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CONTACT YOUR COUSIN MATCHES.

I just got off the phone with my one of my maternal relatives that matched me thru DNA. He confirmed EVERYTHING that I guessed about my grandmother's heritage. Well, almost. She isn't of "Creole" ancestry, but of Melungeon ancestry, which is pretty much the same thing, a mix of French/Spanish, African and Native. But their roots are in North Carolina/VA, where most of my family is from, instead of Louisiana.

http://www.frenchcreoles.com/CreoleCulture/freepeopleofcolor/The%20Melungeons.html

I KNEW just by looking at my great great grandmother (in my sig), the fact that she appeared to be free and well off, and the significant levels of Spanish/Portuguese/Native ancestry (at 10%) in my own DNA , and my grandmother's DNA strain returning as "Dominican", that Creole or Melungeon was a strong possibility. HOWEVER, I honestly didn't find a lot of paper trail evidence to confirm that.

But I was looking at and researching the WRONG LINE of my family. I assumed that the heritage came from the "DeBerry" line of my family, but it actually comes from the "Lilly" line, who were related to the Dumas.

:receipts:

We matched relatives with one another, he confirmed the areas, the names, he also gave me names to check that were related to the Melungeon Dumas/Lilly family to see if there was a match in my DNA list. Every name he gave me popped up as a fucking match!!!!!!!!!!!

I finally got my fucking answers!!!! I was RIGHT. Well, almost. But I was definitely on the right track. I finally know who she was.  :loose2when:
And I finally really know who my grandmother is. And who her father was.  :loose2when:

I finally know her story!!!!!!
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Get your money's worth. Don't just look at the percentages. Contact your matches and dig in. They're just as excited as you are to mess a bit. Make every penny count!!!!

So yall just send your DNA to this place and they tell u your heritage?

What do with your DNA after that, they could be raising an army of evil clones

  :diddraispoot:

Let me log the fck in omfffff


And it's true I had cousins blowing me up and messaging me the second my results hit.
I was a bit overwhelmed sddddd

Quote from: Chokeme on April 10, 2016, 04:23:07 PM
So yall just send your DNA to this place and they tell u your heritage?

What do with your DNA after that, they could be raising an army of evil clones

  :diddraispoot:

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:butwait!:

Quote from: Chokeme on April 10, 2016, 04:23:07 PM
So yall just send your DNA to this place and they tell u your heritage?

What do with your DNA after that, they could be raising an army of evil clones

  :diddraispoot:

It gives you percentages that estimate what your heritage is.
It's pretty spot on.

The cousin matches are flawless.

But honestly contact the cousin matches, and gathering DOCUMENTATION, that paper trail is everything to me. I really feel like I got my money's worth now. Up until now I was trying to research my mom's side on my own. And making very educated guesses.

But there could be a cousin that has more experience and time invested than you do. That's who I spoke with today. And I finally got what the fuck I've been looking for.  :plzstop:

Still good to know that I tried on my own though. And that I was making good guesses. :justabit: I kinda slay

Quote from: Young on April 10, 2016, 04:24:10 PM
Let me log the fck in omfffff


And it's true I had cousins blowing me up and messaging me the second my results hit.
I was a bit overwhelmed sddddd

:justabit: :justabit:

Quote from: Chokeme on April 10, 2016, 04:23:07 PM
So yall just send your DNA to this place and they tell u your heritage?

What do with your DNA after that, they could be raising an army of evil clones

  :diddraispoot:

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Gorl they have everyone's DNA on file

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Believe that.

Atleast with this you know you're giving DNA and getting something out of it lol

What the... 🌚

Would that mean siblings get identical results?

Quote from: Rajesha on April 10, 2016, 05:26:04 PM
Would that mean siblings get identical results?

Yes, kinda.
But you have to be careful.

Originally looking at Ancestry DNA results
it was like a sprinkle of Iberian Peninsula here, a sprinkle of Ireland there, "West Europe" here....it just seemed like it was spread out everywhere with a whole bunch of random European ancestors or something.

I assumed it was some slavery rape mess and kept it moving. :plzstop: :plzstop:
I was never gun ho about DIVING into the European portion.

But once I got into GEDMatch, I saw how it clustered "Iberian" (Spain/Portugal) into 7%, then followed by MesoAmerican at 2%, North Africa at 3% .... I was Like wait, these are similar to results that Dominicans and Puerto Ricans get  when they take these tests (in larger amounts for them of course).

It wasn't until yesterday when Theo dived into GEDMatch and it PERFECTLY matched his grandparents heritage ( http://brandy.4fans.net/index.php?topic=14879.msg418808#msg418808 ) that I felt confident that there was something to the "Dominican" result i kept getting for one of my grandparents (which I knew was my grandmother for sure.)

That's what made me reach out to my cousin match (who was trying to get @ me for a minute but I kept ignoring them) to get things popping today. I think I overlooked it because I just didn't expect Hispanic heritage to be a significant part of my makeup. But it is :uhh:

My grandmother's father was of Melungeon descent.

Siblings will get SIMILAR results but they won't get exactly the same.
So just because one sibling gets 12% Irish 35% Nigerian , their full blooded sibling shouldn't expect to get it the same. The sibling may get 13% Scandinavian 32% GHana. But this is where research, common sense and documentation would need to combine to form a logical explanation.

Many areas overlap one another. People in the Iberian Peninsula often return Irish results, etc. KNowing history and geography is definitely an advantage.

It makes sense of so much.

I know my great grandfather was not "white", but on documents I found he's listed as a white man.
My grandmother said he was very fair skinned with curly hair.

A lot of Hispanics can easily slip under the radar and pass for white if they wanted to. He was passing.

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Quote from: Young on April 10, 2016, 05:23:06 PM

Quote from: Chokeme on April 10, 2016, 04:23:07 PM
So yall just send your DNA to this place and they tell u your heritage?

What do with your DNA after that, they could be raising an army of evil clones

  :diddraispoot:

v

Gorl they have everyone's DNA on file

N
Believe that.

Atleast with this you know you're giving DNA and getting something out of it lol

sdsd

The coolest thing about this is that I didn't even know who Melungeons were before I began this journey. I actually like that it's not something I never knew about, or a group of people I never heard about rather. It's not a race but simply a way for them to simplify their multicultural heritage. And every single line of it, African (duh), Spain, France and Native are perched in every DNA kit I have.

I finally cracked this shit. Like REALLY cracked it. :plzstop: I had my guesses, for the most part I had already figured it out. But documentation makes me comfortable really CLAIMING it.

I really have to thank Theo. Just seeing how accurate his GEDMatch mess was, it gave me hope that there was something more for me to explore. Or something to confirm. This is the beauty of it all....I help you guys, you help me.

Omfff I just need my results to hurry ahp and GET here.

:stressed:

I'm about to empty my coins into this history search. You're really selling this, are they paying you or something?
:everythingok:

Quote from: Glenda on April 10, 2016, 08:23:07 PM
Omfff I just need my results to hurry ahp and GET here.

:stressed:

I cannot tell you how good I fucking feel right now.

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and fucking PROUD

Quote from: Herbie on April 10, 2016, 08:39:19 PM
and fucking PROUD

FORMATION has a whole new meaning for u now.

:raycharles2urmess:

Quote from: BowDown on April 10, 2016, 08:36:10 PM
I'm about to empty my coins into this history search. You're really selling this, are they paying you or something?
:everythingok:

Honestly I never took interest in genealogy until I perched here in the SOuth for a while.

In NYC we could careless who's what, everyone's something.

But down here where it's more simple..more Black and White ... literally. If they see someone out of line with the "ordinary" they will single you out quick. And start asking questions  :uhh: "How do you get your hair like that? :uhh: "

My sister was puzzled as well as to why I suddenly got so interested in knowing my family history. But It's only so many times that you're questioned..... accused of perming your hair and mess that you begin to ask what's going on for yourself.

My grandmother never sat around and talked about her heritage. So this is why I was like  :uhh: :uhh: when people would ask if I was Haitian (two people on here asked me that), or say I looked Dominican, or whatever. But it all makes sense now.

The Dumas family has ancestral roots in Saint Dominigue, which is now Haiti/DR. I got my answers and I cannot tell you how good it feels to really know who I am. And who my grandmother is. :stressed:

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Quote from: Glenda on April 10, 2016, 08:43:20 PM

Quote from: Herbie on April 10, 2016, 08:39:19 PM
and fucking PROUD

FORMATION has a whole new meaning for u now.

:raycharles2urmess:

:stressed: :justabit: my fav song fucking ever.

Congratulations Afro, this is a wonderful breakthrough that most ppl wouldn't have found out.

Thankies!

Another member of my family who I found through DNA wrote an article on our heritage.

http://thethackerchronicles.blogspot.com/search?q=melungeon

This is her grandpa.
(http://bp2.blogger.com/_F9gnEomKs_U/SAOqoZqA1NI/AAAAAAAAAFc/J67YbPo_Xpw/S1600-R/My+Grandpa.JPG)

I've unlocked so much just by placing a damn phone call. :plzstop: :plzstop:

COUSIN MATCHES guys. I cannot stress this enough. They're your best friends!

Quote from: Herbie on April 10, 2016, 08:39:19 PM
and fucking PROUD

as you should be! I'm so excited for you!!!  :stressed:

I can't wait to finally get my results omff :gorlonfire: It should be anyday now

btw, have you found out anything about your dad's side? I never see you talk about him regarding the ancestry DNA.

The Thackers, the Gowns, Dumas, Lilly, every one of these fucking surnames that he provided to me...that he knew to be of Melungeon descent...I searched them in my cousin matches and they all pop up as matches..and all have hits of North Africa/Portugal/Iberian Peninsula, NA and France in their DNA results :plzstop: :plzstop:

I'm sorry I'm just fucking amazed right now. This is crazy!
My mother's family is a fucking melting pot :uhh:

Quote from: IMAAN on April 11, 2016, 12:26:32 AM

Quote from: Herbie on April 10, 2016, 08:39:19 PM
and fucking PROUD

as you should be! I'm so excited for you!!!  :stressed:

I can't wait to finally get my results omff :gorlonfire: It should be anyday now

btw, have you found out anything about your dad's side? I never see you talk about him regarding the ancestry DNA.

My dad's family pretty much knows where they're from. Proud descendants of slaves. I tried to see if there was any story there but when I went back a couple generations, it stopped. Which is to be expected of a strictly African American family. Once you hit 1860 or so the trail stops. Unless you wanna learn the history of their slave masters. And I'm good on that :udontlookok:

There's no romantic stories on his side. But I am damn proud of them.

I love bragging about my father's grandfather though. :plzstop: :justabit: Everytime I go down to dad I'm kissing the land my strong Black great grandfather worked for and owned. They may not have glitz and glam, and ooh's and ahh's when it comes to their genealogy. but I get my heart from my father's side without a doubt.

And I also think being raised by my mother's family naturally tilts me more toward learning who they are. I've just recently connected to my father's family within the past couple years.

I want to try this... How do I order a kit?

Quote from: Jay. on April 11, 2016, 01:15:41 AM
I want to try this... How do I order a kit?

http://dna.ancestry.com/

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Quote from: Herbie on April 11, 2016, 01:20:02 AM

Quote from: Jay. on April 11, 2016, 01:15:41 AM
I want to try this... How do I order a kit?

http://dna.ancestry.com/

I'm willing to pay $100 for this.

Quote from: Jay. on April 11, 2016, 01:27:36 AM

Quote from: Herbie on April 11, 2016, 01:20:02 AM

Quote from: Jay. on April 11, 2016, 01:15:41 AM
I want to try this... How do I order a kit?

http://dna.ancestry.com/

I'm willing to pay $100 for this.

It's worth every fucking penny.

Quote from: Jay. on April 11, 2016, 01:27:36 AM

Quote from: Herbie on April 11, 2016, 01:20:02 AM

Quote from: Jay. on April 11, 2016, 01:15:41 AM
I want to try this... How do I order a kit?

http://dna.ancestry.com/

I'm willing to pay $100 for this.

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Quote from: IMAAN on April 11, 2016, 01:41:47 AM

Quote from: Jay. on April 11, 2016, 01:27:36 AM

Quote from: Herbie on April 11, 2016, 01:20:02 AM

Quote from: Jay. on April 11, 2016, 01:15:41 AM
I want to try this... How do I order a kit?

http://dna.ancestry.com/

I'm willing to pay $100 for this.

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He might get disappointed

 :omgwatshappening: :omgwatshappening: :omgwatshappening:

Quote from: GOLD on April 11, 2016, 08:19:17 AM

Quote from: IMAAN on April 11, 2016, 01:41:47 AM

Quote from: Jay. on April 11, 2016, 01:27:36 AM

Quote from: Herbie on April 11, 2016, 01:20:02 AM

Quote from: Jay. on April 11, 2016, 01:15:41 AM
I want to try this... How do I order a kit?

http://dna.ancestry.com/

I'm willing to pay $100 for this.

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hhhhhh
He might get disappointed

:overit: :omgwatshappening: :omgwatshappening:

Jay deserves the right to know his ancestry, without being heckled, just like the rest of us.  :omgwatshappening:

Can't wait to see your results Jay.  :nogrammynoneck:

This is awesome Afro. When I do mine I might need your help researching, if you don't mind.

I've always been curious to try this, but you have definitely sold me on the idea.

U got it dude :wub: :justabit:

Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on April 11, 2016, 11:51:49 AM
This is awesome Afro. When I do mine I might need your help researching, if you don't mind.

I've always been curious to try this, but you have definitely sold me on the idea.

I can help you now. 100% nigger  :butwait!:

Quote from: Real on April 11, 2016, 02:19:11 PM

Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on April 11, 2016, 11:51:49 AM
This is awesome Afro. When I do mine I might need your help researching, if you don't mind.

I've always been curious to try this, but you have definitely sold me on the idea.

I can help you now. 100% nigger  :butwait!:

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I'm sick of you already :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:

Honestly, I was beginning to lose just a BIT of faith in the DNA tests.

But the more I read, the more I am amazed.
I am a descendant of the Dumas family, and when I searched the name I discovered many of them were directly from Saint Domingue (which is now the Dominican Republic.)

QuoteCommon names of Free People of Color:

Many came from St. Domingue in the West Indies:

Aleman, Allegre, Amothe/Lamothe, Bachemin, Bagneris, Baillie/Billie, Bajoliere, Baudin, Beaulieau, Beaumond(t), Beaureparie, Bedeau, Bellaire, Bellevue, Beltremieux, Benoit, Bernoudy, Berque, Bertonneau, Bic/Blique, Boise, Bon/Bonne, Bondaille, Boni, Bonseigneur, Boutine, Boutte, Boyer, Cabaret, Cambray, canelle, Caraby, Caresse, Cavalier, Cazenave, Chaigneau,

Chretien, Colvis/Clovis, Cornier, Courcelle, Cournand, Couvertier, Croque/Crocker, Cupidon, Dalcour, Dapremont, Daquin, Darcantel, Decourmant, Decuir, Dede/Dedaio, Dege, Dejan, Delatte, Delille, Deruisseau, Desdunes, Deslisle, Deslonde, Destrehan, Dreaux, Drouillard, Dubreauil, Dubuclet, Dumas[/b], Dumois, Duplanchier, Dupuy, Dusuau, Duval, Duvernay, Esteves, Faucheaux, Faure/Favre, Ferrand, Ferrer, Florian, Fondall

Source:
http://www.frenchcreoles.com/CreoleCulture/common%20names/commonnames.htm

These are the grandparent results I got from GEDMatch.
It guesses the roots of all 4 of your grandparents.

Quoteafrican-american + brong + dominican + fang

My grandmother's roots are basically in what is now the Dominican Republic.

However, Melungeons have their own identity in the states, and do not call themselves "Dominican" but their heritage is pretty much the same. That unique mix of ethnicities (African + Spanish/Portuguese + French + Native ) is what the test picked up and labeled it "Dominican".

I'm a firm believer and stan for DNA testing again.  :plzstop: :plzstop: :stressed: We are so LUCKY to have this stuff available.

I am just in shambles. The more I read and look at my results.....
I already knew the North Africa and Southern Europe resuts (Spain+Portugal) came from this heritage.

But there's even more of their beginnings HUNDREDS of years ago is still lurking around in my bloodstream!  :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:

QuoteThe Melungeons are a people of apparent Mediterranean descent who may have settled in the Appalachian wilderness as early or possibly earlier than 1567. The Mediterrean includes areas of North Africa, southern Europe and Central Asia.

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http://multiracial.com/site/index.php/2001/04/01/the-melungeons-who-are-they/

This is fucking crazy :uhh: I'm sorry but DNA is EVERYTHING.  :plzstop: :plzstop:

I have every piece of Melungeon identity inside of me :stressed: from North/West Africa, to Southern Europe, to American Indian, to Central Asia. My mother passed every bit of it on. :justabit:

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