Sam Smith and Taylor CLEAN UP in the general field
I used to regard the Grammys as the biggest award
but now looking back, they are a mess
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: FUCK Bey on February 13, 2016, 07:44:17 PM
Quote from: FORMATE. on February 13, 2016, 07:43:08 PM
Quote from: Francois Lite on February 13, 2016, 07:39:58 PM
I definitely don't agree that the Grammys lack diversity.
:dead: did you read who makes up the committee?
He's talking about the show overall. Noms, ect.
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: FAMÈ on February 13, 2016, 07:44:26 PM
Bey has 20 awards and only like 2 are in the general

:uhh: wtf
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: KING BENTLEY. on February 13, 2016, 07:45:34 PM
Quote from: inluvwitbran on February 13, 2016, 07:43:23 PM
I've been saying for the past few weeks that the Grammys are just as bad as the Oscars
the Biggest Black artists barely ever win in the general field
Usher has 8 awards and none were ever televised
Bey has 20 awards and only like 2 are in the general categories
but Adele, Sam Smith and Taylor CLEAN UP in the general field
I used to regard the Grammys as the biggest award
but now looking back, they are a mess
!!!!!!!!
and the "urban" categories aren't even judged properly imo
not to mention our music isn't nominated in the proper categories from the get go
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: RAY7 on February 13, 2016, 07:46:05 PM
Quote from: FAM? on February 13, 2016, 07:44:26 PM
Bey has 20 awards and only like 2 are in the general

:uhh: wtf
Single Ladies won Song of the Year I think
and I can't think of the other
IF there is another
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: yummy on February 13, 2016, 07:46:22 PM
Quote from: FAM? on February 13, 2016, 07:44:26 PM
Bey has 20 awards and only like 2 are in the general

:uhh: wtf

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Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: tigernathan on February 13, 2016, 07:46:38 PM
Quote from: Trey on February 13, 2016, 07:44:17 PM
Quote from: FORMATE. on February 13, 2016, 07:43:08 PM
Quote from: Francois Lite on February 13, 2016, 07:39:58 PM
I definitely don't agree that the Grammys lack diversity.
:dead: did you read who makes up the committee?
He's talking about the show overall. Noms, ect.

s

No the fuck we're not. Shitney is on drugs btw.
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: tigernathan on February 13, 2016, 07:48:40 PM
Y'all really acting like a Grammy isn't the biggest accomplishment for an artist outside of a platinum plaque. :dead:

You do know that when an artist is being announced everywhere it's usually "__ time Grammy award winner [artist name]"
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: RAY7 on February 13, 2016, 07:48:40 PM
How can John Legend go #1 with All of Me
but Sam Smith Stay With Me got Song/Record of the Year
and only hit #3. All of Me won remixed recording
and it went to the DJ
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: Mel. on February 13, 2016, 07:50:18 PM
Quote from: inluvwitbran on February 13, 2016, 07:48:40 PM
How can John Legend go #1 with All of Me
but Sam Smith Stay With Me got Song/Record of the Year
and only hit #3. All of Me won remixed recording
and it went to the DJ

cause it's kinda the better song of the two.
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: FUCK Bey on February 13, 2016, 07:51:32 PM
Quote from: imaan. on February 13, 2016, 07:46:38 PM
Quote from: Trey on February 13, 2016, 07:44:17 PM
Quote from: FORMATE. on February 13, 2016, 07:43:08 PM
Quote from: Francois Lite on February 13, 2016, 07:39:58 PM
I definitely don't agree that the Grammys lack diversity.
:dead: did you read who makes up the committee?
He's talking about the show overall. Noms, ect.

s

No the fuck we're not. Shitney is on drugs btw.
d

Rihandjob stole them from her.
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: RAY7 on February 13, 2016, 07:51:57 PM
Quote from: ˈBrʊklᵻn on February 13, 2016, 07:50:18 PM
Quote from: inluvwitbran on February 13, 2016, 07:48:40 PM
How can John Legend go #1 with All of Me
but Sam Smith Stay With Me got Song/Record of the Year
and only hit #3. All of Me won remixed recording
and it went to the DJ

cause it's kinda the better sing of the two.
thats subjective (and of course you jump in for the white guy)
but All Of Me Still should've at least been nominated
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: Mel. on February 13, 2016, 07:54:36 PM
Quote from: inluvwitbran on February 13, 2016, 07:51:57 PM
Quote from: ˈBrʊklᵻn on February 13, 2016, 07:50:18 PM
Quote from: inluvwitbran on February 13, 2016, 07:48:40 PM
How can John Legend go #1 with All of Me
but Sam Smith Stay With Me got Song/Record of the Year
and only hit #3. All of Me won remixed recording
and it went to the DJ

cause it's kinda the better song of the two.
thats subjective (and of course you jump in for the white guy)
but All Of Me Still should've at least been nominated

and of course you try to throw in race.

I've NEVER been a big John Legend fan...that's just it
it has nothing to do with Sam being white. I like Sam more..
why cant I just like someone without it have to be about the color of their skin?

I didn't know it wasn't nominated tho. lol
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: death on February 13, 2016, 07:58:50 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on February 13, 2016, 07:46:22 PM
Quote from: FAM? on February 13, 2016, 07:44:26 PM
Bey has 20 awards and only like 2 are in the general

:uhh: wtf

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Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: ∧ ∨ ∩ ∪ on February 13, 2016, 07:59:00 PM
Tbh it's all about the prestige behind an award. If the BET Award was more exclusive and had a dress code, it could definitely be what we need.
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: RAY7 on February 13, 2016, 07:59:09 PM
Quote from: ˈBrʊklᵻn on February 13, 2016, 07:54:36 PM
Quote from: inluvwitbran on February 13, 2016, 07:51:57 PM
Quote from: ˈBrʊklᵻn on February 13, 2016, 07:50:18 PM
Quote from: inluvwitbran on February 13, 2016, 07:48:40 PM
How can John Legend go #1 with All of Me
but Sam Smith Stay With Me got Song/Record of the Year
and only hit #3. All of Me won remixed recording
and it went to the DJ

cause it's kinda the better sing of the two.
thats subjective (and of course you jump in for the white guy)
but All Of Me Still should've at least been nominated

and of course you try to throw in race.

I've NEVER been a big John Legend fan...that's just it
it has nothing to do with Sam being white. I like Sam more..
why cant I just like someone without it have to be about the color of their skin?

I didn't know it wasn't nominated tho. lol
lol the thread is about race
and you always pick white artists or K-Pop over Blacks
except Brandy & Chris but I digress
yea it should have at least gotten a nod they were equally big and impactful
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: throwintheTAL on February 13, 2016, 08:00:14 PM
Quote from: imaan. on February 13, 2016, 07:48:40 PM
Y'all really acting like a Grammy isn't the biggest accomplishment for an artist outside of a platinum plaque. :dead:

You do know that when an artist is being announced everywhere it's usually "__ time Grammy award winner [artist name]"
That doesn't guarantee they'll get booked for interviews/performances :plzstop: this logic
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: BAPHOMET. on February 13, 2016, 08:01:16 PM
Quote from: M?rg??l?l?. on February 13, 2016, 07:59:00 PM
Tbh it's all about the prestige behind an award. If the BET Award was more exclusive and had a dress code, it could definitely be what we need.

!!! Yea, am not trying to sound like a coon or something but...

TBH. Its a bunch of factors. BET in general has gone down.

(http://i.imgur.com/ykoke9V.jpg)
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: yummy on February 13, 2016, 08:02:28 PM
Quote from: M?rg??l?l?. on February 13, 2016, 07:59:00 PM
If the BET Award was more exclusive and had a dress code, it could definitely be what we need.

:dead:

so, in other words, it should be more palatable to non-black audiences? that reeks of respectability politics.

I don't understand why it's so hard to just celebrate our own. it shouldn't have to be approved by whites.
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: RAY7 on February 13, 2016, 08:05:30 PM
Quote from: Baphomet. on February 13, 2016, 08:01:16 PM
Quote from: M?rg??l?l?. on February 13, 2016, 07:59:00 PM
Tbh it's all about the prestige behind an award. If the BET Award was more exclusive and had a dress code, it could definitely be what we need.

!!! Yea, am not trying to sound like a coon or something but...

TBH. Its a bunch of factors. BET in general has gone down.

(http://i.imgur.com/ykoke9V.jpg)
MTV went down too literally HITS reported they are struggling
but BET Awards is always a great show
full of talent & memorable performances
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: BAPHOMET. on February 13, 2016, 08:05:54 PM
Something about the BET awards changed around 2008 or '9.
It kinda lost some magic. Could be because most of everyone is flop now. IDK
I do wish it could get back to whatever it lost. I used to love it back in the day.
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: FUCK Bey on February 13, 2016, 08:07:25 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on February 13, 2016, 08:02:28 PM
Quote from: M?rg??l?l?. on February 13, 2016, 07:59:00 PM
If the BET Award was more exclusive and had a dress code, it could definitely be what we need.

:dead:

so, in other words, it should be more palatable to non-black audiences? that reeks of respectability politics.

it shouldn't have to be approved by whites.
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Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: Mel. on February 13, 2016, 08:10:57 PM
Quote from: inluvwitbran on February 13, 2016, 07:59:09 PM
Quote from: ˈBrʊklᵻn on February 13, 2016, 07:54:36 PM
Quote from: inluvwitbran on February 13, 2016, 07:51:57 PM
Quote from: ˈBrʊklᵻn on February 13, 2016, 07:50:18 PM
Quote from: inluvwitbran on February 13, 2016, 07:48:40 PM
How can John Legend go #1 with All of Me
but Sam Smith Stay With Me got Song/Record of the Year
and only hit #3. All of Me won remixed recording
and it went to the DJ

cause it's kinda the better sing of the two.
thats subjective (and of course you jump in for the white guy)
but All Of Me Still should've at least been nominated

and of course you try to throw in race.

I've NEVER been a big John Legend fan...that's just it
it has nothing to do with Sam being white. I like Sam more..
why cant I just like someone without it have to be about the color of their skin?

I didn't know it wasn't nominated tho. lol
lol the thread is about race
and you always pick white artists or K-Pop over Blacks
except Brandy & Chris but I digress
yea it should have at least gotten a nod they were equally big and impactful

but I'm talking about the SONGS.
and why I think "Stay With Me" is the better one...doesn't mean I'm putting a white guy over a black one
I just think Sam happened to have the better song that resonated with people more

and I'm not gonna even go there about the other stuff you named
that's what YOU CHOOSE to think. that's on you
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: RAY7 on February 13, 2016, 08:13:32 PM
Quote from: ˈBrʊklᵻn on February 13, 2016, 08:10:57 PM
Quote from: inluvwitbran on February 13, 2016, 07:59:09 PM
Quote from: ˈBrʊklᵻn on February 13, 2016, 07:54:36 PM
Quote from: inluvwitbran on February 13, 2016, 07:51:57 PM
Quote from: ˈBrʊklᵻn on February 13, 2016, 07:50:18 PM
Quote from: inluvwitbran on February 13, 2016, 07:48:40 PM
How can John Legend go #1 with All of Me
but Sam Smith Stay With Me got Song/Record of the Year
and only hit #3. All of Me won remixed recording
and it went to the DJ

cause it's kinda the better sing of the two.
thats subjective (and of course you jump in for the white guy)
but All Of Me Still should've at least been nominated

and of course you try to throw in race.

I've NEVER been a big John Legend fan...that's just it
it has nothing to do with Sam being white. I like Sam more..
why cant I just like someone without it have to be about the color of their skin?

I didn't know it wasn't nominated tho. lol
lol the thread is about race
and you always pick white artists or K-Pop over Blacks
except Brandy & Chris but I digress
yea it should have at least gotten a nod they were equally big and impactful

but I'm talking about the SONGS.
and why I think "Stay With Me" is the better one...doesn't mean I'm putting a white guy over a black one
I just think Sam happened to have the better song that resonated with people more

and I'm not gonna even go there about the other stuff you named
that's what YOU CHOOSE to think. that's on you
you just said
you aren't a John Legend fan, that's not saying anything about the song
but if you don't want to go there we won't
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: Zankou. on February 13, 2016, 08:18:36 PM
Quote from: Trey on February 13, 2016, 07:51:32 PM
Quote from: imaan. on February 13, 2016, 07:46:38 PM
Quote from: Trey on February 13, 2016, 07:44:17 PM
Quote from: FORMATE. on February 13, 2016, 07:43:08 PM
Quote from: Francois Lite on February 13, 2016, 07:39:58 PM
I definitely don't agree that the Grammys lack diversity.
:dead: did you read who makes up the committee?
He's talking about the show overall. Noms, ect.

s

No the fuck we're not. Shitney is on drugs btw.
d

Rihandjob stole them from her.

Girl she doesn't Stan for rih :uhh:
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: throwintheTAL on February 13, 2016, 08:18:45 PM
Quote from: Baphomet. on February 13, 2016, 08:05:54 PM
Something about the BET awards changed around 2008 or '9.
It kinda lost some magic. Could be because most of everyone is flop now. IDK
I do wish it could get back to whatever it lost. I used to love it back in the day.
That's around the same time they stopped playing Urban music on Pop radio for good, so  :dead: yeah
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: Kurama on February 13, 2016, 08:20:46 PM
lolz

:welllol:
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: FUCK Bey on February 13, 2016, 08:26:21 PM
Quote from: Saturn. on February 13, 2016, 08:18:36 PM
Quote from: Trey on February 13, 2016, 07:51:32 PM
Quote from: imaan. on February 13, 2016, 07:46:38 PM
Quote from: Trey on February 13, 2016, 07:44:17 PM
Quote from: FORMATE. on February 13, 2016, 07:43:08 PM
Quote from: Francois Lite on February 13, 2016, 07:39:58 PM
I definitely don't agree that the Grammys lack diversity.
:dead: did you read who makes up the committee?
He's talking about the show overall. Noms, ect.

s

No the fuck we're not. Shitney is on drugs btw.
d

Rihandjob stole them from her.

Girl she doesn't Stan for rih :uhh:
g

I said what I fucking said. Now MOVE before I lash Mon'!!!  :uhh:

Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: FUCK Bey on February 13, 2016, 08:27:04 PM
Quote from: sumcatbroad on February 13, 2016, 08:18:45 PM
Quote from: Baphomet. on February 13, 2016, 08:05:54 PM
Something about the BET awards changed around 2008 or '9.
It kinda lost some magic. Could be because most of everyone is flop now. IDK
I do wish it could get back to whatever it lost. I used to love it back in the day.
That's around the same time they stopped playing Urban music on Pop radio for good, so  :dead: yeah
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Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: death on February 13, 2016, 08:27:46 PM
Quote from: Trey on February 13, 2016, 08:26:21 PM
Quote from: Saturn. on February 13, 2016, 08:18:36 PM
Quote from: Trey on February 13, 2016, 07:51:32 PM
Quote from: imaan. on February 13, 2016, 07:46:38 PM
Quote from: Trey on February 13, 2016, 07:44:17 PM
Quote from: FORMATE. on February 13, 2016, 07:43:08 PM
Quote from: Francois Lite on February 13, 2016, 07:39:58 PM
I definitely don't agree that the Grammys lack diversity.
:dead: did you read who makes up the committee?
He's talking about the show overall. Noms, ect.

s

No the fuck we're not. Shitney is on drugs btw.
d

Rihandjob stole them from her.

Girl she doesn't Stan for rih :uhh:
g

I said what I fucking said. Now MOVE before I lash Mon'!!!  :uhh:
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Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: throwintheTAL on February 13, 2016, 08:35:54 PM
Quote from: Trey on February 13, 2016, 08:26:21 PM
Quote from: Saturn. on February 13, 2016, 08:18:36 PM
Quote from: Trey on February 13, 2016, 07:51:32 PM
Quote from: imaan. on February 13, 2016, 07:46:38 PM
Quote from: Trey on February 13, 2016, 07:44:17 PM
Quote from: FORMATE. on February 13, 2016, 07:43:08 PM
Quote from: Francois Lite on February 13, 2016, 07:39:58 PM
I definitely don't agree that the Grammys lack diversity.
:dead: did you read who makes up the committee?
He's talking about the show overall. Noms, ect.

s

No the fuck we're not. Shitney is on drugs btw.
d

Rihandjob stole them from her.

Girl she doesn't Stan for rih :uhh:
g

I said what I fucking said. Now MOVE before I lash Mon'!!!  :uhh:
is brandons ok

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Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: Zankou. on February 13, 2016, 08:49:22 PM
Quote from: Trey on February 13, 2016, 08:26:21 PM
Quote from: Saturn. on February 13, 2016, 08:18:36 PM
Quote from: Trey on February 13, 2016, 07:51:32 PM
Quote from: imaan. on February 13, 2016, 07:46:38 PM
Quote from: Trey on February 13, 2016, 07:44:17 PM
Quote from: FORMATE. on February 13, 2016, 07:43:08 PM
Quote from: Francois Lite on February 13, 2016, 07:39:58 PM
I definitely don't agree that the Grammys lack diversity.
:dead: did you read who makes up the committee?
He's talking about the show overall. Noms, ect.

s

No the fuck we're not. Shitney is on drugs btw.
d

Rihandjob stole them from her.

Girl she doesn't Stan for rih :uhh:
g

I said what I fucking said. Now MOVE before I lash Mon'!!!  :uhh:


n

Im so scareds!

Boy fuck u and Britney's dead ass
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: KING BENTLEY. on February 13, 2016, 08:52:01 PM
Quote from: Blues trans clue on February 13, 2016, 08:27:46 PM
Quote from: Trey on February 13, 2016, 08:26:21 PM
Quote from: Saturn. on February 13, 2016, 08:18:36 PM
Quote from: Trey on February 13, 2016, 07:51:32 PM
Quote from: imaan. on February 13, 2016, 07:46:38 PM
Quote from: Trey on February 13, 2016, 07:44:17 PM
Quote from: FORMATE. on February 13, 2016, 07:43:08 PM
Quote from: Francois Lite on February 13, 2016, 07:39:58 PM
I definitely don't agree that the Grammys lack diversity.
:dead: did you read who makes up the committee?
He's talking about the show overall. Noms, ect.

s

No the fuck we're not. Shitney is on drugs btw.
d

Rihandjob stole them from her.

Girl she doesn't Stan for rih :uhh:
g

I said what I fucking said. Now MOVE before I lash Mon'!!!  :uhh:
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sssssss

wow that Saturn member really got lashed

this place is exciting
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: Zankou. on February 13, 2016, 08:55:36 PM
Hey Bentley! Did tweet kill herself yet?
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: KING BENTLEY. on February 13, 2016, 09:01:55 PM
my goodness
:diddraispoot:
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: FINE. on February 13, 2016, 09:03:20 PM
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Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: yummy on February 13, 2016, 09:05:56 PM
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Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: yummy on February 13, 2016, 09:06:57 PM
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Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: throwintheTAL on February 13, 2016, 09:12:48 PM
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where's the pic with the stretch marks
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: RAY7 on February 13, 2016, 09:18:57 PM
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Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: LOONA. on February 13, 2016, 09:20:09 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on February 13, 2016, 09:06:57 PM
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Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: FRANCE on February 13, 2016, 09:25:36 PM
Quote from: Trey on February 13, 2016, 07:41:42 PM
Quote from: Francois Lite on February 13, 2016, 07:39:58 PM
I definitely don't agree that the Grammys lack diversity.
ssdssdsdsdsdds Idk what the gorls are talking about.

MANY black artists have won Grammys. Very few black actors have won Oscars. Isn't Kendrick and The Weeknd leading with the most Grammy noms? Didn't A Keys rack up 6 nominations one year and India Arie 7? The Grammys may not be pro black but every single year, a country artist wins a grammy. A black, a white, a hispanic, all different genres. Oscars are on a whole different level of prejudice when it comes to diversity. Let's not act like black artists have never won in major categories.
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: death on February 13, 2016, 09:30:05 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on February 13, 2016, 09:06:57 PM
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u wann' me to take one of those cigs n burn ur eye out faggot
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: downtownbrown on February 13, 2016, 09:42:36 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on February 13, 2016, 07:00:50 PM
vccc;

this need for inclusion in everything is getting late

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Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: .betterwiseup on February 13, 2016, 09:49:13 PM
Just like the Oscars.
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: whatever on February 14, 2016, 12:07:49 AM
They do lack some diversity problems. Yes Maurice should get a tribute. But besides that I don't think too many blacks dominated this year.

It all goes back to the record labels, radio program directors, and music.

Also BET needs to do better also. If they weren't so predictable then they would be more respected.

Beyonce can have a 4 year old live song win lmao just because they want her to show up..
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: SUPREME on February 14, 2016, 12:17:03 AM
Quote from: Saturn. on February 13, 2016, 08:55:36 PM
Hey Bentley! Did tweet kill herself yet?
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Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: SUPREME on February 14, 2016, 12:17:32 AM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on February 13, 2016, 09:06:57 PM
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Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: BigDawg on February 14, 2016, 12:31:07 AM
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Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: RekeRig on February 14, 2016, 11:57:08 AM
didn't have time? at least put the mans face on a screen or something  :uhh: :dead:
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: Herb. on February 14, 2016, 11:58:37 AM
Quote from: inluvwitbran on February 13, 2016, 07:51:57 PM
Quote from: ˈBrʊklᵻn on February 13, 2016, 07:50:18 PM
Quote from: inluvwitbran on February 13, 2016, 07:48:40 PM
How can John Legend go #1 with All of Me
but Sam Smith Stay With Me got Song/Record of the Year
and only hit #3. All of Me won remixed recording
and it went to the DJ

cause it's kinda the better sing of the two.
thats subjective (and of course you jump in for the white guy)

oh shit :omgwatshappening:
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: RekeRig on February 14, 2016, 12:00:29 PM
and yea i dont take FLOPS like Omarion seriously

go to where you're being honored first, before screaming about a grammy nom. fake ass
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: Herb. on February 14, 2016, 12:02:42 PM
Quote from: BigDawg on February 14, 2016, 12:31:07 AM
[instagram]https://www.instagram.com/p/y6f4QHtM9C/[/instagram]
I can't believe Will Smith was even old enough to boycott anything in 1989
he has aged beautifully

book @ Flavor Flav being front and center  :plzstop: he really is legendary i guess
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: yekim on February 14, 2016, 12:09:01 PM
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Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: Boomz on February 14, 2016, 12:15:45 PM
n
This is a bit silly.

Aretha, MJ, Stevie, Bey, Jay, Alica Keys & Kanye are among the most awarded in history.

The Grams' have become more white leaning only in the last 8 years. And that's more a reflection of how WHITE, radio has become (still annoyed "Hello" gets heavy airplay on urban stations). The Grammys, in recent years, has become more and more about who is being played on radio, like the Billboard Awards, which sucks because that ends up leaving out a lot of deserving black artist. It starts with radio.

The Oscars have a 86 year history of non-inclusion. Not the same.


Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: tigernathan on February 14, 2016, 04:29:16 PM
Quote from: Boomer on February 14, 2016, 12:15:45 PM
n
This is a bit silly.

Aretha, MJ, Stevie, Bey, Jay, Alica Keys & Kanye are among the most awarded in history.

The Grams' have become more white leaning only in the last 8 years. And that's more a reflection of how WHITE, radio has become (still annoyed "Hello" gets heavy airplay on urban stations). The Grammys, in recent years, has become more and more about who is being played on radio, like the Billboard Awards, which sucks because that ends up leaving out a lot of deserving black artist. It starts with radio.

The Oscars have a 86 year history of non-inclusion. Not the same.

gor stfu :uhh:
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: Boomz on February 14, 2016, 04:33:31 PM
Where is the damn lie?
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: RAY7 on February 14, 2016, 04:38:35 PM
Quote from: Boomer on February 14, 2016, 12:15:45 PM
n
This is a bit silly.

Aretha, MJ, Stevie, Bey, Jay, Alica Keys & Kanye are among the most awarded in history.

The Grams' have become more white leaning only in the last 8 years. And that's more a reflection of how WHITE, radio has become (still annoyed "Hello" gets heavy airplay on urban stations). The Grammys, in recent years, has become more and more about who is being played on radio, like the Billboard Awards, which sucks because that ends up leaving out a lot of deserving black artist. It starts with radio.

The Oscars have a 86 year history of non-inclusion. Not the same.
out of the 7 names you listed only 2 have won Album of the Year
on the surface it looks great cuz they win a lot
but they really just throw them all the same best R&B vocal awards every year and give the general Album/Record/Song of the year awards to the whites
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: Boomz on February 14, 2016, 05:01:33 PM
Quote from: inluvwitbran on February 14, 2016, 04:38:35 PM
Quote from: Boomer on February 14, 2016, 12:15:45 PM
n
This is a bit silly.

Aretha, MJ, Stevie, Bey, Jay, Alica Keys & Kanye are among the most awarded in history.

The Grams' have become more white leaning only in the last 8 years. And that's more a reflection of how WHITE, radio has become (still annoyed "Hello" gets heavy airplay on urban stations). The Grammys, in recent years, has become more and more about who is being played on radio, like the Billboard Awards, which sucks because that ends up leaving out a lot of deserving black artist. It starts with radio.

The Oscars have a 86 year history of non-inclusion. Not the same.
out of the 7 names you listed only 2 have won Album of the Year
on the surface it looks great cuz they win a lot
but they really just throw them all the same best R&B vocal awards every year and give the general Album/Record/Song of the year awards to the whites
This is very true NOW.

But Stevie & Aretha ran the Grammy's in the 60's & 70's. Micheal in the 80's. Prince, Whitney & Janet won 4 or 5 that decade. Seal won Record and Song of the Year at the same ceremony in '95. Lauryn won Album of the Year later in the decade.

I don't know...we've been pretty celebrated in at the Grams, overall. Of course there have been some snubs.

Y'all don't see how wins coincide with airplay, these days? Jazmine deserves every award she's nominated for this year but I'm scared because outside of the R&B lovers, who on the committee is gonna vote for her? Because she didn't have radio hit this era. No known single that people can attach to the album and say "Omg! That's right! Reality Show was a great album!"
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: tigernathan on February 14, 2016, 05:04:04 PM
We're not celebrated by the Grammys! Stop the lies. Just because your fave has many awards isn't any indication. They snub traditional black artists EVERY time.
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: One Of Those Nights. on February 14, 2016, 05:04:43 PM
We need to get over this. We look like complainers. It is actually going to take back the progress we are making at the Oscars and make us look like we bitch about everything.

Blacks are some of the most awarded artists at the Grammy's. Beyonce has 17 fucking Grammy's for fucks sake.

The host has been black (LL Cool J) for HOW many years now?

The tribute this year is to a black man and before he died, his group Earth, Wind, and Fire were already getting the legend award.

Now, the Oscars is a no brainer. They throw blacks a scrap every once in a while to keep us quiet.

But the Grammy's? Shuddup.
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: One Of Those Nights. on February 14, 2016, 05:05:26 PM
Quote from: Boomer on February 14, 2016, 12:15:45 PM
n
This is a bit silly.

Aretha, MJ, Stevie, Bey, Jay, Alica Keys & Kanye are among the most awarded in history.

The Grams' have become more white leaning only in the last 8 years. And that's more a reflection of how WHITE, radio has become (still annoyed "Hello" gets heavy airplay on urban stations). The Grammys, in recent years, has become more and more about who is being played on radio, like the Billboard Awards, which sucks because that ends up leaving out a lot of deserving black artist. It starts with radio.

The Oscars have a 86 year history of non-inclusion. Not the same.

There you have it!
:cheerup:
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: FINE. on February 14, 2016, 05:05:46 PM
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Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: Admin on February 14, 2016, 05:06:04 PM
The committee don't know shit about music.
I still can't believe "Ashanti" won over "Full Moon" :uhh:
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: BigDawg on February 14, 2016, 05:06:31 PM
Quote from: Herbie on February 14, 2016, 12:02:42 PM
Quote from: BigDawg on February 14, 2016, 12:31:07 AM
[instagram]https://www.instagram.com/p/y6f4QHtM9C/[/instagram]
I can't believe Will Smith was even old enough to boycott anything in 1989
he has aged beautifully

book @ Flavor Flav being front and center  :plzstop: he really is legendary i guess
!!!
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: One Of Those Nights. on February 14, 2016, 05:07:32 PM
Quote from: squid on February 14, 2016, 05:06:04 PM
The committee don't know shit about music.
I still can't believe "Ashanti" won over "Full Moon" :uhh:

I am still bitter to this day..
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: Boomz on February 14, 2016, 05:10:59 PM
Ain't got shit to do with my fave. In fact, Self-Titled being snubbed for AOTY to fukin Beck is reason for me to be on your side of the argument. :kii:

But I'm not gonna sit here and say they've PAID us throughout history. It ain't true!
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: One Of Those Nights. on February 14, 2016, 05:12:57 PM
Quote from: Boomer on February 14, 2016, 05:10:59 PM
Ain't got shit to do with my fave. In fact, Self-Titled being snubbed for AOTY to fukin Beck is reason for me to be on your side of the argument. :kii:

But I'm not gonna sit here and say they've PAID us throughout history. It ain't true!

!!

I mean, I can understand if you wanna bitch that they show Asian artists no love, but us?! I mean, besides whites, we are the most celebrated at the Grammy's. Asians, Indians, and maybe Mexicans can be pissed but now we just seem like whiners.
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: MelMel on February 14, 2016, 05:14:37 PM
yeah if Taylor wins tomorrow they are racist
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: tigernathan on February 14, 2016, 05:14:45 PM
Black culture is integrated into American culture, dummy. Asian, Mexican etc. aren't!
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: One Of Those Nights. on February 14, 2016, 05:16:01 PM
Quote from: imaan. on February 14, 2016, 05:14:45 PM
Black culture is integrated into American culture, dummy. Asian, Mexican etc. aren't!

Dumb bitch, aren't you not even from America?

Have you been to New York, California, Arizona, Florida, etc.

There are more Latin radio stations and televisions stations in the United States than any other minority station.

Dummy  :kii: :uhh:
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: tigernathan on February 14, 2016, 05:18:50 PM
Born and raised here :uhh:

There are Latin categories at the Grammys, you retard :uhh:
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: One Of Those Nights. on February 14, 2016, 05:22:25 PM
Quote from: imaan. on February 14, 2016, 05:18:50 PM
Born and raised here :uhh:

There are Latin categories at the Grammys, you retard :uhh:

Exactly. Thanks for proving my point. The Grammy's celebrate diversity.

R. Kelly has won 3 Grammy's and been nominated 25 times. Guess they just hate the blacks.  :usuresis:
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: tigernathan on February 14, 2016, 05:27:29 PM
Quote from: One Of Those Nights. on February 14, 2016, 05:22:25 PM
Quote from: imaan. on February 14, 2016, 05:18:50 PM
Born and raised here :uhh:

There are Latin categories at the Grammys, you retard :uhh:

Exactly. Thanks for proving my point. The Grammy's celebrate diversity.

R. Kelly has won 3 Grammy's and been nominated 25 times. Guess they just hate the blacks.  :usuresis:

Yea, they do hate blacks. Thanks for proving MY point.
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: KING BENTLEY. on February 14, 2016, 05:30:02 PM
sssss

Boom' you named 7 artists ..... out of how many years the grams been going
:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: One Of Those Nights. on February 14, 2016, 05:30:49 PM
Quote from: imaan. on February 14, 2016, 05:27:29 PM
Quote from: One Of Those Nights. on February 14, 2016, 05:22:25 PM
Quote from: imaan. on February 14, 2016, 05:18:50 PM
Born and raised here :uhh:

There are Latin categories at the Grammys, you retard :uhh:

Exactly. Thanks for proving my point. The Grammy's celebrate diversity.

R. Kelly has won 3 Grammy's and been nominated 25 times. Guess they just hate the blacks.  :usuresis:

Yea, they do hate blacks. Thanks for proving MY point.

LOL

Keep complaining.

Quincy Jones, Stevie Wonder, Beyonce, Kanye West, Ray Charles, Aretha Franklin, Alicia Keys, BB King, Michael Jackson, Natalie Cole, Usher, Tina Turner, and more have the most Grammy winners of all of the winners.

Just hate those blacks they do!
:sobusyjetsetter:
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: tigernathan on February 14, 2016, 05:32:15 PM
Quote from: FORMATE. on February 14, 2016, 05:30:02 PM
sssss

Boom' you named 7 artists ..... out of how many years the grams been going
:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:

:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: Lane Bryant Jumpsuit on February 14, 2016, 05:40:26 PM
Only whites slay in acting
Even the 2 facial expresion ones
And only whites can sing and make hit music

Get with it
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: Boomz on February 14, 2016, 05:41:05 PM
Quote from: FORMATE. on February 14, 2016, 05:30:02 PM
sssss

Boom' you named 7 artists ..... out of how many years the grams been going
:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:

I mean...the 7 named aren't just any 7. WTF y'all! :uhh:
Those seven are in  the Top 10-15 most awarded all time. These are artist that have help lay the foundation for not only their respective genres but music as a whole and the Grammy's have recognized them as such. Maybe it hasn't been in the categories we like but we make up a large part of the Grammy Awards' history.

And you kii'd @ Bey never winning AOTY. I don't wanna hear from u, Bent!  :dead: :kii:

Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: tigernathan on February 14, 2016, 05:44:56 PM
I'm GIGGLING!
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: death on February 14, 2016, 05:47:48 PM
Quote from: MelMel on February 14, 2016, 05:14:37 PM
yeah if Taylor wins tomorrow they are racist
hmph
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: death on February 14, 2016, 05:48:21 PM
Quote from: TheNextLew on February 14, 2016, 05:40:26 PM
Only whites slay in acting
Even the 2 facial expresion ones
And only whites can sing and make hit music

Get with it
katy is rlly amazin
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: KING BENTLEY. on February 14, 2016, 05:50:48 PM
Quote from: Boomer on February 14, 2016, 05:41:05 PM
Quote from: FORMATE. on February 14, 2016, 05:30:02 PM
sssss

Boom' you named 7 artists ..... out of how many years the grams been going
:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:

I mean...the 7 named aren't just any 7. WTF y'all! :uhh:
Those seven are in  the Top 10-15 most awarded all time. These are artist that have help lay the foundation for not only their respective genres but music as a whole and the Grammy's have recognized them as such. Maybe it hasn't been in the categories we like but we make up a large part of the Grammy Awards' history.

And you kii'd @ Bey never winning AOTY. I don't wanna hear from u, Bent!  :dead: :kii:
:dead: but those 7 winning doesn't disprove the lack of diversity tbh
what stRay brought up about the categories they won in does make sense

and boy you know .... Bey don't have one alberm that's worthy of a gotdamn AOTY boy
:lopsided:
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: tigernathan on February 14, 2016, 05:54:24 PM
I'm legit screaming rn
Title: Re: Now the Grammys are under fire for lack of diversity
Post by: Boomz on February 14, 2016, 06:03:12 PM
ssaaaaaaaaaaaa

'man, gor